shox: Pause rules break up the game

3-10-2016 02:29

We talked to Richard 'shox' Papillon of G2 on the day following their early elimination from ESL One New York in order to hear how the team was coping with their losses and planning for the future.

G2, despite being currently ranked #3 in the world, found themselves quickly eliminated in eighth place at ESL One New York following crushing losses to Astralis, Liquid, and OpTic.

We found time to talk to team star Richard "⁠shox⁠" Papillon on the final day of ESL One New York to get a grasp on how the team was feeling, his thoughts on the new Valve pause rules, and the team's busy schedule.

You will be able to find all of our interviews from ESL One New York on our YouTube channel here.

stich writes for HLTV.org and can be found on Twitter

Great interview, for sure gonna watch it later!

2016-10-03 02:30

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french crying? nothing new here

2016-10-03 02:30

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he meant from a spectator's perspective as well, it was a general question

2016-10-03 02:31

9 replies

Nice trolling xD,m8

2016-10-03 07:53

He's totaly right. This pause rule is pure shit. It keeps on breaking the momentum of the game and teams don't even have to think about when they'll use their timeout now.

2016-10-03 14:09

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that just adds skill tho..

2016-10-04 10:11

if you comment on a guy who hunts for first, while having HLTV.org in your nick, and it was announced that hunting for first will now be punished, and this comment is still there, dont you think that sends a bit of a mixed message? personally im very confused now. is it allowed or isnt it, or does it depend on which admin reads the thread and what mood he's in?

2016-10-03 14:18

5 replies

he replied to #15, not to #1

2016-10-03 19:44

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2016-10-03 19:45

he replied to the comment chain originating from the fipo hunting comment imo that legitimizes it i dont really care about that rule its just annoying to see mods being inconsistent about things

2016-10-03 22:45

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tbh I don't really follow the new forum rules and kind of do what I want :P maybe I'll get banned next!

2016-10-04 18:29

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oh okay i thought there wouldve been a memo never mind then, carry on

2016-10-04 23:33

the new pause rules are absolutely trash, don't play yourself

2016-10-03 02:31

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can you back it off with some facts, why they are so trash? IMO it's a nice idea and it doesn't stop the tempo of enemy team that much.

2016-10-03 02:44

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That's bullshit and you know it. Slows the pace of the game right down and makes it a bit more boring to watch too.

2016-10-03 04:26

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pauses make more sense now, 40 seconds is not a long period of time XD trust me. those top teams waste this much time on walking before they hit the bomb site every round, so I busted your idea of 'slowing down game' and best prof just look at VP, did pause slow them down?

2016-10-03 04:57

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Even shox said it breaks the game, you think you know better ?

2016-10-03 10:40

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after being in 8th place he cries, i didnt see nobody else complaining

2016-10-03 11:00

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I hate kids what can I say

2016-10-03 11:03

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kids? what are you talking about?

2016-10-03 11:04

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He's not crying he was interviewed and asked about his opinion on the new pause system, Watch the whole interview he also talks about lot of others stuff

2016-10-03 11:05

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and i gave my opinion fanboy, whats the problem? you're the kid around here mate, dont be a baby fanboy youre funny calling me kid... ps:18 yrs? shut up virgin, wtf

2016-10-03 11:10

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Jezus christ captain autismo. Just because you're a sore loser, doesn't mean Shox is. He was asked about his personal opinion on the new system, regardless of his placement in the tournament. He didn't like it. He made a few good points. You should realize 18 is the average age here. You should also realize your age has nothing to do with your own maturity, as evident by your own behaviour. i didnt see nobody else complaining Nobody else got asked the same question, numbnuts.

2016-10-03 12:58

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okay, so you dont know me, and you call me captain autismo, loser and numbnuts and youre talking about maturity, make sense i gave my opinion and then he call me kid, what are you talking about? pls read the entire conversation before judging me

2016-10-03 13:13

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:^)

2016-10-03 14:04

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2016-10-03 14:06

2016-10-03 13:50

All have the same rules, so it is fair for everyone. The team with the best IGL will win, that was CS before this Coach bullshit.

2016-10-03 03:03

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well the pauses breaking the flow of the game (both for players and audience) has nothing to do with if it is fair or not..

2016-10-03 03:31

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its equal for everyone, we did saw great games anyway

2016-10-03 11:02

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yeah but no one is talking about if it is equal or not, it is not the point...

2016-10-03 12:44

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ok, so the point is if the pause break the flow my opinion is: can break yes, but you see that on a lot of sports and the pause have that purpose, and that is what makes the game more awesome

2016-10-03 13:09

2016-10-03 02:36

There should be only one tactical pause per map / 30 secs time...

2016-10-03 08:30

Wow Shox

2016-10-03 02:30

Ok shox is just having a fucking autism attack

2016-10-03 02:31

Cry

2016-10-03 02:29

g2 lul

2016-10-03 02:29

THE PAUSES BREAK THE GAME LMAO

2016-10-03 02:30

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He is right. They break the flow of the game for the viewers. They break the flow of the game for people who are used to non stop action. I kind of miss uninterrupted games from the start till the end.

2016-10-03 02:34

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Nearly every sport is having them. Football / Soccer when players are being swapped. American Football all the time. Basketball has timeouts. CSGO event organizers just need to find a good way to fill them with content.

2016-10-03 02:41

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You don't have timeouts in football

2016-10-03 03:00

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I never there are timeouts in anything but basketball. I said there are pauses that break the flow of the game for the viewer.

2016-10-03 03:07

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Retarded opinion. Substitutions and the half-time break in soccer are pretty much already there in CSGO without the stupid timeouts.

2016-10-03 08:38

+1 hate this rule

2016-10-03 04:16

u miss interrupted games from start to end? cs had pauses for a long ass time going back to 1.6

2016-10-03 05:03

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1.6 era there were one pause per team per map if I remember correctly. Now there are multiple and it sure is breaking the game at least from viewers perspective.

2016-10-03 08:05

first

2016-10-03 02:30

true

2016-10-03 02:30

suck it

2016-10-03 02:30

absolutely agree. this shit is killing the game, pause every 2 rounds, what kind of hell is that?

2016-10-03 02:31

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There are not pauses every 2 rounds.

2016-10-03 14:24

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but 8 pauses in 1 map sucks. 2 pauses for each team for 30 secs would be better.

2016-10-03 17:57

It really chops an exciting match for a viewer to pieces. Maybe better for players, definitely worse for the viewer.

2016-10-03 02:31

I agree

2016-10-03 02:31

ya right 30 second which is ok when you take them but it breaks the game when your opposition takes nice excuse for getting out early

2016-10-03 02:32

last

2016-10-03 02:32

And the new coaching rules

2016-10-03 02:32

Indeed, just do 1 timeout of 1 minute per half for each team

2016-10-03 02:33

#excuses

2016-10-03 02:34

2016-10-03 02:35

It will not stay long anyway, everyone is against that new shit made in valve

2016-10-03 02:35

I agree. Momentum is a thing of the past If you pause correctly, plus in a viewers pov it makes some games boring as fuck

2016-10-03 02:36

If Shox is saying. A merely mortal can't argue against.

2016-10-03 02:37

I agree. It sucks for viewers too. If you are having a momentum you deserved it. Stupid rule.

2016-10-03 02:37

The pauses make the games longer. People have shit to do

2016-10-03 02:37

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Still the same time as one 2-minute break lol.

2016-10-03 02:53

Matches van go from 30 min to 1+ hours so who cares about those couple minutes. If you have shit to do, don't start watching CS because you have no clue how long it will take to begin with.

2016-10-03 10:41

+1 its true 1 pause per team is fine these lans last all fucking day anyway

2016-10-03 02:39

Jonathan E. break up the HLTV see you in the next week, bye

2016-10-03 02:40

No. These breaks are great. Prevents a team from a possible tilt. You don't wanna freaking watch a team loosing a map, because they lost 3-4 crucial rounds on tilt. You want to see the best CS.

2016-10-03 02:49

Awesome interview!

2016-10-03 02:49

True, teams like Navi and SK, call a pause after losing a key round, and they call it again later. Wait... Are we playing volleyball?

2016-10-03 02:53

Pause rules was the problem 4 Head

2016-10-03 02:54

Cry more shox. Do you remember when he said "dont hate fnatic" lol.

2016-10-03 02:59

Maybe you shouldnt build your team entirely around momentum then

2016-10-03 02:59

Teams should talk while in Eco like 1.6, that should be the "pause" They give up the round but get their preparation for next No free pause timeout bullshit

2016-10-03 03:01

Nice interview But lot of peoples didn't even watched if they think shox blame the new pause system for their loss.

2016-10-03 03:05

I also dont like so much pauses, 1 pause in 1 half is fine tho. or even 1 pause, for whole match so you can think and use pause in right moment.

2016-10-03 03:09

2016-10-03 03:29

shox / the french scene have a long history of complaining when they lose. he employs a basically no tactics / strategy style of play. so of course hes gonna cry about pauses. i really enjoy the tactical side of the game and enjoy pauses. they are in a variety of real sports and adds another dimension to the game. czldlc of course is gonna complain about this.

2016-10-03 03:29

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He was asked his opinion about the new system, so he gave it. It's not like he came up with this when he was asked the reasons for their defeat. And he has a point, I think for the audience in general it's not that great, it cuts the action too often, and 30 seconds can be a bit short for an elaborate round plan. In my opinion it should be 2 x 1 min pause for each team, one per half.

2016-10-03 03:46

Ex6tenz was the problem 4head

2016-10-03 12:09

nice h8

2016-10-03 17:22

thats true shox, the new pause system just faking the match up.. atleast for me..

2016-10-03 03:29

2016-10-03 03:31

Shox the cry baby, typical french fries

2016-10-03 03:38

Impressive to see so much retard thinking he blame the pauses for their loss.. Guys make yourself a favor and go further than the title before comment an interview.

2016-10-03 03:45

All I heard was a baguette crying over spilled cafe au lait

2016-10-03 03:51

Shox is right, these pauses suck

2016-10-03 03:55

Agree, it's ridiculous, the game is paused so much it's killing any sort of momentum a team builds up.

2016-10-03 03:57

It's ridiculous

2016-10-03 04:30

rules in 2016 lul

2016-10-03 04:49

but ur team still suck

2016-10-03 04:52

totally agree.

2016-10-03 04:56

My advice is allow coaches to talk to dead players and the time before the round start, like a casual CS play rule.

2016-10-03 05:34

How is a fucking 30 second break game-breaking when the default time countdown before a round starts is 15 fucking seconds LMFAO.

2016-10-03 06:09

but it brings in more money from sponsors commercials

2016-10-03 06:11

It would be amazing if we were able to hear what they're talking about thought ... but problem would appear when fr/ru/br other not eng speaking team would call timeout xd

2016-10-03 06:16

haha hacker just complaining he couldn't hack.

2016-10-03 07:25

if no tactical pause.. you will see tecnical pause when needed lol.

2016-10-03 07:37

he's right

2016-10-03 07:48

Look at all this noobs who actually never play a game with pauses with the ESL config of an official tournament but who try to tell how much pauses are relevant or not :)

2016-10-03 08:01

nice hairstyle stitch

2016-10-03 08:31

+1 agreed CS always was about momentum and emotion. Having 8 pauses each match just take away the best thing about CS. It sucks so much.

2016-10-03 10:33

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The basics of CS are discipline, preparation, communication and standardisation of actions in a unit. momentum is that what can change a game, but its not the basic. the pause rule doesnt destroy the momentum. its the opposite. its an option to change the momentum in a new direction, to keep it, to regain it etc.

2016-10-03 10:55

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Yeah it destroys it. It's just bad as when you're cumming and the girl doesnt stop sucking your penis head.

2016-10-03 10:57

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2016-10-03 11:00

#3 in HLTV ranking* No way in hell they are remotely close to that in reality. No shit another Frenchie is going to cry when his team has the tactical insights of a silver 2 team and depends on 2 inconsistent guys to carry to a win.

2016-10-03 10:37

lol crying baguette! look at the quality of the matches and the increased depth the games had with the small adjustments the teams were able to do thanks to the short timeouts! this is win-win for both, teams and viewers! sure that the most braindead team got rekt 0-3 because of that and is crying now

2016-10-03 10:41

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if they need time out for that,it show how cs is low in term of a tactical game lol they can t adjut during the game ? good teams does and never needed time out for that. 1 is ok , more is boring and feel like just cheating for teams who can t adjust.. a weakness should be punished

2016-10-03 11:16

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pls stfu. All 3 final stage matches are among the best and most entertaining matches in the last 12 months! insane up and downs, streaks, momentum plays, tactical depth. great crowd, great emotions on the players etc. and than, there comes the rekted baguette: "pause rule break up the game" I cant believe that we even are discussing this obv. bullshit. and the 2 guys who ""argue"" here with me talk about penis head and "feel like cheating" shit. hltv shit :DD

2016-10-03 11:21

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blahblah belive what you want..like i said if a team need a time out to adjust their game, they are weak and should be punished for this.. think how much time out they would need in a strategical game ? breaking momentum there is not even need of a time out for this.. cs is just a fucking random game thats all..all match could be replayed and have a totally different outcome and score at the end, it s not about pause, it s about random timing no one can control

2016-10-03 12:02

He's right

2016-10-03 12:11

what a massive crying faggot rofl pathetic cant take the loss

2016-10-03 12:14

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What do you mean, he clearly stated the G2 team played like trash, the losses were due to their mistakes. How is this crying?

2016-10-03 14:09

was about to post the same and i completely agree with him. its like oh we lost 1 round lets make a pause. oh we won next one lets make a pause again because we are retarded and cant decide whether to buy ump or ak. its cancer for the viewers, its cancer for the players with the momentum its just awful.

2016-10-03 12:36

agree 1 pause is ok but nowadays every 2-3 rounds there is a pause

2016-10-03 14:06

This is why NBA is buying orgs in CSGO.

2016-10-03 14:12

all I see is mimimimi

2016-10-03 14:14

This isn't the NFL. We don't need 100 timeouts just play the fucking game.

2016-10-03 16:02

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yeah man, thats the reason i hate most US-Sports... especially football is boring to watch. "An average professional football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes."

2016-10-03 18:05

Dont like the system. Its annoying for players and viewers. Better would be if the coach can lead ingame as before and every team has 2 pauses for 30 secs.

2016-10-03 18:03