FireGamers out despite fnatic win

12-11-2009 12:04

FireGamers are out of the tournament on the opening day despite a shock 17-13 win over fnatic in their last match.

The Brazilian side knew they had a moutain to climb after losing 20-10 to wNv.cn on earlier in the day, but they still came into the game very confident of a win.

FireGamers started out better, winning the pistol round, after which they were surprised by a well-organised eco strategy from fnatic.

Although de_train is known to be one of fnatic´s strongest maps, the Swedish side could not impose themselves as T as they went into the second half losing 9-6.

Now playing as CT, fnatic came out strongly, winning the first five rounds, but then it was almost an all-FG show, inspired by their recent addition, Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo.

In the end, FG posted a 17-13 win, which falls short, though, as they finish third of their group based on the round difference between the three tied teams.

WCG 2009Best of 0

FireGamers

Matchpage

12th November 2009

fnatic

Train

wow. not fair imo

2009-11-12 12:05

1 reply

How is it not fair?

2009-11-12 22:58

lol

2009-11-12 12:05

lol?

2009-11-12 12:05

we won :)

2009-11-12 12:05

yeye they played a good game..but overall i think both wnv and fnatic are better.

2009-11-12 12:09

2 replies

Exactly. No need to discuss.

2009-11-12 12:08

Apparently they are since they placed ahead of FG. :)

2009-11-12 22:58

if bruno had killed f0rest to the 1v1 situation in the last round fg would advanced

2009-11-12 12:06

15 replies

If they had played better against wnv they would have advanced!!

2009-11-12 12:07

1 reply

just 1 round more ..

2009-11-12 12:07

yes u r right anyways gg firegamers

2009-11-12 12:07

its was nak, not bruno :\

2009-11-12 12:13

1 reply

who ever

2009-11-12 12:15

#6 has it

2009-11-12 12:13

3 replies

u have aids

2009-11-12 12:14

2 replies

He agreed with you you fool. :P

2009-11-12 22:59

1 reply

;) it's a trick

2009-11-13 10:36

not correct. fnatic had +30 in round difference, both wnv and firegamers had 24+.

2009-11-12 12:38

5 replies

If he was that would mean fnatic would have 29, fg 25, wnv 24, but wcg has got some pretty pathetic rules.

2009-11-12 12:46

3 replies

FG would have 26 actually. :)

2009-11-12 23:00

2 replies

Ye, sorry :p

2009-11-13 03:37

1 reply

No problem, it just strengthened what you said. ;)

2009-11-13 19:53

Which means FG would've gone through?

2009-11-12 23:00

How are they out?

2009-11-12 12:06

that sucks.

2009-11-12 12:06

WNV 19 + 19 + 20 + 14 = 72 WNV 11 + 11 + 16 + 10 = 48 = 24 FIREGAMERS 22 + 25 + 10 + 17 = 74 FIREGAMERS 08 + 05 + 20 + 13 = 46 = 28 dont mess around

2009-11-12 12:07

6 replies

2009-11-12 12:09

But in the WCG Website, the match against EXECUTIONERS was 23-7, dont 25-5. wcg.com/6th/Tournament/2009/tm_profile_t..

2009-11-12 12:09

1 reply

www.wcg.com/6th/Tournament/2009/tm_profile_team_detail.asp?match_type=full&matchno=M09102810010

2009-11-12 23:00

FG x XCN = 23x07!!!

2009-11-12 12:14

firegamers 22 23 10 17 firegamers 08 07 20 13 =24 same as wnv, wnv winned the match against fg, so wnv advances, sry.

2009-11-12 12:16

1 reply

jop but so luck..

2009-11-12 14:59

too bad great games on this group thought

2009-11-12 12:07

Its a shame, if FG was in the same group like H2k it'd been soooooo much better for everyone

2009-11-12 12:07

Nixon are you on site?? wnv advanced ?? Hell yeah!!!!!! My tears are coming out!!

2009-11-12 12:07

1 reply

Hey, calm down. :P

2009-11-12 23:01

too bad ;/

2009-11-12 12:08

wtf, was it 25-5 or 27-3 agains xcn ?

2009-11-12 12:08

1 reply

Doesn't matter.

2009-11-12 23:04

On sk-gaming site, fg are advancing.

2009-11-12 12:08

1 reply

they are wrong, they suck at maths

2009-11-12 12:46

Yeah this sucks and is not fair at all, who gives a f about some round difference. 16 should be it, game over. This thing is f****** hilarious.

2009-11-12 12:08

1 reply

it's rather sad and unluck for them :/ both got the same round difference but wNv won with them

2009-11-12 12:49

Sad for fg

2009-11-12 12:08

not bruno on 1x1 are nak

2009-11-12 12:09

nixon u have a wrong result in the site: FG 23 x 7 executioners! that was actually 25x5, as we see on SK-Gaming and mibr.com... so FG advances

2009-11-12 12:10

6 replies

really?!

2009-11-12 12:11

1 reply

yes.. i watched that, and look on SK-Gaming or mibr.com

2009-11-12 12:12

he's at the event...

2009-11-12 12:12

3 replies

he got internet connection there

2009-11-12 12:49

2 replies

I think he meant that nix is at the event and he knows better.. I guess ?

2009-11-12 13:01

1 reply

yup

2009-11-12 13:15

nak ...... needed to take it

2009-11-12 12:10

FG X EXECUTIONERS = 25x5 NOT 23x7 FG NEXT!

2009-11-12 12:10

1 reply

hhhhhhhh YA BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

2009-11-12 12:11

LOL

2009-11-12 12:11

1 reply

go home. and try to not being discovered next time ;)

2009-11-12 12:15

fg vs executioners 15x0 ct 10x5 tr 25x5 gg

2009-11-12 12:11

2 replies

omg hltv.org ? lame

2009-11-12 12:11

1 reply

gotfrag did it either

2009-11-12 12:12

based on the round difference between the three tied teams. thats the reason

2009-11-12 12:11

if it's 25-5 FG go in and wNv out why they not do with average ... like every competition

2009-11-12 12:12

25 - 5 ( 15 : 0, 10 : 5 ) OR 23-7 ?!?!?!?!?!?

2009-11-12 12:14

Guys it doesn't matter if FG had a better round difference from a win vs Executioners. In case of 3 or more teams having the same number of points, the following rules will be applied in order listed: a) Head To Head (The winner of the matches between the affected teams) b) Number of in-game rounds won during group matches between the affected teams. c) Number of in-game rounds won during group matches d) Rematch (The map will be drawn.). Read 'em and weep!

2009-11-12 12:12

9 replies

Thank you.

2009-11-12 12:14

Exactly, people don't read the official rule. Read rule b) Number of in-game rounds won during group matches between the affected teams.

2009-11-12 12:14

it makes no sense at all! if that's true fg beated fnatic, then they should be classified!

2009-11-12 12:15

1 reply

then why ur better fg lost to weaker wnv. that doesnt make sense:)

2009-11-12 12:23

What you mean head to head goes first? You do realise wnv won against fg, fg won against fnatic, fnatic won against wnv, SEE WHERE IM GOING?

2009-11-12 12:17

2 replies

not fair indeed

2009-11-12 12:17

Which means they all have 3 points each if you just count head to head, and then the second rule applies....

2009-11-12 23:03

no senes ? so FG and WNV move on ?! no.

2009-11-12 12:18

1 reply

fnatic & wnv move on

2009-11-12 12:24

FG X XCN 25 x 5 I WATCHED THE GAME

2009-11-12 12:12

#26 No they don't. It's not the overall round difference that is taken into count here. It's the intern round difference between the 3 involved teams that they're using.

2009-11-12 12:13

that guy nixxon doesn't know how to do math.. my god man

2009-11-12 12:13

1 reply

I'm sorry, but thats the official result.

2009-11-12 14:46

FG vill not advance

2009-11-12 12:13

WNV +8 , Fnatic,-2 FG -6 Fnatic was so lucky

2009-11-12 12:13

1 reply

they are always lucky If you hide tactics for the final games, you must be lucky, otherwise you wouldn't win anything.

2009-11-12 12:55

its not about 1 round, its about 2 rounds vs fnatic or even more rounds if mixed vs wnv (cmon u can read guys, round difference between TIED teams o_O)

2009-11-12 12:14

oh my fucking god ITS SENSATIONAL! hahaHAHHAHA

2009-11-12 12:14

wcg.com/6th/Tournament/2009/tm_profile_t.. 27-3 sk-gaming.com/match/25058 25-5

2009-11-12 12:14

1 reply

www.wcg.com/6th/Tournament/2009/tm_profile_team_detail.asp?match_type=full&matchno=M09102810010 www.sk-gaming.com/match/25058

2009-11-12 23:05

bahhhh its 23-7 not 25-5 sk-gaming just currect it

2009-11-12 12:15

anyway fnatic is top1 in group right?

2009-11-12 12:15

2 replies

no fnatic 2nd wNv 1st

2009-11-12 12:18

1 reply

nop fnatic first then FG (if the results are correct) then vNw (rouds difference)

2009-11-12 12:20

nice mtw h2k firegamers fnatic best teams

2009-11-12 12:17

gg :)

2009-11-12 12:17

Firegamers PASSO . parem de meter a mão

2009-11-12 12:17

25-5

2009-11-12 12:18

oh my fucking god ITS SENSATIONAL! hahaHAHHAHA

2009-11-12 12:19

2 replies

you better stfu

2009-11-12 12:41

Hey I thought you received a ban on hltv.org too...

2009-11-12 12:58

Guys, just read the official WCG rules. In case of a 3-way-tie in points, the round difference will count, but only concerning the teams involved, so: 1. wNv 2. fnatic 3. Firegamers

2009-11-12 12:19

3 replies

Next time all they have to do is get 16 rounds and disconnect from the server, awesome rules (from the teams who dont have a chance anyway i mean)

2009-11-12 12:22

2 replies

True, I agree the rule is shit. :P

2009-11-12 23:06

It's really disappointed that fg is out of wcg.

2009-11-13 03:00

oh.. Go FG

2009-11-12 12:19

what the hell? is this some new system... why didnt they use the usual way of counting,total amount of rounds won - lost

2009-11-12 12:19

2 replies

This isn't new at all. A lots of LANs use this kind of system, which is actually way more fair to the top teams. No one cares, that who could win more rounds against lower class teams in the group. Anyway FG would have deserved to move on too, but WCG made their groups random again. A seeding would have been nice :S

2009-11-12 12:24

1 reply

2009-11-12 14:58

I think all the 3 teams(fnatic, FG and wNv.cn) deserve to qualify for the next round. This group wasn't fair. Whereas in some other groups we will be seeing, even the teams we have never heard of will be qualifying. Please support me if you guys think so. Go Fair WCG :O

2009-11-12 12:19

2 replies

it's about the random drawing ... it's not like WCG did that on purpose , just bad luck for FG i guess so stop being unfair to the staff !!! go WCG !!!

2009-11-12 12:21

1 reply

No offense. I didn't mean unfair to the staff... Don't you thing after the great game against fnatic, FG deserved to be qualified? And fairness comes to play when luck isn't a part of the game. So, rather than having random draws. Groups should be drawn according to some different criteria(like say according to seeds or rankings) such that luck remains out of picture. Go WCG!!! but try to go fair too.

2009-11-12 12:29

Official results: wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_match_ful..

2009-11-12 12:19

1 reply

www.wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_match_full_2009.asp?sort=G090404100

2009-11-12 23:07

final standing : 1.wnv 2.fnatic

2009-11-12 12:21

wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_match_sin..

2009-11-12 12:21

1 reply

www.wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_match_single_2009.asp?sort=G090404100

2009-11-12 23:07

dont add others. wnv20:10 fg wnv14:16 fnatic fg 17:13 fnatic so.wnv34/16 fnatic 29/31 fg27/33 just one round..if fg18:12fnatic. then,fnatic 28/32=fg. then there were an extra match.

2009-11-12 12:21

1 reply

Nope, then the matches against the 4th and 5th placed teams would've been counted for FG and fnatic.

2009-11-12 23:09

www.wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_match_full_2009.asp?sort=G090404100

2009-11-12 12:21

GOGO fire gamers don't stop !

2009-11-12 12:22

great, now we can have the grand final we all want mTw vs fnatic .

2009-11-12 12:22

3 replies

I think they face each other ahead of the grand final, if there is no double elimination of course. Because Nix or MIRAA had predicted that mTw could face fnatic in the final, and I think he was quite sure fnatic would finish 1st in their group.

2009-11-12 23:10

2 replies

yeah i know now kinda anoing, it just didnt look like it at the time i wrote that i think, people still discussing the outcome:). But wth if they meet in a semi-final? its gna be a good match aswell.

2009-11-13 06:17

1 reply

Yeah, of course it will! There is just one problem, it's played 08:00!

2009-11-13 19:50

is from CBF the organization of the tourney? who was the referee? carlos eugenio simon? omg

2009-11-12 12:22

wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_match_ful.. Fg out :/

2009-11-12 12:24

1 reply

www.wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_match_full_2009.asp?sort=G090404100

2009-11-12 23:11

#89 KAkpoakpoakopaKPOaKOP GO FG!

2009-11-12 12:24

Firegamers will be cursing themselves for losing that match so badly vs wNv.cn

2009-11-12 12:24

1 reply

but when wnvcn's playing t side,they didnt have any chance.

2009-11-12 12:26

fnatic waterproof I speak

2009-11-12 12:24

And my probability of winning the prize increases......as wnv tops the group..!! BTW hard luck FG.great play. And another qualifying round where fnatic just sneaked in.Guess my bet worked on spot...:D

2009-11-12 12:25

1 reply

I believed in them winning the group too!:)

2009-11-12 23:11

As nix0n mentioned you count only round difference between the three teams that are tied if this happens. wNv: 8 fnatic: -2 FG: -6 Strange rule imo and fnatic are damn lucky to still be in this tournament. :/

2009-11-12 12:26

1 reply

I agree, that rule is shit. :P

2009-11-12 23:11

this should be a message to wcg. stop using this stupid and unfair group drawings.

2009-11-12 12:26

16 replies

2009-11-12 12:27

This isn't the first time. Remember the epic fnatic-eSTRO-mibr group? :DDD

2009-11-12 12:29

10 replies

who can forget? firegamers really deserved to move on.

2009-11-12 12:31

9 replies

and why they lost to weaker wnv :(

2009-11-12 12:34

8 replies

wNv isn't weaker, the deserve to move on as well. But there will be several teams inferior to FG in the playoff, that's for sure.

2009-11-12 12:37

2 replies

i knew that.i just remind them fg>all is wrong:)

2009-11-12 12:43

1 reply

did anyone say fg>all?

2009-11-12 15:56

my point is that when a team like firegamers, who have the skill to beat the best team in the world, go out in the group stage, while duskbin!!! a team who probaly will go out in the first round of the knockout stages, moves on. there is something wrong

2009-11-12 18:12

2 replies

yep this is make sense.terrible group draw responsible for this hard situation:)

2009-11-13 01:02

1 reply

indeed

2009-11-13 11:44

Apparently wNv weren't weaker?:)

2009-11-12 23:12

1 reply

i knew i knew ty for reminded me.

2009-11-13 01:06

so what rules they should choose?

2009-11-12 12:33

3 replies

Simply make 3 seed groups like ESWC. 8 top teams, 8 high and 8 middle, and the draw one to every group.

2009-11-12 12:39

2 replies

totally agree :)

2009-11-12 12:41

Why not just make 5 when they're up and going..

2009-11-12 23:12

-.-

2009-11-12 12:27

aspx's!!!!! :D

2009-11-12 12:27

IF IS HEAD TO HEAD FG IS NOT OUT BCZ THEY BEAT FNATIC AND THEY HAVE THE SAME 9 POINTS LOL WTF

2009-11-12 12:27

1 reply

yes, but if you have an iq over 50 u understand that the round difference between these teams looks like this: wnv20:10 fg wnv14:16 fnatic fg 17:13 fnatic = wnv +8, fnatic -2, fg -6 1. wnv 2. fnatic 3. fg

2009-11-12 15:06

CHINAS FUDIDOS.. ROBO E S+

2009-11-12 12:28

key words italiced In case of 3 or more teams having the same number of points, the following rules will be applied in order listed: a) Head To Head (The winner of the matches between the affected teams) b) Number of in-game rounds won during group matches between the affected teams. c) Number of in-game rounds won during group matches d) Rematch (The map will be drawn.). e) If all of the teams do not qualify to advance to the next phase, they are deemed tied with same ranking. in this situation solution a) doesnt work out due to each team has a win. heres the result of solution b): WNV +8 FNATIC -2 FG -6

2009-11-12 12:28

wnv and fnatic go to next stage .. ;(

2009-11-12 12:28

so wandful games,and goolluck for FG!

2009-11-12 12:29

wtf??? L@L 25-5 score!!

2009-11-12 12:30

Really sad for FG, it was their golden chance to make it big. :((

2009-11-12 12:30

wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_match_sin.. 1st of the gruop is on the top , 2nd is bellow. SO WNV is top of the match.fnatic place 2nd..this is the WCG rule..

2009-11-12 12:30

1 reply

www.wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_match_single_2009.asp?sort=G090404100

2009-11-12 23:13

I knew that Fnatic lost this match because I played the betting and I knew HAHAHHAHA 11:00 12/11 WCG 2009 fnatic vs FireGamers 2.5 2 2

2009-11-12 12:31

FG PASSO!

2009-11-12 12:32

1 reply

serio manolo?

2009-11-12 12:34

FG>wNv someday........

2009-11-12 12:32

2 replies

anyday.. you mean ?

2009-11-12 15:03

1 reply

Apparently not?

2009-11-12 23:14

Chinese thieves stole !!!!! his small penis, go roba go, just because organizing ta .. weak! NOOOB, fg > wNv. easy ! sorry LOSER sorry LOSER sorry LOSER!!!!!!!!!!

2009-11-12 12:33

6 replies

You know, that the rulebook was published way before the tournament, and it was available to anyone, right?

2009-11-12 12:35

they lost to wnv directly.so balme ur amazing fg lost to such weak team and go fvck yourself :) wow loser

2009-11-12 12:36

Watch ur dirty shitty mouth. wNv simply is better than FG. There's no point in counting the points difference between lower teams. Nuff said.

2009-11-12 12:37

fg played great, however the rules are the rules and they were published way before the event started so...., dont be a sore loser

2009-11-12 12:37

you are a joke!!!

2009-11-12 12:51

but you do know nothing~~wNv was 21：9 FG，not 20:10,had u watch the game?

2009-11-12 13:02

it seems so cruel when u look at group A with the only half good team being millennium. wcg still seem to be incompetent at making groups

2009-11-12 12:34

2 replies

true. but seedings make it boring to spectators, you can pretty much know who will advance

2009-11-12 13:06

1 reply

u have a point but dont you see that now we are left with a less interesting bracket as strong teams will face weak teams who have no right to be this far in the competition

2009-11-12 14:50

FG>>ALL SEMPRE SERA..

2009-11-12 12:34

FG deserved the spot..

2009-11-12 12:38

LOL. There's nothing more than a funny situation. WCG Rules are different of all other tournaments. That's good to see how unfair are the rules and the groups of this event =). If the rules were different, It would change ALL of positions in the group. So , is it fair ?

2009-11-12 12:39

2 replies

what is so unfair ? they went by the score diff between the teams , btw if they were to go by the esl rules, the standing were : 1.fnatic 2.wnv so....

2009-11-12 12:40

The groups are unfair, but are a rules are not. In fact there are several other tournaments with this kind of rule (considering only the round difference of the teams tied).

2009-11-12 12:41

this is not true :/ wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_profile_t.. 25-5...

2009-11-12 12:40

1 reply

www.wcg.com/6th/tournament/2009/tm_profile_team_detail.asp?match_type=full&matchno=M09102810010

2009-11-12 23:16

let's vote about the team we want to adv. FG will be around 85% and wnv the rest so chinese with strange glasses donot speak.

2009-11-12 12:42

2 replies

This is not voting for your favorite team ok?...Fair game refers to game played under rules.Preference decides nothing.

2009-11-12 13:44

Eh.. so?

2009-11-12 23:16

did fnatic now go home or have other play? i did not understand the WCG rules and playing :/

2009-11-12 12:43

1 reply

fnatic and wNv advanced, FireGamers are out.

2009-11-12 12:45

wnv just a new line-up and win fg so easy.. then FG>wnv=NO chance and no day. wnv>>> fg. this is so faily . hltv.org'preview of group B had said FNTIC WNV.there was no FG.everyone know FG just can win others in the group

2009-11-12 12:44

Groups are really unfair looks b and c and then for example d and g. In d h2k play with some mixes from mirc :D and in g tyloo and again easy. I dont know who created that

2009-11-12 12:45

FireGamers Win: 22+25+10+17= 74 round Loss: 8+5+20+13= 46 round wNv.cn Win: 19+19+14+20= 72 round Loss 11+11+16+10= 48 round FireGamers>wNv.cn

2009-11-12 12:45

1 reply

I agree that the round difference between all teams should be counted first.

2009-11-12 23:17

if use the normal rule:wnv+8 fn-2 fg-6 if forest did not defuse the bomb,a +8 team will be out,that means wcg rule sucks so much.

2009-11-12 12:46

#131 wNv is better than FG ? lol they just won against the top 1 team in the world on their finest map... now u do the math. These rules are so unfair

2009-11-12 12:46

3 replies

train is NOT fnatic best map.....and actuallly many teams have won over fnatic in BO1 this year..fnatic would probably win in a BO3 match. And yes wnv is a better team...one good match vs fnatic doesnt say so much.

2009-11-12 12:48

wNv 20:10 FireGamers and FG is better than wNv now who should do the math?:)

2009-11-12 12:51

And wNv beat FG, period.

2009-11-12 23:20

wNv and FG should of gone through but this is the way it is.

2009-11-12 12:47

lol brazil fanboyz' show time.

2009-11-12 12:47

Great game for fg, but it's not entirely a rule issue. If they would've won (or loose a little bit narrowed) against wnv, they wouldn't have been sent home so early. It's not like wcg organizers said "Let's take this dudes out of the tournament 'cause we don't like them".

2009-11-12 12:50

2 replies

in that case fnatic would have gone out!Whoosh!!!Then there would have been Swedish guys on berserk in this thread just like Brazilians are, at this moment

2009-11-12 12:52

1 reply

so lucky forest defused the bomb in the last moment.

2009-11-12 13:02

Just answering #143... In the ESL Rules , 1-> Fnatic 2-> FireGamers 3-> wNv The game between FireGamers and xcn at nuke was 25-05, I watched all the game. So, I still thinking if a game decided by (problematic?) rules are really fair. edit : If f0rest did not defuse in the last round, so fnatic (top team of the world) would be out of play offs.

2009-11-12 12:54

3 replies

Enough man!Rules have been told to each and every team long before!Now stop crying like a bitch....

2009-11-12 12:53

2 replies

Its hard for most ppl to see a team who has beaten fnatic being kicked off WCG by a team that can only play d2, well, FG played great, it sucks, true, but theres nothing we can do :|

2009-11-12 12:56

1 reply

blame on the unfair group.fg would easily get 1st in group a:(

2009-11-12 13:05

nocoments wcg --'

2009-11-12 12:54

sad rules, n/c

2009-11-12 12:55

wcg _CHENGDU_ that's the truth =P no more comments

2009-11-12 12:58

2 replies

The X-WCG in Chengdu "the truth is out there" :D

2009-11-12 13:13

It's not like they changed the rules when this situation came up, you ignorant tramp..

2009-11-12 23:22

#169 im not saying FG>wNv they are both really great teams... i think they are in the same level and i dont think no one can tell who is better, just my opnion.

2009-11-12 12:58

1 reply

that's quite true indeed after all, there are really not much differences between those top teams but if the rules are unfair, they are unfair to every team involved this time it just turned out to be disadvantageous to FG

2009-11-12 13:22

hahaha Brazil fanboys xD

2009-11-12 13:00

haha , [unknown country] fan boy

2009-11-12 13:01

rules were known before the tournament started, so stop whining, if fg and wnv situation was switched, wnv would pack... its just lame to blame the rules, theyre the same for everyone. the only thing which is a little unfair is the way groups are being drawn (unfair to better teams). However if a team wants to win the tournament group doesnt mattet.

2009-11-12 13:01

#154 stupid arrangement to groups. gg fg

2009-11-12 13:02

What eco strategy was this?

2009-11-12 13:02

1 reply

I didn't watch the game, but my guess is the triple deagle and double AK.

2009-11-12 23:22

WCG is in China, so China team advanced to Playoffs. Simple.

2009-11-12 13:02

4 replies

ur brain is kinda small , right

2009-11-12 13:07

1 reply

I doubt he has one.

2009-11-12 23:23

where are you came from? sorry for that I don't know the flag of your country. What a shame, my ditry girl?

2009-11-13 01:56

1 reply

Lithuania, u fucking small slack chinese boy :D:D

2009-11-13 09:06

i also think that they are both good teams,but the rules let the fg home . it.s fair

2009-11-12 13:02

hope for better group draw next time

2009-11-12 13:04

Ok , so tell me, if FG wins 1 more round against fnatic, fnatic would be out now. So, I really did not know the rules till now, but tell me, do you really think it is the best way to decide ? Is it fair enough ? wcg _CHENGDU_ like I said.

2009-11-12 13:05

3 replies

yep it's the most fair way imo.

2009-11-12 13:07

Not commentin on your question.But let me comment this :Stop being fucking moral/intellectual police discussing pros and cons of the rules which have been told to each and every team long before the tournament started.It is not like that God descended and put his words in Forest ears to defuse the bomb in the last round otherwise you are are going home..... It was all hard luck and FG took the bullet.Simple.

2009-11-12 13:10

Would Fg had won another round they would have still place third

2009-11-12 16:03

dont worry firegamers. u guys rock ! .doesnt matter if u r out of the tournament. sexed out win against fnatic :)

2009-11-12 13:05

Demos will be up when?

2009-11-12 13:05

wNv 20 - fg 10 that says it all

2009-11-12 13:06

2 replies

21:9 or 20:10 ,i watched the game,it`s21:9???

2009-11-12 13:12

1 reply

20:10.

2009-11-12 23:28

fnatic are leading on the GOTFRAG WEBSITE

2009-11-12 13:06

3 replies

Gotfrag sucks?:)

2009-11-12 23:28

2 replies

i agree with you so much

2009-11-13 01:58

1 reply

A lot of people do. ;)

2009-11-13 19:57

buahahahahahaha FNATIC LOSE :O

2009-11-12 13:08

where are the bloody demos lol

2009-11-12 13:10

If Bruno won the last round fnatic and fg would have -4 > fg second

2009-11-12 13:11

1 reply

Then overarell fnatic would have 29+ rounds, fg would have 25+, fnatic advances.

2009-11-12 13:17

are u shittin me? thats totally not fair. fg are much betta that wnv and fuck is wrong wit groups? we got 2 so called groups of death and some weak shit like group D and H. thats not fair man :(

2009-11-12 13:12

5 replies

fg are much betta that wnv so fg should advanced then it will be FAIR

2009-11-12 13:19

4 replies

How can you say that?

2009-11-12 23:29

3 replies

hes trying to be ironic bout the word FAIL that #212 was talkin about :)

2009-11-13 03:34

2 replies

thaN :(

2009-11-13 06:23

It wasn't easy to understand he was ironic... haha

2009-11-13 19:54

wnv sucks at ALL

2009-11-12 13:22

3 replies

you noob rules were created before the matches wnv and fg equal teams but fg without luck ;]ouch you sly dog:D:D:D

2009-11-12 13:29

what a genius !

2009-11-12 13:24

hey,guys.. if wnv sucks at ALL why the team advance of 1st? i think they ar always a great team like fnatic,FG. so ar u a good cser?or better than them?

2009-11-12 13:32

FG good JOB, bad luck in the draw for the group and the drawing of maps

2009-11-12 13:16

WCG system sucks.

2009-11-12 13:27

4 replies

wcg rules

2009-11-12 13:34

wtf ?! fg lost to wnv , even in esl rules FG wouldnt have moved on so wtf ?! wcg rules are ok. read them and understand.

2009-11-12 13:33

2 replies

WCG group balance is ok? Ok then if you say so...

2009-11-12 14:17

and fnatic lost to fg ^^

2009-11-12 14:48

lol

2009-11-12 13:33

bad that they are out :/

2009-11-12 13:39

haha, So nice :)

2009-11-12 13:46

I do not understand, on the next page ( mibr.com.br/?p=16383 ) notes that as wNv Firegamers both have the same rounds won to lost. Now, because I spend wNv Firegamers not?

2009-11-12 15:28

1 reply

www.mibr.com.br/?p=16383 Head to head rounds are counted first.

2009-11-12 23:30

said, fuck wnv !!!!!!!!!!!!!

2009-11-12 15:45

1 reply

dude, you should fvck youself first, then fvck wcg rules second, then your cock will be the biggest in the world and years later somebody will say that:"OH, yes the guy has the biggest tool is a totally FOOL!"

2009-11-13 02:05

One moment, in this other page shows ( proplay.ru/articles/11618/ ) Firegamers won by 25 to 5 to Executioners and not 23 to 7 as shown by other pages. By god, they are doing? Would have to haver Firegamers past and not wNv

2009-11-12 15:45

1 reply

www.proplay.ru/articles/11618 That match didn't affect the group placing.

2009-11-12 23:31

FG Won by 25x5 ¬¬ not 23x7!

2009-11-12 15:52

1 reply

Doesn't matter?

2009-11-12 23:31

The HUGE ammount of stupidity wandering around this thread baffles me! Do the maths!!!! Rules are completely fair. The problem here is the lack of seedings, which to me appears absurd.

2009-11-12 16:06

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That rules are you talking to me please, would have to haver Firegamers past and what it would have to haver echo this in the rules of the WCG. For rounds unlike the Brazilian team wNv had but not vice versa. First, inform yourself, then talk.

2009-11-12 16:10

6 replies

Dude, I really would like to discuss this with you but I can't decypher your language. However I will make myself clear: Let's see the rules (which are obviously fair): a) Head To Head (The winner of the matches between the affected teams) b) Number of in-game rounds won during group matches between the affected teams. c) Number of in-game rounds won during group matches d) Rematch (The map will be drawn.). e) If all of the teams do not qualify to advance to the next phase, they are deemed tied with same ranking Rule a) doesn't apply Rule b): fnatic x wNv : 16 - 14 fnatic x FG : 13 - 17 FG x wNv : 10 - 20 fnatic's rounds: 29 wNv's rounds: 31 FG's rounds: 27 wNv places first, fnatic places second, FG places third. First inform yourself, then talk.

2009-11-12 16:17

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LOL ? fnatic [25:5] Executioners fnatic [16:14] wNv fnatic [21:9] DINC fnatic [13:17] Firegamers won: 75 loss: 45 DINC [11:19] wNv Executioners [11:19] wNv fnatic [16:14] wNv Firegamers [10:20] wNv won: 72 loss: 48 Firegamers [22:8] DINC Firegamers [25:5] Executioners Firegamers [10:20] wNv fnatic [13:17] Firegamers won: 74 loss: 46 fnatic firegames wNv Do not think I'm crazy:)

2009-11-12 16:38

4 replies

come on crazy boy b) Number of in-game rounds won during group matches between the affected teams.

2009-11-12 16:42

3 replies

Please understand and forgive me for arguing Eklipse something without understanding the whole.

2009-11-12 16:47

1 reply

Yey I won!

2009-11-12 16:56

No pienso que la regla es tan in justa.Es por que he experimentado esta situacion antes cuando tenia un partido contra otros grupos.Ya me he aconstumbrado a jugar como asi.

2009-11-13 12:35