Teams to vote on coaching rule for ESL One: Road to Rio

ESL has asked the teams who will take part in ESL One: Road to Rio about changes to the coaching eligibility rule.

In an email sent out by ESL and obtained by HLTV.org, teams have been given a 24-hour deadline to vote on the possibility of coaches being allowed in the server during the ESL One: Road to Rio tournament and talking to players "without restrictions".

This option will require the "unanimous approval of all participating teams" in the tournament. If at least one team votes against it, then coaches will not be allowed inside the game server and will not be able to speak to players during the matches.

The future of the coaching eligibility rule may be in the teams' hands

The proposal came after Valve "reviewed additional feedback on the coaching rule", the email read. In August 2016, the game developer limited the impact of a coach to pre-game warmup, half-time breaks and tactical pauses, explaining that unrestricted access would make coaches "function as a sixth player, and not solely as a source of guidance or training." The rule initially applied only to Valve-sponsored events, but other tournament organisers quickly adopted it as well.

ESL One: Road to Rio will kick off on Wednesday in Europe and in the Americas, with the CIS tournament scheduled to start on April 30, while the Asian and the Oceanic divisions will begin only on May 6. It will be held online as a result of the coronavirus pandemic and will be the second tournament to award Regional Major Rankings (RMR) points towards the ESL One Rio Major.

#1
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Germany Sonnabend
Interesting
2020-04-21 00:17
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23 replies
obviously teams without coaches will vote against
2020-04-21 00:18
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20 replies
VG?
2020-04-21 00:45
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18 replies
MIBR
2020-04-21 01:06
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13 replies
Dead is their coach
2020-04-21 01:48
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12 replies
#73
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Portugal joaosenra
dead is in role of coach but hes rolle is team manegement not coach he is just there to be a fake coach so fallen and fer keep playing as they want without annyone tell them what to do
2020-04-21 02:03
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5 replies
Dead used to play CS. He's not going to ever be the BEST coach, but he's certainly better than NOTHING.
2020-04-21 04:28
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#150
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Oceania aLEKAYYY
Dead was coaching MIBR on some events before, so defo he can do it again
2020-04-21 09:32
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1 reply
#219
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Brazil Toxic_BR
im 100% it wasnt because he was giving good strats but because the players were the best
2020-04-21 20:39
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#164
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Czech Republic VetriX_
Dead was coaching MIBR for quite some time
2020-04-21 10:27
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1 reply
Yeah but he was a fake coach. I remember even the players laugh at him "Look, our coach is watching a demo HAHAHA"
2020-04-21 21:14
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But he is not really a coach, he is their manager
2020-04-21 02:04
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I think u mean their coach is dead?
2020-04-21 09:36
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2 replies
The whole team is dead
2020-04-21 17:38
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1 reply
my man spittin facts
2020-04-21 17:45
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hello mr. Yoda
2020-04-21 18:10
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1 reply
Yoda not i am
2020-04-21 19:37
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orgless
2020-04-21 01:59
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3 replies
#163
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Germany CALM_BAITER
They are orgless not coachless
2020-04-21 10:25
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2 replies
Who is their coach then
2020-04-21 15:18
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1 reply
#207
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Germany CALM_BAITER
Taylor "Tailored" Broomall
2020-04-21 17:42
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why tf there is a veto system, its very op mens
2020-04-21 06:40
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mens))
2020-04-21 00:19
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#55
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Belgium maxydooda
This would be positive for Vitality I think
2020-04-21 01:03
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ok
2020-04-21 00:17
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vroom vroom
2020-04-21 00:17
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4 replies
beep beep
2020-04-21 02:39
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3 replies
Boop boop
2020-04-21 08:55
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2 replies
Honk Honk
2020-04-21 13:54
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1 reply
#223
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Iceland Jaksin
choo choo
2020-04-21 22:23
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#4
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United States Plactus
What stops the coaches from talking to them outside of the server? Honor code?
2020-04-21 00:17
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20 replies
+1
2020-04-21 00:19
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#20
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Mongolia konrad_
this
2020-04-21 00:29
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#22
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Brazil MARSH4LL
Because if they do that they are gay
2020-04-21 00:29
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5 replies
+1
2020-04-21 01:18
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STONKS
2020-04-21 04:28
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1 reply
BAN_ASTRALIS ?
2020-04-23 20:23
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+1
2020-04-21 04:36
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This
2020-04-21 06:33
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Who knows :/
2020-04-21 00:31
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1 reply
+1 I like Ur name
2020-04-21 07:34
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well they can't speak during game only at timeouts and freeze time i think and admin is with them on ts3 so he controls when they can hear him
2020-04-21 01:08
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2 replies
#63
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China SwooksarV2
Take off headphones and mute.
2020-04-21 01:30
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they not allowed to talk to players at all during the match
2020-04-21 15:18
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recorded comms
2020-04-21 01:33
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5 replies
#130
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Lithuania arres
You realize it is very easy to overcome any communication rule when you are at home?
2020-04-21 08:47
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4 replies
#148
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Spain N0Love
This is not just for online tournaments. Corona querantines won't last forever
2020-04-21 09:30
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1 reply
#162
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France Nogara
The vote is only for the only part of the major tho
2020-04-21 10:23
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yeah ur right, Team : "itll be okay if we just stop talking for a minute or two every once in a while, we're just tired of listening to each other" lmao edit: otherwise itll only be the coach talking to them directly into their ear and they just cant talk back,
2020-04-21 16:40
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#214
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Lithuania arres
Um... What?
2020-04-21 19:10
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It only works if they're playing from a gaming house
2020-04-21 17:39
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They should just allow it so it won't be abused
2020-04-21 00:18
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22 replies
#12
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Europe tabsens1mple0major
It's not like they can stop the coaches in online play
2020-04-21 00:20
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15 replies
#80
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United Kingdom alcazar4
they can by having admins in the teamspeak
2020-04-21 02:35
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14 replies
do you really think its going to work out?
2020-04-21 03:08
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11 replies
#99
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United Kingdom alcazar4
yeah, esl can afford admins and can easily review the teamspeak
2020-04-21 03:49
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10 replies
you are kinda naive if you think teams arent going to find how to bypass this
2020-04-21 04:00
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9 replies
#102
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United Kingdom alcazar4
have native language speakers as the admins, they can tell if any of the players talk to the coach.
2020-04-21 04:17
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8 replies
im talking more about some pre-developed ways for players to hear the coach without it being heard in teamspeak also theyd have to hire like 30 admins alone for what youve come up with, doesnt seem too easy
2020-04-21 04:31
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7 replies
#108
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United Kingdom alcazar4
players could stream their entire game privately for the admins so that all the audio the players hear (including teamspeak) to ensure no cheating.
2020-04-21 04:43
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6 replies
#115
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Finland nuhis
And coach can just stand behind them in their office (with the teams that have one) Thats the problem bud.
2020-04-21 06:39
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5 replies
#151
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Spain N0Love
So you need 5 coaches instead of 1 because he can only watch 1 player's screen
2020-04-21 09:32
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4 replies
No
2020-04-21 13:51
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2 replies
#225
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Spain N0Love
You realise not all players play in offices, right?
2020-04-22 13:28
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1 reply
You realize that they can easily make that happen right? Plus you dont need to watch all 5 to give tips/ideas
2020-04-22 21:56
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#200
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Finland nuhis
1iq
2020-04-21 15:32
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#224
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Europe tabsens1mple0major
and if the coach just stands behind the players?
2020-04-22 13:04
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1 reply
#226
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United Kingdom alcazar4
well it really doesnt matter either way, theyre allowed to talk
2020-04-22 14:07
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#30
jks | 
New Zealand ^Roo^
They might have a system where you have to record and it gets randomly audited, idk
2020-04-21 00:35
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5 replies
Yeah or simply an admin being present although all these things can be easily avoided with simple bootcamp set up
2020-04-21 00:50
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lmao are they gonna send a ESL admin to the ENCE office to make sure they dont have the coach there
2020-04-21 01:38
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2 replies
Lel don't need to send an admin to ence they won't win anyways.
2020-04-21 04:09
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1 reply
Yeah ik lmao but it was just an example
2020-04-21 14:27
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Or Just fucking allow It?
2020-04-21 09:33
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#7
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Europe tabsens1mple0major
lul
2020-04-21 00:18
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POG
2020-04-21 00:19
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EG will lose if this goes through, Stan would not be able to handle another person leading in game
2020-04-21 00:19
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7 replies
#18
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Panama bakedcs
Sad to say but EG will lose regardless
2020-04-21 00:26
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4 replies
+1
2020-04-21 00:38
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#59
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Georgia uberboy
this was even funnier than the guy above
2020-04-21 01:15
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This isn’t sad to say though. This is great news.
2020-04-21 02:53
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1 reply
#95
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Panama bakedcs
Nah Cerq and Brehze deserve to losen't *Flair and name does in fact check out
2020-04-21 03:18
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#36
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South Africa Ston3Cold
OMEGALUL!
2020-04-21 00:40
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This option will require the "unanimous approval of all participating teams" in the tournament. If at least one team votes against it, then coaches will not be allowed inside the game server and will not be able to speak to players during the matches.
2020-04-21 02:00
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#13
Faceit level 7  | 
GuardiaN | 
Europe MARK0N1
Navi from 2016 wants to have a word with u
2020-04-21 00:24
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-s1mple +seized
2020-04-21 00:24
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#15
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United States ItsImpact
FaZe guaranteed win if this happens
2020-04-21 00:25
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1 reply
#19
Faceit level 7  | 
GuardiaN | 
Europe MARK0N1
NaVi and FaZe have huge shot at winning if this happens, B1ad3 is very good at leading he can help a lot,as well as YNK,YNK is very smart and he understands the game really well.
2020-04-21 00:27
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What do you guys say: allow or dont?
2020-04-21 00:25
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3 replies
Allow!
2020-04-21 00:54
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Not sure tbh. If it makes Liquid better than yes
2020-04-21 02:53
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Yes. I think all the teams get better.
2020-04-21 16:19
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#17
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Spain Pog_chaos
"If at least one team votes against it, then coaches will not be allowed" WHAT A JOKE
2020-04-21 00:26
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7 replies
#31
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Scotland EoOo
that's how these things work
2020-04-21 00:35
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6 replies
#42
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Spain Pog_chaos
This is so dumb... ESL things Now we probably will see some teams ( at least majority of T1 ) underperform in some aspects because some random team without a coach fucked up
2020-04-21 00:47
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5 replies
liberum veto
2020-04-21 01:10
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The best team win anyway, both of the team won't have it so it doesn't really matter after all
2020-04-21 09:18
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Why should they underperform when this is the norm for tournaments?
2020-04-21 13:52
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2 replies
If it doesn’t pass then coaches don’t talk at all during a game.
2020-04-21 15:27
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1 reply
They'll still talk during timeouts and warmup don't they? Nah, Just saw I misread it
2020-04-21 21:31
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Lol na'vi will beat everyone if this happens. Just make boombla4 a a full support and just have blad3 make all the calls for you.
2020-04-21 00:29
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3 replies
Just make boombl4 a full bait*
2020-04-21 00:39
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2 replies
Hey as long as it works.
2020-04-21 00:44
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Boombl4 > perfect/flamie
2020-04-21 02:50
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#23
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Foxxeh
Astralis 7 man roster now kek
2020-04-21 00:30
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#26
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Canada currie200
so its either ALL or NONE... i dont understand..
2020-04-21 00:33
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Lmao how they can prevent Coach from calling if team sit 0n bootcamp? Kekw, retarded rule tbh
2020-04-21 00:34
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#28
jks | 
New Zealand ^Roo^
Surely EG will not allow
2020-04-21 00:34
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That means igls are useless lmfao
2020-04-21 00:34
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3 replies
-nitro
2020-04-21 00:40
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If at least one team votes against it, then coaches will not be allowed inside the game server and will not be able to speak to players during the matches.
2020-04-21 15:21
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1 reply
yeah ik im just saying
2020-04-21 20:25
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#32
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Scotland EoOo
If this happens then teams wont need an IGL anymore
2020-04-21 00:36
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4 replies
Niko wont be able to call strats that boost his stats D:
2020-04-21 00:40
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3 replies
#87
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Scotland EoOo
best player in the world does not need to boost stats
2020-04-21 02:52
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2 replies
He was talking about Niko, not s1mple.
2020-04-21 02:57
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1 reply
#111
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Scotland EoOo
s0mple? why you bring him up?
2020-04-21 05:27
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Guys,heretics will vote for no because their coach is vac banned and cant attend anyway
2020-04-21 00:40
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5 replies
#50
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World madman112
Lmao oo oo
2020-04-21 00:56
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Lul XDdd
2020-04-21 01:57
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lmfao
2020-04-21 03:11
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#118
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Sweden CharlesEmilNilsson
AHAHAHAHAHA
2020-04-21 07:05
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xd
2020-04-21 12:22
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starix feels good
2020-04-21 00:42
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This is the dumbest thing ESL has proposed since the facebook streams LULW
2020-04-21 00:49
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idk why 1 team gets to fuck over the entire competition should be a 66% majority or something like that
2020-04-21 00:53
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2 replies
#52
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GuardiaN | 
Sweden F03BIA
Agreed, majority should do... this just fucks over every single team except 1 if the vote turned out to be 99%/1%
2020-04-21 00:58
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1 reply
only ones getting fucked over are teams who would be against it. this would be big buff on already strong teams that have been able to gather lot of strong players and now have opportunity to go for 5.
2020-04-21 02:07
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Unexpected
2020-04-21 00:53
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For those of you that got into the pro scene after 2016, just to clear up a couple questions: Yes this would make IGL's useless in the majority of scenarios. That was how it was done pre-2016, and for the most part coaches acted as in game leaders. Valve decided this wasn't the direction they wanted the competitive scene to go in (i apologize but i don't care enough to go look for exact quotes atm) and decided something to the effect of 'Our goal for Valve sponsored Majors is to determine the best FIVE MAN squad in Counterstrike; allowing coaches to communicate in server essentially adds a 6th player to the squad, which we deem to conflict with our image of the game'. The rule at the time technically only applied to Valve sponsored majors, but because no one wanted to play non-major events with a coach and then be lost at the Major, the rest of the scene followed suit. They're bringing a vote on it now because there is no current LAN scene, everything's being played online with teams playing from their own respective homes and/or team bases, meaning that while there may be no way for a coach to speak to players in game, theres nothing stopping the whole team from joining Teamspeak or Discord outside of the server and allowing the coach to IGL while watching the game over their players shoulders (or im sure theres a way they could watch live on their own screen, not sure). All this new vote is really doing is allowing the teams to decide to forego the effort of using teamspeak or discord and let the coaches legally be in the server. The big question mark (if the vote passes) is how this would affect the way teams approach their lineups for the Major, as it wouldn't make much sense to allow coaches in the server for the online qualifiers and not the actual Major itself (assuming Covid dies down by November and the Major is played on LAN). Also if it does pass, would Valve continue to allow coaches to IGL after the Rio Major, or would they reinstate the 5-man rule. It all has HUGE implications on the business side of the game, as IGL's usefulness would be cut drastically and lineups and contracts would be changed to reflect that. TL;DR Teams can use discord right now to let coaches IGL, valve giving teams option to forego that extra effort, might cause huge lineup changes post-major, will be interesting to see
2020-04-21 00:56
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3 replies
thanks for the clear up!
2020-04-21 10:34
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tldr
2020-04-21 13:42
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I think its more on the line of making it equal for all. Teams bootcamping will have the coach talking all time behind them, while teams with each member in his home may have some difficulties, so theyd be in a disadvantage.
2020-04-21 17:54
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What's stopping the teams from joining a discord or ts channel lmao
2020-04-21 01:00
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#61
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World hoobik
This is stupid imo. It completely changes the dynamic of how teams are built. You can stack your team with more firepower as IGLs become unnecessary. It's an important role, that is needed for aspiring players that may not have the skills of the very elite players. There is nothing wrong with the timeout system.
2020-04-21 01:25
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2 replies
#125
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Finland 27HM72
+1
2020-04-21 07:53
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this….
2020-04-21 08:32
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#62
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Europe loonek4
What would stop coaches from talking to the players in real life?
2020-04-21 01:28
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3 replies
imagine if a team out there is already bootcamping together and they have their coach beside them and can talk to them when ever he wants to and that coach will vote no to giving coaches possibility to spec I would laugh the fuck out
2020-04-21 03:34
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1 reply
Afaik the only people that live close to each other are the astralis players and MIBR(they have a gaming house)
2020-04-21 10:39
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I am fine with the new system if its only for the online matches during thr current crisis. I guess most teams would not change their lineups by kicking their IGL if they know that they need him fot LAN-play again. On a permanent basis this is trash and just removes a really big and impactful part of the game.
2020-04-21 11:14
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#65
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LeX | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
eze
2020-04-21 01:37
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#66
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L.K.S | 
United States Xeeh
There will definitely be at least one team to vote against it and since it has to be unanimous i dont see this passing
2020-04-21 01:37
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1 reply
+1 sadly
2020-04-21 02:38
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#68
Per0N | 
Venezuela 643
"coaches being allowed in the server during the ESL One: Road to Rio tournament and talking to players 'without restrictions'". Imagine a coach spending the full round time looking at a well-positioned guy in the crowd that gives him the other team's spots. Nice.
2020-04-21 01:41
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#76
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Egypt BomberMan_
why can't it be 90% ffs why unanimous wtf. Ofcourse 1 team will vote against lmao
2020-04-21 02:08
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1 reply
#90
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Sweden swedz4
yeah this is braindead
2020-04-21 02:57
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I think this change would be ideal for the current situation, but it simply wont happen. Any team without a coach, such as MIBR, would automatically have no reason at all to vote in favor of this.
2020-04-21 02:26
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1 reply
Even with a coach. Every team has to ask. "Do we have a coach that can give us permanently input or being IGL? If the answer is no, you vote against it.
2020-04-21 09:16
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I give this a 0% chance
2020-04-21 02:35
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#81
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Brazil kaduramos
Now that Zews the best coach in the world is out Mibr they do this.
2020-04-21 02:35
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1 reply
Best coach in the world lol
2020-04-21 09:56
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#84
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flusha | 
World loopoos
this is the future for a professional sport of course. the problem here is Valve willing to make pro game as similar to matchmaking environment as possible, when they should be doing quite the opposite and making matchmaking more like pro environment - it's ridiculous having FPL, GC, ESEA and other services like these when matchmaking could and should serve the same purpose
2020-04-21 02:42
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#132
BzOo | 
France JBzOo
Not agree in professional sport coach is on the bench. This rule will destroy all the underdogs team cause T1 team also got the better coach and it’s will kill the in game leader roll.
2020-04-21 09:01
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2 replies
#133
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
flusha | 
World loopoos
well new contenders will be expected to have a coach. that may be positive. I'm not so sure it will destroy underdogs. better and richer teams already got yoga class, gaming house, psychologist, nutritionist, guru etc and underdogs are still a thing nevertheless
2020-04-21 09:05
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1 reply
#160
BzOo | 
France JBzOo
But it’s like the guys on football match will played with blue tooth headphone right ? It’s will not be anymore a players teamplay. Less fault, less opportunities for individuals action, less beautiful show cause everything will be boring to watch
2020-04-21 09:55
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#86
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Denmark nrth_LUL
Not going through teams like bad news bear from na will vote no and heretics will vote no.
2020-04-21 02:50
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#91
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Sweden swedz4
PLEASE EXPOSE WHATEVER TEAM VOTES AGAINST, WE WANNA KNOW
2020-04-21 02:57
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1 reply
ESL wouldn't do that without their permission. Anonymous vote is an importan tool so people can vote what they want without punishment. People who live in a real democracy knows that.
2020-04-21 09:15
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I hope they leak who voted : NO
2020-04-21 03:22
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2 replies
+1 lmao
2020-04-21 05:34
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Why? So you can flame them cause you're toxic and cant accept a decision?
2020-04-21 13:56
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#98
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Poland morosek
Faze trying everything they can LMAOOOO
2020-04-21 03:48
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WTF
2020-04-21 04:27
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the end of igls
2020-04-21 04:44
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lmao YNK he is the coach that just shouts and nothing else which results in a choke like 12-3 to 13-16 vs navi on train
2020-04-21 05:24
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#119
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Sweden CharlesEmilNilsson
Both options suck I suppose.
2020-04-21 07:09
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imagine Ynk notbeing listened to the whole game, not just in the tactical pauses.
2020-04-21 07:17
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#121
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Austria doMK0
I still find it funny that anyone thinks there will be a LAN major in november. It's not gonna happen, because of travel restrictions. E. g. the prime minister of Czech republic recently announced their borders should be closed for 1 year. I get it that organizors want to prepare but its a little silly. Holding online minor six monts before major is another thing i really dont understand.
2020-04-21 07:25
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1 reply
#136
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flusha | 
World loopoos
I think major will be held offline if online ain't possible, but I don't know. For sure you've got a point, though.
2020-04-21 09:07
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EZ4ENCE twista #1 igl and 5 very talented firepower kings around him
2020-04-21 07:41
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#128
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Sweden Lingon
Who thinks that a unanimous vote is good idea hope we get know who votes no
2020-04-21 08:34
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1 reply
mibr and heretic will be against...
2020-04-21 09:06
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#129
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Czech Republic Rewask
Won't pass, Astralis, fnatic and mouz won't vote for this
2020-04-21 08:42
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11 replies
why astralis?
2020-04-21 09:06
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10 replies
#138
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Czech Republic Rewask
No reason for them to allow it, It strenghtens Na'Vi and FaZe while it doesn't help Astralis too much.
2020-04-21 09:14
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9 replies
it would surely help astralis as well. they arent what they used to be and the best coach in the world helping them whole game is benefit for them without a doubt. i agree with navi with you but i still think that astralis will vote for it... on the other hand mibr, heretic will surely be against
2020-04-21 09:16
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#143
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Czech Republic Rewask
The negatives outweight the positives for Astralis. There's no way they are giving Na'Vi such an advantage. Gla1ve can call well himself, of course zonic would help, but Na'Vi being led by B1ade is just too scary for any of the teams to allow. And honestly for a team like MiBR or Heretics this doesn't really change much.
2020-04-21 09:19
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"And honestly for a team like MiBR or Heretics this doesn't really change much." thats the point. heretics coach is banned and cant go with them anyway and mibr is mibr(with manager) so no way that those 2 teams will vote for:D
2020-04-21 09:20
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#145
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Czech Republic Rewask
Well and do you think the teams won't discuss it? It's absolutely clear teams like FaZe or Na'Vi will be trying to change the minds of other teams.
2020-04-21 09:22
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tbh i dont think that there will be some kind of discussion. this rule will boost some teams a lot while it will have no positive impact at all on others so those teams have no reason at all to vote for... also this rule would boost bigger and richer teams in the future and i dont know if it would be a good thing
2020-04-21 09:24
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#147
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Czech Republic Rewask
Why wouldn't there be a discussion? Of course the teams will discuss it, it's not like they're completely isolated. Still the problem doesn't lie in the lower ranked teams that as you say have no reason to vote - those teams can be talked to voting for one option or another. Problem is in someone like fnatic who just aren't going to vote for yes. Also what about the future? We are only talking about one tournament.
2020-04-21 09:28
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the point is that a lot of teams have no reason to even discuss it because they know that it will have no benefit for them while it will boost a lot your opponents. sure some team like fnatic, astralis, faze etc can have some discussion but they will not change mind of teams like heretic... "Also what about the future? We are only talking about one tournament." tournamet organizers follow valve and majors a lot so im like 100% sure that if this would pass somehow then other tournaments would use the same rule
2020-04-21 09:32
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#156
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Czech Republic Rewask
You don't understand. It's pointless to debate in any further and to be honest it's foolish that you think this way. And Valve doesn't have such a dominant position anymore, organizers don't have to follow everything that Valve does and I'm pretty sure that it would cause backlash once again.
2020-04-21 09:38
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dude im just realistic. heretic at very least will be against no matter what and no discussions will change that... and i didnt say single world about valve being dominant or that organizers have to follow them. i said that they do it anyway and if valve wont be agaisnt and 100% of majors team will vote for it you can bet that other organizers will immidiately change their rules
2020-04-21 09:41
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That rule change changed a lot many teams had kicked their coaches cuz the coach was actually IGL. I doubt that teams agree to it that have no IGL coach and that are the most teams. Astralis, Navi would maybe profit from it but EG or Forze??
2020-04-21 09:13
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whats the point of the vote if only 1 team is enough to say no :D
2020-04-21 09:35
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When they entered the tournament every team agreed to play with standard rules, of you want to chage everyone need to be ok with it
2020-04-21 10:42
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yeah thats true, but its strange like if 15 teams in eu say yes and 1 no thats all over, decided that no.. its should be like other sports where decided who vote most not enough only 1 no.
2020-04-21 13:57
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Blad3 could make navi a real top11 team that way.
2020-04-21 09:37
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#158
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Palestine MrZoldiK
This is not even democracy, it's called Valve things XD
2020-04-21 09:40
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Hmm... What might seized be thinking about this...
2020-04-21 09:44
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#167
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World lol_n00bs
Most stupidest rule HAHAHA U know he can just sit right behind them?? Even if shit gets recorded Coach can still write tacs on paper and show them How dumb is esl thinkin this is waterproof??😂😂😂🔥
2020-04-21 10:42
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Online major, this is onlinetares to get a major ROFL
2020-04-21 10:44
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Absolutely no point of this vote, teams without a good coaches will vote no even if they bribe them, and its unanimous as well so there is not a single chance this vote to pass
2020-04-21 10:50
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#172
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Malta MIHAJA
ah it's 2015 all over again
2020-04-21 11:15
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#173
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal dascouves
Obviously not going to go through.
2020-04-21 11:34
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Astralis, Faze and NaVi are gonna love it. Me too thought
2020-04-21 11:35
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they wont love anything since that vote is doomed....
2020-04-21 12:39
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What kind of idiotic vote system is this
2020-04-21 11:52
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It's how a lot of important votes work, you assume the status quo to be fine, but then if literally everyone wants to improve the situation in the same way, then there's no denying that it's the right choice.
2020-04-21 15:31
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But really, an unanimous vote? Surely a supermajority would work
2020-04-21 18:03
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I think it's just because it's been this way for so long, that if they're gonna change it here it has to be unanimous.
2020-04-21 19:54
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#178
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Poland xBG1
kuben BACK TO THE TOP AGAIN
2020-04-21 12:37
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what the hell
2020-04-21 13:04
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mibr going to vote "no"
2020-04-21 13:11
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Faze rank 1? Now
2020-04-21 13:19
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i agree with this action, if the coach can tell anything during the game, theres no need to get an IGL. this wont go to, they must keep coach to talk in warmup and timeouts.
2020-04-21 14:40
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cool
2020-04-21 15:08
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This might be a controversial opinion, but coaches should ABSOLUTELY act as this "sixth player" we're all apparently so scared of. As much as football and other sports have captains that sorta lead on the pitch, the coaches are still leading in terms of strategies and adapting etc.
2020-04-21 15:30
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I agree with you
2020-04-21 21:39
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all we want is a stream with teams voip
2020-04-21 16:20
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There's no way to enforce the rule, so just allow it for now
2020-04-21 18:28
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#229
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Russia GOTHBOI
coaching is dumb
2020-04-23 21:58
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