Alternate sign b4d

Team Alternate have confirmed the signing of Bastian "b4d" Gaffron from n!faculty.

The German giants had been linked with roster changes since the EPS season came to an end, with reports in Germany indicating veteran Jan "mooN" Stolle to be close to retirement.

Bastian "b4d" Gaffron, who had been with n!faculty since October 2007, has now been confirmed as Alternate's new fifth player, replacing Benjamin "paN" von Mulert, who is expected to move in the opposite direction after being confirmed as a stand-in for the Extreme Masters European Finals.


b4d: New Alternate man

This is the second roster changes Alternate undergo ahead of the new season, following the addition of Direnc "seraph" Öz, who will replace Roman "roman" Ausserdorfer.

Team Alternate have now:

Germany Manuel "approx' Zeitz
Germany Jan "mooN" Stolle
Germany Roman "Roman R." Reinhardt
Turkey Direnc "seraph" Öz

Germany Bastian "b4d" Gaffron

#1
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Finland bruft
Keep em coming hltv! Silly season<3
2010-01-08 22:07
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#11
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France Emma W.
seraph is able to play at WCG so he is german, please fix that ..
2010-01-08 22:23
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#37
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Romania chns
maybe he has double citizenship
2010-01-09 00:03
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#2
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Hungary -ZENITH-
nice move
2010-01-08 22:07
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#3
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Turkey insoLent
gL b4d
2010-01-08 22:07
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#4
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Poland Havregryn
HF & GL
2010-01-08 22:08
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#5
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United Kingdom Bullseye2k
I don't know if that's a smart decision to kick paN from the lineup, he's much more experianced than seraph. Having two players that don't have any international experiance like the others have will damage them. mouz tried it with cash and failed, now they are with roman and they will become sick. Anyway, good luck! b4d is great, I'm gonna miss paN.
2010-01-08 22:08
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fnatic tried get_right and gux.. look wot happened =))
2010-01-08 22:39
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#53
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United Kingdom Bullseye2k
Gux and GeT_RiGhT are much more experianced internationally than seraph and b4d ( they played with Blank Giants etc. )
2010-01-09 09:35
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#57
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Germany elevaTor -.-
b4d play cs for a long time! so he will have some good experience!
2010-01-09 12:32
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#69
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United Kingdom Bullseye2k
yeah, but his international experiance isn't good as paN's.
2010-01-09 19:39
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#71
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Germany ice83
At 1sst they have to defend their position IN german. btw nobody knows y pan leaves attax
2010-01-09 19:45
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#81
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Sweden mmmmmicke
b4d has got far more international experience than what Gux had before he joined fnatic. :P
2010-01-15 23:22
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#29
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Netherlands Bruce_1337
i find ur opinion shit. seraph is the replacement of roman so what are u talking about. and what happend to cash is a other story, he was very good international and that he is removed has nothing to do whit his gameplay. be better informed next comment
2010-01-08 23:22
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#32
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Germany NFSPSracer
they didnt kicked pan
2010-01-08 23:43
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#58
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Germany elevaTor -.-
alternate did not kick paN! he leaved them!
2010-01-09 12:35
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#80
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Sweden mmmmmicke
Nobody said they kicked paN.
2010-01-15 23:21
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Hong Kong biox
too bad
2010-01-08 22:08
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#7
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Latvia h3ro1n
nah , bad lineup. paN , roman > seraph b4d =D
2010-01-08 22:09
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#8
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Poland ninus
seraph turkish? isnt that a man who was a stand-in at mouz at wcg? he cant be turkish so paN was kicked for being stand-in for n!? or he want to play in n! permently? imo not good change
2010-01-08 22:11
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He might feature the Turkish flag but still too have German papers ;)
2010-01-08 22:32
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#82
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Sweden mmmmmicke
Germany does not allow dual citizenships, and since he played for mouz during WCG he must be German, therefore the Turkish flag definitely should not be there. ;)
2010-01-15 23:23
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He features Turkish as nationality at his Esl profile thus he should know better than anyone else with regard to this, or even, in the end, be wrong about it.
2010-01-15 23:31
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#23
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Sweden skorpan
same thing as with pita from MYM. He's swedish. Has been living in sweden for all his life though he has a bosnian flag.
2010-01-08 22:56
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#83
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Sweden mmmmmicke
He is a Bosnian citizen though, and he has played for the Bosnian national team for example.
2010-01-15 23:23
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#9
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Portugal Toureiro
rofl what a bad lu : ) ill wait and see
2010-01-08 22:12
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#10
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France Emma W.
seraph is able to play at WCG so he is german, please fix that ..
2010-01-08 22:22
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Do you know if German citizenship excludes any other?
2010-01-08 22:41
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#54
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Germany gn0x
No it does not. ;)
2010-01-09 10:46
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#84
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Sweden mmmmmicke
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_nationality#Citizenship_of_multiple_countries
2010-01-15 23:25
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#12
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Greece CH34732
W T F. attax cant be helped anymore.
2010-01-08 22:24
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#13
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Morocco refug^
Nice line up, my*+n!+aTTaX=?
2010-01-08 22:26
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#16
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Serbia BoJaNNNNN
b4d is a good player,gl
2010-01-08 22:33
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#17
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Poland fx|kuben
Good line up, pretty.
2010-01-08 22:33
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#18
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France souled
strange line up only good players, but there's sth weird
2010-01-08 22:37
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#21
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France Gixxer
Good pickup he was the best player on n!faculty, one of the best in Germany.
2010-01-08 22:44
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#22
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Canada hyu
hmmm whatever happened to cash also b4d is good
2010-01-08 22:45
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Russia AN7Q
GL
2010-01-08 22:58
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#25
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Portugal skyfox
everyone is changing teams, 2010 will be a surprise-year =l
2010-01-08 22:59
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#26
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Sweden Marcus1g
b4d is insane, everyone doubting that have absolutely no clue at all.
2010-01-08 23:16
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#27
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North Macedonia hptxzn
Nice move...Go Alternate!!!
2010-01-08 23:18
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#28
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woxic | 
Turkey EPHESUS
GL b4d & seraph
2010-01-08 23:20
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#30
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Serbia f s h n
interesting line-up, lets see what they can do. HF GL Alternate!
2010-01-08 23:36
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#31
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Turkey AdiosAmigo~
i want to see shiddy there (:
2010-01-08 23:37
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#33
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United Kingdom bitfw
imo. shiddy is overrated :P
2010-01-08 23:44
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#40
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Turkey AdiosAmigo~
i didn't watch him soon, maybe you're right.
2010-01-09 00:23
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#34
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Bulgaria jdh ~
b4d is realy good player... you will see ;]
2010-01-08 23:55
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#35
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Turkey 3xm
gl b4d and seraph
2010-01-08 23:56
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#36
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Russia rojaaaaa
b4d good player
2010-01-08 23:56
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#38
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Poland Qub!c
If mooN retires, CS 1.6 will probably be closed on steam by valve xD I mean this guy plays on the top level like from the beginning? I don't even know these times, well before HeatoN was discovered xDDD
2010-01-09 00:10
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#55
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Sweden Marcus1g
What?
2010-01-09 11:14
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#39
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United Kingdom StaaN:o
alternate will fail without roman
2010-01-09 00:18
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#41
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United States IMkiN
Alternate is just the ultimate swap meat of counter strike. GL to Alternate with b4d
2010-01-09 00:32
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#42
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North America ruin577
this makes me sad, i would love to see: cyx approx moon tixo roman but it wont happen :(
2010-01-09 01:43
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#43
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United States brumzy
seraph is a good pickup right now. We'll see how good of a pickup he was when it comes to how he preforms on LAN. paN was a really good player but he never played as good on LAN as he did online. Not saying he cheats, its just that he doesn't preform well on LAN. I really hope mooN doesn't retire he's one of my fav. players and is probably the smartest ingame leader to ever play this game. b4d, seraph & approx are solid. they really need to replace Roman with a young skilled player who's hungry to not just win, but to play.
2010-01-09 01:51
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#44
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Germany pa$co
Im very sorry for faculty but a huge win for aTTaX
2010-01-09 01:51
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now n! should take cash back otherwise a talent could drop away. ALTERNATE can play with 3 AWPs now.
2010-01-09 02:13
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#46
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Argentina XjeFX
roman out, omg... the best player on the world...
2010-01-09 02:37
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#85
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Sweden mmmmmicke
He decided to join mousesports, they didn't really have a choice.
2010-01-15 23:26
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#47
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France Gixxer
b4d is one of the best players in Germany for all those doubting him, he was the best the player on n!faculty which is THe best german team besides mouz and attax, he is also way better than paN, good move by Alternate. Now all Alternate needs to do is pick up ODIE from n! to replace Roman R.
2010-01-09 03:22
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#48
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Brazil koh^^
ODIE would be nice, but I really miss gerdi, that guy was insane with rifles in his n! times.
2010-01-09 04:57
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#49
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Taiwan IsaacYang
3 AWPerS? mooN apx b4d wait to see : )
2010-01-09 05:48
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#50
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REAL | 
Spain deBurrows
I'm not sure, b4d is really skilled, but paN is more experienced and very skilled too.
2010-01-09 06:40
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#51
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Slovakia calam1ty
b4d is a good pickup no doubt...he will perform well will also add something new to the gameplay
2010-01-09 07:06
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#52
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India WhisKey
i saw this frag movie , e-bash.! and b4d was unbelievable.! but hey that was jus a 15min movie.!
2010-01-09 07:30
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#56
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United Kingdom dasaev
b4d is good pickup, will be see the new signs how can play with stars.
2010-01-09 11:29
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#59
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Turkey Pleasant
good luck. seraph from ? turkey ? germany ?
2010-01-09 13:06
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China zaalex
Turkey!
2010-01-09 15:19
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#86
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Sweden mmmmmicke
Germany.
2010-01-15 23:27
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#60
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Belgium Monu
nice pickups
2010-01-09 13:21
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#61
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Ukraine how-hiGh
hf
2010-01-09 13:45
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#62
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China zaalex
- Roman R. plz!!!
2010-01-09 15:18
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#64
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Belgium ivensch
WRONG ! JUST WRONG, alternate loses power, i bet they cant keep up the top 5 right now with this lineup attax : roman pan moon chef-koch approx <3
2010-01-09 16:00
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#65
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Belgium ivensch
But hey, lets give it a chanse, Good luck all :)
2010-01-09 16:02
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#66
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Netherlands Maniax
b4d is a really good player i saw a couple of vids nice fragger. gl to him and Alternate
2010-01-09 16:45
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#67
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Malta sinapsii
hmmm
2010-01-09 17:33
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#73
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Turkey jagd
are you crazy?? lol seraph from Turkey... But he have 2 citizen...And now turkey flag is correct.Because he is from TURKEY <3 TURKEY TURKISH POWER !!!!
2010-01-10 10:42
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#74
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Europe buddyplsxd
its just that it might confuse cause he is able to play the wcg for attax unlike gob b for mouz :o
2010-01-10 12:34
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#87
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Sweden mmmmmicke
Germany does not allow dual citizenship, and he played WCG for mouz, which means he has a German citizenship, and no Turkish.
2010-01-15 23:28
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#75
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Belgium ivensch
no one can replace roman thats my opinion
2010-01-10 20:22
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#76
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Algeria azizxp5
very bad news for ALTERNATE aTTaX :/
2010-01-10 22:05
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#77
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Turkey 45DaDy45
GL b4d & seraph seraph turkish boys :)
2010-01-11 12:06
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#78
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Portugal pshhh
I miss flekz :(
2010-01-12 15:57
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