ESL bans Diodel for 2 years

Electronic Sports Leagues have disqualified iGamerz from the upcoming fourth season of Extreme Masters.

The French team secured a spot for Qualification Round 2, by their performance in the French ESL Pro Series. The team have however today been disqualified and will not be playing the qualification match and will miss out the chance to qualify for Extreme Masters season four.

iGamerz have been disqualified due to Rodolphe "Diodel" Verloës being caught cheating in an official ESL match. Verloës received 12 penalty points for his acts, which means he will be barred from playing in any ESL activities for 2 years. 

The team has also been removed from ESL Pro Series France, where the team had qualified for the playoffs (which will be played online). Due to the team being disqualified in Extreme Masters, the French team of dimension4, will move from Qualification Round 1 to 2. eXootia will take the spot in the Qualification Round 1 (facing UK team Virtuoso). In ESL Pro Series iGamerz will be replaced by oXmoze (former emuLate), who failed to qualify first hand.
HAHA diodel cheater
2009-09-18 17:37
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Morocco paaaN
Sucks !
2009-09-18 17:39
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#3
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Poland rotflcopter
In ESL Pro Series the team will be replaced by oXmoze. Yeah!
2009-09-18 17:39
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Ukraine *2Drake
ahahahahha O_O
2009-09-18 17:43
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Greece wStyx
wh?
2009-09-18 17:43
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France souled
yeh. his mates (not iG of course) were worse. And his opponent... still worse..
2009-09-18 17:48
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Chile REEAAL
AHAHHAAHHA LOL !
2009-09-18 17:44
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Portugal Sweet Kill
hahahahahah CAtch you CHEATER.... oXmoze nice team go go go HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LMAO
2009-09-18 17:45
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Poland kuman
fuck cheaters :)
2009-09-18 17:46
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#9
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United States FODDER
Wow... what a joke. He should be permantly banned. :/ Was iGamerz harbouring him the entire time or did they really not realize he was cheating?
2009-09-18 17:47
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#14
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World antow
he has been caught one time cheating in a mixteam ESL tournament, i dont think he cheated when he was playing for iGamerz since he played a lot of offline event.
2009-09-18 17:54
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France gOrdiii
That's the first time he cheated during an official match. The funny thing is that the iGamerz team is dead and Diodel left "progaming" right after the French national cup in june. Esport-Eu was supposed to get the EM slot. And the new team Qwerty (with some former iGamerz like loduN and drizzer) was supposed to get the EPS slot. Basically, Diodel fucked 10 guys (4 of them are his former iG teammates), just because he was angry to be owned by nonames during a lame online summer ESL cup and activated a wallhack during one side. I think that he deserved a big GG !
2009-09-18 17:54
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#19
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United States FODDER
Wow thats pretty shameful and a really low level to stick to for some cheap payback. :/
2009-09-18 17:58
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#37
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Netherlands sundertw
arent you the BIGGEST hax0r of america? read allot about you at gotfrag NERD
2009-09-18 18:46
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#45
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United States FODDER
Nope. Was ages ago. I made a mistake but I've done everything in my power to correct it ever since(attending LANs, giving back to the community, etc.)
2009-09-18 19:08
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#47
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Finland TriLogic
Any teeth left after lans?
2009-09-18 19:11
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#58
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United States FODDER
Nope! Thankfully not. :D But I did get a cupcake from some random girl who was there. :O
2009-09-18 19:59
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#100
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Norway Pudding
Okey, you're the one talking about him deserving a permanent ban, when you yourself have been wanting forgiveness after you got caught cheating yourself. Irony is a bitch.
2009-09-18 21:36
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#106
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United States FODDER
I was never caught. I admitted to it and I stopped ages ago. And it was never in a league or competitive event. Only in late night scrims when we got a pug when we asked for a team, talked trash, etc.
2009-09-18 21:56
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#107
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Norway Pudding
Aight my mistake, but looking at it I still see the irony.
2009-09-18 21:59
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Sweden twice666
Indeed-_-
2011-04-30 10:58
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#128
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United States mah9
you attended one LAN in florida you loser, and you did mediocre at best. And you've never played in a league online, so you never had the chance. stop talking like you have done anything in this game. And im talking about minuscule things, like playing CAL. gotfrag.com/cs/forums/thread/368628/ Please enjoy.
2009-09-18 23:04
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Netherlands AK^ WOEHOE
www.gotfrag.com/cs/forums/thread/368628/
2009-09-18 23:57
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LOOK WHOZ TALKING BOUT CHEATING!!! LMAO
2009-09-19 09:55
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Brazil Mith'
This is shameful :(
2009-09-18 17:49
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North Macedonia VENU5
lol retard!
2009-09-18 17:50
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Denmark Danny D3
Diodel: gladius.is.free.fr/images/diodel_the_extraterrestrial.JPG
2009-09-18 17:56
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Mexico Jessica Alba
ahah :D
2009-09-18 19:45
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#117
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Portugal kHOOO
LOL awesome dude...let's make fun of this "noob" :D
2009-09-18 22:25
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Ukraine dnay.zevvs
LOL
2009-09-18 22:32
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#17
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Switzerland B!gApple
Demo : aaa.opus-hosting.com/perso_maccoy/Diodel_cheat.rar (Godric[Laetitia]Sosooo = Diodel)
2009-09-18 17:57
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France souled
www.team-aaa.com/news-14818-0-1-le_compte_de_diodel_verrouille_en_esl.html website in french, click on >> TELECHARGER LA DEMO DU MATCH << to download.
2009-09-18 17:58
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#21
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United States FODDER
Thanks. I'm going to check it out when I get out of class. :/
2009-09-18 17:59
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#22
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France souled
you will see: he is really not the worst cheater of the match, and turned his cheat on at the beginning of the 2nd side only but anyway... it was stupid
2009-09-18 18:03
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#23
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United States FODDER
Yeah fighting fire with fire isn't worth it. :/ Its best to just keep your composure after a match and calmly file a dispute on the player you believe is cheating. Not cheat back. -_-
2009-09-18 18:05
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Denmark dubb
/rofl @ FODDER
2009-09-19 20:14
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Romania fancccc
H@H@HH@H@H@H@HH@H@H@H@HH@H@ pwneeeeeeeeeeeed
2009-09-18 18:05
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#25
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Portugal kamachi
Man for a pro team that's a really dumb thing to do and a disrispect 2 the other 4 players .. what a shame ..
2009-09-18 18:06
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#26
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United States FODDER
Yeah but people's emotions just get the best of them sometimes. Two wrongs don't make a right but morality isn't something thats innate to a person. It takes some self-control but I guess Diodel wanted payback too badly to restrain himself from cheating.
2009-09-18 18:11
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France klwN
lol France sucks so much when it comes to cheats. I know, cheaters are everywhere but we are especially "gifted" in that particular area, it's almost like a religion out here... I hate that, and using this in an ESL match just let two words left to define yourself: huge moron. lol, this is Diodel guys: aaa.opus-hosting.com/perso_maccoy/diodel.jpg
2009-09-18 18:18
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#68
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China sakulaZhou
u r not alone, there are even more cheaters,16bits players play on internet in china
2009-09-18 20:25
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Romania TRS1906
lawl that's rly him? u'r f*** kidding me? :D
2009-09-18 21:14
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France klwN
I swear it's him xD
2009-09-18 21:15
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Romania TRS1906
He looks like a boy scout with a fishing hat LOL :D
2009-09-18 21:44
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Ukraine dnay.zevvs
hahah lOL it's garry potter xD
2009-09-18 22:34
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as a penalty, they should have rip his head off.. and in future.. no player will dare to hack in competitive events -_-
2009-09-18 18:21
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#30
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United States FODDER
In Egypt they cut off the hands of theives! :O
2009-09-18 18:23
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#137
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France Rerel
not only in Egypt :P
2009-09-19 00:06
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#144
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United States FODDER
What? They do that in other places too? :P
2009-09-19 01:10
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#145
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Pakistan LethaL~
in saudia arabia too :)
2009-09-19 01:24
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#146
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United States FODDER
Whoa. Didn't know that. :P
2009-09-19 01:33
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His teammates must be definitely happy about this. Hope in 2 years you will be a better example for the French CS community Diodel.
2009-09-18 18:22
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#32
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United States FODDER
I have a pretty good idea on what might stop cheating and also help leagues out. When I get home from class I'll put make an article on it on the one and only HLTV.org! But basically the idea flying through my head right now is leagues should conviscate computers under an agreement that they have the right to do so if you compete in their leagues, qualifiers, etc. Then if someone is found cheating they lose their computer, and it can be given away randomly to a random person in the league in a drawing or just pawned off somewhere and make some extra cash for the league. :P That'd show those cheaters. :)
2009-09-18 18:32
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#34
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Ukraine lancee
bullshit
2009-09-18 18:37
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That would be the beginning of a underground computer rental boom believe me :P It is a pity that people can not just play fair.
2009-09-18 18:40
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France souled
he quit cs. he says that it's the reason that made him cheat, he wanted to play for the fun of it, got bored to see the other team cheating and activated a wh to "punish" them . but yeh i'm sure they're pleased by this all ^^
2009-09-18 18:34
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Fine he quits, but others (his team) pay for his stupidity. Out of EPS France, no chance to qualify for EM... They, definitely, will be pleased.
2009-09-18 18:50
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Portugal proak
lol...what a shame.
2009-09-18 18:27
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Morocco refug^
I knew it they were too good
2009-09-18 18:43
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Portugal trusttt
FAIL!
2009-09-18 18:50
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#40
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Colombia PedMar
ventrilo.exe on lans :(
2009-09-18 18:51
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#41
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Romania MaFy-
knew it from pracctice with them last week.
2009-09-18 18:52
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#44
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France souled
really? against who? Diodel has currently no team, he just played this match as a stand in
2009-09-18 19:07
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#42
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Estonia yodawg
cd hack ?
2009-09-18 18:54
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#48
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Finland TriLogic
cdhack is pretty lame lol
2009-09-18 19:11
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#50
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Estonia yodawg
rly ?
2009-09-18 19:13
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#62
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Portugal maniaKKK
LOL, they don't use random cheats, but private ones :)
2009-09-18 20:11
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#43
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Israel selukvey
wtff? Cheats in ESL, What A sHAME-
2009-09-18 19:06
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#51
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Estonia realreal
What has the world come to ?
2009-09-18 19:27
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#46
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Estonia realreal
my father works for vac. I should tell him and this guy will get vac banned !
2009-09-18 19:10
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#49
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Finland TriLogic
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2009-09-18 19:11
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#55
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United Kingdom nuga-dA-kINg
wtf ?:D
2009-09-18 19:42
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#59
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United States FODDER
Why did that make me laugh? :P
2009-09-18 20:00
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#52
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Poland dvrs
Kuben was cheating too and he is still good anyway
2009-09-18 19:29
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#60
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France souled
to be good at cs is not incompatible with being a moron
2009-09-18 20:06
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#63
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United States FODDER
Thats true. Two wrongs don't make a right. And 1,000 players mimicking a pro's mistake doesn't make it any righter. :/
2009-09-18 20:13
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#67
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France souled
and?
2009-09-18 20:23
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#72
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United States FODDER
No, I'm just saying I agree with you. :P
2009-09-18 20:28
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#73
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France souled
oh ok, i was not sure what you meant ^^
2009-09-18 20:33
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#53
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Estonia amuse
Aequitas detected immunity or wtflol?
2009-09-18 19:38
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#54
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Estonia yodawg
i must update my hack, dont wanna get caught aswell.
2009-09-18 19:42
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#57
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Russia HOLESTRUCTION
good job ESL:D
2009-09-18 19:52
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#61
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Portugal maniaKKK
You fail, esl owned you, GG!
2009-09-18 20:10
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#64
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United States FODDER
Amen. :)
2009-09-18 20:13
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#65
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Portugal kHOOO
noob.
2009-09-18 20:19
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#66
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Italy sedat'10
i dont understand how do they get on this conclusion :D
2009-09-18 20:21
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#71
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China sakulaZhou
maybe his friends betrayed him?
2009-09-18 20:27
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France Rerel
with demos maybe ...
2009-09-19 00:09
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#69
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Germany CALM_BAITER
French are known as the biggest cheaters in Europe. 2nd place deservedly goes to Finland :)
2009-09-18 20:25
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#76
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Estonia yodawg
lol? finland ? I think theres nothing to argue that germans are the biggest cheaters. 30% of ger enemys sb uses wh. And to prove my argument, there are many cheating realated websites in german (and english) I wont give examples just for case :)
2009-09-18 20:38
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#81
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Germany CALM_BAITER
Finland maybe even top France. Germans are 3rd placed :)
2009-09-18 20:47
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#93
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Belgium kridele
You sir, are absolutely right! :D
2009-09-18 21:23
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#70
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Yugoslavia zglgrgd
Have you watched the demo? I had. Screenshot (aaa.opus-hosting.com/perso_maccoy/dioscrn.jpg) on this link (www.team-aaa.com/news-14818-0-1-le_compte_de_diodel_verrouille_en_esl.html )which proves that he has cheat isn't good reason for ban him.. Look at the moments while hi is jumping to see the site A: i33.tinypic.com/2z908ko.jpg i33.tinypic.com/28ajjiq.jpg He has a good view of CT model there. I mean that wasn't cheat. At least in that situation..
2009-09-18 20:26
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#75
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France souled
he cheated only during the T side. And no need to prove it, he admitted it on aaa-team's forum and shown us how of a moron he is
2009-09-18 20:45
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Romania chns
hes a moron because he cheated not because he admitted
2009-09-19 18:58
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#175
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France souled
no i meant the way he talk shown us what a moron he is. Ozstriker (millenium's leader) told him what he thought about cheating, and diodel answered sth lame about oz wanting him instead of sixer in M, and instead of nota in france's lu.
2009-09-19 21:14
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Portugal weym0-
right
2009-09-18 20:40
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#82
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Turkey huth
In that round and that position I can see the enemy for 1-1.5 second. But if he agree that he cheated, I can't say anything against him.
2009-09-18 20:56
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#74
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
People tend to say fuck cheaters and I have never cheated and never will and blablabla, but it's one of the best ways to improve your game. Many pros have used cheats and admited, and many pros have used cheats and never talked about it. It doesn't hurt to try cheats, you should try cheats because it can be really helpful for your skill. What hurts is using cheats in professional competitions, and that imo should be a permanent ban. VAC's policy is just a way to make money. People get banned, they buy/steal another account. Imagine death penalty to anyone that steals a chocolate. Anyway, vac and most anti-cheats suck, so do whatever you want, keep flaming cheaters, but remember most people have cheated. And by most I say way over 50%. So my point is: Cheaters are not morons, people that crucify any kind of cheater are morons themselves. Bans should be different for different kinds of cheaters
2009-09-18 20:33
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#78
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France souled
when u cheat, u r not just breaking the rule, you're bothering all of the players who have to play against you, and if you don't care about that then you are a moron. Vac's (inefficient) policy is just a way to limit the problem, u can't compare buying a new account with death penalty
2009-09-18 20:44
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#88
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
Well the account dies off... I wasn't comparing the seriousness, sorry if it didn't get through as I wanted (I understand why it wouldn't) Cheating doesn't have to bother the players who have to play against you, if you're even near intelligent they won't notice you are cheating even if they are specing you. Decent players tend to be called cheaters no matter if they are cheating or not. Valve's policy doesn't limit the problem, noone stops cheating because of it because it's not efficient. There are dozens of free indetectable cheats at any time of the year, so imagine the private ones. You only get vac banned if you want. Another advantage to trying cheats: It will be dead easy to spot cheaters. Most youtube videos in which people always comment: "That's normal. I have done that etc. etc." are many times obvious cheating. Just to make it clear: I'm not for cheaters and I don't like cheating. I'm just saying you shouldn't crucify or stereotype cheaters (which is what I see in many thread, not this one because this for me deserves a life ban of the player), because there are various kinds of cheating. One thing is to cheat occasionally to master spam spots and to understand how the other players hide behind cover, which you won't unless you watch many many many demos and spend hours with a mate on the server trying out spots. Another thing is to cheat yourself to victory in a professional competition, which involves money and serious life goals of other people. Ruining those serious goals is, for me, being a moron. Occasionaly disguised cheating in casual playing is, for me, acceptable.
2009-09-18 21:15
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#96
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France souled
what a novel! even if a cheater isn't spotted using his cheat, it <I>is</I> bothering, since a guy who should win loses. u know, now when i play on internet servers, i have as a reflex to act as if i'm going to show up, but quickly come back, just to see if someone on the other side of a wall/door is waiting for me with a cheat, and regularly, u hear a shot right at the moment when should have been visible, so yes, it <I>is </I>bothering. Even non-professional players have paid the game, and it's a right to play normally even if they don't dedicate their life to the game for the wallbangs: no need to play ffa, each time i want to find one, i can either: watch a hltv and use the free view to move through the walls; or asking a friend/teammate to join an empty/my server to find it without bothering casual players
2009-09-18 21:37
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#101
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
You don't need to have the wallhack turned on all the time. If they fall for that trick you describe they are stupid cheaters, and are definitly cheating to get more frags. I'm just defending that cheating can be helpful for your skill as a player, is it that I'm the only one thinking so? If not used regularly, it won't hurt your aim, it won't hurt your reflexes, it will drasticly improve your spam spot knowladge and your awareness of the game. for the wallbangs: in hltv/server you will not get as much knowladge on where the players are, how they move and exactly where to wallbang in all the places they might hide. Even if you watch hltv with cheats, you won't be able to practice straight away. I know it's not the only way to practice wallbangs and you can know them as well as a cheater without cheating. But cheating enables you to learn in 10 minutes what you might take 1 month to learn without cheating.
2009-09-18 21:47
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#110
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France souled
if you use it as a tool and don't bother anyone ok, but this mustn't be done on public servers or during a match (even at pracc). U know, calling a friend, telling him to place everywhere you want to find a spot and just trying it bothers no one, and works faster than cheating on a ffa since you can change the roundtime and try as long as you will. i wasn't saying to watch the pros shooting on hltv, but to navigate through the walls by yourself to find the spots. anyway, the most precious thing for wallbangs is not knowledge, it is... a good headset ^^ just seek your ennemy with the sound, try to shoot, and then wallbangs ability comes naturaly
2009-09-18 22:06
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#111
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United States FODDER
Actually wall hacks(used when you are alone of course) really help a player develop a sense of depth perception. It isn't as simple as following the sound behind the wall. Especially at different elevations. :P
2009-09-18 22:09
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#116
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France souled
i agree, and actually that's what i said, i just said that wallhack should be used on an empty server with a friend who's aware you're cheating, and came to help you with your wallbangs. ofc sometimes you have to spray every possible spots before coming into a bombsite for example, and you can't do if your opponents are silent. but this is not what i call cheating since no one is really bothered by this
2009-09-18 22:21
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#113
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
That wallbang ability will come way faster if you cheat in public server during a short period of time, and it's a whole lot easier than doing it with a mate. I'm just saying this because of this kind of situation: Imagine a friend of yours gets vac banned and he is known to be an inet king. People would crucify him instantly, he would be made fun of for a long time. And many people don't realise there is a kind of pub/pug cheating that will not make you kill more people while cheating (it will most likely make you kill less people than if you were not cheating = you won't bother anyone, you would frag/win more if you were not cheating), but will make you smarter and a much better player when you turn the cheats off.
2009-09-18 22:14
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#118
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France souled
it's hard to be vac-banned, if u have to find a cheat for "educational" purpose (i did it, i won't blame you; i just didn't do it on public servers, or servers vac-secured (i also cheated on public servers non-secured to see what kind of attitude reveal a cheater (turning the head by reflex when you see but don't hear a flash...))), u obviously check it's not detected, only fools are vac-banned. anyway, i still think it's better to learn more slowly than to bother everyone for that (OMG never seen so many replies in a row, we must stop here ^^')
2009-09-18 22:28
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#119
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United States FODDER
No what I mean is HLAE is VAC detected. So I was just telling everyone to not get any shady ideas about using them in scrims, matches, etc. :P
2009-09-18 22:32
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#125
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France souled
and i agree with that :p
2009-09-18 22:44
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#85
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Portugal kHOOO
Now..at least in Portugal servers, if you cheat you don't got banned anyway.
2009-09-18 21:00
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If you refer to public servers, well, nowadays it is not like in the past where you could meet, have fun and also improve your skills. Even if the server does have admins it is funny (I think it is as it happens from time to time) to see that there are cheaters and the one who ends up banned is not cheating at all. Or admins present while cheaters are present and they are busy with Steam Chat, MSN etc. And if the cheaters are friends of the server's clan, you can imagine what you can expect. There are even server admins cheating! xD
2009-09-18 21:16
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#95
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Portugal kHOOO
Yeh..i also do mixs and PCW's with my friends. But when I go to a public server it sucks at all -.-
2009-09-18 21:30
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#94
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
Noone gets banned anywhere in the world if they are careful
2009-09-18 21:27
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I do not see the point where cheats help a player to be more skillfull. I mean, aimbot a program aims for you, autoshoot a program starts shooting as soon it detects an enemy also for you, wallhack a program that shows you something you are not supposed to see. On the contrary, it will make you play worse as you will not be able to use those "extras". And I agree with Bodom Child, you are bothering other players, even on pubs, who just want to play and have fun, and at a competitive level have trained hard if they take it seriously. And those players do not care if you are bored, think/know that other player(s) is/are cheating.
2009-09-18 21:04
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#92
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China sakulaZhou
somehow i think that alot of wallbangs are found by using wallhack thing :)
2009-09-18 21:22
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Might be possible :) But, as far as I know, there are too maps that feature the wallbang parts transparent. I personally do watch from time to time the wallbang videos that are available and also try some on my own (admins - 'wh spotted' xD) especially if using a category 4 weapon (besides the deagle).
2009-09-18 21:34
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#147
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Romania TRS1906
Yeah, wh_nuke, wh_inferno, etc. Google is everyones friend :)
2009-09-19 01:33
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#99
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
There's one advantage.
2009-09-18 21:34
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#97
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
I have cheated and I consider myself a lot better than many semi-pro players when it comes to knowing where the enemy is without seeing them without cheating. I know spam spots almost perfectly, and most players don't. Irregular cheating won't hurt your aim too much and won't even hurt your reflexes if used well When it comes to cheating I'm talking about box ESP. I don't consider other kinds of cheating any helpful You probably didn't see my second comment, I don't think you have to bother other people while pub cheating, you can disguise it preety well and still get advantage of it. You can turn the cheat on and off whenever you want, you can have it turned on to see how they behave behind walls and turn it off to accurately simulate your own reflexes. I'm not refering to random pub cheaters that pre-shoot, I'm not defending the kind of cheating stated in this news. I hope people don't get me wrong, I'm just saying cheating can be profitable and that you are not an idiot just because your cheated here and there, which is what most people think.
2009-09-18 21:34
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But in the end you are still using an external program to achieve something that other players have done through experience, practice and playing a lot. It is as if you are saying that you can lift heavy weights due to using from time to time steroids and perform better than others that do the same or closest possible but have achieved it without short cuts. That way you are cheating others and even yourself.
2009-09-18 21:45
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#105
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
Well, if the use of steroids only affects your practice and won't change your results in competition I have nothing against it. If it affects any part of the competitive side of weightlifting, I'm against it. The analogy you use makes no sense to me. It would only apply to what I'm saying if steroids helped you to know where to place your hands in the bar. (I hope you get what I'm saying, I'm all for cheating as a tool[the best one available] to learn spamspots/gain awareness of the game. I'm against cheating as a way to play better than other while cheating) If I can learn something in 1 hour that other players have learned in 3 months without bothering anyone or myself, I don't think that makes me a moron, and that's how I see it.
2009-09-18 21:54
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The steroids are obviously meant to increase muscle mass faster and not to know how to place the hands on the bar ;) And in terms of CS this can be applied to increasing your aim (aimbot), view (wh), reaction time (autoshoot) etc. But here in the end we are discussing about someone that did want to take advantage of other players by using a cheat in a competitive environment which you agree to be against. And, as the action of cheating does not only affect this player but also his teammates who I presume wanted to play in EPS France and try to qualify for EM etc. And I understand that by ruining these expectations he can be seen as being a moron.
2009-09-18 22:14
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#115
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
You are not getting my point. I'm not commenting this situation, I think he deserves to get a life ban. I know steroid increse your muscle/fitness, that's why I think your comparison was invalid because I wasn't talking about aimbot/wallhack/whatever. I'm talking about using box ESP while your enemy is far from you. I'm talking about turning off cheats whenever you have to shoot. I'm refering to cheating so you observe how players play, not to get any kind of advantage while fragging. I got to go know, I would like to keep this friendly argument :P
2009-09-18 22:19
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You seriously consider fair being able to observe another player and that player not being able to do the same? ::) You do indeed get an advantange in fragging because you know where the players are. Yes, you do not shoot at them immediately but just x minutes later xD You learn how a player moves while spectating him/her. That is why some players instead of joining a team right away, they first spend some rounds as spectators. And in a competitive environment watching demos. As to me, if you take an advantage against another player through illegal means, it is unfair :) And if you think it is right because it "shortens" your learning curve, well, if so you would have to use those cheats against every single player out there in order to know how he/she moves. And makes you just one more of the wallhackers out there (as aimbots are nowadays too obvious, just like the speedhacks) :P
2009-09-18 22:52
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#177
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
I don't think cheating is fair... It is obviously unfair. I just think that if one cheats once or twice in some random pub for 10 minutes it doesn't make him a jerk or a moron and definitly isn't a reason for him to get cancer and die (And the majority of the community thinks so)
2009-09-20 22:57
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#160
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Finland misvihu
firstable you probably dont understand what an analogy is because the one he used made perfect sense. secondable you are just a sad little cheater who needs to take short cuts because the _honest_ way is just too hard for you. and yes i do understand what you are trying to say and i agree cheating might help you develop faster but cheating is still cheating. the game obviously was made to be played without. what part of that you dont understand? you should stop before you embarrass yourself more than you already have. (sorry for being mean)
2009-09-19 10:57
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#178
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
I don't even play cs, so the "You are a sad cheater" point is quite unnecessary. His analogy was completely unrelated to what I was trying to say. He was talking about cheating in order to win, I'm talking about trying cheats in order to learn. If you can't see the difference, then you don't understand the purposes of analogies I don't think you should cheat, I think it is ok to TRY cheats in some random pub so you can see what it's like. I don't see how thinking this embarasses myself, please enlighten me
2009-09-20 23:03
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#158
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Greece kotsis
~Just try playing with Wallhack for a month and then go to a tournament. You will see the difference..
2009-09-19 10:35
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#176
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
You either don't understand english or your IQ is very low.
2009-09-20 22:54
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1 reply
No need to be that rude. Thank you.
2009-09-20 23:07
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#79
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Latvia h3ro1n
whats the point to cheat? any way you will not play better than , you play now and maybe you play online like a king , but at lan - n000t.
2009-09-18 20:45
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#108
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United States FODDER
Using hacks for educational purposes when you are on a private LAN server are useful for developing certain aspects of your playstyle and seeing the quirks of the game in a new light. Wall hacks are very useful for gaining a better sense of depth perception and opening your awareness of the different spam spots and angles encompassing them. Spam spot maps are nice but this one program(VAC detected so don't get any ideas guys...) called HLAE(Half-Life After Effects) which is typically used for movie making has a nice feature which lets you literally see from spawn to spawn through every wall in the map. But as far as hacks go in scrims, matches, etc. it is a terrible idea and nobody should ever resort to that. Not even for payback like Diodel tried to do in this match.
2009-09-18 22:03
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#159
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kendo | 
Latvia kendo-
word
2009-09-19 10:45
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#180
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Kyrgyzstan eKlipSe
I tried to say that but i got flammed :(
2009-09-20 23:07
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#80
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Germany Steef
omg he can now del cs 1.6
2009-09-18 20:46
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#83
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United Kingdom Bullseye2k
N-O-O-B What a dumbass...
2009-09-18 20:58
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#91
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Poland ridds
kuben from ex-mym also had wh, but he wrote an essay to ESL and they unbanned him :-)) It was '06 as I remember.
2009-09-18 21:17
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#154
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Bulgaria skylamer
ajhahahahahahahahaha
2009-09-19 09:44
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#164
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World listener
yeah, right :/ w/e
2009-09-19 13:18
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#104
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Sweden ribbann
Good job, there are surely PLENTY more to catch!
2009-09-18 21:53
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#109
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Morocco skamz
worst part of the story is that he says "i've been top2.fr, and top9/16 world, so i don't have to explain myself, yes i cheated, and you would be supriseed if u knew all the cheaters in france's top"...it's so funny how even the top can be so immature...
2009-09-18 22:04
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#112
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United States FODDER
Yeah its downright shameful. n0thing used to cheat but he has long since corrected that mistake and now he is one of the best players in North America if not the world. Hopefully Diodel will come back and play clean from now on. :)
2009-09-18 22:11
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#133
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Brazil r4id3r
Dude close HLTV.org for 2 seconds, stop F5 button and get some life...
2009-09-18 23:24
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#134
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United States FODDER
I love E-sports and it is my life. :)
2009-09-18 23:29
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#121
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China naFokiki
idiodel.
2009-09-18 22:33
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#123
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Turkey Cartman.FAT
hahahahaha cheater lol
2009-09-18 22:36
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#124
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Germany Raiden1987
really low but ok you know what cheaters have right? a small d...:D
2009-09-18 22:39
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no cheat~!>
2009-09-18 22:53
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#130
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Turkey AdiosAmigo~
goodbye.
2009-09-18 23:16
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Go home :) Fuc**** cheater oO Learn how to play idiot :D
2009-09-18 23:19
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#132
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France souled
idiot ok, but don't be silly, he rocks at lan, he knows way better than you how to play
2009-09-18 23:25
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#135
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Portugal hpn-as
wow horse face!
2009-09-18 23:39
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#138
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Slovakia bit0x
lal cheat :DDD
2009-09-19 00:06
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#140
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North America ruin577
lol wow
2009-09-19 00:16
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#141
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Chile Manumak
fucking cheat!! ban forever.
2009-09-19 00:18
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#142
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Sweden mmmmmicke
2 years? Ban him forever..
2009-09-19 00:22
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#143
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Serbia oly.
omg...
2009-09-19 00:41
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#148
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France Sinj_Gracieux
He said he had activated because his opponent were obv cheating and he didn't care since he stopped his esport career some months ago. And he played a lot of offline events where he proved he had real skill. It's a pity for his former mates. BUT, as good as he might has been he's just a fucking angry kid acting and talking like a 12 years old noob. It's quite surprising to think he played at the top with such a shit mentality & this huge lack of maturity. Hope we won't see him again because esport do not need as stupid players. And it seems that even if he did not cheat with his real team he used to do when he played mix or gather, which shows his mentality since he did not need it to win.
2009-09-19 02:09
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#149
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Spain tr0n1
hahaha CHEATER n1..OMG diodel noob
2009-09-19 03:13
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#150
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Australia brando1
I have no respect for cheaters in my words sucked in well deserved should be longer.
2009-09-19 05:24
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#152
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NOtA | 
Poland ChoseN1`
no recoil, i think
2009-09-19 08:07
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#162
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Poland huckelbery
Watch demo. Obviously wh, but maybe norecoil too.
2009-09-19 12:41
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#153
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe RLa
owned. Freaking cheater. O W N E D !
2009-09-19 09:06
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#156
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Czech Republic mbS
cheater on EPS -> permanent for these!
2009-09-19 09:56
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#157
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Portugal maniaKKK
banned for 2 years on esl, i would kill my self and maybe one day i would be back.
2009-09-19 10:03
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#161
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Denmark nsis
An idiot, whatever the reason was.
2009-09-19 11:01
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#163
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Finland Freon
f'ing french
2009-09-19 12:46
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#165
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Denmark SimB^
That's one ugly frog!
2009-09-19 13:34
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#166
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Romania rECobA
lowl, fu*king cheater :D
2009-09-19 13:48
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#167
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r
pwnt
2009-09-19 13:50
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#168
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France komOdo
i hate the stupid cheaters
2009-09-19 14:52
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#170
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Brazil RafaeL R.
ban for all chearters :D
2009-09-19 16:27
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big shame,gj ESL
2009-09-19 16:29
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#172
Faceit premium user Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United Kingdom dazoOO
x-spectate doesen't work anymore so someone upload a clip of him cheating in that demo
2009-09-19 17:08
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#181
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Brazil gu1d0
ssw ftw
2009-09-22 12:59
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#182
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Iceland alex!
ssw?
2009-09-23 19:07
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#183
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Belgium ivensch
he is awesome player . and oke he maybe has massve skill at lans, but still such a great player dont needs to CHEAT ONLINE DAMMED thats newbish
2009-09-23 19:31
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