DreamHack Open Winter to be played on latest patch with agents disabled

DreamHack have joined ECS and ESL in banning the use of the new player models in their tournaments.

The latest update to CS:GO brought a price increase to the SG553 and buffed the Galil and Famas. Along with the weapon changes came a new operation, Shattered Web, and the ability to change the player models the same way as one would with weapon skins.

The new player models, called agents, have not been without criticism, however, as certain models can create a competitive advantage in certain situations due to visibility issues as Roald Van Buuren, FACEIT's Director of Esports, put it when tweeting that they would not be used at the upcoming ECS finals.

DreamHack join the list of TO's not using the new agents

One day after FACEIT, ESL issued a similar statement, also via Twitter, aligning themselves with ECS and the CSPPA in not allowing the new agents to be used in their tournaments for the time being.

DreamHack have now come out and joined the aforementioned tournament organizers in banning the new agents at DreamHack Open Winter, which is set to take place from November 29th to December 1st in Jönkoping, Sweden, and where the new patch will be in play.

The Swedish tournament organizer also stated they will monitor the developments surrounding these new player models ahead of DreamHack Open Sevilla, the last stop in the Open tour this year which is slated to take place mid-December.

very good tbh
2019-11-25 16:51
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4 replies
model skins have no place in pro cs
2019-11-25 16:52
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#82
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United States Virgin Islands ProfNori
it have place but must be the exact same size as the original models + visibility improvement
2019-11-25 20:08
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#83
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany w00t_m8
What? There should definitely be new models from time to time. But after they got released, CSPPA, organizers and Valve should come together and discuss improvements on that model(s) if there are any visibility issues or whatever.
2019-11-25 20:10
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#124
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Ireland Dazzy2k
Yea but valve often don’t listen to the pros that’s why the csppa is advising TO’s to ban them bc they now Valve will take ages to adjust them
2019-11-26 18:16
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#2
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Russia amc20
Good
2019-11-25 16:51
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#3
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Turkey xxxjet3
Expected no models in pro scene
2019-11-25 16:52
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1 reply
+1
2019-11-25 20:30
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nice
2019-11-25 16:52
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#6
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Jimpphat | 
Finland DodgeChallenger
nice
2019-11-25 16:52
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Cool
2019-11-25 16:53
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kkkkkk
2019-11-25 16:53
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#11
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Georgia Broozman
good decision
2019-11-25 16:53
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good
2019-11-25 16:53
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#13
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Finland JooonsMO
YES I my eyes wont bleed while watching these matches!!! (Volvo remove agents)
2019-11-25 16:55
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Agents should never be enabled, but perhaps maybe they do for one tournament so the pros can show valve how broken they are. Imagine agents at the major
2019-11-25 16:56
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They will be at the major, if valve is involved
2019-11-25 17:21
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7 replies
This would be harious lmao
2019-11-25 17:36
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1 reply
#84
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mika | 
Sweden tubewoody
tragic
2019-11-25 20:15
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There might end up being a gentlemrn's agreement not to use them
2019-11-25 17:54
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4 replies
#61
Faceit premium user Faceit level 9  | 
steel | 
Armenia Imissexoptic
yeah problaby big will be agreed to not use them but still abuse them anyways if they can qualify for it tho xD
2019-11-25 18:45
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#87
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
valde | 
Finland Juvi
Wouldnt be surprised =D
2019-11-25 20:28
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#98
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Brazil |witcher|
+1
2019-11-25 22:22
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+1
2019-11-26 01:48
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Agents will 100% be coming to majors. Theyll have team agents with their logos on them. But since the pros will use them then they will have to be basically the default skins with just a small logo otherwise teams with bright logos would stand out too much
2019-11-26 02:54
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#17
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Finland Smoonah
good. fucking shit update anyway
2019-11-25 17:01
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#72
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
mika | 
Sweden tubewoody
Krieg nerf and galil/famas buff was nice
2019-11-25 19:15
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2 replies
#73
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Finland Smoonah
except that, rest is shit.
2019-11-25 19:19
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#78
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Russia cynestar
i like the missions and maps they’re fun
2019-11-25 19:58
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good thing, eventho i wouldnt mind if they added a setting like in CS:S that you could choose which models to use on either team
2019-11-25 17:02
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#41
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lynxi | 
Sweden lyNxiiii
always used that command in 1.6 cl_minmodels 1
2019-11-25 17:45
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yea didnt remember if it was a thing in 1.6 too
2019-11-25 17:50
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expected valve, please fix
2019-11-25 17:04
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#23
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China SwooksarV2
Smh pussy event organizers afraid of change.
2019-11-25 17:09
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They don't care , it's more about players.
2019-11-25 17:11
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They should tweak the models. If cs 1.6 could be competitive with 8 different models so can csgo.
2019-11-25 17:12
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#28
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Destroyer | 
Other Marauder_
leet crew master race
2019-11-25 17:14
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1 reply
Leet crew and gsg-9 were my favorites.
2019-11-25 17:17
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#67
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Switzerland wdf am u want
imagine not using cl_minmodels 1
2019-11-25 19:02
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1 reply
+1
2019-11-26 01:00
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ok boomer
2019-11-25 17:13
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Good
2019-11-25 17:20
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fortunately those guys know better what cs is about than its developers
2019-11-25 17:23
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bad idea long term. More skins = more viewers especially from games like Fortnite.
2019-11-25 17:43
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It's Valve's job to make it so that players only see their teammates' character skins. That way the models could be used without them affecting gameplay.
2019-11-25 17:59
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#55
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United States TheViggs
Agreed, I don't mind aesthetic things like this but I've heard some models are just invisible in certain situations. If it only affected your team and you saw defaults for the other team I think that's a good compromise.
2019-11-25 18:31
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why it should be part of gameplay? different model with different + and -
2019-11-25 18:42
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I believe it's only short term, until valve is able to truly fix them Which could be long term hahaha
2019-11-25 19:09
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#42
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Netherlands PasscaLl
How it shoould be
2019-11-25 17:46
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#48
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Czech Republic cortan
What bout cache?
2019-11-25 18:08
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#66
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Finland JHdash77
What about it
2019-11-25 18:58
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#50
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Other TheAwakening
> however we’re banning the newly added player models, per the recommendation of the @CSPPAgg Gj.
2019-11-25 18:15
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+1, some bugs to be fixed by the developers!
2019-11-25 18:25
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I am also a disabled agent.
2019-11-25 18:34
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#62
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steel | 
Armenia Imissexoptic
congratulations valve you did it you crazy son of a bitch
2019-11-25 18:46
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If the uniform the skin agent is using has the same color as the original models, why not??? Like Michael Syfers with the FBI models , IMO it´s OK But using 2 times mccoy, would be not
2019-11-25 18:55
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Good
2019-11-25 18:57
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#68
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden Lindhan
Dreamhack > all
2019-11-25 19:04
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#71
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mika | 
Sweden tubewoody
Amazing news
2019-11-25 19:13
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#74
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Denmark Mojazu
Pay to win player models should not have been added to the game. You should at least have an option to turn them off.
2019-11-25 19:27
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#86
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Brazil praxedes
Pay to win it's a bit of a stretch for a cosmetic skin, don't you think? Even though there might be some visibility differences, I wouldn't call it "pay to win"
2019-11-25 20:22
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#93
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Sri Lanka kvezee
pay to win like in real life, why not
2019-11-25 21:11
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Lol you make it seem like these are game changing. Theres one or two tiny spots where it makes a difference and half the time they're off angles in the open and you would show up on radar. Cs scene is full of drama queens, most models seem to be more visible to me
2019-11-26 02:56
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Good decision fuck valve
2019-11-25 19:40
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Nice
2019-11-25 20:02
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#92
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Serbia nocturnSRB
Nice, good decision, now pay the money you owe to hosts
2019-11-25 20:57
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#97
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Slovakia EvErisT
omg, why ? >:(
2019-11-25 21:46
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#100
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Europe LoookATme
BECAUSE ITS NOT FUCKING FORTNITE
2019-11-25 22:44
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lulzzz
2019-11-26 01:48
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Fantastic news!
2019-11-25 22:44
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good
2019-11-25 22:47
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#103
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North America ClassyOne
2019-11-25 23:43
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#108
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Norway Bigg1
they did such a good job with th sg and galil/famas, why did valve screw up with those new models, at least let players disable for competetive.
2019-11-26 02:13
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They honestly barely make a difference....
2019-11-26 02:57
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#112
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Norway Bigg1
have only seen a few clips, and dont play at a high level myself. but the clips i have seen seem like they camuflage alot.
2019-11-26 03:59
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#114
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Germany LANDWHALE
Dude your mind gets used to the standard models on different maps, a new colour takes longer to process and thus you react more slowly. Also the old models were perfectly fitted for every maps colour scheme, that's all out the window now
2019-11-26 06:37
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#113
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Hong Kong TROIIDA
Thank you, fuck this fortnite shit!
2019-11-26 04:55
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u mean h1z1 or pubg u only mention fortnite becuz u play fortnite to much wow bad.
2019-11-26 08:28
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#126
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Hong Kong TROIIDA
they're all fortnite?
2019-12-01 09:56
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#117
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Spain maxthunderclown
i don't see why the outrage, you already had different agents in 1.6, the only difference is that you didn't have to pay to use them, imo they should make them free in a year or so to balance the game
2019-11-26 11:49
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NICE. Screw the new agents really
2019-11-26 12:33
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#119
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ropz | 
Latvia `DinGo
fair play
2019-11-26 14:06
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#123
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flusha | 
China kingofx
i don't like those skins either. but i think maybe we can take "CL_MINMODELS 1" back to solve this problem. also give ppl some choices
2019-11-26 17:03
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