dsn joins B.O.O.T. as coach

30-9-2016 11:00

Former fnatic member Harley "dsn" Örwall has been installed as coach of B.O.O.T., the Chinese team have announced.

The 30-year-old hung up his mouse and keyboard in 2011 after playing at the highest level for over a decade, during which he plied his trade for teams like xPerience.se, Begrip Gaming, EYEBallers and more notably fnatic.

It was on fnatic that Harley "⁠dsn⁠" Örwall cemented his credentials as one of the game's finest AWPers, and he played an important part in the team's hegemony in the 1.6 scene in 2007 and 2009.

dsn will move to Shanghai to coach the team full-time

After a five-year absence, the Swede is ready to embrace a new challenge in esports as he will be moving to Shanghai to coach B.O.O.T., who recently finished in fourth place at the CS:GO Super League 2016 finals.

"I feel really happy to come back to Counter-Strike, this time as a coach for the Chinese team B.O.O.T," Örwall said in a statement.

"A while back I was approached by a friend who I got to know during my time in Fnatic, and he asked me if I would be interested in coaching the team he worked for.

"After a lot of thinking, as well as visiting the team’s training house in Shanghai, I came to the conclusion that this would be a fun challenge for me.

"We have a clear vision of what we want to achieve and we hope that an improved training regime, coupled with hard work, can speed up our improvement process moving forward.

"I think to be a part of Chinese e-sports at this point in time is very exciting, and moving to Shanghai will also be beneficial for one of my personal goals, to speak fluent Chinese, a project I set out on nine months ago."

B.O.O.T.'s team consist of:

JiaMing "⁠DeStRoYeR⁠" Gu
ZhongHao "⁠Sa7⁠" Yan
MingHeng "⁠Mh⁠" Song
Bochuan "⁠SOLA⁠" Lv
ZhiHai "⁠QKA⁠" Fu

Harley "⁠dsn⁠" Örwall (coach)

wow

2016-09-30 11:03

6 replies

expected, ruuit to coach VG.potential next month

2016-09-30 12:27

We will work to give them a new e-education so-so sucks do known Evan to go to blu-ray hahaha borrow blues

2016-09-30 12:43

4 replies

wat???????

2016-09-30 13:50

2 replies

Legends are comming back

2016-09-30 14:04

1 reply

and why exactly are you replying to my post?

2016-09-30 14:23

honestly, same...

2016-10-01 02:01

<3 Dsn

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Duuuuuudddeeee!!! DSN so sick! Hopefully he has a great understanding of the tactical changes from 1.6 to GO. Dude was a beast back in the day!

2016-09-30 16:15

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Yeah, a true legend. So weird that he's just moving from Sweden to China to coach some practical nonamers, after being away from CS for 5 years. Really fucking weird tbh. But I wish them the best of luck!

2016-10-01 00:18

Yeah man its pretty strange but he must see something in this team. Either that or he is looking at it as a paid vacation to china? lol

2016-10-01 00:46

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He probably gets a lot of money. But who is this orga?

2016-10-01 00:47

Ive never heard of them or any of the players. They also generally have sub par ratings so it is definitely an interesting choice. He must see something great int he org, players, or hes getting paid great money. Either way I am curious to see what the results are!

2016-10-03 19:35

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It must be the money

2016-10-03 19:37

It almost always is. Just looking at the ratings of these players Im baffled. If he was going to work with tyloo, cyber zen, born of fire, etc, that would make more sense. So he is basically getting paid bank to learn a language and be apart of the scene. Again, I wish them the best but it to an outsider like me it makes no sense. LOL

2016-10-05 21:35

It's the same in football lol. Good players get bought up by the Chinese league. The league is shit and nobody wants to play there, but the money those no-name clubs have is fucking ridiculous.

2016-10-06 00:07

Yeah he IS a legend :) :D !

2016-10-03 15:56

swede in china team lul

+1 ye wtf how is he gonna help them.

2016-09-30 11:18

He speaks Mandarinki language. Coaches them so they will play better as a team and have better tactics. What don't you understand?

2016-09-30 11:40

ez best china team cuz they got swede coach

2016-09-30 12:03

It's Mandarin!

2016-09-30 15:04

It's Mandarinki youtube.com/watch?v=lgxOvmzpCts xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

2016-09-30 15:55

dsn in a unknown chinese team maybe

2016-09-30 16:53

legend

expected

what the fuck

DeLuSioN

2016-09-30 11:04

wtf:D

Good to see acquisitions like this in the CN scene :D

Wtf gl

omg dsn O_o

haha mental... DSN one of the true legends of CS he will be a big help to them!

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true but csgo knowledge = 0

2016-09-30 11:17

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If you had a good understanding of CS it will be the same in CSGO lol, mostly the same shit. It would be different if he was playing but he isn't

2016-09-30 14:24

nah it's not the same, it's hard to coach and have enough tactical understanding when you haven't played yourself on high level

2016-09-30 14:35

?? Tactics are mostly the same wtf are you on about, it's only the mechanics of the game and skill that has changed lol, communicating also isn't something that has changed. Are you saying someone like lurppis or even thoorin would be bad coaches?

2016-09-30 14:44

not top level coaches... and thoorin loooool not gonna comment on that

2016-09-30 15:06

You haven't even provided any arguments to what you say " no you're wrong its not the same!!! " pls

2016-09-30 15:34

and you said it's the same? xD

Read #224

2016-09-30 15:42

Maybe, maybe not. We've seen a fair share of 1.6 players trying to adapt into CSGO and failing miserably. Doesn't mean that you know how the new meta works or how the game works in general if you last played 1.6 on a good level. CSGO is very different compared to 1.6 in pretty much every aspect other than the name and some old map layouts.

i understand what you're saying and maybe its true... but i feel someone like DSN even after stopping playing after fnatic will still have followed the game very closely and he probably understands and has a great knowledge of the game... even if he hasn't played a top level. Either way its good to have someone like him involved in the esports scene again... because in 1.6 he was one of the core players of the fnatic team that domiated for so long!

2016-09-30 11:23

True true, lets hope that things work out for him and the team. I just don't want to be super optimistic as it might not work out that well in the end. But we'll see. GL for them :)

2016-09-30 11:41

how many actually invested themselves into the game ?

2016-09-30 14:07

Not true. Tactics are still pretty much the same. There is no "meta" lmao this ain't LoL or dota

2016-09-30 14:25

Nah, even smoke grenades are different. In 1.6 you had to stack at least a couple of them for them to block vision. We have also new shit like molotovs and new maps. Also grenade throws differ. You can't just take your old 1.6 tactics and run them as they are in CSGO. Also the meta regarding economy / buying is different. Of course you can utilize your old skill-set and adapt it into CSGO but not everything works like 1.6 did... In 1.6 a single player could dominate the whole match if he was a god but in CSGO you (in my opinion) die a lot more easily. Also you can't spray down 5 guys with an M4/AK just like that even though that was very doable in 1.6. So weapons have changed a lot also. Long post with possibly stupid explanations but just wanted to prove my point that you cannot compare 1.6 and CSGO directly as many things have changed. Regarding the "meta" I do believe that there is one and it changes constantly, you can disagree if you want to. Just my 5 cents. Peace out bruh

2016-09-30 15:20

Yeah you can take old 1.6 tactics and do them better because of the different nades lol, also someone like dsn most likely can easily come up with new tactics. What you mentioned are just the mechanics of the game, takes you a few hours/days to get used to the nades in csgo. All you are mentioning are the mechanics that changed, i'm talking about the tactical side of the game, you are talking like he is gonna start playing again, then your comment would be 100% correct, but he's just coaching and he has a lot of experience from top tier teams, he knows how to play the game from a tactical point, how to communicate etc etc which will obviously help a new lower tier team with young players that don't have such experience. Not to mention he has followed the game for a while now. Meta changing would mean pros playing a completely different style without tactics and shit, since CSS and 1.6, it's pretty much been the same, you rush sites with tacticsand the CTs defend or push, that's the meta, and i don't think it will ever change.

2016-09-30 15:46

HE has followed the game closely.. he was there at majors and many other tournaments...

2016-09-30 14:52

lol?

lol

China number 1

Damn, the god from 1.6!

That's cool

5 asians and a swede? how dis work

dsn living in China ;)

2016-09-30 11:11

he should coach fnatic :(

2016-09-30 11:05

then Jumpy learn Chinese instead of him

2016-09-30 16:11

sick

Wha... WHATT WHAAAT Jk lol expected

Very funny guy

2016-09-30 11:25

Who joined what?

another person who know only cs:go scene and know nothing about living legends.

2016-09-30 18:57

dsn was in the greatest 1.6 team of all time. And he was one of the best awpers in the world

2016-10-01 04:31

he better speak mandarin

"I think to be a part of Chinese e-sports at this point in time is very exciting, and moving to Shanghai will also be beneficial for one of my personal goals, to speak fluent Chinese, a project I set out on nine months ago." Read the damn article.

2016-09-30 15:02

relax there guy xD

Legend is back <3

DSN LEGEND

2016-09-30 11:06

Finally

One of the most consistent awpers all time, gl legend

2016-09-30 11:07

WTF

hahahahha lol

2016-09-30 11:08

LOL WTF DID JUST HAPPEN?

2016-09-30 11:09

haha, Sweden to coach China, nice b8

are they decent players?

wtf?? good to see him back anyway :D

2016-09-30 11:12

In few months: DSN comeback as player xD

2016-09-30 11:13

china cs ..how long till number 0ne

2016-09-30 11:15

all the newfags writing who lmao

2016-09-30 11:16

1 person wrote who about the chinese team, 1 person wrote "who joins what?". Hardly a lot of these newfags ur talking about here.

look at comment numbers... so many deleted lol

oh didn't realise there were mods on hltv

2016-09-30 16:08

Jonathan E. is back, site is a lot cleaner now xD

2016-09-30 16:19

W000000t WB

Wow, I didn't even know that B.O.OT have a gaming house and everything.. good luck

I think most of the chinese teams have gaming houses, probably to just save costs

2016-09-30 11:19

that is sooooo cool

LEL

2016-09-30 11:21

legend :) go dsn go :D

"the team's hegemony in the 1.6 scene in 2007 and 2009". TOP KEK They didn't won biggest tournaments in these years. in 2007 PGS won ESWC and eMulate won WCG in 2009 there were like 3 big players - Fnatic, SK, and AGAiN

what was SK.2009 lineup? allen walle face RobbaN?

2016-09-30 11:31

it was allen walle RobbaN Tentpole and zet at the beginning if not mistaken and then -Tentpole -zet +face +kRHYSTAL :) but fnatic really stood out that year when they added Gux and Get_right

2016-09-30 11:55

2016-09-30 22:07

the lineup you are talking about is from 2010

2016-10-06 00:20

They still won the most tournaments any of those years. fnatic won more than PGS and eMulate 2007, and won more tournaments than AGAiN in 2009. SK was not successful at all in 2009.

2016-09-30 11:45

u r so fucking dumb KEK fnatic was the best team in 2009 and SK lost every single shit vs fnatic in 2009 jesus i cant stand ur stupidity

2016-09-30 12:07

OMG SO OLD

You guys are implying you can't learn another language.

2016-09-30 11:24

So how he will be able to assist the Chinese, if they barely know English!?

mh can speak english

2016-09-30 11:30

Please read before commenting, dsn said he's gonna speak fluent Chinese in 9 months

2016-09-30 11:36

Please read before commenting. "to speak fluent Chinese, a project I set out on nine months ago."

2016-09-30 11:38

So he has been studying mandarinki for 9 months already. Should speak badic language..

2016-09-30 11:44

doesn't actually say that. only that he set a goal 9 months ago to speak fluent chinese. it's possible he's been studying ever since, or hasn't studied at all, or anything in between. it's also possible he has been studying chinese for years, but only set the goal 9 months ago. none of this matters, of course :D but let's be specific and not make unnecessary assumptions.

I remember cArn also learnt Chinese, maybe they can talk with each other in Chinese now :D

2016-09-30 13:52

wtf is mandarinki?

I have no idea how is that supposed to work, cs:go is not 1.6, and dsn wasn't even IGL in fnatic

2016-09-30 11:26

dsn also paid a lot attention on CSGO, the BOOT club's main intention is to bring in Euro training mode, not just with usual Chinese training style

2016-09-30 13:54

haha r u kidding.. he used to call in many of the rounds.. carn said this in one of his vlogs.. he had a good insight

2016-09-30 14:57

LEGEND

2016-09-30 11:29

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, now that's refreshing ,D

DSN 1.6 legend <3

2016-09-30 11:33

Harley "dsn" Örwall best movie facebook.com/CsMania/posts/1291540604212..

must've watched that movie more than 30 times by now

2016-09-30 11:47

good movie. always fun to see the players getting fragged as well. to reminisce good old players and how the teams looked back then

2016-09-30 12:08

2016-09-30 14:58

MMd was such a sick moviemaker

2016-10-06 00:23

wtf

2016-09-30 11:34

lmao wat

Wow, I was rly suprised when i saw his nickname again on HLTV :) GL DSN, good to see you!

K but i reasume that they will talk English? =)

They will talk chinese, those playears dont even speak english, but dsn started learning chinese a long time ago, plus, if hes saying that his goal is to speak chinese fluently that means hes already got the base and probly has decent enough skills to be chosen as coach

2016-09-30 12:11

thanks for info man =)

2016-09-30 12:38

Basically he is coaching random chinese team with 4 out of 5 players having lower rating than 0.9 in china region only that can't be compared with quality even to NA when we take whole competition and teams quality overall. On other hand, the guy was 1.6 player, coming to coach cs:go team. Probably good money for him and nice experience living in other culture. GL but this is gonna be irrelevant i believe

2016-09-30 11:37

Yes, mad chinese money

well everything has a begining, dsn today, peacemaker nextday

2016-09-30 11:42

dsn might be helpful as a coach but... the players r just not too gud :/ still glad to see this news

30 y/o in 2016 lul

DSN, the always last man standing... wonder how all this will work out for him and the team

OMG DSNNNNNN FUCK MY LIFE

Game over. Chinese overlords will rule this world.

2016-09-30 11:51

legend <3

did dsn ever saw how csgo works?

Legend

2016-09-30 11:52

Nice Team

2016-09-30 11:54

*DEAD* fnatic.MSI Orwall : ne nah bred takoe vygrabatj

pay for name and not for knowledge FailFish just like NA

better than pay for cheats and win major

why do u reply every comment stupid fanboy L0L

2016-09-30 13:22

who?

2016-09-30 11:56

asking who dsn is is pretty retarded thing...

2016-09-30 12:22

i forgot that u are playing this game 45 years and u know everyone _____ who?

2016-09-30 12:28

He played for fnatic and made that franchise known in CS-scene with the likes of Carn & Forest.

2016-09-30 12:50

I'm 20 and know a lot about him, stop acting like a retard

good luck to them

Wow is all I can say...man time fly dsn upside down usp Hopefully some old school 1.6 still remember that =)

2016-09-30 12:00

join as player > as coach

2016-09-30 12:05

How the hell do they even communicate

omfg.

A swede and five chinese walk into a bar...

Hahahahhaha

2016-09-30 17:52

Thorin, where is the video mate?

2016-09-30 12:14

Who Coaches who?

2016-09-30 12:15

dsn <3

2016-09-30 12:16

Waste of time Tyloo Numba wan

2016-09-30 12:23

unexpected

dmn =/ I readed and tought he was going to play again.. but thats cool anyway =T

2016-09-30 12:24

literally who , why not tyloo

2016-09-30 12:30

2016-09-30 12:36

I saw his nick in the Active Threads and thought someone pulled a sick necro bait.

2016-09-30 12:44

Heh, this seems to be only a good opportunity for dsn.. I cannot see that a person who hasnt been involved in CSGO, can help that much in this day and age. Good luck at learning Chinese fluently. Not the easiest thing, speaking from experience and my friends experiences. Hopefully im wrong and they can succeed with this project!

2016-09-30 12:45

Omg wow

2016-09-30 12:48

CS:GO COME BACK TEAM : SpawN Dsn Heaton Pita Robban :)

2016-09-30 12:49

Rofl pita

2016-09-30 13:48

dsn was an absolute god in 1.6, but i think this team would benefit more from an ex-csgo pro

2016-09-30 12:51

slight exaggeration, he was a top player, but he was no god for sure, today he would be called Happy cuz he was one of the first master baiters back then.

2016-09-30 14:46

amazing

2016-09-30 12:52

Noice!!!! But they have to have an interpreter all the time right?

2016-09-30 13:04

1.6 legend

2016-09-30 13:06

sick!!

dsn got a good deal then! Rich chinese investing in dsn to coach their team. Nothing wrong with that, good luck to both!

2016-09-30 13:09

the legend is back!

2016-09-30 13:10

dsn legend! Wonderful AWP in CS 1.6!

2016-09-30 13:11

TBH it's gonna make no sense, all BOOT players have reach their litmit.

2016-09-30 13:12

DeLuSioN1

2016-09-30 13:21

Dsn GODDD

2016-09-30 13:32

kek

2016-09-30 13:33

who joined what?Kappa

2016-09-30 13:35

It's more like marketing move than team support.

2016-09-30 13:43

Interesting, gl to dsn

2016-09-30 13:47

GL Harley! Had to watch this again youtube.com/watch?v=L_T1yFgh6rc

gonna coach in english I guess?

WHAT

Nice

2016-09-30 13:59

does he speak mandarin or wat lul

2016-09-30 14:09

-=legend=-

2016-09-30 14:12

2016-09-30 14:13

cool haha

2016-09-30 14:14

Good luck King,since when he was playing cs 1.6 notice how much love he has with chinese culture.

2016-09-30 14:16

i think you should start to call it mandarin if you wanna go fluent.

haha probably gets around 5k monthly just for coaching chinese noobs best job on the planet

2016-09-30 14:47

WHAT??? and he cant speak chinese? is he even familiar with the CSGO scene

2016-09-30 15:05

EZ 4 D.S.N MingLee

2016-09-30 15:08

already knew about this like a week ago lul, 2gud

2016-09-30 15:14

Harley !!!

that mustve been a good offer man..

GL DSN and BOOT. Though I'm really not sure if it is gonna work well. New and advanced tactics for BOOT is true, but they need to work hard to fully execute the tactics.

2016-09-30 15:43

2016-09-30 15:59

He should've helped TyLoo instead who're already moving to EU for bootcamp. But it's his life and his decisions. Good to see your face after so long, old timer :)

2016-09-30 16:24

As a matter of fact, the B.O.O.T players aren't good enough.they always lose games they play as i know,i guess it wiil make no sense i'm sure.

2016-09-30 16:39

That's so true. Good tactics cannot be executed well with poor skills.

2016-09-30 18:05

wtf XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

2016-09-30 16:40

<3 dsn but feels weird to see him in a unknown chinese team

2016-09-30 16:54

old cs god

2016-09-30 17:14

god dsn

2016-09-30 17:42

Sounds like a joke

2016-09-30 18:15

Amazing how many fucking idiots are willing to hire guys who haven't played CS for years (or even played GO at the top level for that matter) to be coaches. dsn must be laughing his fucking head off.

2016-09-30 19:21

this will get nowhere

2016-09-30 19:43

dsn is de best cs players in the worlds!! he is from the swedens!

2016-09-30 19:52

overrated player

2016-09-30 20:10

Nice. I am sure half the kids above haven't seen him play live back in the days.

2016-09-30 20:22

You are so special.

2016-09-30 22:16

Du Haste

2016-09-30 23:32

My favourite player of all time, glad to see him back.

2016-09-30 22:14

I used to watch him alot back in 1.6, great awper. Good luck to him in his new journey.

"for one of my personal goals, to speak fluent Chinese, a project I set out on nine months ago" ROFL never in a million years will he be able to do it...he might get to a good level...but not fluent still. gz and hf while doing it. DO they have a translator (it would be very expensive to have one...) ? I doubt that the players can speak english that well...

2016-10-01 04:12

TRUE LEGEND

2016-10-01 05:00

good chance to grab some money but this wont last long im afraid. gl legend

2016-10-01 16:57

welcome

2016-10-02 04:05

why not VG.CYBERZEN???? OMG./.... cant imagine Legend why do this ??about money or just want to be a part of cs again? want to see more legend from 1.6 come out e.g. TRaCe-dA-DeVasT8R LEMONDOGS2012 niko kHRYSTAL Gux fRoD elemeNt cArn

2016-10-02 13:31