flamie explains decision to skip WESG Finals

10-3-2018 22:27

Natus Vincere member Egor "flamie" Vasilyev has explained why he will not attend the upcoming WESG Finals with Team Russia.

The 20-year-old has posted a message on social network VK.com stating that he has elected not to play at the Chinese event due to "many personal issues".

It is the same explanation provided initially by his Na`Vi teammate Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev, who added in a statement released earlier on Saturday that he needs to rest as he feels "exhausted" after the recent weeks of practice.

flamie cites personal reasons to skip the WESG event

Russia captain Denis "⁠seized⁠" Kostin had made no secret that he was shocked by his teammate's last-minute decision, but Egor "⁠flamie⁠" Vasilyev insists that competing at the event would be "a total failure" - and has offered to pay for his replacement's flights.

"There are many personal issues behind this," he wrote. "The team has time to find a replacement, and it is possible to get a visa upon arrival, so any Russian player can go.

"I am even ready to pay the flight tickets if the organisation refuses to do so. I am sorry, but considering the current state it would be a total failure to play this tournament. I hope that hooch (or the stand-in) will be able to go and play well.

"I do not ask for your support, everything will be okay, it is not the end of the world. This break will be vital for future results."

Russia have not yet announced whether Dmitry "⁠hooch⁠" Bogdanov - who had stepped down as coach on Friday due to family reasons - will be able to make it to the event or they will have to field coach Vadim "⁠MSE⁠" Zimin as their fifth player. seized's men have been drawn in Group D for the Chinese event, which begins on Tuesday, alongside SK, BIG and New4.

Excuses

2018-03-10 22:27

34 replies

Tired of being carried

2018-03-10 22:28

5 replies

Cloud9 ou sk who else

2018-03-10 22:44

4 replies

Fnatic.

2018-03-10 23:07

3 replies

Are out

2018-03-10 23:10

2 replies

they're literally in the same group as Cloud9.

1 reply

Grandfinal Fnatic - Godsent. Check

2018-03-11 16:00

fallen's already busted out his pen and paper

2018-03-10 22:29

16 replies

WESG 2017 will forever be remembered as the fight for excuses

2018-03-10 23:00

15 replies

2018*

2018-03-11 00:03

14 replies

2017** It's a 2 year-long tournament which started last year. It's named WESG 2017.

2018-03-11 00:09

13 replies

Oh I never noticed my bad

2018-03-11 01:07

12 replies

Get rekt by favela

2018-03-11 01:23

11 replies

Rofl

2018-03-11 03:21

Favela HAS 6 MAJORS SINCE 1.6 AND 5 WORLD CUPS, WHAT SPAIN HAS? JUST RAFAEL NADAL LOL

2018-03-11 04:23

9 replies

calm down my friend

2018-03-11 05:15

Spain has Ronaldo, who you got?

2018-03-11 06:32

7 replies

ronaldo is from portugal, but ok :)

2018-03-11 08:46

6 replies

Plays for Madrid so idc

2018-03-11 09:00

With your logic Messi is Spanish...

2018-03-11 09:23

LOL

2018-03-12 04:43

indeed, he has double nacionality

2018-03-13 09:03

sometimes its better to just su =)

2018-03-11 12:41

Take it on the chin m8

2018-03-11 15:12

SKcuses*

:''D

2018-03-10 22:37

Lul

SORRY BRO , PORTUGAL CS IS VERY POOR, THANKS TO BE A BRAZILIAN FAN

2018-03-11 04:24

Fallen himself said that fox gave them the motivation to continue playing at atlanta

2018-03-11 06:33

Stfu and look at his point of view and think one more time

2018-03-10 22:30

"Without simple dropping 40 bombs I might as well play pubg at home. if you guys don't even understand this u can go syka your self."

2018-03-10 22:31

s1mple plays for ukraine, flamie plays for Russia.

Yes, that's why s1mple can't 40 bomb for him

2018-03-10 23:01

Flusha will dropp a million aces

2018-03-11 03:39

And you play for team Braindead Retard Who Can't Read or Deduce.

2018-03-11 19:08

23 replies

Unbelievable... Flamie please say the truth, it's s1mple who actually made u withdraw from the tournament This guy is ruining people dreams... Its incredible how a single player can ruin an entire team...loook at NaVi... 2nd at Cluj (the last major win for EnVyUs) 2nd at ESL ESEA 2 (defeated LG, lost to unbeatable fnatic) 2nd at Starladder (lost to unbeatable fnatic) 3-4th at IEM (lost to LG) 2nd at MLG (lost to LG) 2nd at DH Malmo (lost to NiP) 3-4th at ELEAGUE (lost to just fnatic). After s1mple joined - failure after failure Guardian is playing insane again on FaZe... seized is happy on Gambit and now can actually win something flamie is clearly not happy with you... You literally made him withdraw for a 1.5m tournament just because of your behavior... STOP RUINING PEOPLE LIVES!

2018-03-10 22:32

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+1, ITS INCREDIBLE

2018-03-10 22:42

and New York?

2018-03-10 22:43

Wow... You can't forget about the rest Just because they won 1 event when teams heavily underperformed

2018-03-10 22:45

Starladder they beat faze lost to #2 team mouz

2018-03-10 22:49

It's better to win 1 event than to lose to Fnatic in the finals all the time.

2018-03-10 22:56

"seized is happy on Gambit and now can actually win something" they are losing to some tier3 mdl teams rofl how they can win something now?

They just beat Navi to a ecs spot lol

wow nice but it doesn't change the fact that they suck lul

2018-03-10 22:46

Fan of sprout ?

2018-03-11 10:48

YES I KNOW SPROUT IS SHIT TOO but they look kinda better now

2018-03-11 16:07

They always lost to shit tier3 teams in premier , they don’t have good ping but on lan they always have good results

2018-03-10 23:42

Yeah like on Boston major where they were out in groups

2018-03-11 18:10

Oof nvm never will see what I said

2018-03-10 22:47

How did simple make flamie withdraw. It isn't even necessarily due to navi that they withdrew seeing as electronic is still supposed to be playing. And flamie and simple weren't on same team for Wesg.

2018-03-10 22:48

Zeus and Edward were also going to attend until Ukraine withdrew

2018-03-10 22:50

why Ukraine withdrew? They may take Jr from Vega to take part in wesg. Vega players 100% has china visas... Especially Vega is top china team))

2018-03-11 16:11

+1 ikr it doesn’t even make sense also adding s1mple, THE BEST PLAYER IN UKRAINE who has carried them most of the time since he has joined just doesn’t equal to destroying a team. If anything GuardiaN destroyed it with a lack of motivation and not caring about the game, bringing the team down with him. Seized sucked ass and they didn’t even have an IGL. Zeus was not the proper solution for an IGL considering he can’t frag for shit along side Edward who is a coin flip for how well he will do every single match. Don’t blame s1mple for Navis losses considering the whole team is falling apart. Also mouz -STYKO +s1mple PLEASE

2018-03-10 22:54

Yeah also he's not the only person in the team that's been described as toxic. Zeus and flamie have too. But unlike them he puts up consistently insane numbers. Flamie is amazing when he's playing well but pretty average if not poor when he isn't feeling it.

lul conspiracy theorist

Lul? Braindead? They play different teams for wesg

2018-03-10 23:23

how is it s1mple that made him withdraw if they wouldnt even be playing for the same team at the tournament?

2018-03-11 02:42

Stfu.

2018-03-11 15:16

Nice

Personal issues personal issues personal issues... This is so obviously not true

Could be personal issues within the team. Who knows. They never mentioned which personal issues. So chill.

2018-03-10 22:57

Well even if it is: WESG planned an event and they decided to participate. You can't back down on it unless you communicate a good reason not to to your team and the event organisers. You don't need to disclose it to the public but from the tweets we've seen, he informed noone about the specific reasons. That's unprofessional and shouldn't just be accepted.

2018-03-11 09:19

Lol. How do you who communicates what in private from tweets?

2018-03-11 09:42

seized's tweets make it pretty apparent, if he would've listed a good reason, he's probably understand.

2018-03-11 21:21

Totally agree. Withdrawing days before the event starting without strong reason is very unprofessional.

2018-03-11 11:16

wtf?

Rip

cry like a girl

Haha nice

More Excuses, disband NAVI

2018-03-10 22:53

without s1mple they are tier 2

2 times major finalists tier2

Different team, different era. Put that team back together now and it’ll fall flat on its arse, regardless of personal issues between players

tell that to guardian who became top tier awper again right after he left s1mple

2018-03-10 22:35

He was demotivated, and yeah, maybe him and s1mple didn’t get on. But you won’t find 1 analyst who says s1mple is the reason na’vi are shit

2018-03-10 22:52

Edward was decent back then so was seized and zeus was a good tactician together with starix. Yeah players might be the same but their form was good, now they look lost and also individual skill is not that good.

2018-03-10 23:03

Seized is a sad story, dude used to be a beast. Being an IGL for whatever reason fucking ruined him last year

tier 3*

Idiot? They are in different teans

2018-03-10 23:24

The eternal amerimutt

2018-03-11 14:06

2 pussy to play wo simple

Ooookey...

Wtf is happening..

Your team is falling apart

2018-03-10 23:02

Yes.. That's Sad..

2018-03-10 23:04

i still don't understand the logic behind this, you just don't do stuff like this when the tournament is about to start.... edit: i was so fking hyped up to see this ukrainian squad play on a big LAN event, nothing but a shame...

Flamie is too tired to play CS, so he will stay home and play PUBG

*football manager oh, wait, he already doing it..

2018-03-10 23:34

Rip :(

GG Navi disbanding finally

professionalism 0/8

116.4 hrs last two weeks on football manager...

PSG -Unai Emery +Flamie

OK, this particular statement basically confirms what everyone was thinking. Na'Vi is fucked.

I don't see any explanation. Don't want to explain then shut up instead of wasting everyone's time with more bs.

What a softy ...

pff

expected from unprofessional CIS scum

Where is the explanation ?

take rest

2018-03-10 22:39

he didn't explain anything?????? nice title mira

basically - na'vi need this time to get their shit together

Not N'avi, but the players as individuals.

2018-03-10 23:29

wesg is interesting event before of start, so much drama here.

wtf man? wtf man? wtf man?

just replace him with mir still ez 4 russia

2018-03-11 04:30

he is depresse i know but its not excuse

They should receive a penalty. Probably the same problem with ukraine. They placed first in the qualifiers and now they fuck up the entire tournament by leaving at the last minute because they dont want to play but instead want to focus on their future? Its not supposed to be a game that they can join whenever they want and quit whenever they want. Its a 1.5M $ event ffs they are making it a joke why play the quals in the first place

ikr, left in the last minute is unforgivable. They fucked up the whole event.

2018-03-11 05:42

is seized still waiting at the airport???

Legend says seized is still waiting

2018-03-10 23:05

Flamie is a baby

2018-03-10 22:41

Standard kiddy bs. No respect for anything or anyone.

Exhausted from playing cs

navi team no ecs team players no playing wesg facebook.com/VTR12345/posts/177765375229..

lol navi yönetim amborga !

Maybe they made a revolution with Simple in NAVI and took control of the organization on their own and now are sitting and looking for new teammates. Then it is all justified

why they say personal issues and then not discuss further if issues on team or individual. just makes yourself seem like a like you're the issue or bipolar or somit

2018-03-10 22:55

sure Kapp

2018-03-10 22:59

Flamie toxic Flamie destroyed russia

i.e. too tilted to fly to China

fat hoe

personal issues personal issues personal issues axaxaxaxa

2018-03-10 23:11

Keeping practice to lost ECS spot Nice

2018-03-10 23:12

hahaha sure pig

2018-03-10 23:26

I agree with flamie

2018-03-10 23:28

personal issues - tilt

2018-03-10 23:32

2018-03-11 00:00

Stupid

2018-03-10 23:36

🐍 sssss

2018-03-10 23:38

: i dont want to play with staraya huynya

2018-03-10 23:45

* I want to play football manager

2018-03-11 08:50

0 respect for flamie and s1mple, they should be banned from pro scene

2018-03-10 23:46

THERE IS ALWAYS PERSONAL ISSUES FUCK YOUR PERSONAL ISSUES YOU IDIOTS

2018-03-10 23:48

2018-03-11 05:39

Expected from Egor ''TwoFaced'' Toledo

2018-03-10 23:50

flamie is boring of CS, no respect to fans, no respect the scene no respect nothing, fak you faking fat boy .!.

2018-03-10 23:59

I refuse to believe that this has nothing to do with losing to godsent. S1mple is saying how they have been practicing insanely hard over the last 2 weeks. So their spirits are most likely crushed for having played so much cs and still failing to qualify. I’m not sure why they’re lying, it’s weird.

2018-03-11 00:04

steamcommunity.com/id/flamie7 He closed his Steam profile, now no one will see how he plays football manager. gj ⁣🏀 👑 ##| 👆🏿 👴🏿 | 🐛💤👔🐛 | ⛽⁣ 👉🏿 |y ⚡👟 | 🎸 🌂 |y 👢 👢 | ...

2018-03-11 00:07

2018-03-11 00:43

lmao

2018-03-11 02:29

Lmao +HLTV GOLD

2018-03-11 03:10

rofl

2018-03-11 12:37

What a dickhead..

2018-03-11 00:12

Simple and flamie are pissed. Or they’re so embarrassed that they don’t want to face the humiliation of getting stomped because Edward and Zeus can’t hit water if they fell out of a boat.

2018-03-11 00:13

s1mple aside, flaime in another team but he also quit. This is what we called asshole.

2018-03-11 05:37

Flamie in another team? He left NaVi? I’m not seeing that anywhere. What did you call? Lol I’m confused as fuck by how vague your comment was.

2018-03-11 05:48

There are two teams, Ukraine and Russia team. S1mple in Ukraine team and flamie in russia team, can we stop your stupid now?

2018-03-11 06:37

Flamie top 1 <3

2018-03-11 00:19

ROFL, "Flamie explains the situation" "personal reasons" GJFLAMIE I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING NOW

2018-03-11 00:44

lol my reaction to their reactions

2018-03-11 05:09

i travel to china land to see flamie and he does this. I am crying :(

2018-03-11 01:17

if not bait then feelsbadman :(

not bait man. I am from Brazil but in asia for work and managed to get time off. I have been a big flamie fan for ages and finally get to see him live

2018-03-11 20:00

that really sucks dude. >:( these players really trigger me man lose one match and throw tantrums

2018-03-12 02:55

Pussy, he is trash anyways

2018-03-11 01:20

It's cause they both use the same coder and the recent update fucked their hacks

2018-03-11 01:25

nice explanation

2018-03-11 05:36

yeah, nice explanation.. S1mple and flamie backed down, but Edward and Zeus would play anyway, so it can't be a team decision to just take a break from playing. They should be professiona, This is disrespectful for both their teammates that they left hanging and for the tournament organizer that now needs to find how to replace 1 team(maybe 2, if Russia also withdraws).

2018-03-11 01:33

Immaturity. And throwing away a chance at HUGE prize money. If you are building national inter-organizational all-star teams, you must have back-up options and trust in those you choose.

2018-03-11 02:19

Sigh these kids, what has esports come to? REMEMBER WHEN TOURNEYS GAVE ONLY 10,000$ AND PEOPLE WOULD GO?

2018-03-11 02:30

2018-03-11 08:47

ez 4 mir

2018-03-11 04:32

Don't do this in last minute. This kind of troll can destroy whole team.

2018-03-11 05:24

Tbf they deserve a huge kick in the ass by their organisation. This is disrespectful and it damages navi's image.

2018-03-11 10:53

s1mple flamie hooch DODGERS

2018-03-11 05:28

All this is so strange, damn...

2018-03-11 08:59

SAMOGON TASHIIIII :DDD

2018-03-11 10:17

How about give the tournament organisers time to replace players you idiot players.

2018-03-11 10:25

NaVi always have been crybabies. They're as bad as G2 with NBKry. Just because they dont win and get outplayed by decent teams they think they shouldn't lose to. Flamie and simple think they are soooo good, pure arrogance and both toxic af At least teams like fnatic and NiP just accept the losses, dont whine, grind more and come back stronger with good results, fnatic especially. NiP will be strong this year with dennis

2018-03-11 10:44

Cool story

2018-03-11 14:11

navi fangay detected

2018-03-12 13:54

Flamie: " I will not be able to go to the WESG, because I need more time for playing Football Manager (personal issues)"

2018-03-11 10:45

You understand s1mple(ua) has nothing to do with flamie(ru) this event?

2018-03-11 10:49

What a douchebag. He could have said this way before and the team could have sorted things out differently. Now he fucked his team and his fans. What a moron. Just like simple.

2018-03-11 10:51

flamie for mother russia XD

2018-03-11 11:03

lol what a bunch of kids,he literally has no reason to it,thats so fucking unprofessional from both S1mple and him

2018-03-11 11:14

Personal issues is a new meme

2018-03-11 11:51

tilt with s1mple

2018-03-11 14:08

Its obvious he and s1mple had a conflict with Zeus/Edward. S1mple felt that it would be a waste to just go there ( with Edward and Zeus ). Pretty sure, thats the brutal truth.

2018-03-11 15:06