ESL ban jumpthrow, tweak deathcam

ESL have changed a couple of important CS:GO rules in their ruleset that will affect all levels of gameplay across the company's platform of tournaments.

A new set of rule changes related to CS:GO were published by ESL today and they will come into effect for all ESL-related tournaments, from amateur online leagues such as Go4CS:GO or the ESL Open League to more prestigious tournaments such as the Intel Extreme Masters, ESL One events, and the ESL ESEA Pro League.

The German-based organisation arrived at a consensus to change these rules after apparent discussions with partners (which can be taken to include ESEA) as well as with an official players' union.


All ESL tournaments, big and small, will enforce the new rules 

In particular, four changes have been made:

  • Round and bomb timers have been set to 1:55 and 0:40 respectively, in accordance with Valve's changes to these times for the game developers' Major and Minor events.
  • The deathcam has been shortened to two seconds after internal discussions and discussions with players.
  • The end of round delay (after a new round starts once a round has finished) has been shortened to three seconds.
  • Jumpthrow scripts have been forbidden after a vote from players was in favour of banning.

In particular, the banning of jumpthrow scripts and shortening of the deathcam will have a large impact on competitive play as these two issues were quite hot button topics in the community in regards to their respective, perceived unfairness.

Jumpthrow scripts are alias-based commands that players can add to their configs in order to jump and throw grenades with exact precision, rather than manual timing which relies on near frame-perfect execution.

ESL have added that the new rules have already come into effect for the IEM Katowice qualifiers currently taking place on ESEA's client, and remaining tournaments will begin to enforce the rules starting Monday, January 18th on 11:00 .

stich writes for HLTV.org and can be found on Twitter

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#7
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Russia Reph
expected
2016-01-15 19:57
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#103
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Spain jorgeroe
nice
2016-01-15 20:21
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The end of round delay (after a new round starts once a round has finished) has been shortened to three seconds. what a fucking joke
2016-01-15 20:22
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16 replies
#123
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Europe Klobby
why is that a joke?
2016-01-15 20:33
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12 replies
#126
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Netherlands De-linquent
You can't pickup anything of importance after you've won the round. Winning on an ECO vs AWP's is nice, but if you can't get the AWP afterwards...
2016-01-15 20:35
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11 replies
#132
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United Kingdom Bluedewy
What if you win the round with the AWP in hand by killing all the enemies - but you die to the bomb because the timer is longer? Loss Loss situation really. Prefer the shorter timer!
2016-01-15 20:38
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3 replies
#139
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Netherlands De-linquent
The only scenario's in which this would happen was if the T side is defending the bomb for too long, not paying attention to the timer. A CT that dies due to bomb expl is just in the wrong place, because why are you close to the bomb if you can't defuse it?
2016-01-15 20:42
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1 reply
#142
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United Kingdom Bluedewy
It happens far too often, especially when players are on low HP and bomb radius' are weird. It wouldn't affect the CTs much - it would affect the Ts the most. I think it's a positive change.
2016-01-15 20:46
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#143
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United States thisscene
I'm really really struggling to imagine a scenario in which the longer bomb timer would kill you but the shorter bomb timer wouldn't.
2016-01-15 20:46
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#220
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Germany moni_69
u can still pickup the awp? are u fkn retarded?
2016-01-16 00:20
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6 replies
#232
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Netherlands De-linquent
No, but you obviously are. 3 seconds is not nearly enough to run from where you currently are, to where you've made the kill.
2016-01-16 02:55
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5 replies
#235
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Germany moni_69
ok you are fkn retarded. it obv depends on the distance. u can still pickup weapons...dumb kid
2016-01-16 03:39
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2 replies
#270
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Netherlands De-linquent
Goddamn retard.. So, Moni, you little fucking autistic german humpback, when your silver ass is playing Dust_2 (What else would you play) on short, holding the bomb you so professionally planted, and a CT pushes up short. You, with your instantly panic attack happen to tag a headshot. He dies. I'd like to see you run from A spot to short in under 3 seconds. Not every kill happens at a proximity of 1ft. fucking educate yourself.
2016-01-16 14:23
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#273
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Germany moni_69
ok i guess ur the silver player.
2016-01-16 15:36
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#266
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World lopedog
If I was 1 foot away from the awp, 3 seconds it certainly enough time.
2016-01-16 13:35
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1 reply
#271
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Netherlands De-linquent
If you were 2 foot away, 3 seconds would probably be enough time. If you were 3 foot away, 3 seconds might be enough time. If you were 4 foot away, 3 seconds just ain't gonna cut it.
2016-01-16 14:24
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#242
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Australia Rekindl3d
did you actually read what the update says? AFTER A NEW ROUND STARTS.... so that means when your standing at spawn buying guns, armour, nades, its 3 seconds... not 3 seconds when you kill the last person before the new round starts...
2016-01-16 05:59
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#272
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Netherlands De-linquent
The end of round delay (after a new round starts once a round has finished) The end of round delay. After a new round starts once a a round has finished. once a round has finished, there's a delay. This is called the 'End of round' delay, it's the delay at the end of the round. After this delay, the new round starts. It has been shortened to 3 seconds. The buytime is already 10 seconds, it'd be useless to add 3 seconds to that.
2016-01-16 14:26
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lol you retard have to be silver 2 to not understand what that change means hahahahahahhahahahaha
2016-01-16 16:24
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#144
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Portugal SlashOP
GUYS PLEASE answer me :) the bind jumpthrow is banned yeah? but if u do jumpthrow manually without any bind/script you can. im right?
2016-01-15 20:46
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6 replies
#148
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India ScRyPt123
yes you can!! only the scripts are banned cuz to jumpthrow manually is a skill :)
2016-01-15 20:51
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#221
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Germany moni_69
yeah but most of the common nades are WAY to unreliable without the skript
2016-01-16 00:21
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4 replies
If they are unreliable, they shouldn't be common.
2016-01-16 12:03
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3 replies
#260
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World lakie92
They are common now because people use the script...
2016-01-16 12:08
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2 replies
at least they won't be used anymore in ESL. I hope ESEA, Faceit and CEVO will do the same.
2016-01-16 12:10
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1 reply
#279
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World lakie92
Yeah for sure, good move for the game.
2016-01-16 20:13
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#198
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sjokz | 
Poland pentagramstaszy
#7 first, GJ admins
2016-01-15 22:30
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1 reply
#245
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Russia Reph
why not?
2016-01-16 08:20
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#8
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Germany Hampel
nice
2016-01-15 19:57
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#9
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African Union Im_Adopted
Who uses scripts for jumpthrow? Aylmao, jumpthrow is too easy.
2016-01-15 19:58
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16 replies
Doesn't EnVy?
2016-01-15 19:59
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#29
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kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR
There is a certain kind of jump that isnt too high nor too low. You can only do this "half jump" with jumpthrow script.
2016-01-15 20:00
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#51
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France deathly claw
If you want jumpthrow to be consistent, you use script, it's not your gold nova 3 level to fail 2/3 of your smokes
2016-01-15 20:03
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1 reply
#174
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United States 2d666c79
+
2016-01-15 21:24
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#60
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Ex6TenZ | 
Finland eebro
Some jumpthrows require frame perfect execution.
2016-01-15 20:06
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1 reply
#97
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United States imagineth
agreed well said
2016-01-15 20:17
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#90
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Finland iNFERNOh
hello gold nova boi
2016-01-15 20:16
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mousesports niko in his cfg alias "+jumpthrow" "+jump;-attack" alias "-jumpthrow" "-jump" bind "h" "+jumpthrow"
2016-01-15 20:23
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#138
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Hungary Shaperz
silver spotted
2016-01-15 20:42
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#146
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Xyp9x | 
Georgia Fatal Fighter
okii
2016-01-15 20:50
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#157
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Finland ZoqFotPik
who even uses nades?? i just headshot everyone
2016-01-15 21:07
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1 reply
#219
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Russia Baldman
+1
2016-01-16 00:07
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#222
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Germany moni_69
silver? i have obv no clue what a jumpthrow skript actually does...fkn low
2016-01-16 00:23
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#229
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ketchup | 
Belgium fRe2k
top quality bait, look at all the fish
2016-01-16 02:04
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1 reply
#261
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FalleN | 
World Vechnyp
what if it wasnt a bait
2016-01-16 12:10
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#234
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Canada Go4TLouD
Pretty much every pro. Because it was legal, everybody was using it to not be at disadvantage even tough they think it's cheap. It's gonna remove an important strategic aspect and for example mirage mid is gonna be harder to take as Terrorist. If you think jumpthrow is easy you obviously don't know smokes that need frame perfect throw.
2016-01-16 03:16
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#11
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Germany ayyy
cool
2016-01-15 19:58
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#14
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Latvia tenke
noooice no more perfect smokes fags
2016-01-15 19:58
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#15
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France PropaNN
good addition
2016-01-15 19:59
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#16
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United States dreisch92
wow
2016-01-15 19:59
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#17
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Poland vaph
gud
2016-01-15 19:59
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#19
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Denmark meeetoW
nicenice
2016-01-15 19:59
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#20
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Spain Alser
2016-01-15 20:02
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11 replies
#131
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Norway Wes J
They apparently didn't like jumpthrow and for good reason. They don't mention deathcam and timings since everyone will have to get used to it, but it's definitely for the better. I wonder if any top teams are really going to be affected by this negatively.
2016-01-15 20:37
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3 replies
#133
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Spain Alser
Karrigan was a fan of jumpthrow scripts, not sure how much it will affect him
2016-01-15 20:38
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2 replies
#149
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India RoTPoT
also niko and some more players
2016-01-15 20:52
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#164
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Europe mactep
Karrigan just stays up to date with the meta. he'll adapt to this change insta.
2016-01-15 21:13
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#136
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Japan tenshi
You can't really take friberg seriously, he welcomes literally any change, no matter how retarded.
2016-01-15 20:40
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2 replies
#145
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United States Hgfgjff
*adds revolvo* Friberg:wohoooo
2016-01-15 20:50
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1 reply
#201
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Japan tenshi
He said nothing about R8, but he said that the spray nerf was a good thing. So there's that.
2016-01-15 22:33
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#207
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United States sishbabe
Thats a fake Flusha, Friberg and allu are butt buddies with Valve, and NBK's team doesn't use complex smokes like other teams. Only surprise on that list was Spunj, as I know for a fact he uses jumpthrow scripts.
2016-01-15 22:54
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2 replies
#210
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Spain Alser
It's not a fake Flusha, pal. 76.9K followers
2016-01-15 23:06
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#239
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nitr0 | 
Canada [z]
the one who replies is the fake one, same image and almost same name but with a "not" in the end.
2016-01-16 04:49
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#286
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shaGuar | 
United States brieN
meanwhile they all used it....
2016-01-19 04:13
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#21
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roman | 
Palestine ndr[o]
n1, good decision for once.
2016-01-15 19:59
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#23
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Switzerland wdf am u want
-1 Let's add more random to the game
2016-01-15 19:59
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1 reply
#214
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Germany P3tR
Jumpthrows are skillbased not luckbased mate
2016-01-15 23:37
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#24
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Denmark Cred1ble
Really good idea to ask the pro's, nice choice by ESL, perfect thing to do!
2016-01-15 19:59
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSS VALVE LISTEN TO PRO ?? WOOOOOHOO
2016-01-15 19:59
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5 replies
#33
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Brazil autismo
not valve, esl
2016-01-15 20:01
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2 replies
fuck my life, my bad
2016-01-15 20:03
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1 reply
#179
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United Kingdom GothGoli123
Fuck it hard
2016-01-15 21:29
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#77
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United States ev0lv ("__")
Obviously valve = esl right? Valve would obviously ban client-side use of the developer console, right???!?!?!111
2016-01-15 20:11
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#223
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Other hardquake
Fuck your life, your bad.
2016-01-16 00:32
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are they banned both manual way and script or?
2016-01-15 20:00
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1 reply
#43
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rain | 
Norway LakSeey
manual way doesn't really work
2016-01-15 20:02
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#28
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Panama kunft
gay
2016-01-15 20:00
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#30
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Finland Emvi
YESSSS finally, fuck the jumpscripts
2016-01-15 20:01
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#31
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f0rest | 
Turkey skuggii
nic3
2016-01-15 20:01
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#32
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Hungary LuckY97
Is this because we are from BULGARIA ?????
2016-01-15 20:01
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4 replies
#50
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Bulgaria Pikasso
wtf are you talking about!
2016-01-15 20:03
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2 replies
#55
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Panama kunft
hottest new meme on hltv
2016-01-15 20:04
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#156
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Sweden mickeeyo
new meme. chill
2016-01-15 21:04
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#196
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gabs | 
Europe GandalfThePimp
wrong
2016-01-15 22:25
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1:55 round 40 bomb LOL
2016-01-15 20:01
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4 replies
#61
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World jayyyy00
What is so funny? Ofcourse they're gonna switch since all majors will have these timers as well
2016-01-15 20:06
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3 replies
who cares doesnt mean its a good ruleset they said they changed it because of smokes being too effective/thick/lasting too long well why dont they just fucking balance smokes better
2016-01-15 20:07
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2 replies
#73
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World jayyyy00
That has to do with valve being retarded. ESL is just following their ruleset since they probably wanna still host majors in the future
2016-01-15 20:09
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#150
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India RoTPoT
What's easier to do?
2016-01-15 20:54
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#37
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rain | 
Norway LakSeey
SICK
2016-01-15 20:02
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#40
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Australia TotalEclipse
Rip my smokes...
2016-01-15 20:02
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3 replies
#44
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Finland Emvi
is that you spunj? :>
2016-01-15 20:03
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#48
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Finland kappaboi
you play in esl?
2016-01-15 20:03
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1 reply
#93
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Australia TotalEclipse
No, won't affect me now but I imagine all other tournaments will follow suit and eventually CyberGamer (Australian league) will also implement these changes.
2016-01-15 20:17
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#41
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Bosnia and Herzegovina anteS
ok
2016-01-15 20:02
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expected
2016-01-15 20:02
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jumpscripts irrelevant, who cares 1.55 round and 40 bomb toppest kek cs is dead
2016-01-15 20:03
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2 replies
#67
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s1mple | 
United Kingdom Glevin96
"jumpscripts irrelevant" wtf are you taking about?
2016-01-15 20:08
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1 reply
#114
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Australia TotalEclipse
Probably sticks to matchmaking.
2016-01-15 20:26
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#46
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Turkey therealyaban
w0w
2016-01-15 20:03
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n1
2016-01-15 20:03
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#49
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Yugoslavia bleaq
bout time
2016-01-15 20:03
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Nice changes!
2016-01-15 20:04
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#63
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New Zealand jdnz
I can understand the deathcam thing but jump throw scripts? Just dumb
2016-01-15 20:07
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5 replies
how long i had to scroll down to find somebody that mentions the most faking important and best change by far. death cam so annoying dude... they shoulda fucked it completely though. 'peeking u right! no wait, now left! NOT ON IT NOT ON IT DONT PEEK!!!!' fak u shouldnt this be a skill game? not that skillfull if somebody basically wallhacks for u for an inconsistent amount of time but up to like 6 seconds...
2016-01-15 20:21
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4 replies
#115
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Sweden Kasidro
Yeah should go to an alive player or fade to black straight away
2016-01-15 20:27
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3 replies
#264
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World drev1
Rather go to a live player imo, then one could use that everywhere(mm++), would be boring af fading to black :P just my op.
2016-01-16 13:23
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2 replies
#265
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Sweden Kasidro
yeah I agree that fade to black would be boring so straight to an alive player would be the best. To be able to see after death is dumb though.
2016-01-16 13:25
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1 reply
#267
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World drev1
+1
2016-01-16 13:36
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#65
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Lithuania AvaIon
n1
2016-01-15 20:07
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Awesome. Title little misleading doe :'3
2016-01-15 20:08
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2 replies
#74
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jOELZ | 
Poland stich - HLTV.org
how pray tell sirrah?
2016-01-15 20:09
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1 reply
ESL ban jumpthrow scripts :D
2016-01-15 22:11
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#69
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Russia Darthblyat
who is jumpthrow? another tier 2 german player?
2016-01-15 20:08
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1 reply
thought it was steels brother actually?
2016-01-15 20:26
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#70
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Finland KuiQula
Why change the round time ffs?
2016-01-15 20:09
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1 reply
Consistency. Valve sponsored majors will have to use the new timers, so all pro-level tournaments will fall in line eventually.
2016-01-16 04:38
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#71
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gob b | 
Russia froelz1337
inb4 macro
2016-01-15 20:09
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#72
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Germany KaRappa
rip esl, rip esea
2016-01-15 20:09
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#76
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World nitroom
gj esl
2016-01-15 20:10
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#78
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Philippines yolo swaggin$
YEEEEPA esl back to the business with the best rules fck valve
2016-01-15 20:11
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#79
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Brazil lokodecrack
i though they banned players lol
2016-01-15 20:11
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#80
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Canada theRage
Rip team liquid
2016-01-15 20:11
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#82
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Other Frizaa
why the fuck ?
2016-01-15 20:12
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#83
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Albania WarGandhi
These are all good changes. Gj ESL, i hope other tournaments follow the same example.
2016-01-15 20:12
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#84
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Netherlands p2dr
What is the punishment if u you use it? Will it be considered equal to cheating?
2016-01-15 20:13
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3 replies
#118
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Brazil mth^
do u mean jumpthrow?
2016-01-15 20:29
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2 replies
#182
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Netherlands p2dr
yes
2016-01-15 21:33
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1 reply
#184
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Brazil mth^
hm I think it wont be like cheating... maybe it will not be possible, idk how but something like this... it's like scroll duck in 1.6
2016-01-15 21:35
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#86
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BnTeT | 
Korea PLANETSHAPER
Nice to see, it'll cause people to be more careful and skillful during both smoke throws and clutches. Good on you, ESL.
2016-01-15 20:16
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#87
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Finland RaptoRStillAlive
wow nice
2016-01-15 20:16
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#89
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United States Fleshleaves
Cool. I always felt jump-scripts were in a gray area of cheating that someone would come out and at some point bad. In a way, sort of like map exploits in its "grayness". I think shortening the shortening to between rounds to 3 seconds will actually hurt many teams, especially when they have to play a much stronger team. Perhaps this was the point: to help betting? Not sure the rationale behind this except to make it harder for lesser teams to compete.
2016-01-15 20:16
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How in the flying FUCK is it cheating if anyone and their mother could fucking take 2 seconds to set one up? What the FUCK! Fuck you.
2016-01-15 20:21
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#127
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United States Fleshleaves
Okay, ranter. That's why I said it was in a gray area, or did you not understand what I wrote? When people are given an advantage over others, on some level that's a cheat. Why not just build it into the game by default? Here it's being taken out and outlawed. You're on the wrong side of this argument. Completely. All you're saying is "I think it should be in and they should not have removed it". Disagree with them if you like. I agree with them. And, on some level they consider it a cheat too or they wouldn't have even brought it up to discuss, much less make a decision to outlaw it.
2016-01-15 20:35
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8 replies
No I'm saying it shouldn't be in a fucking gray area if it's literally accessible to ANYONE. Fuck you if you think I'm reading all that shit.
2016-01-15 20:38
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7 replies
#161
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United States Fleshleaves
Anything that gives an advantage to some and is not already a default in the game is a cheat, on some level. ESL and ESEA and pros agree, and I agree... so you are wrong. Sorry, dude. And fuck you too.
2016-01-15 21:10
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6 replies
Buuut that's the thing, it's in the game. You press "`", that's like people complaining about turning down grass settings in DayZ.
2016-01-15 21:11
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4 replies
#180
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United States Fleshleaves
If you'd read what I wrote above("Fuck you if you think I'm reading all that"), you'd know I think there shouldn't be any 'inside info' that people have to learn about it and type esoteric commands in or go to a wiki and figure out how to get a config file going... I played CS for years. I know how to do that. But, I looked it up. It should be there by default, without any special knowledge. ESL and ESEA and the pros agree.
2016-01-15 21:30
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3 replies
Well it's obviously not a fucking secret if they want to ban it. Holy shit, get a better argument.
2016-01-16 01:00
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2 replies
#269
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World lopedog
Kek. The only person who needs to get a better argument is you. Flesh explained his opinion in detail, you just swore like an angry teen xd
2016-01-16 13:46
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#280
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United States Fleshleaves
+1. Exactly.
2016-01-16 21:08
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Which is why nearly every pro has buy binds to buy full sets for certain execution strats, not to mention bhop scrollwheel, etc, etc. All cheating. /s
2016-01-16 01:30
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#268
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World lopedog
Someone forgot to attend anger management this week :(
2016-01-16 13:44
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3 replies
No you fucking faggot, it's flaming because dipshits will defend anything.
2016-01-17 02:41
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2 replies
#284
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World lopedog
Eat some valium my man. You might be less of a nonce if you do :)
2016-01-18 21:47
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1 reply
I'm not angry, it's my goto personality here. Gets the comment chains going..
2016-01-23 22:20
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#100
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Vietnam stzzi
nice!!!!
2016-01-15 20:20
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#107
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Poland micronn
Good move with jumpthrows and deathcam.
2016-01-15 20:24
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#109
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United States Max JihadPride
Round and bomb timers have been set to 1:55 and 0:40 respectively, in accordance with Valve's changes to these times for the game developers' Major and Minor events. I liked the other rules, but this one is a fucking joke.
2016-01-15 20:25
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#121
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Twistzz | 
Netherlands  DIVERSE
+1 really hate to see tournaments implement this.
2016-01-15 20:32
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No teams want to go into Majors and suddenly have to adjust to different round and bomb timers. Valve is going to force 1:55 and :40 on Majors, so the only logical thing to do for now is to make these rules consistent across all tournaments.
2016-01-16 04:42
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#110
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United Kingdom FullSpe3d
revert the fucking bomb timers
2016-01-15 20:25
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Rip saving an awp
2016-01-15 20:26
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great job esl
2016-01-15 20:26
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#116
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Reunion assa123
Why they dont remove deathcamera completely? You die=go to your teammate cam
2016-01-15 20:29
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1 reply
+1 that's exactly what I was thinking
2016-01-15 21:02
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#117
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Russia AKIMOV
Thanks <3
2016-01-15 20:29
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#119
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Finland fr0zeNid
GOOD THAT THEY BANNED THE JUMP SCRIPT, NOOBS CANT THROW WITHOUT IT
2016-01-15 20:31
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#120
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Romania razbatten
lmao keep making this game more random
2016-01-15 20:35
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#122
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Norway Wes J
Great changes!
2016-01-15 20:32
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#124
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World TheTourist
thought it'd be about the bans regarding players who threw (ibuypower)
2016-01-15 20:33
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#128
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Belarus Starvoid
YAY
2016-01-15 20:35
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#129
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United Kingdom NipXe
What's the definition of a script? Isn't it just a jump bind?
2016-01-15 20:35
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#130
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Sweden Åbro
tHAT'S GOOD
2016-01-15 20:37
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is it really that good?? rip creativity
2016-01-15 20:38
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2 replies
#167
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Germany ZWEITASTENy0
RIP creativity? hahahaha. You get more creativity with inconsistent than with perfect smokes.I dont get your logic. If you dont place a smoke where you wanted it to be, you might reconsider your call / strat or even change it-> More flexibility required.
2016-01-15 21:14
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1 reply
Inconsistent = bad for esport. When did everyone start liking rng wtf?
2016-01-16 01:31
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#137
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China  Tiger
can someone explain or show an example of jumpthrow?
2016-01-15 20:42
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1 reply
#240
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Poland ejmilc
with a jumpthrow script u csn consistently throw jump smokes eg window smoke on mirage.
2016-01-16 04:55
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Lol, I never knew there was something like a jumpthrow :'D
2016-01-15 20:43
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#141
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gob b | 
Iceland shine4t
bind space "+jump" bind v "-attack" press both at the same time as you prime your nade, same effect - not a script.
2016-01-15 20:43
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#153
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ZywOo | 
France jeffk
no because you have to throw at the top og the jump.
2016-01-15 21:02
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#181
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gob b | 
Iceland shine4t
nope, it´s literally the same thing. Try it out, just did it and tried all my smokes - worked 100% I even bound v to "-attack; -attack2" and it worked for underhands, full throw and mid throw.
2016-01-15 21:32
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#147
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Germany DerMitDemBlunt
jump throws arent banned only using a script to execute it perfectly every time are.
2016-01-15 20:51
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#151
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Poland sajlent
the only jumpthrow smoke I use is for ct mirage slope so who cares still allowed in faceit or mm
2016-01-15 20:55
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3 replies
#165
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Denmark menix
CT mirage slope? you can just stand on a corner & throw it without jumping or anything.
2016-01-15 21:13
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1 reply
#177
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Poland sajlent
but I am using a different smoke which is perfect
2016-01-15 21:28
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#188
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United States itzgin
For now it's allowed, they (every league) can easily change it today even.
2016-01-15 21:41
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#152
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Canada gstar
I use scroll wheel for movement and spacebar for throwing smokes. gg
2016-01-15 21:01
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#158
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Andorra quietly
jump throw bind RIP. I think it was nice to have but at the same time. ahhh fuck. The death cam change is nice, I think 2 seconds is a lot better than 1032481 seconds the round timer is stupid, fuck Volvo and forcing this change bunch of idiets
2016-01-15 21:07
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#159
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Sweden agzbagz
good
2016-01-15 21:07
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#160
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Europe t.o.p
gg
2016-01-15 21:09
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#163
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Sweden thof
n1
2016-01-15 21:12
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#166
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Brazil tixiQo78
well done nice changes all of them...
2016-01-15 21:14
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#168
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Israel swagboiswag
Could anyone explain me what that means?
2016-01-15 21:15
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1 reply
#170
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SpawN | 
Netherlands militanthumanist
2016-01-15 21:20
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Nice!
2016-01-15 21:15
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#171
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United States itzgin
RIP Liquid, adreN said most (if not all) of their smokes are done via jump script.
2016-01-15 21:21
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#172
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Other Bane101
you need to start learning how to throw shit on your own! it's too easy these days
2016-01-15 21:21
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#173
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World C4jk
Nice, Valve should follow. At least deathcam, default time is beyond dumb.
2016-01-15 21:23
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#183
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Greenland ALBiNh0
that's good
2016-01-15 21:34
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#187
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Vietnam DopeDrop
Is this happens because we are from BULGARIA ?????
2016-01-15 21:41
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#189
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Portugal MajesticSnK
so bind "mwheeldown" "+jump" is banned ? or not?
2016-01-15 21:43
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1 reply
Lol of course not, if that wasn't allowed no one could jump anymore.
2016-01-15 21:48
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#192
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Other plath - <3 wayLander
i seen many jump throws at sltv already. i doubt people will actually enforce rules against such binds.
2016-01-15 21:58
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#200
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Austria NihadBOSna
and remaining tournaments will begin to enforce the rules starting Monday, January 18th on 11:00.
2016-01-15 22:33
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#247
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Other plath - <3 wayLander
it was banned before by the written rules for ESL ONE, but the admins allowed it last time. piter and renegades used it. that's why i doubt it. anyway i hope they're stricter this time.
2016-01-16 09:51
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#199
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Brazil c7z5atuo
I never used it anyway... You can do still do anything without it.
2016-01-15 22:32
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#205
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Other plath - <3 wayLander
if you could reliably jumpsmoke window mirage or train connector from t spawn then they wouldnt bother using binds.
2016-01-15 22:45
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#202
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United States gotrice541
why 1:55 and 40 second bomb timer? Sure the extra 10 second could mean somethiung for the T's but the extra 5 seconds for the bomb could mean something for the CTs as well.
2016-01-15 22:34
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#203
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Spain arxavin
how they agree on the new timers are players dumb? who the f leads the players union?
2016-01-15 22:35
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#204
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RpK | 
Germany lloyd6077
U can still make your config.cfg writeprotected and enter the jumpthrow via console. Wont be saved in your .cfg so theres no proof for that. Just reenter it everytime u launch the game. German engineering
2016-01-15 22:41
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#206
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World jonr8
n1 mercedes
2016-01-15 22:54
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#208
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United States sishbabe
I love the death cam change, but the other two seem kinda dumb. The fact of the matter is most pro teams don't rely on complex smoke strats and therefor don't need jump throw binds - of course they will vote to remove them to fuck over slower teams like Na'Vi. Theres going to be a lot less innovative CS play and a lot more raw aim coming out of these matches now. Don't think I like that. And I really hate them using Valve's new timer shit. Pro players shouldn't have to adjust their style for people who aren't as good as they are. Valve is moronic forcing this on teams and on leagues.
2016-01-15 22:57
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#209
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World QTA
nice xD
2016-01-15 23:02
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#212
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Slovenia Badm0n
Lmao jumpthrow scripts shouldn't even exist it should be perfect everytime.
2016-01-15 23:26
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Agree with the jumpthrow ban. Add some element of skill for the smokes
2016-01-15 23:41
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#217
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United States ToastytheBaker
timing is hardly skill though but i like that they took vote from players so if it's out it's out
2016-01-15 23:51
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#216
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Brazil pedro1
what was the original deathcam time?
2016-01-15 23:51
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#230
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Europe DrexxEnt
Love the deathcam change, but I'm not convinced on the jumpscript.
2016-01-16 02:10
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#231
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United States zayshi
longer bomb timers make the game more CT-sided
2016-01-16 02:46
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#233
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United States Terab
why do they have a deathcam at all?
2016-01-16 03:02
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1 reply
Good question. CPL just went black after death.
2016-01-16 10:03
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#243
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Czech Republic stxCZE
I know it seems natural to extend timers with addition of molotovs to the game but I also think that this change benefits teams that are ahead because of their cost. You nerf M4A1S to the ground not to get game so much CT sided and than make changes more comfortable to them because of possibility of T to throw after plant molotov on bomb... You also force players to take duels much more because of timers - to make them buy more time to complete rounds. On the other hand CTs are less likely to win raw aim duels because worse primary gun. Are we shifting to AUG meta again to get CTs more confident on mid-round duels?
2016-01-16 07:24
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they should ban flusha
2016-01-16 07:54
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#246
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Australia SiL3NCE
Did they ban jump-throw BINDS as well as scripts? or just scripts?
2016-01-16 09:34
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#250
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World emythrel
it's the same thing. you can't bind jump throw to one key without using a script.
2016-01-16 09:59
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2 replies
#255
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Australia SiL3NCE
yea you can, I have it.
2016-01-16 10:21
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1 reply
#277
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shaGuar | 
United States brieN
that bind is considered a script, its a coding term...
2016-01-16 19:19
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#249
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World emythrel
So a skype group is now an official players union? Interesting.
2016-01-16 09:58
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#256
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GuardiaN | 
Serbia NESi [w]
esl full of crap
2016-01-16 10:29
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#262
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Israel harelc0py
who is jumpthrow ? NoKappa
2016-01-16 12:10
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#274
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Denmark kaspeRztw
So now instead of using alias to bind it to one key You can instead just bind x "+jump" and bind c "-attack" hit both and nearly the same?
2016-01-16 16:01
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#276
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Halton | 
Spain akproxx
expected
2016-01-16 18:34
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#278
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shaGuar | 
United States brieN
jumpthrow? really just makes smokes consistent, really just makes players going to have to learn different angles for smokes, dumb rule
2016-01-16 19:20
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I agree with all the changes. I don't think that he jump throw thing was entirely necessary but I like it; adds another aspect that can be skill based.
2016-01-18 07:10
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#283
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Estonia ATSO
out of 20 smokes i know now like 5 :D:D:D
2016-01-18 18:06
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#285
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Denmark nisse05
r.i.p jorgeroe . just tryed to be nice guy now he is dead in syria
2016-01-18 23:17
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#289
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Sweden eurekaa
I like all of the changes except the increased round time, but I guess valve is to blame for that.
2016-01-23 17:45
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#292
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Finland fr0zeNid
taz still using
2016-01-23 22:21
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