FalleN: "I feel that coldzera really wants to win [the MVP]"

Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo talked to us following SK winning over their countrymen Immortals in the fourth round, securing a 3-1 record and a place in the quarter-finals.

SK became another name in the playoffs, as they secured their third win after the Brazilian derby on Overpass, which went the way of the tournament favorites with João "⁠felps⁠" Vasconcellos putting up 37 kills (2.40 rating 2.0).

We got a hold of Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo to talk about his squad's journey to playoffs, during which they conceded Inferno to BIG while defeating PENTA and Astralis, and Marcelo "⁠coldzera⁠" David's performance throughout the group stage.

A different tournament will start in playoffs, FalleN says

The in-game leader also shared his point of view of the crouch jump discussion that led to all teams agreeing not to use it throughout the remainder of the tournament:

Let's run through the group and how satisfied you were with your performance, given some of the matches in which you were heavily favored being close.

I think I'm satisfied. The match against BIG, I think we could have had a big chance to win, we screwed up some rounds that were very, very important. I'm personally not satisfied too much with my level in those games, but the team has been great, we had coldzera playing amazing games, we had felps outstanding now in the last one. The important thing was getting out of groups, it's a different tournament starting now in playoffs.

How fantastic was coldzera, 35 kills in the first two matches, does he just get extremely determined at the Majors?

Yeah, coldzera loves playing Majors, right, he was MVP at the last two and I personally feel that he really wants to win this one as well. Not only because it's a Major, but because the last tournaments we saw fer being the MVP, we saw me, and I think he feels like he needs to be the one at this tournament. I hope that's a good thing, it could hurt him because sometimes you're expecting too much from yourself, or going too hard on the things you're doing.

But I think he's had a great tournament and he has the right mindset for it, he's not thinking too much about it. He's an excellent player, he can do everything. Sometimes, he overthinks too much, as every single player does, and it can hurt us, but it's very difficult to catch coldzera off-guard. For example, in the match today, we were going to do a B execute and someone from Immortals broke the door with a nade, and he adjusted in miliseconds and we had the right answer for what was happening.

In the first three matches in the group, you played Inferno, do you now see that as one of your best maps?

Yeah, Inferno is definitely one of our best maps. We can play six maps but Nuke and it's hard to say which map is our best right now, because we have been playing a lot, and sometimes our Train is good, sometimes it's Overpass, there are tournaments where Cache is good but on the other hand, it goes south sometimes. It really depends, it depends on the tournament, it depends on how much focus we put in practice before as well, and it depends on which team you're playing against.

FalleN isn't sure what SK's best map is

You must have expected Immortals to pick Overpass, why did you feel comfortable facing them on it, given their results on it here, overtime against Astralis and a win over Na`Vi, two of the best teams in the world on that map?

To be honest, I don't think too much about who teams beat on it when I'm choosing a map. If you think that way, it can go very wrong, our team plays very differently from the other one.

You have to watch the match and understand why they won. If you consider the match Immortals won against Na`Vi for example, I felt that Na`Vi definitely had a chance of winning that map, but Immortals took it from them. If you look at the game, we knew the way they like to play, we are comfortable starting on CT, and Overpass CT side is a hell of a side for us.

One last question about the discussion that we had a couple of days ago about the crouch jump bug, what are your thoughts on how the players approached that situation and how it got resolved in the end?

The thing is, we don't have an association that is really well executed, which means those kinds of concerns right now are more about you going and trying to solve it with other players. It doesn't make a perfect path, the information doesn't flow from where it should to someone who can take care of it or can do decisions.

When they started doing it against Immortals at the qualifier, Immortals complained and people were like 'well, you should have studied them'. And then nobody cared about that and then they go and beat FaZe, and people go 'oh, now they beat FaZe, now this is a little bit too much.' BIG made this a part of their game, because every single setup as CT, in afterplants, it's like they're abusing it to a next level.

If you start to think about this crouch bug, it's basically a wallhack. A wallhack makes you see other people without them seeing you, the jump makes you see other people without them seeing you. So it's basically the same thing, and of course it shouldn't be in the game.

What happened is: I was one of the guys who started the conversation, we needed to do something, for me this bug was ruining the tournament. It wasn't real Counter-Strike, so we needed to do something about it. I went to karrigan and said 'let's group up with the other teams and try to discuss it'. Unfortunately, BIG wasn't here at the beginning, and I wasn't able to finish the entire conversation with the Valve guys and everyone from the tournament, because we had a match.

But they were able to reach a satisfying resolution, because Valve can't enforce it right now, they can't change the game, they can't fix it on a moment's notice. So the only way was for the teams to understand that this is too much and it shouldn't be done. In our match, I think they used it sometimes, but using it once or twice is not too much, and people have been doing that for the past month. I personally don't think we lost because of it, even if they got some kills with it, we were perfectly capable of winning that match and we lost it in other moments.

What I think is a shame is that BIG is a really good team. This somehow damages their reputation in the community and the players, but I hope they can still do great in the playoffs and even more without using it, because they have a very good team right now. They're well prepared, they have good strategies, a good leader, everything is going well for them. I'm cheering for them.

Brazil Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.22
Maps played:
564
KPR:
0.82
DPR:
0.61
Brazil João 'felps' Vasconcellos
João 'felps' Vasconcellos
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
406
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.71
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
610
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.60
Nubs
2017-07-19 22:06
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#21
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United Kingdom AlywOw
Yeah they will get out in quarters, sorry cold but no MVP.
2017-07-19 22:08
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14 replies
Ok.
2017-07-19 22:15
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5 replies
hltv nobody cares about your mvp award. stop making it seem important, it is ridiculous actually
2017-07-19 22:36
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4 replies
#86
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Brazil agoravai
Yes, a bunch of ppl do care about it, stfu
2017-07-20 04:00
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#111
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Germany No_Kappa
actually once HLTV fixed their ranking explanations and detailed it they gained a lot of respect from analysts and community. Now days not only is HLTV rank important but also their MVP.
2017-07-21 01:33
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Do you know you can bet the mvp of this major on Bet365????? The mvp for cold was like 1:7
2017-07-21 06:39
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now its only 11/8 :D
2017-07-21 13:09
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#54
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Portugal tioNik
Ok.
2017-07-19 22:34
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2017-07-19 23:15
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6 replies
#75
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Brazil mtskw1k
+cold x)
2017-07-19 23:35
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5 replies
sooner or later with the success that FALLEN COLDZERA TACO more ... does soon they are leaving SK and going to teams like VIRTUSPRO FAZE NiP FNATIC is the totality of the business
2017-07-19 23:37
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#77
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Brazil mtskw1k
I hope that the flag or team spirit really is the crucial point, given that they are excellent players and people.
2017-07-19 23:41
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Why would they Change orgs? SK ist easily on a Level with the aforementioned orgas, both financially and competitively.
2017-07-20 09:33
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I really wanted to see a Brazilian organization that gave the necessary support for this guys! This would make the scenery of cs change a lot in our country! I know it, mibr in partnership with some companies ...
2017-07-20 22:27
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you must be retard SK gives them full attention + they get more money than players from those orgs you mentioned There is no way for them to leave SK
2017-07-21 00:00
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almost rip but cold stronk
2017-07-19 22:06
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#3
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United States Hiiiiii
k
2017-07-19 22:06
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#4
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Brazil uhul
xd
2017-07-19 22:06
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#5
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United Kingdom HarryBotter
#RUNSKG
2017-07-19 22:06
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#6
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France Static2k
Cool
2017-07-19 22:06
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#7
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Brazil stronder
I feel that too
2017-07-19 22:06
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#8
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Denmark slacking
great now where's fnatic news??
2017-07-19 22:06
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real surprise
2017-07-19 22:06
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7 replies
#17
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Malaysia byaIi
sorry but MVP is for tabseN :/
2017-07-19 22:07
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6 replies
kkkkkkkkkkkkk cu in playoffs
2017-07-19 22:09
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"Fan of Bug" Ooooops, BIG hahahahahahaha
2017-07-19 23:49
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4 replies
#81
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Malaysia byaIi
"fan of coldzera" Oppps, coldzera hahahahahaha
2017-07-20 00:17
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1 reply
+1 typical favela doesn't understand bait lul
2017-07-21 11:36
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Even your God FalleN approves of them using it sometimes and says they're a Really good Team. Just cut your shitshow already.
2017-07-20 09:34
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1 reply
Triggered?
2017-07-20 22:30
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#10
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Malaysia byaIi
ofc he is coldzera
2017-07-19 22:06
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#11
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Brazil Nickzim
Today was Felps's day, sorry Cold.
2017-07-19 22:07
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#12
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ScreaM | 
Dominican Republic casxd
wallen
2017-07-19 22:07
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#13
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Argentina ZaraLarsson
Felps: "hold my beer"
2017-07-19 22:07
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1 reply
+1
2017-07-19 22:43
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coldzera is the best player in SK so ofc he wants to get the MVP in the team
2017-07-19 22:07
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#70
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Germany ConAction
lol when you already have such a good reputation and everybody sees you as the best player in the world you should honestly be so kind and grant the mvp to your teammates and be happy for them !!
2017-07-19 23:17
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2 replies
nah, you take it by yourself EZ to get the spot #2 or #1 best in the world
2017-07-19 23:17
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1 reply
#72
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Germany ConAction
wtf
2017-07-19 23:19
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nt, ez jw and olof Kappa???
2017-07-19 22:07
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#16
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Algeria JaMesBLIND
why my galaxy s5 flickring in low light ?
2017-07-19 22:07
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#18
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Slovakia ronyES
I think MVP is for Winner team ...
2017-07-19 22:07
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1 reply
Exactly... is just Fallen being too confident
2017-07-19 22:09
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AdreN is gonna win it
2017-07-19 22:08
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Adren+tabsen= 1/2 coldzera! Ahahaha
2017-07-19 22:54
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1 reply
#99
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Europe Heavon
hltv.org/stats?event=2720 NT, HAHAHAHAH looooooser
2017-07-20 14:16
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Isso é a cara do Cold mesmo, não quer perder o MVP nem para os próprios teammates kkkkkk
2017-07-19 22:08
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SRY SK BUT FNATIC IS BACK <3 #RUNFNATIC #OLOFMVP
2017-07-19 22:09
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+1 Good guy :D
2017-07-19 22:21
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#27
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Europe Heavon
It's possible... If AdreN & tabseN dies tomorrow.
2017-07-19 22:10
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Coldzera>>>>>>>>adren & tabsen
2017-07-19 22:32
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#52
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2017-07-19 22:33
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Adren is doing better, but is not as consistent and impactful. Sure he could be a thing.
2017-07-19 22:39
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#118
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Germany kick_friberg_ffs
Talking about impact hahahaha
2017-07-22 10:31
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hahahaha, lul xD
2017-07-22 16:38
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wallen
2017-07-19 22:10
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#30
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Poland nclme1ster
ez4 godzera
2017-07-19 22:11
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LOL BIG is incredible on Inferno. I'd like to see them play other maps. In best-of-3 they're dead let's be honest.
2017-07-19 22:12
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#32
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Brazil bacon1
about the bug... fallen do the real thing...
2017-07-19 22:12
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BUG
2017-07-19 22:13
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#34
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Brazil flytwNiP
last tournaments we saw fer being the MVP, we saw me, and I think he feels like he needs to be the one at this tournament.....its a competition now?
2017-07-19 22:14
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I understood it more as Colds think he is underperforming (which is not true) , so he wants to prove either for himself or the others that he still is the top 1 in the world, + he wants to make a legacy as a player so him being top 1 always is a must
2017-07-19 23:28
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#35
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Brazil AlanM31337
nice interview!
2017-07-19 22:14
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#37
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Brazil hunte[R]
nice fallen, thats right. SK super sayajin to playoffs
2017-07-19 22:18
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#40
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Brazil Juneco
"its not real cs" yeah fallen i think that way too
2017-07-19 22:19
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#41
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Brazil Cleits
RunSKG Coldzer0°C
2017-07-19 22:20
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#43
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Turkey powergs
I lost all respect i had for 2Face Toledo.This was cocky nobody knows SK gonna win major such a low move by 2Face Toledo
2017-07-19 22:21
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lmao walleN calling the crouch bug a wallhack when he is the one using aimlocks to get information of the opponents and perfectly move his teammates for the 100% counterplay twofaced toledo strikes again
2017-07-19 22:22
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#58
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Brazil erfur
mi mi mi mi
2017-07-19 22:38
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#65
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Brazil potat
Nice brain damage
2017-07-19 22:54
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#89
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Brazil agoravai
Very good, i'll translate to my ppl so they can understand: mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi
2017-07-20 04:47
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proof?
2017-07-20 19:35
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It really can happen, they are playing like crazy on this major!
2017-07-19 22:23
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Fallen mastermind! expected!
2017-07-19 22:23
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tabsen > cold in terms of carrying his team to the win :)
2017-07-19 22:23
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Lol, coldzera deserve the man of the match more than tabseN...
2017-07-19 22:34
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not true caralho
2017-07-19 22:40
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Only see the stats Hahahahah coldzera >>>> tabseN
2017-07-20 04:23
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Of course, SK is not so dependent on him, so he doesn't need to carry every match, meanwhile tabseN...
2017-07-19 23:23
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fallen is an god
2017-07-19 22:30
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#55
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Stewie2K | 
Japan Balikali
I love reading fallen, and SK displays a beautiful cs. glad to see back a prestigious org
2017-07-19 22:35
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FalleN's interviews are so good to read. He knows too much of the game.
2017-07-19 22:48
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#67
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Europe Elyee
nice game
2017-07-19 23:03
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#68
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Spain alf4
wallen explaining the definition of a wallhack is hilarious.
2017-07-19 23:10
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#78
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Brazil BrunoRomio
BIG WallBug
2017-07-19 23:48
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#80
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Czech Republic KLothbrok
Greedy fak destroying the team morale -coldzera +fnx
2017-07-19 23:52
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#82
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Armenia Imissexoptic
Fallen dude. What are you talking about you used technical pause as a tactical at eleague and now on your talking about fair play? NICE
2017-07-20 00:41
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#84
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France MR^X
SK is gonna win again this tournament ... MAJOR *3 ;)
2017-07-20 01:13
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Cold is actually insane this major, he's playing a like a BEAST. 70 kills in 2 maps, 98 in 3 and 116 in 4. just wow
2017-07-20 01:22
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yeah bro
2017-07-20 04:32
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#90
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Finland BlackMatter
First he states that crouch jump is like using wallhack and then says that its okay to use it once or twice in a game. Logic much?
2017-07-20 08:18
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#91
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Sweden Madrigals1
Its okay, that we use aimlock once or twice per game. Each of us. We smart, we loyal.
2017-07-20 08:58
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#96
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Finland BlackMatter
I'm definetly not jumping to the 'sk cheats' bandwagon but yeah, in this interview he's basically saying that it's okay to cheat in a couple of rounds so it doesn't decide the whole match :D
2017-07-20 11:12
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" In our match, I think they used it sometimes, but using it once or twice is not too much, and people have been doing that for the past month." You seems to be polite and smart so please read it again. He did not said it is ok. He said its not right BUT a lot of players have been doing this shit, the difference is that BIG abuses it like hell. Anyway we have to admit that they are a good team. 3-0 over Faze, C9 and SK is definitely something in a Major.
2017-07-20 14:24
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MVP Ez for X GOD
2017-07-20 10:19
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#97
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Malaysia phyzell
But Adren is the player of the week. What say you Rating 2.0?
2017-07-20 13:21
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bug abuse
2017-07-20 14:06
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EZ FOR GODZERA
2017-07-20 15:02
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#103
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Greece her-1g
Yeah big abused the bug and they gained a legends spot.
2017-07-20 16:57
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#108
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Ukraine Jehander
Ez Adren MVP
2017-07-20 23:46
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After many years living in denial.... Fallen finally confirms that GODZERA will toggle for the playoffs.
2017-07-21 00:01
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+1 SK ARE BLATANT CHEATERS AND HAVE BEEN FOR 1.5 years
2017-07-21 02:39
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Smart guy, Best IGL, Best awper. Cry is free.
2017-07-21 06:48
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#117
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Spain 1996
sike nibba
2017-07-22 10:22
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