BIG to field S3NSEY at IEM Cologne

11-7-2023 19:27

The German organization won't be able to use Mateusz "⁠mantuu⁠" Wilczewski at their home event.

S3NSEY will play for BIG at IEM Cologne

BIG will attend the IEM Cologne Play-in with a modified roster, utilizing 20-year-old Austrian Efekan "⁠S3NSEY⁠" Topaloglu from their academy lineup in place of mantuu.

The German organization didn't have enough ranking points to qualify for their home event with their primary roster, whereas their academy lineup earned a spot through ESL Meisterschaft Spring Finals. Two of the academy members, Elias "⁠s1n⁠" Stein and David "⁠prosus⁠" Hesse, were later promoted to the main team during the off-season, and mantuu was signed to complete the lineup.

BIG sign mantuu; promote s1n, prosus in major roster overhaul

However, BIG won't be able to field their complete new lineup at the event if they want to take their academy team's place. A provision in the rules states that they must use a three-man core from the lineup that played most of the games in the Meisterschaft National Championship, requiring one more player from the academy team to step in.

As a result, BIG will field BIG Academy member S3NSEY in mantuu's stead, and academy coach Tugay "⁠TuGuX⁠" Keskin will also stand behind the players in place of Fatih "⁠gob b⁠" Dayik. HLTV understands that the team will still be allowed to play in the event as BIG.

The event will be a trial by fire for the Austrian AWPer, who has averaged a 1.01 rating over 111 maps while playing for BIG Academy. His last LAN appearance dates back to the PGL Major Antwerp Europe RMR with Sangal, where he averaged a 0.68 rating over four maps before the team was eliminated with an 0-3 record.

BIG's roster for IEM Cologne 2023 is as follows:

Johannes "⁠tabseN⁠" Wodarz
Karim "⁠Krimbo⁠" Moussa
Elias "⁠s1n⁠" Stein
David "⁠prosus⁠" Hesse
Efekan "⁠S3NSEY⁠" Topaloglu

Tugay "⁠TuGuX⁠" Keskin (coach)

wow

2023-07-11 19:27

11 replies

BIG field actual roster challenge: impossible

2023-07-11 20:58

10 replies

XDDDDD

2023-07-11 21:03

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BIG Academy robbed

2023-07-12 03:52

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this will be so easy for GOD S3NSEY

2023-07-13 15:01

lol

2023-07-12 00:28

This

2023-07-12 01:25

2023-07-12 06:11

+1 how can a team be so unlucky

2023-07-12 07:37

lmao +1

2023-07-12 10:02

+1 :/

2023-07-12 11:59

2023-07-12 12:02

nice!

2023-07-11 19:28

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I wonder if that Austrian guy is igling/leading Germans And what makes it better is that you an Italian cheering for them

2023-07-12 01:58

your comment is very sus

2023-07-12 06:58

How so? Very normal comment

2023-07-14 02:38

LUL

rip

cool, is this the same guy from sangal?

2023-07-11 19:29

Yes

2023-07-11 19:31

Bıg academy*

GL yavru kurt

kürt*

2023-07-11 19:32

2023-07-11 20:07

immigrating=being dog

2023-07-11 20:39

Nice debut

There is Blast groups before Cologne so that's the real deubt. And mantuu plays there

2023-07-11 21:14

The title is wrong. It should be "BIG ACADEMY to field TabseN, Krimbo, sin and Prosus". BIG didn't qualify, BIG Academy did. Scummy way of getting in.

2023-07-11 19:30

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Kinda true

2023-07-11 19:34

I would love to see if you would say the same thing if it was furia academy or sth qualifying for rio and they switch some players with the main team. Btw if you havent noticed BIG even signed 2 of the academy players

2023-07-11 19:41

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he doesnt realize BIG owns their own academy Team haha

2023-07-11 19:45

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jup

So if I sign 10 teams I can qualify everywhere and switch players nice logic

2023-07-11 19:49

yes thats exactly what i said lmao

2023-07-11 19:51

the core (3 players) qualified nice logic

2023-07-11 19:57

Conflict of interest, you can only field one team for the event

2023-07-12 19:44

Yeah, it would be different. The thing is, most people are used to this type of shenanigans coming from Bug Clan, this is nothing new coming from you guys.

2023-07-11 20:30

lmfao

average br0nzil L, go to the library you call Rio

2023-07-11 21:34

Yes, I would. The fact that you bring up nationality in this makes it clear that you don't think they are in the right, you just wanna see BIG in EPL. No problem with that; but I would expect better from TOs, because this type of stuff - even allowing them to use the name of their team that DID NOT qualify - seems like it could be abused in the relation between academy/main roster in order to circumvent actual qualifiers, as just happened here.

2023-07-11 22:36

If you say that you could also say navi technically didnt qualify cuz they changed 3 players. Not the same core not the same roster. + The whole point of the ESL Meisterschaft slot is to have the "strongest" german team. Its just that BIG didnt want to play ESL Meisterschaft. +BIG is playing with the core of the academy prosus, s1n ,s3nsey

2023-07-11 22:41

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If they didn't want to play, too bad, they didn't manage to qualify. Also, ESL Ranking - which was the criteria according to which NaVi qualified - does account for roster changes, because a part of the points are tied to the players, not orgs themselves. So your argument is a bad comparison. I don't care if BIG academy play with s1n, Prosus, s3nsey, Krimbo and TabseN; it's ugly, but every team can change rosters. But I think it's really scummy that they can use that roster and say it's BIG playing, because it's not. It's BIG Academy.

2023-07-11 22:46

So in what world is it fair that teams what for the ESL Ranking deadline for invitations to come so they can pick up their invite slot and just do the roster changes right after cuz they know they would loose too much points if they did it after the deadline. Wouldnt that be an abuse of the system aswell? I admit i get your points tho.

2023-07-11 22:48

As far as I know, there is a roster lock once you confirm the invitation, so you can't just change rosters like that (at least not the core, idk how it works in detail). But anyway, glad we could understand each other. I don't blame you BIG fans, I blame ESL tbh.

2023-07-11 23:45

+1 This was probably one of the nicest and calmest discussions i ever had on this site haha.

2023-07-11 23:50

🤓 akshually

2023-07-11 19:48

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2023-07-11 21:23

I think BIG would've qualified if they didn't bring those academy players into the main team in the first place. Their ESL rating tanked because they switched out 3/5 players. And the core of the academy team that qualified is playing now, so what's the problem?

2023-07-12 15:13

Scummy? They are just developing their academy players so they can bring them to the main team

2023-07-12 20:04

same with mouz, basically mouz nxt now xD

2023-07-22 10:42

1.01 rating AWPer in Academy leagues, they should have kept mantuu and switch out krimbo instead to have any chance at all.

Krimbo is their fragger,so it would suck aswell

2023-07-11 19:50

Krimbo is so good but i have to agree. S3SENY seems terrible sadly.

2023-07-11 19:56

krimbo is an actual beast tho

2023-07-12 09:48

I hope the same thing doesn't happen to mantuu as it did when degster had to stand in for him for a tournament and then just got permanently replaced lol

Dont Think that will happen LMAO looking at his stats

BIG to field M1D at IEM Cologne !!!

2023-07-11 19:33

how is it not possible to field the now BIG lineup here? big acd literally played the finals with prosus s1n and krimbo

the final doesnt count, most matches in the league do. so they have to have sensey, prosus and s1n.

2023-07-11 19:53

reasonable. unlucky nobody told big's management

The current BIG line up only has two Academy players who played most of the games in the ESL Meisterschaft. Krimbo only played in the finals.

Big didnt make it to Cologne. Big Academy is playing there

no syrson?

2023-07-11 19:35

idiot team taking up academy team’s spot but can’t win shit lol

Don’t worry, they won’t qualify. 100% sure

2023-07-11 20:17

lmao

10 won rounds max incoming!

2023-07-11 19:38

lmao tf

2023-07-11 19:39

How can you perform with this chaos. Hope they do, but mens, what stress.

2023-07-11 19:40

There should be a rule preventing you from attending if you have less than 3 players from the lineup that qualified. There's literally a different team playing

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There literally is and the article mentions it?

2023-07-11 19:46

+11111

2023-07-11 19:47

Lineup that qualified: s1n prosus krimbo hyped skyye Lineup that is playing: s1n prosus krimbo sensey tabseN +s3nsey played the rest of the season for academy btw what is the problem ?

there is a rule? and there are 3 players from the qualifying lineup??? (krimbo, s1n, prosus)????? read and think???????

Its S3nsey, s1n, prosus.. + krimbo, tabsen "A provision in the rules states that they must use a three-man core from the lineup that PLAYED MOST of the games in the Meisterschaft National Championship, requiring one more player from the academy team to step in." Krimbo was only playing at the finals. Thats why they need to bring s3nsey in!

2023-07-11 19:54

Fucking read the article LMAO.

2023-07-12 08:18

0.68 god

austria has finally arrived on tier 1

no it hasnt

2023-07-11 19:58

Can’t find, sorry. BIG is placed where right now?

If by Austria you mean turkey, sure

2023-07-11 21:31

They just screwed the whole Academy Roster over a slot they deem „mainteam worthy“ - this should not be allowed by the ESL imo. Let the guys play their biggest achievement and let the main team take the L.

I agree with you

+1 this is very stupid.

2023-07-12 08:19

+111111111111

2023-07-12 12:01

Why would an org field B team in one of the most important events in the year? They aren't stupid

2023-07-12 19:49

BIG play with a complete roster challenge (impossible)

2023-07-11 19:52

oh god hes gonna shit the bed

Lol mantuu finally finds a team to instantly be benched for the first tournament

2023-07-11 20:00

they are going to play the blast groups with their normal lineup though

2023-07-11 20:04

2023-07-11 20:01

This team is doomed to never play with their fixed roster lmao

2023-07-11 20:03

bot

2023-07-11 20:06

Sick leave on the first day of job kkkkkkk

STRANGE dont see any joke about he doesnt speak Jerman he's Austrian :D

2023-07-11 20:13

smh my head

2023-07-11 20:20

Idk why people are so mad.. BIG main team would have won ESL Meisterschaft easily as they have done every single time they attended… they just pulled out so their academy team can play as high as possible and develop better and now they could even get another advantage out of it besides developing their young talents… and also every player played in the academy team besides tabsen its not like they put only players in who havent done anything for the academy team

2023-07-11 20:21

That is so unfair for the rest of the academy guys, no?

2023-07-11 20:26

Beast

2023-07-11 20:28

kekw

2023-07-11 20:33

austria back

2023-07-11 20:35

Big trying to play an event with full roster: Impossible

2023-07-11 20:36

BIG play two consecutive tournaments with the same roster challenge (impossible)

2023-07-11 20:47

Wow that is like the worst stand in I’ve ever seen. And I’ve seen zonic stand in for astralis

2023-07-11 21:11

Sad for the academy players. Lost respect for BIG

hope the team is still called BIG academy at the play-in

2023-07-11 21:16

whats going on with this team

2023-07-11 21:19

Jonathan E is a nice guy

2023-07-11 21:25

Hmm, interesting

2023-07-11 21:43

cmon big, just 1 event with your full stregnht :p

2023-07-11 21:46

BIG and incomplete roster? Finally something new

2023-07-11 21:47

somehow, this team keeps getting worse

2023-07-11 22:08

More teams should create academy teams. It apparently gives you 2 chances to qualify for events.

2023-07-11 22:09

Are you stupid? Only reason why BIG academy qualified is because main team didn't play in Meisterschaft

2023-07-12 19:54

3 clown orgs of modern era: EG, OG and BiG

2023-07-11 22:19

Big monthly roster change

Thought this would happen when BIG academy qualified lol

2023-07-11 22:56

Everyone scared because they know BIG will be Top1 soon, classic.

2023-07-11 23:11

they are big academy and they field tabsen instead of Panix or smth

2023-07-11 23:23

that was fast.. lmao

2023-07-11 23:29

stanyway will not reach playoffs

2023-07-11 23:36

not the cheater from AKUMA!!!!!!

2023-07-12 00:16

Most fair qualifying criteria

2023-07-12 00:32

meme org

2023-07-12 00:37

zzzzzzzzzzz

2023-07-12 01:04

I feel bad for skyye and hyped, their own org screwed them over.

2023-07-12 01:17

Its kinda embarrassing that youre main team wasnt able to qualify, so you had to use a majority of your academy team. Like this shouldn't be allowed to happen.

2023-07-12 01:23

Why? If this wasn't allowed BIG would just use main roster for Meisterschaft and qualify that way.

2023-07-12 19:59

it's big academy, not big. nt bro

2023-07-12 01:28

Its kinda sad that even with a new roster BIG is still playing with a stand-in. I feel like they've been playing with stand-ins, rotating guys in and out of the roster for a year now.

2023-07-12 02:56

EFE for the win! <3

2023-07-12 07:08

Is this a joke? Let ac team play

2023-07-12 07:49

Interesting

2023-07-12 08:16

he will straight up strudel in his pants when he plays infront of thousands of people

2023-07-12 09:03

The Academy Team deserved it, and they took it from them Just wow

2023-07-12 09:06

speedrun out of group stage lul

2023-07-12 09:05

Taking spot from academy team LMAO such losers

2023-07-12 12:34

Remember dukiiii? this is him now, feel old yet?

2023-07-12 14:34

TF sensei in poster

2023-07-12 17:41

the vast majority of the matches from big academy were played by s1n,prosus, s3nsey, skyye and arrow.. The last two being screwed over for main roster ego trip... lost all my respect for tabsen

2023-07-14 21:30

dude if I was Skyye or Arrow I would do my fucking best to get 16-0 in every fucking match from now on I won't even be surprised if BIG puts their academy team on hold, play Cologne, and then send prosus and s1n back to the academy team giving the excuse that "they did not met our expectations" or some shit like that

2023-07-15 13:08