forget: We're not afraid of losing

We interviewed Lei "forget" Li, who will be making a return to top-level competition after his debut 7 years ago as his team UYA (formerly 5POWER) will participate in the SL i-League StarSeries S3 Finals next week.

After a series of lackluster results in 2016, Chinese team 5POWER made a couple of lineup changes at the end of the year, bringing in ZhiHai "⁠QKA⁠" Fu and ZhenDong "⁠Not7⁠" Mo, and have since then seen their fortunes improve.

Following the holiday break for the "Spring Festival" (Chinese New Year), the team upset TyLoo in the qualifier for SL i-League StarSeries S3 and earned their first ever trip to Europe and a spot at a big international event.

They added to that success by finishing top four at a smaller international LAN called China Cup two weeks ago, where they were the only team to win a map against TyLoo while giving them a good fight in the semi-final (18-22 Cache, 16-6 Cbble, 6-16 Mirage).

Since then they have been preparing for their big international debut at the $300,000 event, while their organization recently changed its name through a merger and they will now represent UYA in Ukraine next week.


Li "forget" Lei spoke to HLTV.org ahead of SL i-League StarSeries S3

For that occasion, we spoke to the team's most experienced player and in-game leader Lei "⁠forget⁠" Li, who is the only one to have previously attended a big international LAN, albeit back in CS 1.6.

(The interview was conducted before 5POWER took part in the Chinese qualifier for IEM Sydney, where they were bested by the eventual winners ViCi in the quarter-final.)

Hello forget, let's start with a bit of history – you had your debut at a big international event almost 7 years ago at IEM5 GC Shanghai, when your team Inner Mongolia replaced mousesports (who withdrew due to cyx's tragic accident) and there you proved yourself as a big talent in China, especially for your AWPing skills, even making our Top players list. At StarSeries S3 you will face the world's best for the first time since then, can you tell us what you have been doing for the 7 years since that time, what changed in your life and how did you evolve as a player?

Yes, we were very honoured to attend IEM, such a large international event. But I was deeply saddened by cyx's departure, he was a great player. I have been transitioning from CS 1.6 to CSGO in these years, playing for many different teams. There was a period of time when I gave up on playing CS professionally, but I couldn't stay away, that is why I came back.

Since we have many readers who are not familiar with your team, can you tell us a little bit about each player, the roles, experience, strengths and weaknesses? And do you have a coach, and if yes, how much involvement and what kind (strategy, motivation) does he have?

Our coach is Long "⁠JimmyL⁠" Jing aka "Brother Long" (note: they call him Long Ge in Chinese, which means "brother dragon"), he has so many roles in the club. He is the owner of the club, our big brother, coach, babysitter, security guard, analyst and psychologist. He is amazing!

We are really appreciative of Brother Long's contribution, his unique knowledge of the game is very helpful, we have great times analyzing and researching tactics. Our practice is strict, but JimmyL is one of the best coaches and mentors for CSGO in my opinion. When we are arguing or feel depressed, Long helps us. I feel very lucky and I'm thankful to Brother Long for choosing me.

My teammate Wei "⁠shuadapai⁠" Wang is a player who has the most professionalism I've ever seen, we are all infected by him. HongGuang "⁠Stevie⁠" Li, he is fat but he is really good at basketball, he has really good aim skill as well. ZhiHai "⁠QKA⁠" Fu is our main AWPer, he is young with good movement, he comes up with ideas and always knows what to do during a match.  ZhenDong "⁠Not7⁠" Mo (LoveZ) - we feel assured every time he is left playing a clutch situation, he is our clutch master with a calm and steady personality.


5POWER's gaming house is said to be one of the best in China

What kind of playing conditions does your team have at 5POWER (now UYA), do you have a salary that allows you to play CS:GO professionally? Does your age (four players over 26 years old) provide any limitations for you or your teammates (like family commitments, less time to play, less motivation)?

Our club is in Dalian, Liaoning Province. We have a pretty good practice environment, and our club house is by the water and near the mountains. Everything at the club including salary is stable, so we have no worries, we can fully concentrate on the practice and officials.

I think we are still young, f0rest, TaZ and NEO are almost 30, and they are still playing at the top level. If they can do it, so can we. shuadapai is already married, the rest of us are not. I want to marry my Chunchun (girlfriend), she has been waiting for me at home for so many years. I have promised her I will be marrying her once I grab a trophy.

You went through many lineup changes in the past year, but since adding Not7 recently you started getting better results, such as qualifying for StarSeries by beating TyLoo and now a top4 finish at China Cup. What kind of improvement did this lineup change bring, is it mostly higher skill in the team or did you improve in some other way?

In December of 2016 we brought in Not7 and QKA. We should give credits to our coach who did a really good job scouting these two talents, they keep surprising us in every match. We regret that at China Cup we didn't take the chance we had of beating TyLoo 2-0. We ended up losing 1-2, didn't make it to the finals. But we are feeling very good right now, we still have some communication problems, but I believe we can make it perfect. Our style now is more detailed, careful and we have more tactics than before.


UYA ahead of their flight to Kiev
(left to right) Yang Xu - manager,  Not7, Stevie, JimmyL - coach, shuadapai, QKA
(crouching) forget

How did your preparations for StarSeries look, how much practice did you put in? Is there something specific that you focused on (map pool, anti-stratting, individual skills)?

We have been preparing some strategies and tactics for SL i-League, but also trying to keep our own style. Our coach brother Long gave us 4 days of rest (after China Cup), then we started the practice for the event. I know that we will play the Swiss system, random opponents, in which case it is hard to prepare anti-strats. Every match will be tough, but we will try our best to go through to the playoffs.

Now that you had time to analyze your performance at China Cup, what are your thoughts about it, are you satisfied? You were the only team to win a map against the new TyLoo lineup there and you also played double overtime against them on map 1, do you have some regrets about that map, or anything else during the tournament?

We got up at 7am that morning, we arrived at the venue, then we spent all the time competing on the stage until 4am of the next day, which is a total of 21 hours! We lost 1:2 to TyLoo, and didn't manage to get to the finals, but we were all exhausted at the time and I was not playing in my best form. I believe we could have beat TyLoo, they are a tough rival of ours, but also good friends. Our biggest regret is that we couldn't bring the trophy back home.

Player Age Rating
China Wei "⁠shuadapai⁠" Wang 26 1.12
China ZhiHai "⁠QKA⁠" Fu 23 1.05
China Lei "⁠forget⁠" Li 27 1.05
China ZhenDong "⁠Not7⁠" Mo 27 0.99
China HongGuang "⁠Stevie⁠" Li 26 0.92

UYA player ratings in the past 3 months

As this will be the first big CS:GO event for every player in your team, what are your goals/ambitions in Kiev? What do you think will be your team's main strength when facing the world's best teams?

For us, SL i-League S3 is a high-intensity exercise, each team there is among the best in the world. We hope we can qualify for the top 8. Our advantage is that we are not afraid of losing, but they are, that is their weakness. Let's go! Let's go! Let's go!

After Kiev, what are your team's plans? Which tournaments after that are the most important? What kind of goals have you set for the rest of the season/year?

After Kiev, we will pay attention to all the events possible for us. The club has a plan to send the team abroad to have a bootcamp. We hope we can play well and win.

With the latest transfer news, it seems that Chinese top teams have realized that young Chinese players are not developing fast enough and instead look for players in the rest of Asia (like BnTeT, Freeman and a few others) – what do you think is the problem for Chinese young players? What would you change in Chinese CS:GO structure to guarantee a better future for local players?

The young generation of Chinese players don't have many chances to play official matches, and they are also lacking professional mentors to teach them, some of them can't find the best way to improve on their own. 5Power will create an academy in the near future, all under-19 players with a dream can come. There will be a professional course and teachers here to train them.

On a personal level, what are the plans for "forget" in the CS:GO future, what are your career goals and ambitions?

My goal is very simple, to be a good professional player. As long as I am still in the club, I will try my best to fight for the club's glory. If one day I retire, I will become a caster.

The newly renamed team UYA enter the tournament as arguably the biggest underdogs, and they will play against Natus Vincere in the last match of day one (April 4th).

HLTV.org would like to extend thanks to Chang Marshall Luo and Pan Xu for helping out with the translation during the interview process.

China ZhenDong 'Not7' Mo
ZhenDong 'Not7' Mo
Age:
27
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
69
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
China Lei 'forget' Li
Lei 'forget' Li
Age:
27
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
134
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.72
China Wei 'shuadapai' Wang
Wei 'shuadapai' Wang
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
88
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
China HongGuang 'Stevie' Li
HongGuang 'Stevie' Li
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
99
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.72
China ZhiHai 'QKA' Fu
ZhiHai 'QKA' Fu
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
92
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.69
China Long 'JimmyL' Jing
Long 'JimmyL' Jing
Age:
37
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
8
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.65
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#18
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sissi | 
Nigeria EczeL
Duuude I was gonna say that.. Edit: now you made me look like a loser, thx
2017-04-01 16:49
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#6
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kaboose | 
Finland fe11owH
Cool !
2017-04-01 16:48
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#7
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Sweden confirmed
nice! :)
2017-04-01 16:48
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good
2017-04-01 16:48
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#9
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Lithuania fFlashh
haha
2017-04-01 16:48
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#16
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Canada kthxy0
don't forget to not loose
2017-04-01 16:48
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not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached. "a loose tooth" synonyms:not fixed in place, not secure, unsecured, unattached;
2017-04-01 16:50
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#26
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Canada kthxy0
na scene i are think this
2017-04-01 16:51
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suepr team i arent think that xD
2017-04-01 16:52
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#37
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Canada kthxy0
2 majors I are think that 2 fails in major while getting carried by european i are think that
2017-04-01 16:55
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where this european was when time for finals? he was bottom frag or 2nd bottom frag of finals and every game he played well American player ELiGE was rekting too so what is point?
2017-04-01 17:04
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#57
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Canada kthxy0
that's why when he left Liquid became so good because as u said he was bottomfrag? lul after he left Liquid were god without this noob LMAO
2017-04-01 17:25
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dude stfu c9 destroyed SK at epl liquid had peacemaker thats why and they had a good run at esl ny and they beat navi on cobble your point?
2017-04-02 07:36
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Sweden Trkmag
Had the US even won a big international event before last fall?
2017-04-02 11:36
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eleague s2
2017-04-02 21:27
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#110
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Sweden Trkmag
I'll take that as a bait
2017-04-03 12:11
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#19
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Lake | 
United States No5712
forget were not afraid of losing
2017-04-01 16:49
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France binet
...just surprised of winning"
2017-04-01 16:50
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#28
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Canada kthxy0
n1 fake binet isn't on hltv only vakarm and G2 gaminghouse ntnt
2017-04-01 16:52
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#25
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Bulgaria kr9ptonn
Good to know that ur not afraid because thats what ur gonna do the whole event
2017-04-01 16:52
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#31
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Canada kthxy0
damn savage
2017-04-01 16:52
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HongGuang "Stevie" Li, he is fat but he is really good at basketball WTF? XD
2017-04-01 16:53
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Puls3 | 
World bigb1rd
Possibly the best interview quote ever on HLTV.
2017-04-01 17:00
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#34
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Singapore Trisha
if they freestyled the entire tournament i think a few upsets can be pulled off:) not being afraid of losing is a big advantage to them compared to other teams
2017-04-01 16:54
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#35
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China Tomaten
nt tier10 team
2017-04-01 16:54
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#36
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Portugal dracø
Ok I forgot
2017-04-01 16:54
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#38
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Poland mamba99999
Nice to see they already know they won't go far.
2017-04-01 16:56
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they will beat some teams for sure. GL!
2017-04-01 16:56
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super
2017-04-01 16:57
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HongGuang "Stevie" Li, he is fat but he is really good at basketball, he has really good aim skill as well. LOL!!!!!!
2017-04-01 17:04
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United States stotte
Why is that even a thing he would bring up?
2017-04-02 01:23
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World Antifrag
"I want to marry my Chunchun (girlfriend), she has been waiting for me at home for so many years. I have promised her I will be marrying her once I grab a trophy." "Of course I want to marry you. Just wait a bit for me to achieve something in my job first." Charming ^^.
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Switzerland Yabbahh
I have promised her I will be marrying her once I grab a trophy." This is a whole new lvl of cuckholdery i feel sorry for her XDD
2017-04-01 17:30
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Europe vivabelarus1514
instant forever alone guy
2017-04-02 12:45
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#54
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Sweden Flukey
He can forget about winning.
2017-04-01 17:19
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#55
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Malaysia phyzell
Waste of time watching a loser's match. Money on the streets go get em!
2017-04-01 17:20
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Because he never tasted a win TOP KEKS
2017-04-01 17:40
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A very good interview, gl in Kiev!
2017-04-01 17:48
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good thing he's not afraid to lose cause it's gonna happen
2017-04-01 17:49
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f0rest | 
Serbia dankooo
because you cant win
2017-04-01 18:05
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Nice to see other chinese team! Good luck boys, but not against my country, my teams <3 We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2017-04-01 18:44
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your baits are pretty old actually stop trying
2017-04-02 07:37
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India transformer
gl UYA, i don't see them winning one match, in the current swiss format system.
2017-04-01 18:47
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BnTeT | 
Indonesia rareguy
"We're afraid to win"
2017-04-01 19:12
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You are right but they are definitely not afraid of losing against you, LOL.
2017-04-01 19:16
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Germany ConAction
HongGuang "Stevie" Li, he is fat but he is really good at basketball, like what the hell??? LMFAO :DD
2017-04-01 20:03
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China Paracios
ez 4 fat but good at basketball
2017-04-01 20:10
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he is fat but he is really good at xxx new hltv meme of 2017
2017-04-01 20:46
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Denmark TheDane
he is fat but he is really good at basketball lmao After reading this I've actually gained some respect for this guy, hope UYA can upset a few teams
2017-04-01 21:45
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we are never afraid of losing because we do it all the time lelxd
2017-04-01 21:54
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Lithuania heseK
he is fat but he is really good at basketball
2017-04-01 23:10
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China qwe8706
gl
2017-04-02 11:08
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Czech Republic thek!ng
That's great because you will lose
2017-04-02 11:08
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Why is it all Chinese pro names are the best? - SOMEBODY - Forget - Mo - ATTACKER I could go on... they're all really cool compared to that of- let's say: "Jayzwalking"... Yeah...
2017-04-02 11:18
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AdreN | 
England Lonom8
good interview +1
2017-04-02 12:38
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f0rest | 
Croatia worstplaya
Its better not being afraid to loose when its the only result you do
2017-04-02 13:09
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5Power will create an academy in the near future, all under-19 players with a dream can come. There will be a professional course and teachers here to train them. CSGO Schools coming bois. Chinese invasion into csgo.
2017-04-02 20:13
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Who
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