Superteams collide as Cloud9 take on Vitality

A newly-constructed juggernaut does battle with a finely-honed machine: which will triumph?

IEM Cologne will bear witness to a clash between two superteams in the quarter-final. One in the midst of writing their legacy, the other hoping to begin their own in Germany.

Vitality’s grand plan to combine arguably the best player in the world with proven multi-time Major-winners took some time to bear fruit, but a few adjustments down the line and they are now well on track.

Cloud9 were the dominant force in the online era, but have not been able to recapture that form since LAN returned. After plenty of patience they finally bit the bullet and built a superteam by bringing on proven Major-winners Denis "⁠electroNic⁠" Sharipov and Ilya "⁠Perfecto⁠" Zalutskiy from what was historically the premier Russian-speaking squad.

Coming into the marquee event in Cologne, both squads entered with a vast amount of expectation upon their shoulders. Vitality came into this season off the back of two big tournament wins, one of them the biggest of all: the final CS:GO Major, BLAST.tv Paris. Yes, they made a change in the off-season by bringing in Shahar "⁠flameZ⁠" Shushan for Peter "⁠dupreeh⁠" Rasmussen, but their form at the BLAST Fall Groups suggests that they did not need much time to embed their new man.

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Cloud9 found expectations placed upon them not because of their recent tournament performances, but because of the immense talent of the squad they have assembled. These were tempered somewhat by the initial absence of Sergey "⁠Ax1Le⁠" Rykhtorov, but his return for the playoffs have elevated them once again.

The two superteams are therefore clearly at very different points in their life cycles. Vitality are essentially a finished product, albeit one that just swapped out one of the most experienced players in the game for a hotly-touted youngster. Cloud9, by contrast, have just begun their new journey, and are basically an unknown quantity coming into their playoff run in Germany. As such, although both squads stepped up and made it out of their groups, they did it in different circumstances.

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Vitality absolutely breezed through their first two group stage games to qualify for the arena, whilst Cloud9 had to fight tooth and nail after dropping to the lower bracket at the hands of fnatic. Of course this comes with the caveat that Cloud9 were forced to play with a stand-in through the group stage. Timur "⁠buster⁠" Tulepov stepped in for Ax1Le.

So what can we expect coming into this quarter-final? There is no data on the five-man lineup that Cloud9 will be bringing to bear against Vitality, and we haven’t seen Vitality’s current iteration take to the stage in a high-pressure playoff game.

Well, the first thing to expect is fireworks. Vitality have three players in the top ten highest-rated for the event, whilst Cloud9 only have Dmitry "⁠sh1ro⁠" Sokolov. Abay "⁠HObbit⁠" Khassenov isn’t too far behind, but on paper Cloud9 would have been struggling to match their European opposition for firepower, but that changes completely with Ax1Le returning.

If we take a step back and look at 2023 as a whole, the firepower now matches up nicely: sh1ro (1.26) and Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut’s (1.31) ratings are reasonably close, and even closer are the matchups of Ax1Le (1.17) vs Lotan "⁠Spinx⁠" Giladi (1.18) and HObbit (1.10) vs Emil "⁠Magisk⁠" Reif (1.10). You could argue Cloud9’s firepower maybe stretches a tad deeper, and that Vitality’s is a little stronger across the four that aren’t the in-game leader, but in any case the sheer amount of fragging power on the server promises a matchup filled with headshots and explosive moments.

But is it really fair to expect Cloud9 to match up to Vitality? Surely a squad that only changed one player and just won a Major will comfortably dispatch a team that just underwent a more significant rebuild?

Perhaps that is not the case. electroNic opined in an interview with HLTV that facing Vitality with flameZ on the roster rather than dupreeh was an easier prospect. "He's not as experienced as dupreeh, it's a bit tough for them to make the same things that they did with dupreeh." Some of the highlight-reel plays flameZ has racked up since joining Vitality would suggest otherwise, but maybe Cloud9 have spotted a chink in Vitality's armour that they can exploit.

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The weight of expectation is also important to consider. Vitality have proven their pedigree under pressure in recent history, both at IEM Rio and the BLAST Paris Major, and have an immense amount of experience amongst their number. Cloud9's previous iteration could confess to a tendency to collapse in the biggest moments on stage.

Now, however, Vitality are without a five-time Major winner in the form of dupreeh, and Cloud9 have added the cool heads of Perfecto and electroNic. Where previously Vitality would have had a gargantuan advantage in terms of experience, now the waters are not so clear; flameZ has precious little match time on Big Event stages, and no experience at all as the favourite, or at least as part of an elite team. He may have played well for his new team thus far, but there is no guarantee that will be the case right from the off in high-profile playoff matches.

The two obvious counter-points to this are obviously the fact flameZ has plenty of experience around him, and that Cloud9 have a history of struggling in the big moments.

flameZ has already spoken on the former point in reference to Vitality's loss Ninjas in Pyjamas at BLAST Fall Groups: "Everyone was communicating, putting a hand on my shoulder and saying, 'Look, this is how things are, you need to learn from them.'"

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You would also expect Cloud9's latest additions would address the team's prior tendency to falter when faced with the biggest hurdles, but that is not a given. Three of the five-man lineup that often struggled in playoffs are still on the roster, and when the pressure is on, memories of those former failures may end up creeping up on them from the back of their minds.

Cloud9 can surely claim an advantage in the fact there is precious little information out there for Vitality to work with in preparation. Whilst Vitality have also changed a player, it has been a fairly one-for-one swap between dupreeh and flameZ — at least on the attack.

Cloud9 have not only swapped out two players, but also changed their in-game leader, and so a more significant change in approach has occurred. Couple this with the fact the demos that are out there, Cloud9's group stage games, do not feature Ax1Le, and there isn't much to go on.

Vitality are not as clear a favorite as the bookmakers are suggesting, with the odds currently being offered sitting around 1.50 for Vitality and 2.50 for Cloud9. One would have to give them the edge based on the mountain of evidence in recent times that they are one of the best teams in the world, but the nebulous prospect they are facing in Cloud9 certainly levels the playing field.

There is no doubt that this matchup is a titanic clash, one that pits a superteam that has been honed after years of work with a freshly-constructed juggernaut. Vitality have already justified their superteam tag, even if it did take some time, whilst Cloud9 are only just embarking on the quest for greatness. The IEM Cologne trophy would add another chapter to one's legacy, or it would mark the opening pages of the other's. Either way, expect a brawl in their quarter-final bout.

Kazakhstan Timur 'buster' Tulepov
Timur 'buster' Tulepov
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1365
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.62
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
2085
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
Denmark Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1571
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
Russia Sergey 'Ax1Le' Rykhtorov
Sergey 'Ax1Le' Rykhtorov
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1100
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.63
Israel Lotan 'Spinx' Giladi
Lotan 'Spinx' Giladi
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
599
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.64
Kazakhstan Abay 'HObbit' Khassenov
Abay 'HObbit' Khassenov
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1337
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
Russia Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
843
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.60
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
1182
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.61
Israel Shahar 'flameZ' Shushan
Shahar 'flameZ' Shushan
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
568
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.67
Russia Denis 'electroNic' Sharipov
Denis 'electroNic' Sharipov
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1439
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
Russia Dmitry 'sh1ro' Sokolov
Dmitry 'sh1ro' Sokolov
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.23
Maps played:
1038
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.53
#1
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Kazakhstan Ozymandius
Both weak compared to Virtus.plow, Team Spirit, and ENCE.
2023-08-03 22:52
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21 replies
Both trash
2023-08-03 22:52
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1 reply
superteam but cant do shit without proper igl reference: Faze when NiKo igl
2023-08-04 05:05
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#19
Faceit level 8  | 
Portugal 0toxicityDude
WHY would u compare top2 teams with tier 3 such as spirit and virtus plow and ence ????
2023-08-03 23:00
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16 replies
Ence easily top 5
2023-08-03 23:19
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Ence best rn but others are bait
2023-08-03 23:28
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14 replies
virtus pro owned the current top 1 team in the major final tell me another team with that feat :)
2023-08-04 01:25
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9 replies
Evil Geniuses
2023-08-04 03:01
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7 replies
#67
Grim | 
Canada Ermit
This
2023-08-04 03:37
0
in a major final?
2023-08-04 04:32
0
5 replies
What major final bruv? The NIP VP one?
2023-08-04 09:51
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4 replies
bruh stop trolling vp outsiders all the same shit
2023-08-04 13:33
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3 replies
No there's a polish VP there's a Russo-Kazakh VP
2023-08-04 14:28
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2 replies
stop bro
2023-08-04 14:31
0
1 reply
Ok
2023-08-04 15:16
0
One word: fluke
2023-08-04 07:21
0
if ence is best then vp is even better because vp beat ence recently
2023-08-04 05:52
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3 replies
#84
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Finland kuusi5000
You think ence cared during the tournament? They already gad a spot at epl and they just won dallas
2023-08-04 08:34
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2 replies
they can get banned for not trying
2023-08-04 08:38
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1 reply
#87
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Finland kuusi5000
not trying their best is not equal to throwing I mean they obviously played and tried to win but they didn't have any emphasis on winning that because it quite literally is irrelevant. Taking nothing away from vp tho, they still beat them
2023-08-04 09:48
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#21
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Kazakhstan DONK_TOP1
based
2023-08-03 23:01
0
ence omegalul trash
2023-08-04 10:18
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Clash of trash
2023-08-03 22:51
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1 reply
hahahahaha
2023-08-03 22:54
0
real grand final
2023-08-03 22:51
0
2 replies
+1
2023-08-03 22:55
0
#60
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Russia RamilVPol
+1
2023-08-04 02:51
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#5
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Germany SalkinG
Will be a good Match
2023-08-03 22:52
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#6
Faceit level 6  | 
NiKo | 
Canada swagcrazy
4 good players + 1 apex vs 5 good players c9 wins the math works out
2023-08-03 22:52
0
18 replies
Goatpex 2 major sh0ro ax0le b0tbit defecto botronic how many
2023-08-03 22:59
0
11 replies
#20
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Korea aespa
+1
2023-08-03 23:00
0
Nice argument
2023-08-03 23:10
0
#27
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United States Hiro26
2, also
2023-08-03 23:10
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3 replies
#39
magixx | 
Poland _Lx_
3, hobbit 2017, elec & perf 2021
2023-08-03 23:39
0
2 replies
smartest sh0ro fan
2023-08-04 00:17
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#81
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United States Hiro26
right
2023-08-04 07:15
0
Well there is 3 majors between the c9 guys
2023-08-03 23:20
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#37
magixx | 
Poland _Lx_
3
2023-08-03 23:39
0
#43
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Perfecto, Electronic and Hobbit have one each, too.
2023-08-04 00:23
0
2 replies
Magisk has 4, Spinx and ZywOo share 1 major win with magisk, nt
2023-08-04 03:03
0
1 reply
#66
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I never stated otherwise.
2023-08-04 03:35
0
+1
2023-08-03 23:06
0
+1
2023-08-03 23:09
0
count zywoo as 2 players. So they still be 5.5 players vs 5 players
2023-08-03 23:32
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2 replies
In term of size Zywoo is on same level as Perfecto, tho
2023-08-04 03:24
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1 reply
This is outside the game but in the game he is 2 perfectos
2023-08-04 10:04
0
#50
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland KOLO_
zywoo vs nozywoo
2023-08-04 01:09
0
Zywoo will humble C9 as always.
2023-08-03 22:54
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#9
ICY | 
United States EXZACTLY
C9 2-0 I fear. Zywoo exposed tomorrow.
2023-08-03 22:54
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#11
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Sexile coming in hot and fresh to spank the shit out of Frenchies & Danish.
2023-08-03 22:56
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1 reply
#16
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Korea aespa
But not the Israelis? So Spinx and flameZ will come in clutch
2023-08-03 23:00
0
#12
Faceit level 10  | 
ZywOo | 
United States weaboo
Vitality is not super team with bot apex
2023-08-03 22:58
0
1 reply
#17
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Korea aespa
0/8
2023-08-03 23:00
0
#14
Faceit level 10  | 
Israel avivpro13
im hoping for a good game and not a one sided stomp thats all
2023-08-03 22:59
0
Which superteams? Can't be the ones in the title
2023-08-03 22:59
0
2 replies
#18
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Korea aespa
Flag
2023-08-03 23:00
0
1 reply
#23
Faceit level 9  | 
Twistzz | 
Canada PurgeIWNL
wym mens, itb bestest superteam
2023-08-03 23:09
0
great event to start domination with C9 side. electronic will win another major faster than s1mple
2023-08-03 23:10
0
HLTV forums incoming threads - "LOL buster > Ax1Le" "nafany > electronic" "superteam lol"
2023-08-03 23:18
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"A newly-constructed *colossus* does battle with a finely-honed machine: which will triumph?" Please stick to the tradition. Juggernaut is trademarked by Complexity, C9 uses the term "colossus" for its super teams
2023-08-03 23:19
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1 reply
#71
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United States festivve
+1
2023-08-04 04:31
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#32
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Sweden multib
Vitality have good players but only one star. Dno why it's called superteam
2023-08-03 23:20
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2 replies
#75
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France Gabenjaa
spinx and even magisk are star bro tf
2023-08-04 05:14
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1 reply
#97
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Sweden multib
Magisk >>>> sphinx in terms of impact for Vitality
2023-08-04 12:42
0
It's looking really interesting, I just hope Vitality prove to be better and show that C9 are not ready... That lineup is really scary and if they already reach like a final in their first event I'm afraid of what might be happening it the future. Hope Magisk and the rest can do the job, though it'll be close no doubt
2023-08-03 23:25
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c9 just have united with ax1le and they even haven't played any match against someone. So their chance to win is extremely low. idk why people think they can beat vitality right now
2023-08-03 23:35
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3 replies
#38
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Iceland Voidsphere
Vitality is always good for a big stage choke, but still I doubt C9 have a chance here.
2023-08-03 23:39
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2 replies
smth tells me vitality 2nd half will be like faze shit in group stages and insane in playoffs.
2023-08-04 00:34
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#79
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
France DrenZ
On the contrary, Vitality are better on stage...
2023-08-04 06:21
0
C9 so good that their worst player is electronic
2023-08-04 00:00
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#41
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
donk | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo
I hope c9, but I think vita is too strong right now, c9 need time.
2023-08-04 00:02
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C9 don’t have structure rn so idk
2023-08-04 00:36
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#46
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France GoIMP
This game will be a quick 2-0 to Vitality being realistic
2023-08-04 00:36
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3 majors vs 8 majors
2023-08-04 00:48
0
2 replies
#48
ZywOo | 
Denmark Fr0th
thinking it would be 13 instead of 8 if they didn't replace dupreeh is mind-boggling
2023-08-04 00:50
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1 reply
True lol, vitality with dupreeh is probably the team with the most combined majors excluding prime Astralis
2023-08-04 05:30
0
C9 2X0 ez
2023-08-04 01:04
0
#53
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Brazil flytw4tp
im excited for this match
2023-08-04 01:26
0
So many washed players in this matchup. But c9 takes it
2023-08-04 01:32
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C9 is not ready axiles first game after break anything is possible 2.0 or 0.2
2023-08-04 02:37
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C9 sweep 2-0
2023-08-04 02:42
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#64
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Albania EZ4GOAT
clash of trash ence destroys both
2023-08-04 03:12
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#69
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Brazil TypeScript
that's gonna be crazy
2023-08-04 04:05
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apEX weak link gonna cost them their vic
2023-08-04 04:56
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Cloud 9 will win because of Apex lmao
2023-08-04 05:36
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C9 era stars today .
2023-08-04 06:48
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#83
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Russia Thf_hwan
Apex screaming too much and he scares Zywoo. Theyre not gonna win in this situation.
2023-08-04 08:16
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1 reply
#98
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Sweden multib
Zywoo loves apex, it's probably the main reason he is still on the team
2023-08-04 12:43
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superteams, eh
2023-08-04 08:53
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1 reply
C9 on paper is a superteam Vitality 4/5
2023-08-04 10:47
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king_dempz confirmed light mode user
2023-08-04 10:33
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1 reply
: p
2023-08-04 16:30
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#95
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Armenia VirtusNo
no time, i need to see CCT 500 is playing
2023-08-04 11:23
0
We back!!!!!!
2023-08-04 12:25
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gg
2023-08-04 17:28
0
wp
2023-08-05 18:19
0
Clown9 still remains the same
2023-08-08 17:35
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