EM World Finals group draw

1-2-2010 23:47

The group draw for the Extreme Masters IV World Championship Finals has been made, and ten teams have learned their fate.

There are still two slots in the tournament up for grabs, which will be handed to the winner and the runner-up of the Asian Continental Finals, scheduled for this weekend.

The Extreme Masters World Championship Finals will take place at CeBIT in Hannover, Germany, from March 2-6, with twelve teams from three different continents involved.

Defending champions fnatic, who skipped the IOL Finals last weekend, have been handed a tricky task after being paired with mousesports' new team and Scandinavian rival, mTw. oXmoze, Evil Geniuses, and Asia's runner-up make up the rest of the group.

Group B sees SK Gaming go head-to-head with fellow countrymen Meet Your Makers, who have yet to announce their last player. The remaining teams are Ravens, KerchNET, compLexity and the Asian champion.

Extreme Masters Global Finals draw in full:

Group A	Group B
fnatic	SK Gaming
mousesports	Roskilde Ravens
oXmoze	/A/
mTw	Meet Your Makers
Evil Geniuses	compLexity
Asia #2	Asia #1

HLTV.org will be in Hannover to provide you with full coverage of the tournament, so stay tuned to our website.

Groupe A is tough!

2010-02-01 23:48

33 replies

indeed omg gl fnatic and EG

2010-02-02 07:23

yeah group A is tough but B ain't easy either..

2010-02-02 08:59

31 replies

True, but I still think groupe A is tougher :-)

2010-02-02 09:51

30 replies

imo B is tougher :-)

2010-02-02 10:29

29 replies

Well coL and MYM lowers it IMO.

2010-02-02 10:35

11 replies

never underestimate that kind of teams :P

2010-02-02 10:38

1 reply

Well i don't underestimate, but if you look at it overall, it lowers it when you look at group A

2010-02-02 10:51

so does Ravens

2010-02-02 13:40

3 replies

Lmao, ok.

2010-02-02 13:54

2 replies

yeah 1 tournament isn't an epic achievement, especially when u don't even win.

2010-02-02 14:43

1 reply

2010-02-02 15:01

Imo CoL > EG but yeah i think group A is tougher :)

2010-02-03 19:58

what ? you must be joking that mym lowers it , theyre better than ravens imo , or at least in the same line with them.

2010-02-05 16:05

3 replies

If they're at the same line with Ravens or not, they still lower it imo

2010-02-05 19:15

2 replies

and ravens does not ? i dont get your logic

2010-02-05 22:22

1 reply

I didn't they don't? :)

2010-02-06 00:27

LOL HOW? Group A Group B fnatic > SK Gaming mousesports > Roskilde Ravens oXmoze < /A/ mTw > Meet Your Makers Evil Geniuses > compLexity

2010-02-02 13:14

8 replies

i wouldn't count out Ravens yet, wait till they gain some more experience. We'll see what happens :)

2010-02-02 13:23

1 reply

I don't count them out. I just say that mousesports are better. There's a difference :P

2010-02-02 14:01

Why do you think EG > coL ?

2010-02-03 19:59

5 replies

Because they are better.

2010-02-03 20:31

4 replies

Bad arguments => Epic Fail!

2010-02-03 22:13

3 replies

What makes you better.

2010-02-03 22:55

2 replies

If you use the fact that EG won EM IV America against coL in final in december 2009 i'd reply that coL did better results against European teams on international competitions. 3rd place at Dreamhack winter 2009... just see the stats from Hltv and watch some demos man to get some arguments! No offense.

2010-02-03 23:19

1 reply

I still think they are better. coL's best player, hero, left them not long time ago, so I would still put EG over coL.

2010-02-04 15:02

group A: fnatic, mousesports, mtw @ nearly the same level group B: SK is outstanding, cause ravens, MYM and arbalet are a bit ( just a bit ) worse. If 3 teams will go through from each group, then it doesnt matter. But if only 2, then a top 5 team will drop out from group A, and the playoffs wont be so good.

2010-02-02 15:53

7 replies

I dont think mTw is now on the same level as fnatic... they have to prove it now... also mouz are once up, once down

2010-02-02 16:07

5 replies

beat them at Dreamhack and had 3rd WCG, 2nd Dreamhack and 2nd Arbalet, don't count them out cause of one bad tournament, plus i'm pretty sure that Sunde is back for this tournament. although i really don't think any team is on par with Fnatic atm tbh...

2010-02-02 17:40

4 replies

i think if roman plays good then mouz would be motivated and would do good... group b has teams roughly on the same level /A/ will challenge them like hell...don't underestimate them... sk is not as good as everyone thinks.. and ravens did top sk also recently.. mym is good and we know it...complexity is nothing special so they don't count but... in group A fnatic and mousesports are just too strong for everyone else...

2010-02-02 20:05

3 replies

I'd say if mTw pracc hard and Sunde is back with motivation they can beat Mouse, imo they got better players and better teamwork (ofc. i am danish so might have something to do with it), Sunde, Trace and Zonic are all equal to Roman i think. But we'll have to see, will be a really close group i think some spots will probably only be chosen on round difference...

2010-02-02 22:12

2 replies

Well, mTw has had a solid defense for over the past years. If they find shape again like they used too before all the changes they are kind of unbeatable.

2010-02-03 09:43

1 reply

tbh i think they're in better shape than pre-changes, they were kinda sloppy i think. people judge them too much on the recent placing at EM europe IV. look at the other placings at WCG, DH and Arbalet top 3 in all of them, and they had the same amount of top teams. That's pretty consistent considering WCG was right after changes and DH and Arbalet was with stand-ins

2010-02-03 21:09

Don't count out Ravens and MYM. They're pretty good to, and I think complexity is pretty good to, so GROUP B, don't underestimate them. (':

2010-02-02 21:21

gogo mtw,rr,knet. the besttttt

2010-02-01 23:50

2 replies

Na`Vi the best :P

2010-02-02 06:59

1 reply

yes they are :D

2010-02-02 09:22

sick group A! go mTw!

2010-02-01 23:51

firegames had to be in the group a or b, but fail

2010-02-01 23:52

OMFG! GROUP A LOOOOL

2010-02-01 23:53

Group A is very strong, i think: A: fnatic/mtw/oXz(i'm french to^^) B: SK/Knet/MYM but we d'ont know asians tems so...

2010-02-01 23:54

3 replies

Ya.. Gr A is tough...My picks group A : 1. fnatic 2. mouz 3. mTw/EG [depends on Sunde...how he plays after returning from his break] group B : In this group a lot depends on the 5th mYm and how much practice they get... 1. SK 2. /A/ 3. Ravens/mYm. I am a mYm fan though...but sadly not very hopeful for them.

2010-02-02 10:15

2 replies

don't count us out ;)

2010-02-03 17:05

1 reply

this time finish in #1 not in #2

2010-02-04 17:47

looks easier than the european tournament tough one for oXmoze, even though both group seem rather equal so tyloo won't be there btw?

2010-02-01 23:55

2 replies

there are spots in both groups for the first and second place winners of EM Asia finals so tyloo may be there.

2010-02-02 00:13

1 reply

Nope they aren't allowed to participate in the asian qualifier because they of visa rules for Taiwan/China.

2010-02-02 00:27

my god.... group A is hard. gl to danish teams and eg!! Hope mtw make some damage.. not like the last event :s

2010-02-01 23:56

Is Sunde already back from America?

2010-02-01 23:58

11 replies

Yes, he returned end of last month.

2010-02-02 00:11

10 replies

That should have made a headline!

2010-02-02 00:21

2 replies

Not really news, when it's a planned comeback everyone has known about for months.

2010-02-02 00:34

1 reply

I was just kidding :P

2010-02-02 00:35

mTw doing regular trainings everyday???

2010-02-02 01:57

6 replies

They're doing some pracc with sunde at the moment, not sure how much, but i guess it'll be intensified as the event draws closer.

2010-02-02 02:18

5 replies

What about mJe ? Will he make a comeback or minet'll fill his spots again ?

2010-02-02 09:08

4 replies

mJe stopped playing, minet was never just filling spots, he's been a regular member from the moment he joined.

2010-02-02 11:59

3 replies

Thanks for info. I was hoping mJe will be back. It is just dream.

2010-02-02 15:25

yeah his studying right ? anyway i hope he would come back and take minet's spot. nothing against him but mJe is just unreplaceable imo. with lineup like that they would dominate like they did 08 mJe Sunde ave trace zonic = dreamteam =)

2010-02-02 15:47

1 reply

+1!

2010-02-02 23:06

GO EG n0thing > ALL! :-D

2010-02-01 23:59

gl Na'Vi

2010-02-02 00:01

fnatic/mouz SK/Kerchnet

2010-02-02 00:04

looking forward too see fnatic vs mouz :D

2010-02-02 00:07

too bad there's no again :p anyways a lot of good teams

2010-02-02 00:08

Grupo A fnatic mousesports Evil Geniuses Grupo B MYM /A/ compLexity

2010-02-02 00:11

2 replies

LOL @groupB

2010-02-02 00:24

lol you're american^^.

2010-02-02 12:43

i am wondering who mym will pick for 5th :/

2010-02-02 00:17

imo Group A fnatic mTw mouz Group B /A/ SK Ravens Asian teams showed that they're not in good shape at Arbalet Cup,Complexity is a mix,EG lost their positions,young MYM squad Anyhow,will be interesting,can't wait

2010-02-02 00:22

3 replies

i think Tyloo wasn't in bad shape, they were stong especially GoodRifle's awp^^...just Na'Vi was stronger that day...after loosing Na'Vi, Tyloo broke into a low braket where were beated by Forze because of their poor morale...my opinion

2010-02-02 00:43

2 replies

Arbalet UA morale is one of the strongest,they rly can demotivate any enemy with their scream,Zeus told that they can beat them in game,they can beat em with morale,and even irl :D probably Arbalet found their game,found their shape,and they were preapared for this tourney like no one another Going further I can see this team is going to be in top3 world,I think they can

2010-02-02 01:56

1 reply

"they can beat them in game,they can beat em with morale,and even irl :D" That made my day. Soo true LOL. Both are tough groups.. but Group A has 3 of the top 5 teams in the world so that makes it the harder of the two.. And I'm hoping to see /A/ kicks some ass again. =D

2010-02-02 11:22

group a has 4 teams that can all win the whole thing so uhhhhhhh

2010-02-02 00:26

2 replies

fnatic, mousesports, mtw and...who's the 4th?

2010-02-02 14:49

1 reply

oXmoze i assume , or i would at least count them as equal with these 3. they have really good and motivated team now so need just give some time for them to improve. and that drizzer is just amazing player!

2010-02-05 16:19

c'mon mtw's :)

2010-02-02 00:28

Gl oxmoze

2010-02-02 00:29

Group A mousesports fnatic mtw / oxmoze Group B /A/ SK ASIA #1 :D

2010-02-02 00:29

No matter what teams qualify from the Asian finals, they are going to get raped at this. WMF and titans are both horrible atm, and i seriously doubt immunity is on a level that can compete with any of these teams. Hoping to see RRavens and mTw cruising through to the play-offs, but both groups are looking pretty tough.

2010-02-02 00:33

group A is really tough...gl mTw,can't wait for Sunde's comeback...trace will show his true abilities here,when Sunde is back... my opinion on groups: A: 1.mouz 2.fnatic 3.mTw B: 1.SK 2./A/ 3.coL

2010-02-02 00:40

Group A seems harder but in group B there are a lot of teams that can surprise SK.

2010-02-02 00:40

KAMAN FNATIC!

2010-02-02 00:41

wow Group A is much harder than Group B!!! wanna see /A/ and fnatic in the final :]

2010-02-02 00:42

would really like to see coL doing some damage!

2010-02-02 00:42

fnatic, mousesports mTw Evil Geniuses SK Gaming Meet Your Makers compLexity can be win

2010-02-02 00:58

3 replies

coL,u might be kidding,those mix would not be able to pass group stage ;)

2010-02-02 01:57

1 reply

how? fnatic was the one of the great teams of 2009 and has so many chances! mousesports is also a good campaign and won the fnatic few days ago, the rest is not going over well are great teams

2010-02-02 18:45

loser...

2010-02-02 02:06

A: mouz , fnatic , mTw B: /A/ , SK , Ravens PS. Think asian teams won`t stand a chance as Tyloo is not here . WMF may suprise though.

2010-02-02 01:20

wow, could group A be stacked anymore? jeez... probably the most imbalanced groups ive seen in a while lol.

2010-02-02 01:25

ALSO-- WMF has proven time and again in matches vs. both Tyloo and former wNv (Tyloo.raw) that they are the asian champions. because of one bad tournament they all the sudden aren't good? In 2009, they thoroughly overcame wNv and Tyloo throughout the year, except for an early slip up in EM Asian finals.

2010-02-02 01:28

1 reply

One bad tournament? WMF sucked at Arbalet Asia, WEM, Global Challlenge Dubai and failed to qualify for WCG. I can't remember the last time they did something noteworthy.

2010-02-02 12:16

groupe A : 1. fnatic 2. mouz 3. oxmoze groupe B : 1. SK 2. /A/ 3. MYM

2010-02-02 01:33

Go mTw! Its gonna be good to see Sunde back in action.

2010-02-02 01:39

1 reply

been waiting that too :)

2010-02-04 17:25

may i ask sunde's blog address ? :>>

2010-02-02 02:07

No Brazilians, No Fun =/ Go SK!

2010-02-02 02:07

GroupA: fnatic mouz mtw GroupB: Sk Gaming /A/ Ravens

2010-02-02 02:20

gl to EG and coL, please do some damage

2010-02-02 02:38

group A: mouz, fnatic, EG group B: SK, MYM, coL :))

2010-02-02 03:19

1 reply

Arbalet.ua > coL and mYm by far...

2010-02-02 04:51

Group A is Tough Go SK

2010-02-02 03:53

god damn thats one competitive competition would be funny if wmf came second at the asia qualifier and ended up in group A. It's pretty bloody stacked atm anyway

2010-02-02 03:56

CMON OXMO!1! terry tibbs supports yall

2010-02-02 04:01

sunde+trace=ownage! go go mTw.wmf spot 1 em asia and go group b !! :D

2010-02-02 04:04

Go Fnatic & EG...

2010-02-02 04:42

when it`s gone start?

2010-02-02 05:49

AGAiN? :-(

2010-02-02 05:55

groupe A : 1. fnatic 2. mouz 3. mTw groupe B : 1. SK 2. Arbalet UA 3. MYM/Ravens

2010-02-02 06:10

2 replies

I have the same opinion :)

2010-02-02 10:06

groupe A : 1. fnatic 2. mouz 3. eg groupe B : 1. SK 2. Arbalet UA 3. MYM

2010-02-02 11:12

holy crap, these are the hardest groups i've ever seen. GL to coL & EG, I hope you both make it out of group play.

2010-02-02 06:11

SK :)

2010-02-02 06:14

AGAiN!!!! GAD!!!

2010-02-02 06:21

where is again?

2010-02-02 06:42

1 reply

they didn't qualify, but they are the first team to fullfill a gap if one of these teams is not able to attend the tournament

2010-02-02 10:32

so many insane teams on the international scene..! can't place money on anyone :) I am guessing one among Arbalet, fnatic, mtw or mouz would win this...

2010-02-02 06:45

Group a mouze

2010-02-02 06:58

fnatic or mouz vs SK or ravens:))

2010-02-02 07:09

both groups are nasty :D Group A winner will be Mousesports and B:s SK

2010-02-02 07:22

I wish that Asian team or SK wins this tournament :D

2010-02-02 07:41

Go Go SK!

2010-02-02 07:42

Na Vi go go go!))) want to see match of /A/ against coL :)

2010-02-02 07:58

Will sunde play in mTw this tournament? Cus I'm out of information.

2010-02-02 08:01

2 replies

Yes he will.

2010-02-02 15:22

1 reply

Great, thanks.

2010-02-02 16:12

nice

2010-02-02 08:23

Arbalet ua Go Go Go !

2010-02-02 08:27

/A/ go go! For Mother Okraina! :D

2010-02-02 08:40

2 replies

i hate moskali

2010-02-02 09:44

ah ti j eblan

2010-02-02 17:00

GL SK-Gaming

2010-02-02 08:47

/A/ c'mon for the 1st spot

2010-02-02 08:48

in my opinion eg will make a good tour

2010-02-02 09:26

gogogo /A/

2010-02-02 09:28

Mousesports or Fnatic will win this i think! ;D

2010-02-02 09:32

go /A/ gl =)

2010-02-02 09:40

omg it's gonna be realy nice !! GL EG & mouz

2010-02-02 09:47

@ miraa is it kerchNET or arbalet UA in group B ?

2010-02-02 09:55

1 reply

Na`Vi (Arbalet UA)

2010-02-02 10:43

both groups are really hard, Arbalet UA in group B :)

2010-02-02 10:02

AGAIN ?

2010-02-02 10:17

without AGAiN , sad :((

2010-02-02 10:24

Group A- too easy for SK... Group B- fnatic GL Sweden:P

2010-02-02 10:24

1 reply

lol sk in griup B and fnatic on A, and at this tournament all matches will be hard ps mym haven't 5th player yet?

2010-02-02 10:39

Groub B will be the toughest one i think:D SK does not shine anymore.

2010-02-02 10:34

h2k need!

2010-02-02 10:43

Go Ravens...... 2º Place in group at least. Fnatic FTW

2010-02-02 10:44

hope fnatic vs /A/ final or EG vs /A/ go n0thing !

2010-02-02 10:49

where's cugo ahah

2010-02-02 10:49

Gux will go home after his last seasons h2k goggogo

2010-02-02 10:50

Ravens strong... MYM\SK o_O Na'Vi Must win :D

2010-02-02 10:52

Go mousesports !

2010-02-02 10:56

mouz,mTw and Arbalet ^_^

2010-02-02 10:58

MYM for victory :)

2010-02-02 11:28

where is tyloo?

2010-02-02 11:33

ROMAN!!!

2010-02-02 11:44

1 reply

he looks very relax during playing )

2010-02-02 13:57

Group A fnatic mtw mousesports Group A SK /A/ Ravens. Where is polish team?

2010-02-02 11:54

1 reply

They didn't qualify :D:D Cha'Ching!

2010-02-02 15:58

gl col

2010-02-02 12:00

If immunity come first at the asian qualifiers they will come top 3 in group B 100%

2010-02-02 12:07

2 replies

probability of that is very low

2010-02-02 13:57

NAT

2010-02-02 15:58

fnatic and Sk:)

2010-02-02 12:11

groupe A : 1. fnatic 2. mouz 3. mTw groupe B : 1. SK 2. MYM 3. ARBALET UA

2010-02-02 12:11

Group#1 1.fnatic 2.mouz 3.EG Group#2 1.ravens 2.sk 3.mym

2010-02-02 13:39

Again??

2010-02-02 13:54

1 reply

what did you mean?

2010-02-02 13:57

Fnatic will take this one :)

2010-02-02 14:06

what's up with H2k?

2010-02-02 14:20

2 replies

They couldn't participate at IEM, so obviously they didn't have the opportunity to qualify for global finals.

2010-02-02 14:38

1 reply

2010-02-02 16:05

and mouz tops group A :P

2010-02-02 14:21

if somebody knew pls reply mi line up of compLexity

2010-02-02 14:22

3 replies

Impulsive, NineSpot, Irukandji, dboorN, thoMz

2010-02-02 14:37

2 replies

ty again :)

2010-02-02 16:06

1 reply

np :)

2010-02-02 16:52

fnatic will pwn mouz this time :>

2010-02-02 14:24

My previsions : Group A fnatic mTw mousesports oXmoze Evil Geniuses Asia #2 Group B SK Gaming /A/ compLexity Meet Your Makers Roskilde Ravens Asia #1 then : Mousesports > /A/ mTw > compLexity Fnatic > Mousesports mTw > SK gaming Fnatic > mTw 1st Fnatic 2nd mTw 3rd mousesports 4th Sk gaming

2010-02-02 14:44

8 replies

/A/ > SK atm imho. :]

2010-02-02 15:44

5 replies

i lol'd

2010-02-03 14:07

4 replies

Did u see their performance at IOL?

2010-02-03 15:38

3 replies

yeah, and who won?

2010-02-03 15:44

2 replies

SK won but sucking alot.

2010-02-03 16:00

1 reply

so the winners are worse than the losers? SK won by being bad, now that's logic.

2010-02-03 16:38

2010-02-02 15:59

my imo is that mousesports won the /A/ at EU finals is just luck, so i think /A/ > mouz

2010-02-02 22:10

they should give asia#2 spot to best chinese team because it's quite unfair with all these visa problems...actually tyllo.gm is #1 in asia right now ps this is so coool that everyone puts /A/ on the top of group B

2010-02-02 14:48

complexity is going to do horrible they lost there best player that, practically carried them

2010-02-02 14:56

SK mTw Mouz fnatic

2010-02-02 14:59

Arbalet 1st :]

2010-02-02 15:15

A : mouz, mTw, fnatic B : Arbalet, SK, RR

2010-02-02 15:48

Na`Vi DA`VI!!!

2010-02-02 15:49

groupe A : 1. fnatic 2. mouz 3. mTw groupe B : 1. SK 2. Arbalet UA 3. MYM I hope MYM get their 5th player and get to practise alot before :-).

2010-02-02 16:00

go MOUZ !!

2010-02-02 16:20

1.mTw 2.fnatic 3./A/ 4.SK 5.Mouz

2010-02-02 16:22

1 reply

mTw first? fail..

2010-02-02 22:04

MOUZ AND /A/ !!! GL !

2010-02-02 16:23

+ AGAiN and we have a tournament

2010-02-02 16:46

3 replies

They failed to qualify, so i don't see how they deserve to be there :)

2010-02-02 16:53

I think they should not be favourised, but a mini tournament for lets say additional 2 slots - Again, TyLoos, H2k - that makes sense :D

2010-02-03 22:24

1 reply

No. It doesn't make sense. H2k didn't participate at IEM and AGAIN sucked too much to qualify, so they should not be in the tournament. A chinese qualifier would be nice though, since it's not their fault they can't qualify.

2010-02-06 15:44

so when its gone start?someone please write,thx u

2010-02-02 16:49

1 reply

cannot read? "March 2-6"

2010-02-02 22:03

fnatic & mTw

2010-02-02 16:50

Na`Vi bez voprosov

2010-02-02 17:04

Go mouz go cyx !

2010-02-02 17:13

IMHO /A/ will won this turnament.

2010-02-02 17:24

1 reply

Would be cool. But fnatic and mouz are same level. It will be such a tough fight :]

2010-02-03 22:26

wana see fnatic vs mtw :D

2010-02-02 17:27

Omg. Nice Group A fnatic mousesports mTw oXmoze EG - all can take top3 in group Best of luck EG, SK :)

2010-02-02 17:52

GL SK :)

2010-02-02 18:36

group A is sooo hardcore compared to group B :O

2010-02-02 19:13

2010-02-02 19:15

Wow Great job on the groups there! They are so even... Group A is comparable to placing Brazil, France, Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal in the same group in soccer world cup. If the rest of oX steps up like mSx, they will so win. Rooting 4 the underdogs to prevail!

2010-02-02 19:50

STREAM ! pleasee (;

2010-02-02 19:54

/A/ GO GO! ZA-SA-JU!!

2010-02-02 20:28

i want to see how /A/ does :D

2010-02-02 21:43

Gogo Complexity!

2010-02-02 22:48

why not h2k ? btw: coL Irukandji is a fuckin madfragger-_-

2010-02-02 23:21

Na`Vi gogogog gl

2010-02-02 23:20

2010-02-02 23:23

A mouz fnatic mTw B SK /A/ Ravens fnatic always likes to mess around in group play wouldnt even be surprised if they got 3rd in groups, then go on to win the event

2010-02-03 04:37

1 reply

You are right, they always balance between going out of the group and going home xD But somehow they manage to go into playoffs everytime. I wonder about SK also, they didn't play great recently. Will they prepare and perform well ?

2010-02-03 22:29