wooSai lose Finnish squad

8-12-2009 19:52

wooSai have lost their Finnish Counter-Strike 1.6 squad, following a series of missing payments.

The Finnish team Elukkaveljekset joined up with the wooSai organization prior to QR2 for the European Championship in Extreme Masters IV.

The team managed to reach the group stage, where they finished fourth, one win away from being qualified to play the relegation stages. The team furthermore attended DreamHack Winter qualifier in Estonia, where the team went to take top spot which qualified them for DreamHack Winter. At DreamHack Winter the team crashed in the round of 16, following a 2-0 loss against Millenium.

The team has however today announced that they have left the organization, as the team never got what was promised, contracts and payments for events. Daniel "RAGE" Andersson, team manager explains the situation in regards of leaving wooSai:

"First before we became officially wooSai, the agreement was that if we will be able to pass the QR2 group of EM, wooSai will pay for us the trip. Till now we got no contract, and we asked for it twice in order to have a legal agreement that we can count on. The guys had to pay 3 travels by their own because wooSai wasn't able to pay those things with a short announcement, although one of the event which was DH Qualifier in Estonia needed just 50€.

After the guys attended to Dreamhack and played on EM QR2 unmotivated due to the trust issues with the organisation, we decided today to part ways from the organisation and find another one that will be able to provide us what that we need.

Now we are looking for a new organisation in hope to walk in a new positive way."

The team has now headed back to Elukkaveljekset, with the transition back to their old home, the team announce that Anton "RUMBLE" Mikkola has left the team, as he will be serving the Finnish army soon. The team picks up former Power Gaming member Miikka "dRiim" Toroi to fill in as the new fifth.

Elukkaveljekset consist of following:

Miikka "dRiim" Toroi
Otto "danzer" Dimitrow
Jirka "jigetus" Ryhti
Kimmo "BASiC" Fagerholm
Markus "shaker" Pyysalo

The team will now spend time to find a new organization, before deciding what the plans for 2010 will look like.

Finish gamers do not seem to be lucky with organisations :/ gl finding a new one, they'd deserver sincere support!

2009-12-08 19:55

gl in future guys

a good lineup just got better

2009-12-08 19:56

Nowdays you cant trust even a single org.

2009-12-08 19:59

driim and jigetus = power :PPpPPppPpppp

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this isnt fragbite

2009-12-09 11:54

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So?

2009-12-18 19:22

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No need for unnecessary spam and childisch behavior

2009-12-18 19:43

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Spam? There is more childish behaviour here than at FB imo..

2009-12-21 23:40

damn suck they had to pay for all by their own.. gl in future guys driim was in munkka before right?

2009-12-08 20:02

team empty

That lineup has potential. jigetus is nasty.

2009-12-08 20:03

I hope that we will have better luck in the future with organisations :) Good luck in the army Anton <3333333333 keep your search for the golden pussy. And ofcourse good luck to Miikka in the team :) great great player.

2009-12-08 20:04

bad german organisation

2009-12-08 20:08

sad

2009-12-08 20:09

AGAiN in? >_< o_0

2009-12-08 20:15

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Trust me, they DONT want to join an organisation that will not be able to pay trips for them.

2009-12-08 20:16

AGAiN is a team not an organisation ;p

2009-12-08 20:27

Consider your answer again mate :-)

2009-12-08 20:34

Read again, then fix your comment.

2009-12-08 20:54

Why'd they want an organization like that? :\

2009-12-08 20:19

in fx...

2009-12-08 20:26

in eSpmania.pl

2009-12-08 20:28

if "they" have money - id have nothing AGAINst :P

2009-12-10 19:55

Look around you Polish fanboi what a mess you created.

2009-12-08 21:34

I doubt again is an organization.

again is team (neo taz lord kuben luq) witch called them like this after lost last org.

2009-12-08 20:31

So I was saying..:]

2009-12-08 20:35

german orgas always try to trick someone:/

2009-12-08 20:30

BTW should be no problem for them to find a good organisation :P I dunno why big shots like Sk or Fnatic, don't sign any other teams from around the world..

Strong lineup. Nice to see driim finding a good team.

2009-12-08 20:40

Wasn't CC good enough?..

2009-12-18 19:24

Good luck!

2009-12-08 20:44

Why cant u read the whole text before asking stupid questions?

2009-12-08 20:43

hope jigetus find a new home !!

2009-12-08 20:52

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What? Try reading the news again :)

2009-12-08 21:20

What? He obviously means jigetus (and the rest of EGC) hopefully finds a new organization to play for.

2009-12-09 10:28

I doubt that was what he originally meant, but you just made him look smarter than I think he is. :D

2009-12-18 19:26

Is there actually a reason you're replying to 2-4 week old news? :s

2009-12-18 23:39

Yes, I read through everything I have missed and I make the replies I want to. ;) Btw, it was just 10 days old when you replied..

2009-12-21 23:35

nice! gl

2009-12-08 20:59

wooSai is a such a joke, I can't believe teams are still joining up with them.

2009-12-08 21:03

The former danish woosai team left because of the lack of money.. Therefore it suprised me alot, that the finish players joined shortly afterwards.

2009-12-08 21:14

If we only knew that info, we wouldn't.

2009-12-08 21:18

we? are you a part of the team?:P

2009-12-08 23:01

"Daniel 'Rage' A."

2009-12-09 03:44

bad newz , hope to see tham playing as soon as well :)

2009-12-08 21:35

Army? Why is Army really needed for all CS players in Finnish scene? Sorry I don't much about it but I want to know.

2009-12-08 21:43

In Finland all citizens above 18 have to serve in military for 12 months. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland#Military

2009-12-08 21:55

Actually it's 6, 9 or 12 months depending on which occupation the recruit chooses (and if he's chosen for leadership training or not) =)

2009-12-09 10:32

It's national service. Everybody in Finland have to go. (Mens) if they don't have any good a reasons. :P

2009-12-08 22:00

army (6 or 9 or 12 month service). civil service 12-13months. or jail. try to choose from there my friend. or go to army and get e or c papers.

2009-12-08 21:58

Isn't there even a single Finnish eSport organization? Where such talented can have some stability and win some big games.

2009-12-08 21:56

Yeah. Here is like maiJaw, eXelon etc. but nobody have sponsors. :p

2009-12-08 22:02

Not suprising, saw their chat with manager at DH Estonia about paying trips...(secretly ofcourse)

2009-12-08 21:57

brb 7months keep up the good work lads ;===)

2009-12-08 21:59

Haa, are you sure 7months? ;;;>

2009-12-08 22:03

ill prolly hang myself if they keep me for 9 instead of 6.. :D

2009-12-08 22:06

gl ;) dont forget liquid soap

2009-12-08 22:11

Goodluck and HAVE FUN at military service, and dude remember, BE CAREFUL WITH THOSE M4A1's & AWP's :D)

2009-12-09 00:43

There is much better weapons in finnish army ;D RK 62 o/

2009-12-09 03:50

Sascha, woosai owner hits back fnatic.com/scenenews/2606/wooSai-hits-ba..

2009-12-08 22:21

Lol, he told 1month ago that he have paid our ESL Premium moneys(10€ each) back. Those haven't yet arrived to my bankaccount though.

2009-12-09 00:37

O yeah thanks for posting that link, btw the story looks very diffrent from this one ;D

2009-12-09 00:38

www.fnatic.com/scenenews/2606/wooSai-hits-back.html :)

2009-12-09 11:05

I'm looking forward to a sequel!

2009-12-18 19:28

ex-wooSai 2nd best team in finland :D

2009-12-08 22:41

There's always two sides of the story, keep that in mind.

2009-12-09 00:40

www.fnatic.com/scenenews/2606/wooSai-hits-back.html

They are really nice team, the new addition is also pretty good :) I wish them goodluck in fiding orga!

glgl gogogo

wazzap:D

2009-12-09 02:25

"their team manager now defends them, following Dreamhack he asked me to kick the Counter-Strike team and get a new one, because allegedly they were good aimers yet followed no clear tactics." Well stupid Sascha, that's the nice side of me that tried to keep your organisation with a CS team before we leaves. Did you really think that I'm going to leave the squad that I personaly brought to your organisation? if you did, that shows how smart you aren't. And the talking about the other team was also in order to see if you have the ability to support financialy in a team, so I can know if there's something good and worth in wooSai to stay for (for the finnish team) before we decide to leave. But no problem, I don't expect a lot from your brain.. you destroyed wooSai as an organisation, well done, just don't try to be smart on public.

2009-12-09 06:31

So you suggested a new team to find out if woosai could support the old one? What then? Kick the new team and bring back the old one? You got totally busted dude.

2009-12-09 09:55

you are damn right :D

2009-12-09 12:35

Well, it seems like your'e not that smart aswell. I didn't gave a "yes" or "no" answer to the team that wanted to join wooSai, but I had also in mind the option of bringing a new team to wooSai in case we leave and wooSai has a little amount of money to support them. But wooSai didn't have even that - and the other team already got an organisation and we left. My main goal was to talk with Sascha about it in order to know if in the future (the near one) they will have a way to support the finnish team. Busted? no, that's just the way of Sascha to get away from his unprofessional behave as the head manager of wooSai , and I'm not the only one to say that , also the previous teams of wooSai says so, and also "Dave" - the ex CEO of wooSai says so .... Sascha couldn't even make a contract , and he just based his statement on that "50 euroes" line that I gave because he couldn't comment on the other things. Everything he will say, I can give him back an answer that will proove him wrong and show him how unprofessional he was and how wooSai can't support a team. Nothing else to add, you weren't part of the organisation so you don't know what happend from our side , we did nothing wrong.

2009-12-09 13:15

Change your flag.

2009-12-18 19:29

Bah..... GL finding a new one..

2009-12-09 10:10

RUMBLE gonna pwn in the army

2009-12-09 11:01

OK, I will say it once again - dRiim is clanhoper

2009-12-09 11:29

can you be more specific? for what i know, there are only 2clans in finland, how am i hopping between them?

2009-12-09 14:21

That was just stupid, MAYBE BECAUSE CLANS HAVE BEEN CREATED AND THEN TOSSED INTO THE LITTER BIN AFTER 2 WEEKS?

2009-12-18 19:30

anyone has ideas to get sapphire hd 3850 (512mb)agp graphic card work with counter strike 1.6 well i dont think anyone knows because nobody knows from internet and nobody knows from sapphire support. but if someone might have the same card (and what i mean to get working is to get 100fps without problem and not a 40-100fps, and yeah i have directx9.0c and new drivers and set vertical sync off and try everything from the ati settings and all the new games work better than cs 1.6) excample assasing creed.

2009-12-09 13:27

Make a thread about it.

gl jige

2009-12-09 16:01

CS.fi is not stable!!!

2009-12-10 16:42

JIGETUSS

2009-12-10 20:32

2009-12-11 00:10

This is sad, I believed in wooSai as an organization. I hope this team ends up in a stable organization that can bring them to the top, because I know they have the potential to do it. I just hope that dRiim is good for the team, I doubt it... The 3-4 latest teams he joined didn't really go well after his arrival. :P

2009-12-18 19:31