NAF completes Liquid move

5-2-2018 23:12

Liquid have completed the signing of Keith "NAF" Markovic from Renegades, both organisations have announced.

The Canadian player will be stepping into the shoes of Josh "⁠jdm64⁠" Marzano, who had been part of the team since June 2016, when he was signed from CLG as part of a trade deal that saw Kenneth "⁠koosta⁠" Suen move in the opposite direction.

Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic is no stranger to Liquid, whom he briefly represented in early 2015 before being replaced by Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski. He went on to play for teams like Luminosity and Conquest before signing for OpTic, with whom he would win ELEAGUE Season 2.

NAF is Liquid's newest player

In September, he signed for Renegades for an undisclosed fee, and he produced some of his best Counter-Strike with the Australian team, averaging a 1.27 Rating on LAN. While playing under Renegades' banner, the team most notably won the StarLadder i-League Invitational #2, in Shanghai, after beating Virtus.pro in the final.

This is the second roster change for Liquid in just a few months, after replacing Peter "⁠stanislaw⁠" Jarguz with Lucas "⁠steel⁠" Lopes in November. Due to the roster rules, the former Immortals member could not play at ELEAGUE Major Boston, where the North American team were sent packing in the New Legends Stage with a 1-3 record, with coach Wilton "⁠zews⁠" Prado acting as a substitute.

Liquid's squad currently looks as follows:

Nick "⁠nitr0⁠" Cannella
Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski
Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken
Lucas "⁠steel⁠" Lopes
Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic

Wilton "⁠zews⁠" Prado (coach)

no more \_ounging :(

2018-02-05 23:12

4 replies

Dekay sources are op af, no matter how unexpected the roster moves are

2018-02-05 23:13

1 reply

so, when vp?

2018-02-05 23:14

finally

2018-02-06 00:20

++++ sad:(

2018-02-06 05:32

2018-02-05 23:12

17 replies

Nuuuuuu. Rip nafty. Rip renegades. I wonder if rng will finally pick up another aussie

2018-02-05 23:17

16 replies

+gratis/jam

2018-02-05 23:55

10 replies

Why would they get gratis if they have nifty who is just better?

2018-02-05 23:59

3 replies

For the full aussie roster :D

2018-02-06 00:01

2 replies

Grat is from NZ :/ All OCE AWPers are from NZ other then Yam and Myself the best AWPer in AU ;)

2018-02-06 00:27

1 reply

Can't wait for RNG | Brap stickers then ;)

2018-02-06 05:15

Liazz or sico would be better imho

2018-02-06 00:00

1 reply

Don't cut the Order squad, they will be lit in 2018

2018-02-06 00:02

Yam will never play again for rng

2018-02-06 01:06

3 replies

is it because he doesn't want to move to the us? +havoc pls

2018-02-06 17:47

2 replies

THE BEARD

2018-02-06 21:56

Nah they had like difficulties between the players and he ended leaving the squad and pro cs for a while until tm picked him up

2018-02-07 01:09

Honestly thought Nifty would be a better pick up awper for liquid. Imagine what he could do if he didn't have to igl...

2018-02-06 00:38

3 replies

would nifty leave RNG thou he is pretty loyal

2018-02-06 00:45

2 replies

I also thought steel would be the igl... what is going on

2018-02-06 00:45

1 reply

He is personally not confident in his English to make on the spot calls mid round. But he stated he will definitely help nitr0 in developing his IGL role.

2018-02-06 15:18

get liazz/bntet and you are good

2018-02-06 04:59

- steel + nifty top1 NA and top5 world

2018-02-05 23:13

20 replies

2018-02-05 23:13

try harder

2018-02-05 23:15

Top 2 NA if you count SK as an NA team

2018-02-05 23:15

11 replies

yeah forgot than one

2018-02-05 23:17

SK can never be considered an NA team — at best, they can be said to be from the Americas.

2018-02-05 23:18

1 reply

They play with north americans

2018-02-05 23:45

SK can never be considered an NA team — at best, they can be said to be from the Americas.

2018-02-05 23:18

“If you’ve count SK as a NA team” OMEGALUL

2018-02-05 23:29

why would you do that? fnatic would be the 2nd best french team if they were considered french. Retarded logic isn't it?

2018-02-06 01:39

5 replies

Jaboody baits

2018-02-06 03:21

4 replies

jaboody retarded in brain

2018-02-06 08:28

3 replies

Said Brazil

2018-02-06 12:47

2 replies

said usa wtf

2018-02-06 13:25

1 reply

Brasill

2018-02-06 13:42

Torqued is fine smh

2018-02-05 23:21

4 replies

GX > Torqued. ez for Brax the best player in the world

2018-02-05 23:21

3 replies

Torqued is form GX now

2018-02-05 23:30

Did you just go full retard or did you forget the /s?

2018-02-05 23:37

1 reply

Never go full retard!

2018-02-06 00:26

2018-02-06 07:49

damn

2018-02-05 23:12

expected

2018-02-05 23:13

Why

2018-02-05 23:13

good I was mad NA teams were ignoring him in the past big shuffle, he is one of the biggest NA young talents. Only 20 years old.

2018-02-05 23:13

32 replies

Too bad he has the emotional capacity of a 13 y/o girl.

2018-02-05 23:14

23 replies

what?

2018-02-05 23:15

18 replies

Does he do the tilt?

2018-02-05 23:16

1 reply

ask the guy above

2018-02-05 23:16

NA pros say hes has emotional issues and overall is a shit teammate. He's a good player though.

2018-02-05 23:16

15 replies

source? your ass.

2018-02-05 23:16

14 replies

I mean i dont have a source for you but its a known issue. There's other threads talking about it hltv.org/forums/threads/1553128/naf

2018-02-05 23:18

8 replies

so BS no source, you might as well link me to midget porn instead of a shit HLTV thread

2018-02-05 23:21

5 replies

OpTic vs Tempo storm, Optic were arguing in voice chat mid game.

2018-02-05 23:29

3 replies

+1 i remember this game NAF was blaming RUSH i think

2018-02-06 00:23

I think it was Immortals already, no? Anyways, this what i remember too, toxic as fuck. But Optic atmosphere was somewhat toxic too. Stanislaw, tarik and rush don't seem like calm guys overall. And maybe he will cool down with Liquid, since they are calmer guys, and Zews is really good for the team mood.

2018-02-06 01:21

1 reply

It was defo tempo storm and +1

2018-02-06 17:09

Not BS, this thing with NAF is well known.

2018-02-07 23:26

lol i think hltv users opinions dont justify the fact man..if a player is streaming talking about him being that way that could be true..but this thread?nah i dont buy it..

2018-02-05 23:25

I’ve seen clips of him raging at teammates.

2018-02-05 23:30

You can just look at him when he isnt currently winning. He looks depressed and tilted always

2018-02-05 23:20

oddshot.tv/s/7QSsaT

2018-02-06 00:00

1 reply

LMAO, that's depressing. Even at this level...

2018-02-06 18:05

youtube.com/watch?v=vpgEh5QL-rU

2018-02-06 05:00

1 reply

2018-02-06 18:06

I know what that means, but has he done lmao?

2018-02-05 23:18

3 replies

I remember some of the optic guys saying as much when he played with them.

2018-02-05 23:19

2 replies

maybe he has period, yes?

2018-02-05 23:19

1 reply

Hahah yeah that could explain it

2018-02-05 23:20

NAF has been a top five player in NA for a while now, and nobody recognized it. Even when OpTic were struggling, he was putting in some big numbers. He has been doing it since he was carrying the original LG roster.

2018-02-05 23:21

7 replies

finally he gets noticed, it was dumb for such a young NA talent to rot away, NA has some common sense finally

2018-02-05 23:22

5 replies

Once people in a scene label you as something, it's hard to brush it off. NAF always had that stigma holding him back. All it took was him to carry AUCS to brush it off.

2018-02-05 23:24

4 replies

more like Liquid were sucking ass for too long and stopped being retarded

2018-02-05 23:34

He carried sure, but our guys stepped up alongside him as well.

2018-02-06 00:13

2 replies

No, AZR and jks completely lost it

2018-02-06 00:50

1 reply

Jks was probably better than NAF considering the roles, Jks was a support and always ended with 2nd best ratings

2018-02-06 02:34

Part of it was that at one point he was considered online, since his online results were crazy but his LAN showings weren't that great. This is a hold over from CSS, when he was also quite a bit younger.

2018-02-06 01:59

Who is removed?

2018-02-05 23:13

9 replies

jdm

2018-02-05 23:14

8 replies

Who will be AWPing?

2018-02-05 23:16

7 replies

I guess nitr0 might be. or NAF because he used to awp before

2018-02-05 23:17

steel

2018-02-05 23:17

Probably Nitro and NAF will use the AWP depending on the situation. Both are good with it. Most tier 1 pros can AWP good enough where you'll start to see teams relying less on dedicated awpers.

2018-02-05 23:19

1 reply

It's the same as to make NiKo a primary AWPer - ofc he will get many kills but he's still much more efficient as a rifler than picks an AWP only for 2-AWP setups. IOW I doubt it will work out on the highest level.

2018-02-05 23:29

Probs nitro ct and naf t cause nitro god teir entrying..

2018-02-05 23:23

I played a pug with steel the other day, he said that he was going to pick up the AWP. I can find the timestamp in the VOD if you want.

2018-02-07 04:01

1 reply

steel? The guy that has less than 2% of kills made with an AWP?

2018-02-07 11:59

gl miss u _/dm :(

2018-02-05 23:13

stupid change by Liquid

2018-02-05 23:13

13 replies

a better rifler > sixer level awper tbh

2018-02-05 23:14

12 replies

Lol jdm is not as bad as sixer, no one is as bad as sixer

2018-02-05 23:15

5 replies

true but jdm missing basic shots dropped off like hiko off of de_vertigo

2018-02-05 23:17

2 replies

wow dude don't diss my boy hiko he will be back

2018-02-05 23:19

I think he'll come back stronger tho

2018-02-05 23:21

Sixer is one of the worst awper to ever touch CSGO

2018-02-05 23:17

Sixer just isn't a primary AWPer. When he was secondary to KennyS, he played that role well. Unfortunately, there aren't many other French snipers at the moment...

2018-02-06 00:15

+1, jdm is obv not quite as awful as sixer, but he has been pretty shit consistently for a very long time. tbh i dont think he played a month in liquid where he was as good as he was sometimes in CLG.

2018-02-05 23:24

5 replies

he had a pretty decent run in the mlg columbus timeframe

2018-02-05 23:44

4 replies

nothing id recall as outstanding. in any case, thats a year ago.

2018-02-05 23:45

3 replies

basically sad to see him drop off so much though

2018-02-05 23:46

2 replies

primary awping has been dead for years in cs (unless u have guardian/kenny/fallen///oskar maybe), so im neither surprised nor sad about this.

2018-02-05 23:48

1 reply

i mean about his inability to hit master guardian level basic awp picks

2018-02-05 23:48

ezzzz

2018-02-05 23:13

expected

2018-02-05 23:13

Was gonna say first :o

2018-02-05 23:13

-jdm

2018-02-05 23:13

n i c e

2018-02-05 23:13

Has to be jdm

2018-02-05 23:13

nice

2018-02-05 23:13

BYE BOTDM

2018-02-05 23:14

what

2018-02-05 23:14

OOF

2018-02-05 23:14

GGGG

2018-02-05 23:14

Wtf.. Okey but why

2018-02-05 23:14

YES HAHAHAHAHAHA

2018-02-05 23:14

rip

2018-02-05 23:14

good riddance jdm

2018-02-05 23:14

Rip NAFty :(

2018-02-05 23:14

2 replies

NAFty was such a powerful duo. I wonder who we'll get to replace him.

2018-02-06 00:27

1 reply

BnTeT

2018-02-06 02:34

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT OHHHH YEAH BOYS

2018-02-05 23:14

nice

2018-02-05 23:14

rip jdm

2018-02-05 23:14

Oh, no. I love NAF

2018-02-05 23:14

6 replies

Doesn't seem like you're happy for seeing your beloved player move to a much better squad. Even more now without JDM in the team. Can't tell how well nitr0 will do with the awp but can see this Liquid give Cloud9 a bit of a fight in the NA region again.

2018-02-05 23:47

5 replies

Steel is going to be awping, not nitr0.

2018-02-07 04:01

3 replies

Seems like someone didn't watch the video.

2018-02-07 04:11

2 replies

clips.twitch.tv/RamshackleSuccessfulReub.. This is more relevant since it was literally yesterday Don't mind the guy calling me retarded he was just mad i dropped 37 kills on him

2018-02-07 07:40

1 reply

Oh sick that you play on this level bro. Keep up! Nonetheless he might've trolled. Steel was never an awper before and he's been in teams with 2 or even 3 awpers/secondary awpers and never was one of them. In the video the awpers are NAF, Nitr0 and Twistzz, I really doubt steel embraces the awp to be honest.

2018-02-07 11:47

I don't mean to be so negative. I don't like Liquid because I think they are overconfident and very rarely show results (in part because of that arrogance). However, I hope it goes very well for him and they all prove me wrong.

2018-02-08 23:10

Jdm will probably not get on a tier 1 team again

2018-02-05 23:14

24 replies

like he ever was xD

2018-02-05 23:15

23 replies

if u dont think liquid was a t1 team ure retarded

2018-02-05 23:15

22 replies

not get on a tier 1 team "AGAIN" dont call me retard pls tell me when he ever was tier1 level?

2018-02-05 23:17

21 replies

when he played in Liquid??? actually retarded

2018-02-05 23:18

20 replies

rofl liquid tier 1? since when? thell me when liquid was tier 1 level?

2018-02-05 23:19

19 replies

Has Liquid being in a major grand final not made them play on a tier 1 level? They have been consitently within top 20 the whole past year, even being top 7 at one point. So you tell me, if that isn't tier 1, then wtf is CIS SMH

2018-02-05 23:22

17 replies

tier 1. contender for titles all time, globally. gambit was major final. this didint make them tier 1. they won some smaller events but they wasnt tier 1. liquid makes mostly in international events cuz na qualifiers. qualifiers have usually 2 spots and c9/imt/liquid always fight for them(sk direct invite). u are retarded if u think liquid really is tier1 and better than all those tier2 eu/cis teams who dont get spots in bigger events cuz not inviting and qualifying cuz only 2 spots. harder for them get higher in ranking when cant get in big events. na teams rankings get boosted hard and liquid top ten dont matter for shit cuz if they played full time in eu and eu qualifiers they would rarely make in big events

2018-02-05 23:27

14 replies

Listen CIS dumbass, ESL NEW YORK 2017: LIQUID BEATS SK IN A BO3 ASTRALIS IN A BO3 VP IN A BO3 ESG MYKONOS 2017: LIQUID 2-0'S SK These are the top teams of the world that Liquid competed and occassionally beat in BO3's. You really are retarded aren't you? End of discussion

2018-02-05 23:31

8 replies

"occassionally beat" yeah there u go. beating top team occasionally dont make ur tier 1. anyone can win vp that time and beating sk and astralis makes u tier 1 ok..... not worth arguing with liquid fanboys

2018-02-05 23:33

7 replies

Liquid were literally in multiple grand finals, where other top contenders would've been if they weren't beaten. My examples were just some of the times they beat top teams. The fact that they are COMPETING with the top 5 teams with results, simply means they're tier 1 in my books.

2018-02-05 23:36

6 replies

nice books u got then rofl.. kk wont use more time in you then

2018-02-05 23:37

5 replies

"nice books" i've got? Alright you're just making a fool out of yourself. Its a fking saying. I would stop spending time on this discussion too if I were you

2018-02-05 23:39

4 replies

yes i insulted ur book where it says liquid was/is tier 1 and u totally ignored part where i talked about na qualifiers and if they battled with eu/cis tier2 cs for big events and boost of attending those events in rankings. but whatever have good day man

2018-02-05 23:41

3 replies

And here you are again, ahaha stop already

2018-02-05 23:42

2 replies

cuz ur shit logic baits me. whatever diehard mr 0 argument skill liquid fan

2018-02-05 23:48

1 reply

How does having knowledge about the scene and using HLTV to look at the team's history build up to me even being a liquid fan? I can tell you right here, that I aren't a liquid fan and have never been. Again, in MY opinion Liquid is/was a Tier 1 team, and just because some random CIS ignorant person tells me they aren't because he doesn't think so, isn't going to change my opinion.

2018-02-05 23:50

tiers are a matter of opinion there no actual fucking ranking so stop going full tilt mode because you hate liquid or such.

2018-02-05 23:32

4 replies

there is no world where u can call liquid tier 1 team. no one would have so deluded opinion

2018-02-05 23:34

2 replies

They are the first na team to challenge EU teams in bo3 its not like they are tier 2.

2018-02-06 00:03

1 reply

they did it. i dont mean belittle them but cuz they qualify from paraolympics basketball to play vs olympic basketball they are tier 1?

2018-02-06 00:05

exactly, apparently no team can be tier 1 without his approval lmao

2018-02-05 23:37

Honestly my old metric for t1 was any team better than north w/ k0nfig I would agree that liquid is t1 with twistzz

2018-02-05 23:34

1 reply

That's another way to put it haha

2018-02-05 23:37

liquid was t1

2018-02-06 00:16

GOD NAF, RIP 1 HALF OF RNG'S CARRY

2018-02-05 23:14

nice

2018-02-05 23:14

RIP JOSH D M 6 4

2018-02-05 23:14

Holy shit this should be good [*] jdm [*]

2018-02-05 23:14

expected

2018-02-05 23:15

nice naf, jdm goodbye

2018-02-05 23:15

What a lineup.

2018-02-05 23:15

-naf +nifty and ez top 3 hltv

2018-02-05 23:15

jdm810

2018-02-05 23:15

Replacing who ? All players on liquid are playing very well right now steel hasn't really gotten a change to proof him. Elige and twistz are best na players and nitro has been playing godlike lately. I guess he could replace jdm the weakest link but then who's gonne awp ? I don't think naf's really a main awper

2018-02-05 23:15

7 replies

JDM. Naf can awp :)

2018-02-05 23:16

6 replies

But why bring in naf to awp when you could've brought in nifty ?

2018-02-05 23:17

5 replies

Maybe because he wasn`t willing to change?

2018-02-05 23:20

Nifty doesn’t want to leave renegades

2018-02-05 23:22

check NAF awp plays he is pretty good. I could also see him sharing it with Twistzz because Twistzz is a good AWPer (he is secondary). I would rather not see too much sharing because Twistzz is a beast with rifles

2018-02-05 23:22

2 replies

Low key everyone on liquid except steel has had some good plays with the awp in the past

2018-02-05 23:38

1 reply

yesyes > nitro specially

2018-02-06 23:19

Jdm’s options are wide. He could go to NRG, Rogue, or Ghost. He may not have been T1 good, but he’s at least NA T2 good.

2018-02-05 23:15

1 reply

Europe T3 LUL. Yes but GL to him!

2018-02-05 23:17

Wonder who will replace him on Renegades.

2018-02-05 23:15

5 replies

prolly JDM64 for that nice ass salt in the wound

2018-02-05 23:16

2 replies

I doubt it as they already have a fairly solid AWPer.

2018-02-05 23:17

1 reply

just joking... maybe +n0thing/shroud for the meme?

2018-02-05 23:23

I'd love to see them import another ANZ player but it'll probably be some T3 NA rifler.

2018-02-06 00:29

BnTeT

2018-02-06 02:19

Happy 4 NAF

2018-02-05 23:15

Expected

2018-02-05 23:16

Perfect fit. Bad player to bad team.

2018-02-05 23:16

2 replies

im a liquid fan I bait with my FaZe thing so don't even think about it anyway: >Flag El Salvador, Heart kNgV- > Calling a team bad when you have no scene Pick one.

2018-02-05 23:20

Calling a team bad when you have no scene Shut the fuck up El Salvador

2018-02-06 09:27

-steel I assume, he is so bad. Also -jdm, but get an other awper then!

2018-02-05 23:16

YASSSS

2018-02-05 23:16

POGGERS LETS GO NAF GL BOY

2018-02-05 23:16

-jdm?

2018-02-05 23:16

-steel +nifty and they can start fighting for top 5 world

2018-02-05 23:17

poor jdm, so sad for him. O like him, he is a good person.. wish him the best on his future

2018-02-05 23:17

11 replies

Ikr, but NAF needs a better team.

2018-02-05 23:19

With that USA flag bandana and typical douchebag frat boy look you have to dislike jdm.

2018-02-05 23:25

9 replies

Mad virgin nerd got picked on lol

2018-02-06 09:28

8 replies

Are you? Did you? I’m sorry if your school time was hard. But it doesn’t get better by acting cool on the internet, it’s actually just pathetic.

2018-02-06 12:51

7 replies

cry more loser

2018-02-07 08:10

6 replies

Trying to play cool will not heal you. Just accept that you got bullied and move on.

2018-02-07 20:56

5 replies

Literally the worst comeback I've ever seen. No wonder you got picked on

2018-02-07 23:12

4 replies

After you went with “cry more loser” that battle was over. Can’t sink any lower than that and wouldn't want to either. How about doing something with your life rather than attempting cyber bullying on hltv? Guess acting cool behind the screen is as good as life gets for you. Pathetic really.

2018-02-08 10:09

3 replies

Cry more tbh

2018-02-08 21:49

2 replies

I’m sorry, I should have realized that you wouldn’t be able to understand any sentence longer than three words. I will not make the same mistake again. And the one crying here is clearly you.

2018-02-08 22:27

1 reply

Keep responding Keep crying

2018-02-09 10:49

Rip

2018-02-05 23:17

Yeah boiiii

2018-02-05 23:17

Will miss you Mr LOUNGEZANO

2018-02-05 23:17

Why dont pick nifty? Wtf

2018-02-05 23:17

I'm pretty sad about jdm, I like him,.

2018-02-05 23:18

oh no :(

2018-02-05 23:18

About time for NAF, he has been held back by Renegades.

2018-02-05 23:18

i guess jdm will finaly become a doctor like he always wanted

2018-02-05 23:18

1 reply

back doctor lul

2018-02-05 23:24

Coolest awper jdm64 will miss you!!! Hope you the best :D

2018-02-05 23:20

beast

2018-02-05 23:20

wtf

2018-02-05 23:21

Liquid won't play better, I mean NAF is not that player who will make huge impact

2018-02-05 23:23

1 reply

nt Danylo

2018-02-05 23:30

1.So who left when +Naf 2.Why not +Nifty - Jdm

2018-02-05 23:24

9 replies

Might be the next move since steel hasn't really worked out that great.

2018-02-06 00:32

3 replies

What's up with steel? They've barely played with him yet I'm hearing that he isn't working out? Is it internal stuff or just under performance?

2018-02-06 06:21

2 replies

Comparing his playstyle from Immortals -> Liquid, he hasn't really done anything worth mentioning, which is a pretty big step down from what he achieved with the Immortals line up. Didn't live up to the hype kind of thing.

2018-02-06 06:28

1 reply

Oh alright I gotcha. I'm curious to see how they'll do this next month. But I do think the move was probably a little over hyped. We'll see though, they've barely played with him on LAN right now. So think it's hard to give a super fair judgment.

2018-02-06 06:37

I feel like nifty is really committed to renegades, he seems to be totally invested in the core. Naf always looked like he didnt want to be there

2018-02-06 00:41

4 replies

he always looks like that though lul

2018-02-06 01:29

Once he didn't want to move into the gaming house that's when I had doubts about NAF's commitment.

2018-02-06 03:11

2 replies

There was always a part of me that knew it would happen, I just wondered how long it would be. Really interested to hear of Renegades new fifth

2018-02-06 11:35

1 reply

Yeah cannot wait, they’re are some decent free agents (*cough* SPUNJ *cough*) going around so I’m excited to see who comes in.

2018-02-06 13:15

rip

2018-02-05 23:25

:((( the boys

2018-02-05 23:25

SAVED FROM RENEGADES

2018-02-05 23:25

Liquid improved, got rid of snake, got the nicest guy in the scene, and replaced with inconsistent jdm with god naf

2018-02-05 23:26

3 replies

"...got rid of snake..."?

2018-02-05 23:31

2 replies

stanislaw- backstabbed OpTic to go to liquid.

2018-02-05 23:34

1 reply

Thanks, now i got it.

2018-02-05 23:35

now -steel +dennis / k0nfig

2018-02-05 23:27

wow this is so bad liquid was great with jdm

2018-02-05 23:30

love you josh-keep lounging hope some team picks you up!

2018-02-05 23:30

JDM RIP

2018-02-05 23:30

expected

2018-02-05 23:32

rng bntet confirmed

2018-02-05 23:32

rip \__

2018-02-05 23:34

why not get Nifty instead of Naf?

2018-02-05 23:34

4 replies

2018-02-05 23:36

idk maybe they wanted some hybrid i heard naf is good with awp and rifle

2018-02-05 23:37

2 replies

Nifty is good with awp. Naf is just okay with it, they needed an awper and Nifty was better and has more potential imo

2018-02-05 23:38

1 reply

I think nifty wants to stay in renegades

2018-02-06 17:54

Ez Liquid Top3

2018-02-05 23:36

H Y P E

2018-02-05 23:36

Wtf i like liquid now

2018-02-05 23:36

Bye, bye botDM

2018-02-05 23:37

Finally NAF goes to a tier 1 NA Team hope he replaces JDM because his shots are really bad these days

2018-02-05 23:38

sick move, rip jdm you had a lot of chance to shine.

2018-02-05 23:38

NAF saved my scene

2018-02-05 23:41

1 reply

*NAFty

2018-02-06 00:34

nice

2018-02-05 23:41

Finally -jdm. But I'd rather +Nifty for awping duties. Who will be main AWPer in this line-up? NAF himself?

2018-02-05 23:44

jdm :/

2018-02-05 23:46

Liquid top 8

2018-02-05 23:47

So happy for naf <3

2018-02-05 23:49

thanks gode, fell happy liquid

2018-02-05 23:49

this team got 3 times better

2018-02-05 23:50

-steel +nifty = t1 team

2018-02-05 23:50

4 replies

2018-02-05 23:57

stupid move, steel is igl. And that would just be downgrade

2018-02-06 00:14

2 replies

Nice try, but I'm pretty sure Nifty is also igl + AWPer. Fills the leftover role perfectly.

2018-02-06 00:34

1 reply

nifty igl kappa

2018-02-06 01:53

I like this move. I hope for the best for Jdm as well.

2018-02-05 23:54

Liquid is as much of an american team as they are now Canadian as well. Full NA + BR power 2 BRS 2 Canadians 2 Americans. Together we shall crush the Europeans

2018-02-05 23:55

1 reply

sounds good

2018-02-06 00:21

2 americans, 2 canadians, 2 brazilians lol

2018-02-05 23:56

don't get it, he awped just fine lol

2018-02-05 23:57

who is awp now?

2018-02-05 23:58

I cant help but feel like this will fuck everything up. Nitr0 should not be in game leading anymore, and they had better use NAF effectively. This team seems to lack direction right now, partly because they havent played as a full squad for months but also because I cant make sense of most of these roster moves Also renegades is fucked. Are they getting rickeh back?

2018-02-06 00:00

7 replies

Probably getting BnTeT

2018-02-06 02:20

6 replies

I hope not. BnTeTs form has dropped off recently compared to 6 months ago

2018-02-06 02:51

5 replies

Hardly but can you blame him? He is IGL of a team he can't even speak to? And Bondik took some stats away from him + He still has 1.20 rating in the past 3 months? You can't say he has dropped off ...

2018-02-06 02:52

4 replies

hmm you have good points. i just havent noticed him as much as i did 6 months ago. probably my ignorance.

2018-02-06 06:28

3 replies

Tyloo haven't played many events tbh and that's another reason why BnTeT need's a new team

2018-02-06 06:29

2 replies

as long as he speaks fluent english and theres no communication problems i suppose he would be a good fit. still sad to see naf leave because he was such a good player. just after renegades qualified for tournaments overseas too..

2018-02-06 06:31

1 reply

Good enough for call outs that's for sure, Yeah Renegades were doing really well, 1 bad event (the major) and he leaves ... Sad

2018-02-06 06:34

Liquid best NA team in 2018 ez

2018-02-06 00:02

-steel -twistzz +chelo +yel then you got a tier 1 NA/SA team

2018-02-06 00:05

2 replies

Liquid is already tier 1 team

2018-02-06 03:08

You are delusional if you think chelo or yel are better than Twistzz

2018-02-06 16:37

Wtf

2018-02-06 00:06

Renegades need to disband

2018-02-06 00:07

-skadoodle +jdm to c9 confirmed

2018-02-06 00:07

amazing player, amazing pick

2018-02-06 00:07

JDM BibleThump

2018-02-06 00:08

WHO DAFUCK IS GONNA AWP?»

2018-02-06 00:10

3 replies

Watch the video

2018-02-06 00:13

2 replies

Nitro was carrying that team so hard and he now has to be the primary awper lmao

2018-02-06 00:15

1 reply

Also why tf is Nitr0 the igl instead of steel?

2018-02-06 00:50

i like jdm but that move was very needed

2018-02-06 00:12

thank god no more bot _/dm

2018-02-06 00:13

i really like jdm :( i know he can do better! hes just in slump :/ rip jdm, i will miss u in liquiud. Btw naf is good update. But who will awp? nitro?

2018-02-06 00:13

2 replies

Yes. Nitro is primary awper now (as well as IGL), with Twistzz and Nap being backup awpers.

2018-02-06 00:32

1 reply

steel should be the igl...

2018-02-06 00:50

Rip ;(

2018-02-06 00:15

rip jdm

2018-02-06 00:27

i like jdm but this only can motivate him to work on his shots from now on, he was under form for so long, just couldnt connect his shots. hope he can bounce back. and yeah naf >>> snakeislaw

2018-02-06 00:28

I was don't know this deatils

2018-02-06 00:29

what a bad move jdm :(

2018-02-06 00:32

2 replies

Smart move

2018-02-06 00:36

1 reply

we ll see brother

2018-02-06 00:40

:(((( no the bois

2018-02-06 00:33

stanis to renegades and to igl, nifty primary awp???? PLES

2018-02-06 00:33

1 reply

-stanislaw +spunj

2018-02-06 17:57

Sorry to see JDM go. I really like him, no matter what team he plays on. I do think that overall the kills will edge up on the team because NAF is definitely an impact player, but I think this is a bit of a risky move. I understand the criticism JDM has had when it comes to rifles, but he could be quite good on that AWP. I guess we'll see how this works out. It could go either way. Team comms will have to look crisp and clean but there is the potential. On paper the pieces are really good. In this respect, on paper NAF was a good pickup. I'm hopeful. I want to see Liquid and JDM do well, so hopefully he lands on a good team and has more opportunities at large LAN's.

2018-02-06 00:35

1 reply

Nobody wants him,

2018-02-06 00:43

Gj Liquid

2018-02-06 00:36

Who's Liquid's awper now?

2018-02-06 00:37

1 reply

Probably Nitro...

2018-02-06 00:50

Congrats NAF! I hope jdm finds a new team though.

2018-02-06 00:38

jdm was so not the problem. it was stan who should've been replaced by naf

2018-02-06 00:39

9 replies

Nope, jdm was also a problem. Now I’m worried about steel, we know he’s not much of a fragger

2018-02-06 00:42

8 replies

if liquid dont get results in the next couple months. -steel +nifty. liquid need both nifty to AWP and 2ndry IGL. it doesnt hurt to have more IGLs

2018-02-06 00:43

7 replies

Still don’t know why they signed steel ffs

2018-02-06 00:48

5 replies

I thought they signed him as an igl... I guess not

2018-02-06 00:52

4 replies

Come on man, let’s rush b man. Maybe he could be a support player and things will work

2018-02-06 00:55

3 replies

But he was the igl for immortals in their 2nd place major run

2018-02-06 01:00

2 replies

I think it was just a fluke, it was just kng and hen1 going off with their awps

2018-02-06 01:08

uh no, boltz was

2018-02-06 06:54

That could be top 5 ez

2018-02-06 00:51

NTC

2018-02-06 00:41

stupid move.... -jdm omg -steel -zews +naf +jdm

2018-02-06 00:43

1 reply

man speaks the truth, if not -jdm -steel + nifty + naf

2018-02-06 00:56

- steel + kNgV Easy top5

2018-02-06 00:45

SAD for JDM. :'(

2018-02-06 00:53

ok.. weird

2018-02-06 00:54

Steel and zews, They are gonna destroy this team. They had it in mind to get rid of jdm ever since zews tricked them into getting rid of stanislaw. This team WILL NEVER be a top 3 na team again without 1 player going ham every now and then. Naf would have been better off in renegades.

2018-02-06 00:56

JDM =\

2018-02-06 00:56

\________________ RIP IN PEPRONI AWP BEST IN NA

2018-02-06 01:03

So who will replace him?That's significant for this Australian team.

2018-02-06 01:08

I liked liquid the way they were, but if they decided to do that, they probably have good reasons for it, but I feel for jdm, I liked him. . jdm, if you're reading this, all the love from brazil bro, I watched all liquid's games and I saw how nice was ur relationship with zews and steel. much love from brazil bro <3

2018-02-06 01:10

Not even mentioning jdm in the vid was really cold. They could at least have thanked him and given him some praise.

2018-02-06 01:10

omg Liquid lineup looks so good now :O

2018-02-06 01:11

who will be new awper ?

2018-02-06 01:19

1 reply

the video explains each role ... primary awp = nitro

2018-02-06 01:23

RIP Liquid

2018-02-06 01:19

RIP 'J'ogo 'D'eitado 'M'esmo

2018-02-06 01:21

Liquid now PogChamp

2018-02-06 01:27

Nice now -nitr0 +wardell and ez top 2 na

2018-02-06 01:31

Now, pls pick BnTeT, renegades!!

2018-02-06 01:40

1 reply

2018-02-06 02:21

-steel + nifty then liquid will be great

2018-02-06 01:45

rip liquid lol

2018-02-06 01:45

It was really stranger

2018-02-06 01:52

Great pick up for Liquid, GL NAF Will be interesting to see how this hybrid AWP setup will work, hopefully they can adapt fast

2018-02-06 01:56

Very interesting

2018-02-06 01:57

who will awp?

2018-02-06 02:07

So who is gonna play the awp?

2018-02-06 02:16

lol why Liquid continues to keep useless Steel wtf

2018-02-06 02:24

now we can say that jdm officially fell off the chair

2018-02-06 02:28

What are people's thoughts on RNG bringing in Sgares as an IGL and moving Nifty to full time AWP? This would allow Nifty to fully focus on his AWP (which he's already quite good at) and then Sgares brings in some much needed experience and leadership. Renegades are probably the worst top 30 team when it comes to anti-ecos.

2018-02-06 02:34

1 reply

I would say they need firepower. They are a decent T2 team but with NAF they were getting some big wins over really decent teams. Dont think its realistic to get a guy like sgares and just say Nifty or jks/AZR will become the big "star player". They lucked out getting NAF and just hope they can get another T1 player in the squad. The atter/jayz/nexa lineups lacked massive firepower.

2018-02-06 06:55

-steelepra

2018-02-06 02:35

Team America?

2018-02-06 02:55

NICE!

2018-02-06 03:13

nice down to be a fa n of a team of 2 canadian ol' boys

2018-02-06 03:39

jdm join to Rogue or maybe Cloud9 (-RUSH +jdm)

2018-02-06 04:16

and who will awping?

2018-02-06 04:37

1 reply

nitr0, naf or twistzz one of the three lol

2018-02-06 07:29

Now just -steel +Nifty ez elite team Cuz awp?

2018-02-06 04:40

This is a really good move. I expect big things from liquid. I still think them getting steel was a mistake but let's see.

2018-02-06 04:40

now both liquid and renegades crumble

2018-02-06 05:04

-steel +nifty / Cerq

2018-02-06 06:18

what a snake just when RNG became good

2018-02-06 06:26

5 replies

speaking of snakes high possibility rng get stanislaw

2018-02-06 06:55

3 replies

RNG is a dead team without NAF

2018-02-06 07:10

2 replies

Not really... They will upset teams from time to time and will keep winning the Asia minor - pretty much same as with NAF and before him if you discount Starladder which they probably would have won anyway with how HR and VP were performing at the time. They could be better by this move even but it all depends on their 5th player. NAF had good stats but the team didn't get all that better with him. Ofcs HLTV only cares about stats and not the end team result so I won't try and argue with you.

2018-02-06 07:26

They will probably stay at the same level unless they do some serious changes.

2018-02-06 07:28

not a snake, he worked his ass off in rng and clearly the team wasnt on his level. was only a matter of time, he was a good part of the optic lineup that did well but he got fuked over from stanislaw leaving

2018-02-06 08:37

So, who will be the New 5th? What do u think?

2018-02-06 06:46

2 replies

I hope they will save BnTeT from tyloo, or they can pick sean as igl and nifty fully focus on awp

2018-02-06 06:53

1 reply

Unlikely that they will pick up bn. But sean Gares* sounds good. This is what they need. And pls. This would be the most handsome csgo Team ever.:P *Edited

2018-02-06 16:03

whats w jdm now

2018-02-06 06:46

rip JDM

2018-02-06 07:01

they should've kicked steel, he's no good tbh

2018-02-06 07:14

5 replies

They just signed him wtf

2018-02-06 07:34

3 replies

yes but he's garbage

2018-02-06 07:36

2 replies

Never understood why they picked him up. He was trash on LG, and had an ok stint with IMT. I blame zews.

2018-02-06 09:19

1 reply

virtue signaling i think

2018-02-06 09:25

Yeah Steel and JDM are bringing Team Liquid down I’m glad they swapped out JDM

2018-02-06 08:01

EZ for Liquid

2018-02-06 07:21

Meh

2018-02-06 07:36

2 replies

exactly my thoughts idk why but I feel like neither team will really improve much with this move - mb liquid do a bit better but not to the level they were at with stanislaw

2018-02-06 07:46

1 reply

With s1mple*

2018-02-06 09:28

It has happened bois, lets gooo!

2018-02-06 07:57

wut

2018-02-06 07:59

LETS F GO! CLG.jdm64 inc?

2018-02-06 08:02

1 reply

CLG pulled all their teams from CSGO except their female division.

2018-02-06 12:11

Rogue -cadian +jdm to try to move up in NA rankings.

2018-02-06 08:08

Jdm to renegades 2018

2018-02-06 08:13

-botr0 +jdm pls

2018-02-06 08:33

Now -Steel +Nifty and they have a real team together that can start getting somewhere.. This isn't going to happen now obviously as they just signed him and will probably want to give him a couple events to see if he pans out, but just theorizing anyways.

2018-02-06 08:35

1 reply

That's way too OP

2018-02-06 10:47

naf knew he was going to liquid in that pic, thats why he smilin fo sure

2018-02-06 08:35

gonna miss you bud imgur.com/a/YzCOm

2018-02-06 09:17

What happened to Jdm? I dont see any news about him stepping down or something?^^

2018-02-06 10:19

What do you guys think about this scenario in the future: +Nifty -steel Nifty becomes AWPer, Nitr0 remains IGL and becomes secondary AWPer, Twistzzz also secondary AWPer

2018-02-06 10:23

No "jogo deitado mesmo" anymore =/

2018-02-06 10:23

GGWP Liquid <3

2018-02-06 10:40

If RNG don't pick up an IGL and make Nifty only focus on the AWP, I can't see them keeping their current form. Jks was good when he was star but he wasn't remotely close of delivering numbers as much as NAF did. As for Liquid, depending on how they decide to manage the AWPing, they might lose a bit of firepower but I think that is a nice improvement.

2018-02-06 10:44

Misfits: Amanek devoduvek +n0thing +shroud +jdm Or Shahzam etc. renews contracts?

2018-02-06 10:52

3 replies

No just relyks/n0thing instead of sick

2018-02-06 11:17

2 replies

Sick joined Rogue.

2018-02-06 11:55

1 reply

No just relyks/n0thing INSTEAD of sick

2018-02-06 21:57

who ever joins liquid will play with no problem .. first of all steel was the best player from immortals if steel stayed in liquid they would had verry big succes STEEL was the best player from immortals.. okay but he was not liquid's play style but naf can do anything ...

2018-02-06 11:13

Noice finally liquid Can Become good

2018-02-06 11:16

Expected

2018-02-06 11:49

100% GOOD MOVE #FUCKJDM #GODNAF #GOLIQUID maybe shahz or nifty can join too if they struggle to awp

2018-02-06 11:59

JDM is better LOL.

2018-02-06 12:25

This lineup looks insane Also, liquid>clown9

2018-02-06 12:26

yo HLTV bois, please put the transfer fully as the title, for example "NAF joins Liquid, jdm64 steps down"

2018-02-06 12:56

Changequid

2018-02-06 13:26

They should've sign mixwell. With him, the team wouldve had all they need: good riflers and a good aggro awper.

2018-02-06 16:15

1 reply

mixwell prefers to stay in EU

2018-02-06 19:54

nitr0 awp primary is going to be good. also the team is immediately more versatile. the chemistry is the challenge. but the ceiling has been raised for this team.

2018-02-06 17:09

gratz,well deserved

2018-02-06 17:30

honestly before the major nitr0 would've been benched with jdm, then the major came and he was the carry

2018-02-06 18:08

JDM </3 where will he go now?? :(((( ;(((((

2018-02-06 19:01

jdm being removed was long overdue. I like him as a person but like cajunb, players who can't make a significant impact without an AWP are slowly being phased out of the game. GL to NAF though, much deserved.

2018-02-06 20:52