ESL's bsl: "No ideal timing to introduce Dust2; continuing with Cbble was pointless"

We had a quick chat with ESL Tournament Director Jonas "bsl" Alsaker Vikan following the recent Dust2 announcement to know more about the process of adding the map to the pool for its big events.

ESL has become the first tournament organiser to embrace the new Dust2, which was added to the Active Duty pool in Cobblestone's place in Friday's update, with the map set to make an appearance at the upcoming IEM Sydney event, kicking off in a week's time.

Players like Jesper "⁠JW⁠" Wecksell and Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo have expressed concern about the timing of the announcement, with the SK captain stating that teams should be given at least a month to practice a map that has undergone changes.

bsl addresses the map pool change ahead of IEM Sydney

Read on to find out why ESL is introducing Dust2 just days leading up to an event, how the teams were consulted in the decision-making process and their reaction to changes in this brief interview with Jonas "⁠bsl⁠" Alsaker Vikan, the German company's Tournament Director since August.

What made ESL decide to add Dust2 this close to IEM Sydney, with teams having very little time to practice the map?

At this point there was not a great option or any ideal timing. Valve introducing it into the Active Duty sends a strong signal to all, the early stages of the Major will start soon and on our end there are two huge tournaments coming up in little over three weeks. From there it’s back-to-back competitions up until the player break. Continuing with Cbble when it won't get played just because teams are used to it seems pointless. Also the time frame involved here is the same for everyone. Teams who do not feel comfortable can always use veto. 

What was the process behind this decision? Was this previously discussed with teams and players, or was it made by ESL alone?

I began the process here as always by contacting player representative Scott Smith. While that marinated we had discussions internally at ESL. After talking to Scott again, we reached out to the Sydney teams to ask for their feedback. Most rendered opinions and they were weighed against the facts; equal time to prepare, no good moment to introduce due to condensed schedule and the fact that Dust2 will be part of a Major everyone is gunning for. Ultimately I have to make a decision in these matters. They will not always be right or popular, but I think the process here was fair, given the time restraints everything was working under.

Don't you think teams will make a pact and outright ban the map?

How teams choose to use their vetos is one of the many things that make CSGO so interesting. From my position I’ll be careful in having an opinion on how they use their vetos, they will do what they feel is best for their team on the day and the rest we’ll all see on the server.

How have teams reacted to the news?

Reactions have been mixed, some are happy, some are not. I realize it is a challenge for them, but you have to remember these are, by now, highly paid professionals, and I am confident they will handle Dust2 just fine.

Norway Jonas 'bsl' Alsaker Vikan
Jonas 'bsl' Alsaker Vikan
Age:
36
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
-
Maps played:
0
KPR:
-
DPR:
-
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
808
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.60
Sweden Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1307
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
Rush b
2018-04-23 20:24
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Malaysia Suno[t]
how is this first
2018-04-23 20:25
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9 replies
I am the third one
2018-04-23 20:28
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2 replies
lol
2018-04-23 21:38
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1 reply
Fifth
2018-04-24 13:38
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I was the first actually:(
2018-04-23 20:29
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4 replies
I was second wtf
2018-04-23 20:36
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#52
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chrisJ | 
Germany 1buffen
Yeah saw your 'Hallo!' haha
2018-04-23 20:37
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2 replies
What has happened? I don't see that before...
2018-04-23 22:09
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1 reply
#99
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chrisJ | 
Germany 1buffen
Me neither...
2018-04-23 22:10
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#39
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Australia USTlLO
it deserves to be first
2018-04-23 20:29
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haha yes
2018-04-23 20:26
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cyka?
2018-04-23 20:26
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1 reply
#127
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f0rest | 
Netherlands IJesuZzzz
I agree
2018-04-24 00:32
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Rush B is back bois
2018-04-23 21:08
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1 reply
you forgot on inferno :(
2018-04-24 13:01
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Hahaha! Yaaass! RUUUUSSSHHH B!!!
2018-04-23 21:53
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#6
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United States MrNoodle
Interesting
2018-04-23 20:24
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#7
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Europe senko_o
ok
2018-04-23 20:24
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What?
2018-04-23 20:25
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#10
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Kazakhstan gayzera
LIQUID TO GET REKT BY SIMPLES AWP
2018-04-23 20:25
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#11
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Moldova OptimusBlyad
oh bsl
2018-04-23 20:25
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Good, good
2018-04-23 20:26
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Yes
2018-04-23 20:25
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#15
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Europe traqqi
makes sense
2018-04-23 20:25
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#16
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Czech Republic Atten_xD
Noice
2018-04-23 20:25
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cbble bad map
2018-04-23 20:25
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1 reply
+1
2018-04-23 22:08
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Understandable, have a nice day
2018-04-23 20:25
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#20
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Brazil erfur
cbble > nuke... wrong decision
2018-04-23 20:26
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10 replies
#79
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Portugal kippster
Just because sk suck on it doesn't mean it's a bad map, it's one of the best maps for viewers actually
2018-04-23 21:13
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9 replies
#82
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Brazil erfur
Cbble is better than nuke... is my opnion, very few games in this map nuke, the map by having floors makes it difficult to choose a camera who is streaming for example... the map is very unbalanced... because I'm a fan of sk you already insinuate that I dont like because of them... its a bad map period.
2018-04-23 21:21
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7 replies
#86
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Portugal kippster
It's an amazing and unique map while cobble is just dull
2018-04-23 21:34
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Cbble worst map by faaaaaaaaar. The most boring map to watch, super passive map for the CTs, just sit and wait.
2018-04-23 21:37
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#91
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Sweden zae
Cbble is trash so is dust2 Pls add de_tuscan to active map pool valve....
2018-04-23 21:40
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4 replies
Ooo yes please I loved that map
2018-04-23 22:09
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#108
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Denmark Lamot
De_Cpl_mill please
2018-04-23 22:49
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season old nuke overpass cache mirage/old mirage train/d2/cbbl/tuscan inferno
2018-04-23 23:06
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#167
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shaGuar | 
United States brieN
Russka or death
2018-04-27 01:37
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Nuke should still leave. It's not really about SK but statistic will never lie and it point out that Nuke is by far the least played and the most banned map. It's not like SK is bad on Dust 2 either, but there's not a bit of logic following cobbles removal in my eyes. Actually, I also feel like Nuke is a better map because of what it offers, but if it was up to me, I would keep the same map pool until the end of the major
2018-04-24 13:37
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Thumbs up
2018-04-23 20:26
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"continuing with cobble was pointless" +100000000000000000000
2018-04-23 20:26
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#24
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Brazil Exfm
I agree bsl. That was the nest choice to add teh best map ever, it took too long though but thanks anyway
2018-04-23 20:26
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1 reply
It's not their fault, they couldn't do it until valve did it. I guess technically they could have but no one does anything until valve does it
2018-04-23 22:10
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#25
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advent | 
United States ToastytheBaker
ouch
2018-04-23 20:26
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#26
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United States Asian
FRENCH SCENE WILL BE BACK DUST2 BEST MAP FOR MY BAGUETTES
2018-04-23 20:26
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4 replies
#44
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chrisJ | 
Germany 1buffen
Well 'old' mouz was very decent on D2 as well. All in all I'm very happy that there will be something fresh in the tournament's again. Can't wait to see how teams will perform on this map
2018-04-23 20:30
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#93
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United States Asian
There is no 'old' mous
2018-04-23 22:00
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They were good on dd2 because dd2 was legit the only map Denis played really well on, at least on a semi-consistent basis. Now that they kicked every player from their old lineup besides Chris, I'm not sure if dd2 will be a good map.
2018-04-24 11:35
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#165
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France Moutono
Baguettes love D2 !
2018-04-25 21:50
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#27
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Malaysia Suno[t]
imo teams shouldn't be afraid of this map. Sure it was taken out the pool for roughly a year but it was on the calendar for the previous four years.
2018-04-23 20:27
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#29
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Finland Emvi
Agreed
2018-04-23 20:27
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#30
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FalleN | 
World Vechnyp
xantares is back
2018-04-23 20:27
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2 replies
#38
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dupreeh | 
Europe Dan Zero
Xantares vs Shox? :D
2018-04-23 20:29
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1 reply
#47
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chrisJ | 
Germany 1buffen
vs Scream?
2018-04-23 20:31
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Rush b, protect conector. Ez dust 2.
2018-04-23 20:27
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Cobble>dukenukem>trainpass
2018-04-23 20:27
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1 reply
Train > overpass> nuke> cobble
2018-04-23 23:54
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>with the SK captain stating that teams should be given at least a month to practice a map that has undergone changes. The new version of Dust2 has been available to play since October last year. You've had about 6 months
2018-04-23 20:28
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16 replies
+1
2018-04-23 20:29
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#48
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Poland Kobel_
You think that teams practice maps that are not played in the pro tournaments?
2018-04-23 20:32
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14 replies
Everyone knew that Dust2 was coming back sooner or later. You'd have to be insane to think otherwise, it's fucking Dust2 for Christ's sake. Fallen is just being a little bitchboy. Don't pamper these guys, who get paid very well to play video games for a living.
2018-04-23 20:34
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10 replies
#54
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Finland Sizz - <3 ex-LGB
this
2018-04-23 20:38
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#61
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Brazil cinza
u r braindead probably
2018-04-23 20:44
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7 replies
>giving a shit what some subhuman thinks I don't think so pedro
2018-04-23 20:55
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6 replies
#76
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Poland Ktav
Savage :D
2018-04-23 21:08
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#87
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Brazil cinza
the diagnosis was confirmed: braindead sorry!
2018-04-23 21:34
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4 replies
#122
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China Lolfeminists
Lmao Pedro rekt
2018-04-23 23:34
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3 replies
#136
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Brazil cinza
2 australian bois wasting their time on me?? that is sooooooo CUTIEEE ! and sooooo fag at the same time..! LOL rekt OMEGALUL
2018-04-24 04:51
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2 replies
#140
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China Lolfeminists
Hi Pedro or poordro?
2018-04-24 06:35
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1 reply
#145
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Brazil cinza
fag! LOL
2018-04-24 08:48
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+1! fallen should be thankful valve gave him an excuse to lose games... i can already taste the salty tears of "mimimi"
2018-04-23 22:48
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Everyone should have known that sooner or later it will be intrduced to active map pool again. Any team captain or coach should have seen this day coming.
2018-04-23 20:39
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#59
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Brazil cinza
LOL +1.982.379,00
2018-04-23 20:43
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#117
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Norway kiitian
he probably plays de_cruise or canals
2018-04-23 23:23
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#34
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Netherlands De-linquent
Love the fact he's reaching out to so many different representatives from every part of the CS:GO proscene, instead of making it an inhouse decision. Props to ESL/bsl.
2018-04-23 20:28
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#35
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dupreeh | 
Europe Dan Zero
It was the right decision!
2018-04-23 20:28
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#41
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s1mple | 
Israel JezuSw0w
Esl bsl
2018-04-23 20:30
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Esl bsl
2018-04-23 20:30
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Can't disagree with his reasoning tbh
2018-04-23 20:30
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I think it will be the most vetod map at Sydney
2018-04-23 20:34
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#56
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Norway kakkopp
I think u will be suprised then
2018-04-23 20:40
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are u mad?
2018-04-23 20:38
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This sucks
2018-04-23 20:41
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the map is out since November, plenty of time to prepare something for it. You can't tell me no one practiced it, everyone knew it would be replacing another map this year.
2018-04-23 20:41
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#74
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Mongolia Schweinepriester
Ikr. They all act like its a conpletely new map. Like for example overpass was
2018-04-23 21:05
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1 reply
#118
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Norway kiitian
it kinda is completely new when you dont play it.
2018-04-23 23:25
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#60
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Skadoodle | 
United States Davis410
Its not like teams haven't played the new d2 yet. They only DM on it every day...
2018-04-23 20:44
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#62
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
znxxX | 
Turkey Jarrod
Bsl vac banned by GABEN
2018-04-23 20:49
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#63
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
I loved this one: "Reactions have been mixed, some are happy, some are not. I realize it is a challenge for them, but you have to remember these are, by now, highly paid professionals, and I am confident they will handle Dust2 just fine." Eat it! Love the map though, nice to see it back!
2018-04-23 20:51
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#163
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Russia Samurai`
Yap, great reply. It seems the more some players are paid the more they tend to complain, and it's dust2... how can you even think of whining. And in general it's interesting to see how teams are able to adapt to new rules or maps given limited amount of time.
2018-04-24 20:54
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Needs time to "practice" dust 2 lmao
2018-04-23 20:51
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1 reply
#120
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Norway kiitian
this is why you guys will always be dmg's at best
2018-04-23 23:26
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#66
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Belarus SHlZZO
Rush "B" suka blyad!
2018-04-23 20:53
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#68
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United States Prattatat
Actually a real good back and forth, glad ESl are sticking with their decision and that it was made with input from all sides
2018-04-23 20:56
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#69
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Finland Smoonah
"pointless" dust2 same sentence ?????
2018-04-23 20:56
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#70
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Sweden krrdtta
>with the SK captain stating that teams should be given at least a month to practice a map that has undergone changes. It's the same for every team, whine, whine, whine is all i hear from fallen and his comprades.
2018-04-23 20:59
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#71
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mika | 
Finland dfrrrrrrrrrrrr
nice
2018-04-23 21:01
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#72
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Mongolia Schweinepriester
Definitely the right move. Cbble wasnt fun to play and/or watch. And dust2 beeing revisited is the perfect map now for the active duty pool. I expect great matches from teams like mouz, nip and astralis
2018-04-23 21:03
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Nice map in pro scene ... but in mm its terrible huahaua ... it will be nice to see sk playing this.
2018-04-23 21:03
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1 reply
dust 2 in MM = hacks
2018-04-24 13:19
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#77
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World Scova
i mean if u cant adapt idk what to tell u
2018-04-23 21:09
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#78
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Germany vipitis
Map has been out for months; there should be another smokes out there and smart enough teams knew it would come up before the major so they picked up a few practise matches. I really hope to see it in Sydney.
2018-04-23 21:12
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1 reply
+111
2018-04-23 21:36
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rush mid syka blyad
2018-04-23 21:13
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#81
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Europe erhansol
classic fallen bitching about everything all the time. "if there wasnt a game called Cs:Go, we wouldnt be losing" -Fallen
2018-04-23 21:15
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"At this point there was not a great option or any ideal timing." Yeah, except a whole FUCKING MONTH without tournaments. Anyway, better late than never.
2018-04-23 21:21
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1 reply
+1 xD
2018-04-24 13:04
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#84
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Portugal zpm
lol
2018-04-23 21:25
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#85
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Finland teppo123
Not having d2 in the pool was always a really weird move, it's a map most spectators and majority of players favor above all other maps
2018-04-23 21:29
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1 reply
#94
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Malaysia byaIi
jw jump from short to box killining t spawn
2018-04-23 22:02
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#100
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World thebody1403
Not the first tournament organizer. Blast was first.
2018-04-23 22:10
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#101
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roman | 
Palestine ndr[o]
well done
2018-04-23 22:11
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#105
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Puls3 | 
World bigb1rd
I hope bsl employs MSL to work at ESL and drives him about in an M3 csl dressed in YSL to some GSL format events and ask him "a/s/l?" using Jsl which they've both been learning.
2018-04-23 22:42
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1 reply
omegakek
2018-04-23 22:52
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#106
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mika | 
Sweden tubewoody
Good. Cbble have always been shit
2018-04-23 22:45
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bye bye dlore hello ez money on skins and packages
2018-04-23 22:53
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#111
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jks | 
Australia NinetyDegrees
Piss cache off. Sick of seeing it on every bo3
2018-04-23 22:59
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D2 is BACK BOIS
2018-04-23 23:04
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#114
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United States Will767
Rush B! Don’t stop!!!! ughhhhh yeahhh oh baby!!! I like it how u waterfall like that!!!!
2018-04-23 23:18
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Helps Aim teams. Bad for teams who are bad on dd2 and were good on cbble
2018-04-23 23:19
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#116
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United States Cheezyshooter
If you're the "Best" team in CS, this shouldn't be that hard of a challenge lol. D2 is the most played out map in CSGO. Pointless whining.
2018-04-23 23:21
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Dust 2 relies on great aim. Just because it is the most popular map in the pro scene does not mean that anyone can master the map if they're the best team. The best teams in the world aren't even the best on every map. But in agreement, the pros should have known that Dust 2 was returning to the map pool and prepared better.
2018-04-23 23:25
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#121
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GeT_RiGhT | 
Norway kiitian
introducing a new map in the pool just days before an professional event is annoying for every team. the complaints are valid.
2018-04-23 23:29
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#124
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Sweden jompet
Praccing a map to be as good as you can is one thing, but it's dust2 we're talking about here. I think it'll be one of the most played maps again in no time.
2018-04-23 23:59
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#125
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United States ColdToiletSeats
dust2 is a 1000000 years old lmao act's like nobody knows it .. big cry babies
2018-04-24 00:18
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1 reply
#130
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
+1 it's such a simple map. Easy to understand. Probably the less "tactical" map, while being one of the best to play and watch
2018-04-24 01:24
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#128
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African Union mikecool
DustPoo
2018-04-24 01:01
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#129
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coldzera | 
Brazil Collee
Cobble and nuke are pointless maps. Both shouldn't have been around for more than 6 months, more than enough time to realize they're trash. Especially cobble, which was only played in like CS 1.3
2018-04-24 01:22
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#131
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Netherlands FEodAL
what a shame, 20 years passed and we still play dd2, its the same map nothing changed just the looks. Would've been better to pay our respects and move on to new maps.
2018-04-24 01:35
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cbble > nukshit nuke is most pointless map of csgo. Why the fear in put new maps on role? Valve is a joke! Valve in CSGO is so afraid to introduce new maps on role... more 20 years of nuke, dust and inferno's?! Where is Santorini, cpl_mill and fire, in workshop have much maps fun for competitive. I'm tired of watch csgo matches with same content
2018-04-24 01:49
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#137
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Brazil $anji
Nuke is actually good, what made the map unplayable was the "Unreal Engine" style. Maps should be simpler like they used to be on Source and GO beta.
2018-04-24 05:01
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#138
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Brazil $anji
Cbble so overplayed
2018-04-24 05:02
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#142
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World mukas17
Good call. Who wants to keep practicing/playing cobble when it won't be part of the next major cycle? Sure, you might get fucked in this next event but overall you will improve your map pool for the future and the most important event on the calendar.
2018-04-24 07:30
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#143
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World mukas17
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2018-04-24 07:31
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good stuff was getting boring watching same maps
2018-04-24 08:57
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ESL's bs: "No ideal timing to introduce Dust2; continuing with Cbble was pointless"
2018-04-24 10:06
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#149
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Slovakia sanjuro
the map is exactly same as before, no reason to worry
2018-04-24 10:18
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#150
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Kazakhstan RiNat1337
I play Cobble today,and i don't like that map!!! Drop Room is shit...If T get Drop - they wins the round! Please fix Drop Room pls,fuking disbalance!
2018-04-24 11:15
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Cobble sucks, but pros generally agree that it is better than dust 2
2018-04-24 11:38
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#158
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World Nydhogg
RIP Space Soldiers
2018-04-24 13:40
0
cbble is way better than dust2, dust2 is just another map 100% dedicated to trash awpers.
2018-04-24 17:54
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#164
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Australia SUNSPY
More confirmation on the future of cobble souvenirs. Prices haven't gone up much yet, I guess people don't think Valve would give up 0.00000001% of their income ? "oh they won't stop cobble cases they make SO much off them" lol? No reason Medusa or other rare can't just be added to an AD map collection before next major. I hope it doesn't happen, keep the Dragon Lore a rare special souvenir for the ages
2018-04-25 09:47
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