GuardiaN: "Make more than CLG Red"

Our final and winners' interview from IEM San Jose features Na'Vi's Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács and touches on both the team's win and various other topics.

Na`Vi made short work of TSM in the grand final, which allowed the Eastern European team to return to its Cluj form following a disappointing run at CEVO Season 8.

HLTV.org spoke with Ladislav "⁠GuardiaN⁠" Kovács once again and covered topics ranging from the game to recent hot topics in the CS:GO scene.

You will be able to find our previous interviews from IEM San Jose as well as other clips on our Youtube channel here.

stich writes for HLTV.org and can be found on Twitter

Slovakia Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
1.18
Maps played:
657
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.62
#1
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Italy  SilveR.
Wat
2015-11-23 07:32
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13 replies
#28
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United States Rivitur
Bs! And congrats :o
2015-11-23 07:56
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3 replies
#124
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mika | 
Sweden tubewoody
Whats bs?
2015-11-23 18:02
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2 replies
#136
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United States Rivitur
Red > na'vi and silver for n1 :o
2015-11-23 20:15
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#147
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Brazil Witzex
He's a brazilian fake flagger... BS = Boa Sorte, = Good Luck
2015-11-23 22:05
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#41
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jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
I added subtitles for the first 1:30. Apologies yet again guys, something is quite wrong with our famous dildo mic so the camera started recording sound.
2015-11-23 08:39
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7 replies
#43
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Greenland 1stWorldBOY
we miss old famouse dildo mic!
2015-11-23 09:00
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#69
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Slovenia Asgarnian
ohh thanks man! :) I could not distinguish anything guardian said over that noise
2015-11-23 11:53
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#103
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Romania Darkness-
polando next time just pick a small, closed enviroment and with no people around x.x
2015-11-23 15:36
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#158
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Ukraine biglargebop
lol dildo mic
2015-11-25 01:34
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#159
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Ukraine biglargebop
youtube.com/watch?v=Sp5lpCvKZTs nice moves bro. no i am not stalking you
2015-11-25 01:42
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#161
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jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
:)
2015-11-25 02:16
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1 reply
#162
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Ukraine biglargebop
if i were a female, i would marry you. no homo
2015-11-25 02:23
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#56
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Australia KARMAAAYT
Probably makes more because of prize money...
2015-11-23 09:57
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kioShiMa | 
Australia PoissonRouge
Best quote NA
2015-11-23 07:33
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Sweden bustaN
first
2015-11-23 07:32
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1 reply
Maxlard @ #2 is laughing at you.
2015-11-23 07:46
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Lithuania guNTrack
n1
2015-11-23 07:32
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#6
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Macau BoxxyBabe
Clg red? What. Still happy for navi :)
2015-11-23 07:32
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2 replies
#72
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Finland lolfagit
Clg red = clg's femalebteam iirc
2015-11-23 12:09
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1 reply
#99
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United States imagineth
I understand that, but I didn't watch the video. What is he saying about CLG Red?
2015-11-23 14:36
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Brazil JonathanCSGO
what
2015-11-23 07:32
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#9
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Argentina jo1nou
isnt clg red hot chiks team?
2015-11-23 07:32
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3 replies
#122
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ARTeMis | 
Australia zebO
Missharvey and Cath make me melt.
2015-11-23 17:32
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1 reply
#152
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United States JTZZZZ
+1
2015-11-24 02:18
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#135
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Korea highlanderX
no
2015-11-23 19:24
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#10
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sh1ro | 
United States ewo
shazam lied!!!! but who really believed him rofl
2015-11-23 07:32
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#11
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Russia koarce
you guys gotta pick better "titles" for these interviews. seem to gossipy.
2015-11-23 07:32
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7 replies
#17
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United States SparksFX
That's today's journalism though. Make a sensational, eye-catching title. <3 stich though.
2015-11-23 07:36
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#35
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jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
<3
2015-11-23 08:22
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2 replies
#125
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United States DVNTY
<3
2015-11-23 18:10
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i agree with #11 here but the interview in itself is solid. good work stich :)
2015-11-24 00:58
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#131
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Russia koarce
agree stich is awesome, but work on better titles plox. NaVi just won IEM and the title of the interview is "Make more than CLG Red" ??? Really makes no sense.
2015-11-23 19:04
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Australia hazelberry
+1
2015-11-23 08:13
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#39
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donQ | 
Russia Kamunist
+1
2015-11-23 08:37
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#12
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Finland Sizz - <3 ex-LGB
the fuck is that title
2015-11-23 07:33
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#13
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roman | 
Palestine ndr[o]
whats up with the sound? why is it picking up all the background noise? edit- nvm, it was just the first 1-2 minutes.
2015-11-23 07:34
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#37
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jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
it was the camera mic, our mic cable is bugging out. luckily it won't be the case in the future
2015-11-23 08:23
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3 replies
#71
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Estonia 2026
Yeah... you ran into problems twice this event? God damn stich, fix ur shit mayne. :D
2015-11-23 11:58
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2 replies
#73
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World lol_n00bs
Yea :D:Dd h3h3. am.godumun salagi...
2015-11-23 12:09
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#117
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Hungary lobz-ilh
"fix ur shit mayne. :D" epic fail.. :D :D
2015-11-23 16:56
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Brazil RisenNTC
wtf is that noise, stfp people there's an interview going on
2015-11-23 07:34
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Denmark P0TAT0
Can barely hear anything
2015-11-23 07:34
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Netherlands JUNG13
Gz Navi
2015-11-23 07:35
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CLG red, best Cheerleaders in NA :>
2015-11-23 07:36
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#19
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Australia Mears97
Who said CLG red make more than Navi?
2015-11-23 07:36
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#22
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Canada adam_lookkkk2
shahzam
2015-11-23 07:44
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6 replies
#26
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Macau n9rrman
hahaha fucking shahzam
2015-11-23 07:54
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#77
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United States Slaazenger
Why he said that?
2015-11-23 12:49
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someone asked him on stream and he tried to act he knows everything and said CLG red get paid more than navi XDdd
2015-11-23 13:52
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#115
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United States Slaazenger
I mean, it doesnt even make sense... CLG Red is tier 8 if compared with male teams. Shahzam and his stupid comments strikes again...
2015-11-23 16:23
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#92
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Russia Denton2027
Shahzam mad cuz bad.LMAO
2015-11-23 13:42
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1 reply
#105
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Ukraine Marx Garition
cuz black #noracism
2015-11-23 15:39
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#78
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Russia DilDoFaggins
can anyone confirm that those bitches really are getting paid? up until now i was of the opinion that they dont get shit apart from travel expenses and gaming gear. what really do they do to justify giving them money..
2015-11-23 12:56
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#90
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dsn | 
Sweden triiton
Being girls I guess? Gender equality???? I dont know. What I do know tho is that they should not get paid for shit. Girls are extremely bad at every computer game. Like, the best female team would get 16-2 by a team like Vexed.. Jesus christ.
2015-11-23 13:33
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#91
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Russia DilDoFaggins
its fine if they get paid for the stuff they do for their organization. however, i doubt that what exposure they bring for sponsors and whatever else their job is, i doubt that comes even close to what navi do for their orga. whether u wanna delete all female leagues and such so a girl team like that hardly exists anymore, thats a different question and is not easy to answer. whatever, as long as what guardian said is true and the navi guys (and any other top cs pro) get paid well.
2015-11-23 13:37
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#142
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IceBerg | 
Nepal Elix123
They should som GN team YP
2015-11-23 20:57
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#168
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United States occam'srazor
I can't speak to what they get from their org but female tournament winnings are nothing to shake a stick at.
2015-11-26 00:48
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Estonia swag420weed
wtf?, why and who wants to ban smoke scripts? wtf? reterdos?
2015-11-23 07:56
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wtf?, why and who wants to ban aimhack wh bhop script? wtf? reterdos?
2015-11-23 13:31
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10 replies
#97
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dsn | 
Sweden triiton
reported
2015-11-23 13:56
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#102
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World Flamber
Yes because you can alias bind aimhacks, wh or a bhop script. Nice thinking there.
2015-11-23 15:14
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u r not can vacban4 jompskrip r u fk u?
2015-11-23 15:45
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Do you even know what a jump script is????
2015-11-23 15:37
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smoke script causes u to do something automatically instead of manually, same with the other things i mentioned (except wh u cant do that shit manually). u clearly didnt understand the point
2015-11-23 15:43
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Except you can literally type it from memory unlike say a bhop script or aimhack
2015-11-23 16:18
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thing is, youre still not doing it yourself
2015-11-23 20:36
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I also don't use buy binds doesn't mean they should be banned. Also ntWeeabooButEvilWeeabooIsBest
2015-11-23 20:38
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you still dont seem to understand the point im trying to make, lets just agree to disagree WeeabooWarrior>evilweeaboo<?>normal weeaboo
2015-11-23 21:45
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Ok btw Evil weeaboo is best weeaboo
2015-11-23 23:18
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i dont think the hand mic is on, this is camera mic hence all the background noise
2015-11-23 08:00
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3 replies
#40
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jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
yup, I added subtitles for that part now
2015-11-23 08:37
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2 replies
good guy stich
2015-11-23 09:21
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#62
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United Kingdom icestar
Would you consider adding a transcript of interviews? Would be good for people who don't want to waste mobile data along with other reasons
2015-11-23 10:50
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#30
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United States T_Maister
NA Salaries off the charts, yet all shit teams? Na'Vi lower salary, but more successful team? ????????????????????????????????????????????? I are think that (Edit: Realized that it's probably bullshit)
2015-11-23 08:04
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#98
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chrisJ | 
United Kingdom Harribo
It took you an hour to realise? :P
2015-11-23 14:02
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#31
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United States Rivitur
Who brought up scripts today?
2015-11-23 08:01
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4 replies
#32
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Palestine ndr[o]
2015-11-23 08:09
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#38
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India ccrrAcckK
what is smokescript?
2015-11-23 08:34
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2 replies
#42
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United Kingdom taimj
Probably jump throw
2015-11-23 08:47
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#58
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Poland DRUGI
jump + throw nade automatically
2015-11-23 10:01
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Perhaps the only time Zeus smiles is when he wins something.
2015-11-23 08:15
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#36
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World Blues Clues
so... shahzam is bullshit, hltv and navi confirm?
2015-11-23 08:23
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#44
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Bulgaria FuRyVIRTUOSO
stich best interviewer that background noise however was a bad mesh with GuardiaN's voice
2015-11-23 09:04
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#45
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Denmark hehenoob
Why do people actually believe shahzam or take this guys word as he was a reliable source for anything? he was the retarded guy that went on and claimed iBP threw the game then went on summits stream and heavily denied it lying to everyone's face. oh +he blocked me because i asked if its okay to make fun of pakistan after he made fun of another country
2015-11-23 09:04
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#47
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Slovakia Strenki
Terrible microphone, I can't hear anything because of the background noise
2015-11-23 09:14
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#48
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Austria db42
interesting opinion on jumpscripts. also stich is finally a guy who's actually able to interview people with interesting questions and not the "put us through the game" question you in every interview normally.
2015-11-23 09:19
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6 replies
#59
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Finland bliplbob
I think olofm is right: jumpscripts should be banned.
2015-11-23 10:18
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5 replies
#68
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Austria db42
because TSM seems to (ab)use them so heavily for smokes? I dont know. I never bothered learning them as they depend on so many things its not even funny, rather try a different approach. (ping, server lag, tickrate, fps, script nor working properly...)
2015-11-23 11:43
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#76
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Finland bliplbob
Not because of TSM, but for the idea of the game. The more skill you have, the better you are. Throwing a smoke from mirage a ramp to b shouldn't be A 100% sure thing. It's so insane. It should need perfect timing and angle.
2015-11-23 12:23
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#79
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Russia DilDoFaggins
i really dont care whether its a 100% thing or not to land a certain smoke. thats fine. i actually like it better than watching teams lose rounds bcs of missed smokes all the time. but if ur cheating to achieve that, its not at all worth it.
2015-11-23 12:59
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#93
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Germany MasterMindeR
totally agree.Anyone remebers Snax's smoke on nuke from t spawn to heaven while running?That was some next level shit,never saw someone doing something as hard as that ;).
2015-11-23 13:45
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#96
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CHRONOS | 
Finland ggCHRONOS
+1
2015-11-23 13:55
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#50
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Slovakia emerestiq
very proud to have from Slovakia best player in cs right now gg :)
2015-11-23 09:27
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#74
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EAZY | 
Czech Republic baylife
2015-11-23 12:18
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5 replies
#89
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Slovakia emerestiq
i dont care sry
2015-11-23 13:32
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#127
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Europe Nyfo
what? he said he was born as Hungarian, but he was born in Komarno , Slovak city , in Komarno a lot of ppl talk Hungarian thats why he didnt know slovak language untill age of 5 . --- nt czech (oskar > world) guy
2015-11-23 18:57
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#129
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EAZY | 
Czech Republic baylife
He was born in Hungary as well,im pretty sure he said it on stream
2015-11-23 19:00
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#130
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Europe Nyfo
He was born in Komarno-which is Slovak city he said it somewhere...
2015-11-23 19:02
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#132
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EAZY | 
Czech Republic baylife
source or didn't happen
2015-11-23 19:05
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#51
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Canada reizel
What the hell about CLG red? Someone please explain? I can't hear anything =/ PS: Stich please let me touch your manly breasts <3
2015-11-23 09:30
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#52
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Europe c3aseer
shahzam? said that clg red makes more money than NAVI.
2015-11-23 09:43
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1 reply
#61
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World tom0902000
pornstars do earn a lot
2015-11-23 10:44
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#55
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World really?
the quote in the title makes me lose respect for u...you think we actually care about who makes more between navi and clg red? Out of that entire iview u chose the least important thing to quote bc it would maybe cause drama and the kiddies would maybe be drawn to it. Please dont turn this site into the "Keeping up with the csgo Kardashians" show...
2015-11-23 09:56
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#82
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Russia DilDoFaggins
why dont we care whether navi makes more or less money than clg red? its definitely something to talk about. guardian is the best player in the world, plays for a top5 team in the world and in this plays a large part in filling up big arenas and drawing 100k+ people to twitch for every big lan. it would indeed be quite disgusting if he'd make less money than some girl team that would get shit on in the faceit master league, let alone pro league.
2015-11-23 13:05
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#57
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Poland dszta
CYKA BLYAT
2015-11-23 10:07
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1 reply
#81
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HenryG | 
Russia refrain
polska kurwa
2015-11-23 13:03
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#64
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Denmark partydodger
Dislike
2015-11-23 11:19
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#80
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HenryG | 
Russia refrain
get rekt danish
2015-11-23 13:03
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8 replies
#126
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Denmark partydodger
nahuj poshel degenerat ebanij
2015-11-23 18:49
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7 replies
#155
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Russia Denton2027
1 more fakeflagger scum
2015-11-24 17:24
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#156
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Denmark partydodger
Don't call me scum, you can call scum your mother, father, brother, sister and all of your friends. Firstly, I live in Denmark, secondly under the profile is Location not Nationality. To make sure that you got it - I live in Denmark. Scum.
2015-11-24 22:32
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#160
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Russia Denton2027
Living in fucking shittown somewhere in Denmark>talking about Scum.Get ebola retard :D
2015-11-25 02:09
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4 replies
#163
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Denmark partydodger
Dont wish me ya problems.
2015-11-25 09:15
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3 replies
#164
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Russia Denton2027
I have no problems,get rekt poor tard :>
2015-11-25 16:08
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2 replies
#165
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Denmark partydodger
You're just mad 'cause your mom has a bigger dick than you and try to shock me now, say something intelligent.
2015-11-25 16:13
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1 reply
#166
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Russia Denton2027
"You're just mad 'cause your mom has a bigger dick than you " >"say something intelligent."Lel,fucktard,u getting rekt second time in a row.
2015-11-25 20:05
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#65
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World chinijoz
n1 awp
2015-11-23 11:22
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#70
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United States The_Strang3r
CLG Red makes a lot of money from streaming and public appearances so I doubt NaVi makes as much as they do.
2015-11-23 11:54
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#75
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Europe c3aseer
But NaVi gets prize money, sticker money,clg red players doesnt earn that much from streaming so im pretty sure NaVi makes more but that doesn't really matter if CLG wants to waste their money on that girl team :D
2015-11-23 12:23
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#94
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Germany MasterMindeR
navi got like 1/2 or 1/3 million only from sticker money,so...
2015-11-23 13:46
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#116
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Xeno | 
Netherlands Xenoo
Nice bait.
2015-11-23 16:39
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#83
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Poland Ridleyy
CLG Red Femina team ?
2015-11-23 13:09
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#84
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Israel harelc0py
Click bait quote...
2015-11-23 13:20
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#100
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Finland Lammasrakastaja
i cant hear
2015-11-23 14:37
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They do get more than americans. They consistently earn prize money.
2015-11-23 14:37
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#106
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Korea yuh
What is this title, hltv on its best again LMAO
2015-11-23 15:42
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#111
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draken | 
Sweden ConnorCone
that was the WORST interview quality wise ever, so bad.. the only thing you hear is all the fucking backround chatter and mic is way too far away from the peaple actually speaking!!!! couldnt even watch this shit. the best idea ever lets stand in a chatter crownd and have an interview, yeahh.......
2015-11-23 16:09
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#112
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Germany mkai
yo stich you look big in this interview :D
2015-11-23 16:11
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#157
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
:D
2015-11-25 01:17
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#113
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Russia VRTY
what the fuck clg red means?!cant watch video,could some1 explainerino?
2015-11-23 16:12
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grill team under clg
2015-11-23 17:08
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#143
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
World Heeze
shahzam said that CLG.red (female team) makes more money than NaVi
2015-11-23 21:04
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#121
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Czech Republic byfo1991
Nice video you shared there. Can't understand shit.
2015-11-23 17:23
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#138
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Finland unef0is
Can someone tell me which language they talk in-game? If they does russian, how well GuardiaN knows it? How much it took to learn it? I'm pretty sure that he have told that in some interview and would be cool if someone could link that interview to me. cheers.
2015-11-23 20:17
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What the fuck does "Guardian: 'Make More Than CLG Red'" mean? How is that the headline for this article?
2015-11-23 20:46
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When and where did Shazham said that? Anyone got link?
2015-11-23 21:33
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#150
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North America oldshoe
who gives a shit if girls get paid too, all signed players should be salaried in 2015 in the current scene. there is more money than ever in CS, plenty to go around.
2015-11-24 00:55
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#153
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United States JTZZZZ
yep shouldnt get caught up in exactly what the numbers are as long as they are all paid enough to live
2015-11-24 02:20
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