OpTic disqualified from ELEAGUE Premier

22-8-2017 23:18

OpTic Gaming have been disqualified from ELEAGUE Premier as a result of their recent roster changes, the tournament's organisers have revealed.

According to Turner Sports, OpTic's changes are "inconsistent with ELEAGUE’s rules", which state that, "if more than two players on a team's roster change, such team will be removed from the tournament immediately."

OpTic are keeping only Oscar "⁠mixwell⁠" Cañellas and Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic from their previous team. On Monday, it was confirmed that the Spanish player will be joined by Aleksi "⁠allu⁠" Jalli, Adam "⁠friberg⁠" Friberg and Emil "⁠Magisk⁠" Reif in the starting line-up, with the fifth player, presumably Kevin "⁠HS⁠" Tarn, expected to be revealed soon.

mixwell and NAF the only players left of the team that won ELEAGUE S2

Replacing the ELEAGUE Season 2 champions will be a third team coming out of the Americas Open Qualifier, which will be held from August 26-27.

The news comes as yet another blow for OpTic after the team learned that it would be replaced by Cloud9 at DreamHack Masters Malmö, also because of the recent roster changes.

wat, rly?

2017-08-22 23:19

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YASS

2017-08-22 23:18

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Damn, I think it's good that tournament organisers are following their own rules though.

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boooooo

Unexpected

SK were disqualified for changing their org, so nothing new

2017-08-23 06:19

deserved

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2017-08-23 01:43

FeelsBadMan

2017-08-22 23:20

same thing happened to sk when they left lg org

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Stupid rule to be honest.

2017-08-22 23:21

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Kinda happy they stick to their rules though

2017-08-23 00:50

but its rule

2017-08-23 08:36

No shit Sherlock.

2017-08-23 09:15

This is as retarded rule as it can be. SPOT belongs to ORGANIZATION, not players. So if barca releases 10 of their players, team will be forced to play 3rd spanish league all of the sudden? Whoever came with this bullshit is idiot, period. It makes only a tiny bit of sense because of shuffles between 2 teams, but even then.

2017-08-23 12:25

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I assume it is as it is because the for Eleague invites were based on results in the previous Eleague tournament (Eleague S2 I believe). Now that Optic only have 2 players from that roster (One as a substitute) it isn't the same team that won the previous season and therefore shouldn't be automatically invited.

2017-08-23 12:34

A spot shouldn't belong to an organization. It should belong to the players at least the majority of the players. They put in the hard work and effort to make it to and through the tournament not the organization that can just change its roster at any given moment. What happened when the current SK left Luminosity and joined SK I think is crap and that should at least be changed. But as far as the "Spot" belongs to "Organization" and not the people who are actually doing work is complete BS and should never apply anywhere. Look at the majors. If a team doesn't have at least 3 of the members that made it to legends (or if for some reason 3 players are dropped right before the major and they are in challengers) the spot is lost and the team is replaced. In the sense of eLeague major with Fnatic and GODSENT. GODSENT had a legends spot for a short time prior because KrimZ, JW, and Flusha (who all were on Fnatic in DH Cluj and got Legends) went to Godsent. Krimz goes back and fnatic regained their spot as Legends since they had 3 from the prior major (Krimz, Olof, Dennis). The reason why this is the way it is, is so it's completely fair to the players, the people that actually matter in tournaments. You don't want an org to get a position or have a position from the prior tournament (OpTic) and then they suddenly gain a team that is arguably better than their prior team (OpTic) for either malice intent (Wanting to win so they hire a better crew) or for reasons of everyone split up (Optic's case)

2017-09-21 21:11

completely different situation

2017-08-23 04:47

It was exactly the opposite, SK could not participate because of the spot belonging to LG, now the spot belong to optic but they cant play because the roster change. Stupid ELEAGUE.

2017-08-23 18:02

That was expected. You cant believe to keep your spot with only two of the original roster. Thats just not happening

expected

DAMN BOIS tournament organisers not bending the rules, good shit bois

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Even if their rules are stupid.

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this isnt a stupid rule

2017-08-22 23:22

2017-08-22 23:23

How? Optic has lost a majority of its roster. There are rules about this, rightfully so.

So what? You can't hold a spot if you have exactly the same roster but changed org. #35

2017-08-22 23:33

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Thevrules make it so i cant switch orgs and u jave to keep the majority of ur roster

2017-08-22 23:57

That's completely fucking irrelevant to this situation though. If the entire optic roster moved to another org, then maybe you have something to argue about. But they didn't, so you don't

2017-08-23 04:49

New org, same lineup => disqualification. Different lineup, same org => disqualification. Sorry, but it's stupid.

2017-08-23 09:19

No, you are stupid. If one team qualified for a major, and then they bought in 5 new players to actually play the major there would be fucking uproar. Stop being so autistic, it's completely valid in this case to disqualify optic, if you think otherwise you are, by definition a fucking idiot.

2017-08-23 11:39

1. It's not Major. 2. New org, same lineup => disqualification.

2017-08-23 11:42

The rule is not stupid

2017-08-22 23:51

and fkin esl make bad shiet bois!

2017-08-23 08:42

Noo

got fucked twice

fak

lul

Lmao

haHA

damn rip

Did people really not see this coming?

like Luminosity-SK

It's completely different. LG had played the group stage and got disqualified from the playoffs. Now, the tournament haven't even started yet!

2017-08-23 00:03

Probably because they got spot in groop, but yeah, it`s stupid anyway

2017-08-23 00:07

That's really racist to immigrants. Trump's politics spread into esports which is a shame. I think that's really disrespectful from E-League and I will not watch this season for sure.

EZ 4 Misfits

i thought the org had the spot in eleague not the players???????????? isnt that why lg got dq when they went to sk???

Probably changed the rules so that theyre in line with the other tournament rules. Because otherwise teams would change the fuck out of their rosters

It's the same rule, just a different situation. In that situation, the 5 players changed orgs and so neither org was allowed to participate because their submitted rosters changed more than two players (all 5 players) after the cutoff date. The same thing here: more than two players changed after the cutoff for roster submissions, so the roster is ineligible for the tournament.

2017-08-22 23:32

The league AND the players own the spot. It forces them to cooperate or both of them are disqualified.

2017-08-22 23:55

Its both u need to keep the same org and the majority of players

I bet my legt testicle that OpTic will bet that third team from quals

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I dont think they cab compete in the qualifier but i could be wrong

2017-08-23 00:04

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Sure they can

They might have a rule against it. For some reason i remember them having a rupe like that

2017-08-23 00:09

Problem is theyre going to be an EU team, so you would think they have to play in the EU quals

2017-08-23 02:03

There is no rule by ELEAGUE that EU players can play only EU quals. It's possible that they will make that rule, but I doubt about it.

2017-08-23 02:08

Well isnt M1x already back in Europe?

2017-08-23 02:16

It seems like all players moved to US since they play NA EPL

2017-08-23 02:21

Friberg. Magisk. Allu are stil in eu untill nxt week

2017-08-23 16:27

Astralis and SK in the Group.. who ever replaces them is fucked anyway lul

Oh come on that sucks

lol

Or just give them a chance to qualify again ? stupids

This is a bit stupid in sense that it was more like OpTic just lost those players to other orgs.

How does that change the situation. If u lose the majority of ur team then u lose the spot. Thats the rule

2017-08-23 00:06

optics org does not like that

2017-08-23 00:19

In that sense that the players don't own the spot either, as SK was disqualified last time. So basically it has to be the same org with the same 3/5 players, or you are out. Which is stupid. At least in major, the players keep the spot.

2017-08-23 00:22

Can't they just use Hazed as a stand in for the event?

no hazed is the best igl in the world and he doesnt want to play with people not on his level

2017-08-23 00:18

hazed is standing in for clg rn idk for how long

2017-08-23 06:24

OpTic wins, they were most likely not even gonna make playoffs quarters at this stage and this will only accelerate their moveout to Europe.

Well they where in death group anyway not big a lose.

2017-08-22 23:24

WTF

2017-08-22 23:25

Ahahaha, take that, lol. No green wall BS to annoy us for a while. xD I think the can qualify?

2017-08-22 23:26

2017-08-23 00:17

okay, then optic just can qualify through the qualifier again? should be ez if they are allowed

Dont think they can compete in qualifier but i could be wrong

Just like LG>SK.

2017-08-22 23:27

OpTic shouldn't do that changes I think... first DreamHack, then ELEAGUE Premier

2017-08-22 23:29

"xD"

2017-08-22 23:30

They were in SK and Astralis group so they were going to lose anyways...

Just like LG

Gonna be a heck of a team now, though. NAF and Mixwell are solid players. Add in Magisk and Allu? Solid. And Friberg as a fifth... overall, better than NiP, anyway. Definitely top 10, perhaps top 5 eventually.

lmao what

2017-08-22 23:35

Srly?

2017-08-22 23:36

even if its transfer season and the tournament hasnt even started? also liquid placed 2nd in the malmo qualifier final, so it makes sense to invite cloud9? beyond retarded

2017-08-22 23:37

OpTic miss 1 player in their team, anyway full team has been changed... it is banned if they want to take part in events

i guess your right it makes sense , im just mad at the moment about cloud9 getting the invite for the masters event, even though Liquid made the final of the qualifier and cloud9 didnt :/

there are a lot team better than C9, I think the worst decision at setting this team to tournament

Soo when is their first lan event?

unlucky next time

2017-08-23 00:05

hahaha and they still will play in na xD

2017-08-23 00:10

it's ok to respect your own rules but now another tier 5 NA team will play. dude NA cs would be even worse if it wasn't for 2 brazilian teams. what a joke this scene is :D

NA just likes to throw but only ibp were caught

2017-08-23 00:16

How is it fair that Optic LOSE three players so they obviously *have* to replace them, and they get dq'd from a tournament for just keeping a 5-player team? Lmao.

2017-08-23 00:21

Kind of unfair if you ask me

2017-08-23 00:23

New SK? Lol, people saying this is unfair we already know the rules from when SK got the boot, at least they aren't wasting Optic's time and kicking them now, SK was already top 8 qualified for LAN finals when they got removed from ELeague.

2017-08-23 00:27

it was retarded when it happened to sk, it remains retarded now. But at least they follow their shit rules

2017-08-23 00:44

ELEAGUE rule is not retard. It's in place to protect their product. Dreamhack, on the other hand... Dunno what the situation was there. If they were in from qualifier, makes sense to require same players.

2017-08-23 06:06

Sad but rules are rules.

2017-08-23 01:15

immortals or gambit deserves more than c9 this spot!

2017-08-23 01:25

Shouldn't Faze also be getting kicked out of these things. they replaced 3 members aswell.

2017-08-23 01:36

2ez4NA

2017-08-23 03:09

well no shit

2017-08-23 03:15

im waiting optic debuts that'll be nice mybe xD

2017-08-23 04:24

Daaaaamn :( I wanna see OpTic on LAN

2017-08-23 04:33

Guess Optic did not see that one coming....

2017-08-23 04:34

that 2nd paragraph.. wat? they keep (1)mixwell+(2)NAF from the previous team, (3)allu + (4)friberg + (5)magisk will join as new players. HS will be revealed as the 5th player soon... ???

2017-08-23 04:54