Illuminar bench roster

23-12-2020 23:44

The organization is looking to restructure the team after realizing that changes needed to happen for the lineup to become a well-oiled machine.

Illuminar have decided to place their entire roster on the bench and evaluate their options ahead of 2021, the organization has announced. At the moment, it's yet to be determined who will stay and who will leave.

The decision comes as a surprise after the Polish side qualified for the IEM Katowice Play-in stage with a win at the ESL Polish Championship Autumn in September and advanced to ESEA MDL Season 36 Europe to end the 2020 season.

Illuminar's entire lineup has been placed on th ebench

According to a statement from the organization's Chief Gaming Officer, due to unplanned changes Illuminar were unable to choose a group of players that would satisfy their fans. That likely refers to August's loss of Paweł "⁠innocent⁠" Mocek, who transferred to MAD Lions and the Polish side later added Tomasz "⁠phr⁠" Wójcik.

Although its plans are yet to be finalized behind the scenes, the organization expects to announce more news regarding their 2021 lineup after Christmas.

The following lineup will sit on Illuminar's bench until further notice:

Paweł "⁠reatz⁠" Jańczak
Janusz "⁠Snax⁠" Pogorzelski
Arek "⁠Vegi⁠" Nawojski
Mikołaj "⁠mouz⁠" Karolewski
Tomasz "⁠phr⁠" Wójcik

Adrian "⁠imd⁠" Pieper (coach)

OH NO

2020-12-23 23:44

18 replies

ITS THE DACIA SANDERO

2020-12-23 23:48

13 replies

Brutal Savage Rekt Absolutely taken Down

2020-12-23 23:52

9 replies

-NBK +snaxie

2020-12-24 01:56

8 replies

no -STYKO +Snax for more firepower

2020-12-24 11:56

7 replies

We already saw - STYKO +Snax once and we know how it ended up

2020-12-24 12:22

6 replies

We also saw how u got baited big time

2020-12-24 12:50

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yea lol

2020-12-24 13:04

yes. they won esl one NY

2020-12-24 12:51

Ye, and also lost another 10 tournaments and got Styko back

2020-12-31 23:10

I remember him getting a 3k on short dust ones. thats all I remember of snax, mouse edition

2020-12-24 13:02

Beat no.2 team in the world to get t1 tournament win but okay

2020-12-25 08:09

2020-12-24 00:15

lmao

Good news!

2020-12-24 02:19

Anyways...

2020-12-24 00:11

Thank you

2020-12-24 07:43

Now the Toyota urban cruiser

2020-12-24 04:56

Faze snax

2020-12-24 10:08

not nice

deserved

2020-12-24 01:51

rip

2020-12-23 23:45

its gona be huge

merry christmas i guess

WHAT WHY FFS !!!!!!!!!!!!! right before christmas((((((((((((

2020-12-23 23:47

I would assume the players were well aware before this even happened. Not to mention they are benched so atleast are still under contract and have financial support

2020-12-24 02:23

ILLUMINAR TOTAL WEIGHT IN KG OVER 1000

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Will the bench support them?

2020-12-23 23:46

kek

2020-12-24 07:40

XDDD

th ebench HLTV, pls fix

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2020-12-24 01:59

It's actually ebench

2020-12-24 02:20

eBench? wtfmen))) not only do we have to deal with eGirls now, but eBenches as well??!?!?

2020-12-24 03:00

Xdd

2020-12-24 04:33

The only one good thing from this is gonna be -reatz -mouz

mouz is good but yeah there are better free players rn, i would like to see +dycha +rallen so it will be mix of 2019 vp and arcy

2020-12-24 02:27

on th ebench

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH LMAO

XD what a stupid move

the most stupid move is to contract any polish team this times

2020-12-24 15:36

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Rip Polands only relevant team

ENCE +Snax?

wtf i just read xd

Dycha Snax Innocent A competent IGL Byali/Vegi/Rallen Merry Christmas

+zeus blyat ja nie panimaju was davaj na b ez 16-0 every game

2020-12-24 00:22

Merry Christmas

2020-12-24 00:27

the only competent igles in pl are neo and taz, but phr should stay, he is doing well

2020-12-24 02:28

Snax is a great IGL Innocent and MICHU said in the past that he is the best IGL they ever played with

2020-12-24 02:36

Innocent Rallen mhL Some igl Some polish cunt

2020-12-24 08:35

How about Furlan as IGL? He's one of the best Polish IGL and a pretty good fragger. I'd go with Snax Dycha Vegi / Snatchie Innocent Furlan

2020-12-25 16:04

Snax and Phr will stay for sure but who +3

innocent / dycha +1

2020-12-24 00:03

snatchie, dycha, rallen perhaps. Cant think of any better Polish players than these that are avalible. Obviously michu but hes got a team already.

2020-12-24 01:02

2 snipers? kkkkkkkkkkk

2020-12-24 09:37

Wow you are right, that would be out of this world fuckt up! No team has ever done that before :O Btw are you new here? Snax has played non awp in many teams for many years.

2020-12-24 12:25

LMFAO GG trash poland players, so much for katowice 2021 play in. maybe dont matchfix so much on your next teams

2020-12-24 02:51

US speaking KEKW

2020-12-24 09:38

ah yes, the famous Greenland scene is so big

2020-12-24 13:23

3 replies

At least we don't throw

2020-12-24 13:28

because none of your matches will ever be on betting sites

2020-12-24 13:30

Yes so we don't throw

2020-12-24 17:34

Wtf some guy on HLTV called it

stupid play, arent they playing katowice?

2020-12-23 23:53

2 fucking months to prepare their own gameplay not even talking about preparing for some good oposition Always wind in the face

2020-12-24 01:50

yeah but it's perfect time for changes rn, no matches, avez released 3 players, pact is probably going to disband, sprout released dycha and snatchie, we also have byali, tudson, rallen, so there are many choices and we need to be realists, they would be rekt anyway in this play in, no chances against 80% of the teams

2020-12-24 02:32

Actually +1. Interesting

2020-12-24 10:23

No comment

2020-12-23 23:57

Why? They have been looking great, TOP 30 team for me. Really weird from Illuminar.

2020-12-23 23:58

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bcz they can not win aboard, thats all, big shuffle and good for all polish teams

2020-12-24 00:25

Idk., from what I read they are rebuilding, so idk. if it will be good for Polish teams.

hltv.org/matches/2345912/fate-vs-illumin.. Maybe because of this type of performance. If you do not have respect for the team at 1.12 favourites, have respect for your fans ;) <3 It is clear they do not have respect for either!

2020-12-24 05:08

Yeah, this loss was tragical, but they bounced back and made a run through a lower bracket, so it isn't that bad. And bad performance happens, players have worse days aswell.

2020-12-24 23:23

When they looked great?

2020-12-24 05:28

Recently, they are really looking like a TOP 30 team atm.

Not really everytime against a good a opponent they lose and if they win they win its thanks to individuals mostly from snax or sometimes vegi. Also reatz and mouz play like shit. And The only reason why they are at 32 in The rankings is winning polish Championship against no real competition.

2020-12-25 01:58

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They are no.32 mostly because they went to semi-final at DH Open November.

2020-12-25 12:53

Where they lost to The better opponents and only won against The bad ones

2020-12-25 16:02

They have beaten Nemiga there, which is a big upset from them. ofc. they lost to Gambit and Spirit because they were a couple of levels ahead of them.

2020-12-25 17:41

against nemiga wihtout their best player

2020-12-25 17:48

They played with Forester, who is pretty good aswell, and even with a stand-in it's still impressive that they have beaten Nemiga.

2020-12-25 23:59

poor snax man just get him on some #20ish team and he'd do well

2020-12-23 23:59

They start doing good then they get benched?

2020-12-24 00:01

They were awesome indeed as this game shows. So good they made me look like I could get into Astralis ;) hltv.org/matches/2345912/fate-vs-illumin..

2020-12-24 05:14

Snax Vegi PHR Snatchie Dycha That's ex-VP -byali +Dycha,that's illuminar plans for "New Polish dream team" thank me later B)

2020-12-24 00:02

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>vegi phr snatchie >polish dream team pick one

2020-12-24 00:07

ikr but that's "Polish dream team" to this organization,not giving players time to warm up for next quali and next event just bench them and make everyone nervous

2020-12-24 00:08

they should pick up rallen and innocent after his contract with mad lions expires, buyout mhl, dycha and try to play with snax or another igl

2020-12-24 00:12

from what I know innocent's contract expires on 31 December 2021.

2020-12-24 02:00

yes so they dont have to wait long)))

2020-12-24 02:08

Only year

2020-12-24 09:52

Dycha dont wanna play in polish team

why?

because they all suck and dycha dont deserve tier 3

2020-12-24 00:28

He played in sprout. Top 15 or 17 team. It will be step back in his carreier. Here you have interview with Dycha. There's clearly explain why he dont wanna play in polish team. eweszlo.pl/dycha-wywiad-po-odejsciu-ze-s..

2020-12-26 13:45

expected

2020-12-24 00:04

polish cs XD avez dropped 3 players pact is about to disband ago is dead illuminar bench whole team

Polisch cs have only two good Teams now wisła and izako

2020-12-24 00:10

both trash, only hnrs and arcane wave are relevant now

2020-12-24 02:33

Hnrs is relevant? Its littery barly a tier 3 team... Random mixes could win against them. I had big hopes in that team but they disappointed me big time

2020-12-24 02:45

krystal HS innocent mhL dycha/rallen

obvious, there are like 30 better polish players than these :S you can even do a super team just with FAs combined, lol!!

2020-12-24 00:17

snatchie, dycha, rallen avalible now. All 3 should be considered I think.

2020-12-24 01:00

+michu and let envy acquire chaos and we are all set

2020-12-24 01:14

Hey, PL scene is dying again :d

2020-12-24 00:20

you can't kill something already dead

2020-12-24 02:34

They were doing a bit better with time. Sure, we didn't had a team capable of being in top10 but top30 was really close to achieve

2020-12-24 08:34

yeah but they wouldn't be stable top30, and now there are chances of getting best pl players

2020-12-25 00:32

Maybe rallen and innocent will get involved into playing in a top1 PL team. Anyway, we will see. Merry Christmas!

2020-12-25 17:31

if dycha agreed(low chances) and they got rallen we would have for example: snax vegi phr dycha rallen so we would have 2019 vp and arcy mix, would be atleast stable top30-20, anyway thanks! marry christmas to you and everyone reading this comment

2020-12-25 23:02

polish cs is so dead

Damn I wonder who to bench... Ah fuck it, bench all

2020-12-24 00:33

This xD

2020-12-24 04:38

ty <3

polish cs slowly becoming as bad as NA

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NA is better than polish cs atm, what the fuck are you talking about? lmao

2020-12-24 00:59

19 replies

At current state we're not that far behind after so many teams got dropped and twistzz left liquid

2020-12-24 04:39

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They still have 2 teams in tier 1/2

2020-12-24 05:27

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Yes, but they are declining fast and furious Remember avez was a tier 2 contender early this year with wins over big etc. Look how bad they are now.

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?? Liquid just got to the final in a tournament with all the top teams lol

And lost their 2nd best player xDD

More like 4th lmao

2020-12-24 05:29

2nd best player, you're funny haha

2020-12-24 05:31

No u xD

I'm just saying it can go downhill really fast, if someone would tell me in 2017 that in a year polish Cs would be completely irrelevant I'd not believe but it happened. You don't know what will happen to NA cs

Well, you're just assuming things. The truth is that NA cs is miles ahead of polish cs, and that is a fact.

2020-12-24 05:30

We'll see about it in 2021

2020-12-24 05:32

Facts>feelings

XD what feelings have to the future? You're completely missing my point but that's fine because idc

2020-12-24 05:35

The topic was "polish cs slowly becoming as bad as NA", I was just saying that's false. Same with your reply in #129, NA is miles ahead of Polish cs atm, and you can't deny that. With the players that NA have between Liquid,EG and junior, floppy, xeppa I doubt that this two teams are in trouble. I agree with tier 2 NA scene being fucked now, but they were the same players for years in those teams, just switching teams, maybe this is a opportunity to new players to enter the scene, nobody knows what's going to happen. Also, if same org put together the best polish players, they have a chance a tier 1-2. You have good players, but they're all spread out in different teams or F/A.

2020-12-24 07:02

Tl;Dr lmao u Rally expect me to care enough about your opinion when you showed lack of thinking?

2020-12-24 14:47

With your reply in #129, you don't have the right to say that,cmon dudeee... lmao. I don't care about what you care or not kiddo. The truth is NA CS>>>>>>>>>>PL CS and you're fucking retarded if you think otherwise

2020-12-24 20:57

NA is more shameful since everyone is jumping ship for valorant at least the poles are trying

But they don't have a team at top tier tournaments, NA does.

2020-12-24 05:23

snax gonna be thin+hungry now, because of no sallary

2020-12-24 00:34

snax vegi and phr are save imo

2020-12-24 00:35

Lol, why?

this team was a joke anyway

2020-12-24 00:42

merry christmas illuminar

2020-12-24 00:43

xdd

2020-12-24 00:45

happy for snax, but idk if this is gonna work

2020-12-24 00:46

Noice timing xDD

2020-12-24 00:54

HAHHHa

Great news

So its an excuse to pay the players less salary until they decide whom to cut? Actually smart.

why cant poland create a team with dycha,snax,mhL f1ku maybe and maybe someone from wisla and u have best polish team ?

2020-12-24 00:58

Unexpected. I don't care who will do it, but can anyone please finally build one good polish team? I mean that recent poland mix looked quite good, if they can have some better IGL and dyycha, they should be signed. I hope they don't waste dychaa into another T3 polish team, hes really solid. I don't know polish scene well, but ill try: Dychaaa Innocent rallen mhL snax? Someone please modify it to be more relevant, i would like to know. Thx.

2020-12-24 01:07

mhL dycha innocent vegi kei

2020-12-24 01:11

A team with no IGL noice... so kei or vegi gotta go so Snax can come in (the best Polish igl now) So we are on mhl,Dycha, Innocent snax and kei/vegi u won't get Innocent because he is under contact so instead of him get back rallen for his expirence. I would go for mhL,Dycha,Rallen,Snax,Kei but hey dycha doesn't want to play on a polish team so u can replace him with vegi polish scene has issues

2020-12-24 02:56

I told you shuffle is coming :)

2020-12-24 10:51

they made MDL wtf, why they benched the whole team

2020-12-24 01:09

You lost your job, have a nice Christmas! I swear this kind of shit could happen only in Poland :D

i'm pretty sure players knew about it a lot earlier than hltv :)

2020-12-24 02:55

What in God's name is that from Snax?

2020-12-24 01:16

who?

very good decision by illuminar, there are so many polish free agents that they can build much better team than this.

2020-12-24 01:20

What

2020-12-24 01:38

What happened to Poland CS ? From always they were top CS country, but i guess mentality of new generation is not that good. Even u ace enemy's team, u saying kurwa. Thats why this generation has no success, no calm and skilled people i guess. Respect to neo,taz,byali,snax,pasha

2020-12-24 01:44

Yea I guess Innocent,mantuu,Dycha,snatchie,Rallen,Tudson suck... bro udk. Nothing about the scene... the reason they never moved on because there was no one developing the Polish scene look at what fallen did for Brazilian cs while winning, Vp only though about winning they never cared about Polish cs... they said it. They ment it was a huge mistake and could have easily done more

2020-12-24 03:02

XDD this has to become a pasta

2020-12-24 04:41

WTF??

2020-12-24 01:46

Biggest shit in history

2020-12-24 02:06

polish cs so much potential but can't get it together where is mocek now? mald lions bench?

2020-12-24 02:09

#87

2020-12-24 05:10

Dycha Snatchie/mhL innocent Snax Rallen/byali pls

snax awp +elige entry +stanislaw support +bntet rifler +tabsen igl ez top1 2k21

None of these players would agrees to such shuffle

wtf why

2020-12-25 00:33

finally :D snax is just stealing paycheck money

2020-12-24 02:43

Snax has 1.15 rating while being the IGL and getting all the positions nobody wants lol

2020-12-24 03:07

They will probably keep him cuz hes still better than 80% poles even if only steal paychecks kkkkkkk

2020-12-24 04:07

And another one bites the dust

2020-12-24 02:46

Get mhL, innocent, rallen And stop pretending

2020-12-24 03:05

wtfffff

2020-12-24 03:49

Snax? PogU

2020-12-24 03:54

Very nice +hunden +twistzz

2020-12-24 04:05

Put vaseline in the machine

2020-12-24 05:03

2020-12-24 05:12

Finally

lol

2020-12-24 07:10

Back to cleaning gg

2020-12-24 09:03

"Fake vp destroyed by polish superteam in 2021"

2020-12-24 10:54

Guys. Avez disband PACT propably disband Ago ll propably bench their players as well. Innocent, Dycha - possible to buy but dycha dont want to play in polish team. Rallen - free agent There is few options, but most propably is -mouz - reatz +kei +Kylar/rallen or try to buy innocent from ML and +kei +some igl (imo) change to be in next roster : Snax - 90% Vegi - 75% Phr - 50% Mouz - 20% Reatz - 10%

2020-12-24 09:17

Reatz 10? Reatz>phr

Phr is igl u goofy

2020-12-24 13:54

I ll change my predictions phr - 40% Vegi - 60%

big X D

2020-12-24 09:22

Snax Phr Kei Rallen Kylar/innocent

2020-12-24 09:54

Yikes.

2020-12-24 09:59

Nice, they push it over months and when they are finally in the gate of the top30, the org bench them:DDD

2020-12-24 10:09

nice christmas presentxD

2020-12-24 11:03

MICHU dycha Snax Innocent mhL/snatchie

2020-12-24 11:17

snax shit without hax

2020-12-24 11:31

Imagine benching best team in the region LULW POLISH BRAIN

2020-12-24 11:47

Best time to bench your players xD

2020-12-24 11:48

dycha rallen snatchie snax mouz/phr

2020-12-24 12:01

Dycha Rallen Vegi Phr Snax

2020-12-24 12:15

iLULminar worst PL org ever so im not surprised

2020-12-24 12:18

XDXDXDXDXDXDXDX

dycha snatchie lunAtic (igl) innocent Sobol New roster for Illuminar

2020-12-24 12:23

IHG benching all players Pact probably disbanding 3 players left from Avez Ago rebuilding team I like this year i hope ihg will get rid of reatz and mouz

2020-12-24 12:27

Best available polish team rn: Dycha mhL Rallen Innocent Snax

2020-12-24 12:26

2020-12-24 12:31

Dycha, Innocent, rallen Michu and maybe Snax/mhl/snatchie???

2020-12-24 12:36

Good, polish matchfixers should be jailed

2020-12-24 12:41

sad

actually not, they were garbage and polish fans wanted the changes

2020-12-24 14:36

I realise that "the polish shuffle" is coming (a lot of free agents, teams disbanding) but on the other hand holy fuck, that's the problem of the polish scene, 1. Creating new team 2. Big expectations but still playing bad 3. Slowly improving (almost top 30 now in illuminar's case) 4. Disband or making changes 5. Repeat.

2020-12-24 13:21

Merry Christmas!

daily polish scene earthquake, nothing changes although

Polish CS:GO scene is childishness...

polska gurom

2020-12-24 13:29

Not very pog

i just want this team to make the major one time because of the stickers,they gonna look sick

2020-12-24 13:49

Poggers rip

2020-12-24 13:53

T5 team so good decide

2020-12-24 14:35

Mibr snax

2020-12-24 15:31

Fnatic snax

2020-12-24 15:34

snax byali pasha taz neo this might work

2020-12-24 15:49

pepehands

2020-12-24 15:50

snax KEKW

2021-01-03 11:45

Snax knur kicked again, expected tbh

2020-12-24 15:51

polish cs *clown*

2020-12-24 15:52

merry christmas

2020-12-24 16:05

Poland cs? HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH i can beat them with 3k stack in FACEIT HAHAHAHAHAHAA

2020-12-24 16:19

Man, snax deserved better. He had just a rough time. I wish him the best, he was contender for best player in the world one year in VP, like with kennys in titan but they never saw enough success.

2020-12-24 17:19

well done.. This retards needs to be thrown out

2020-12-24 17:46

SNAX is still playing CS:GO? Lmao I didn't even know let's go restructure and they might hit tier 50.

2020-12-24 19:55

2020-12-24 20:38

LOL wtf they get invited to IEM Katowice 2021, the first lan in almost a year and they bench the lineup... Just replace them with SAW and we're good to go...

2020-12-24 20:59

lol saw xD lol :D :P xD

2020-12-24 21:01

they got invite because they were supposed to play in poland lol

2020-12-25 15:33

I get that... but if Illuminar was thinking about benching the lineup, they should've reject it... Wisla Krakov could've receive the invite instead. If Illuminar gets 5 players from different lineups, what can they do if they aren't used to play together with the tournament starting mid January? IMO, they'll be a wasted spot unless they hire the entire lineup from another org. I'm just against this decision being made 4 weeks away from the first Lan in almost a Year while other teams that are going to stay together looking to improve in 2021 and the first opportunity for a Lan goes to an org that doen't even know what will be their plans for 2021

2020-12-26 12:48

They will change 1 or MAX 2 players, other options just doesn't make sense. Other ones will stay for sure.

2020-12-28 05:18

snatchie?

2020-12-25 20:54

hltv.org/stats/players/compare/9574/snat..

2020-12-26 17:37

but mhl played worse teams, or

2021-01-01 19:34

Don't think so. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/16847/mhl And bare in mind he was not in full shape after end in AGO. I think hes considerably better than snatchie.

2021-01-01 21:01