Valve revises ranking formula, met with further criticism

The ranking which will have a significant impact on January's qualification for the first CS2 Major continues to be to be targeted by criticism.

FURIA stands as the 21st-best team in the Americas, according to Valve

On Wednesday Valve updated its CS:GO regional rankings for the first time since July 27 under a revised formula, which now weighs older matches less than before and considers the proportion of wins that occurred on LAN.

The ranking had been faced with criticism ever since its introduction last December and it has now come under fire again following Wednesday's change. This comes just two weeks after the developers announced their plans to put an end to franchised leagues and the intent for the ranking to be used to hand out invites to all tournaments starting from 2025. It has also been used for invites in qualifiers for the BLAST.tv Paris Major and is expected to again on the road to March's PGL CS2 Major Copenhagen.

With the ranking being largely based on prizemoney earned, it gives teams who compete online for decent sums against local or regional competition an edge over some of those who attend top LAN tournaments instead but haven't found enough success in them recently to reach well-rewarded placings. It also still utilizes results from show matches with prizemoney on the line, a key point of criticism from previous versions.

Due to their poor record dating back to the BLAST.tv Paris Major FURIA sit in 21st place of the Americas ranking behind a plethora of teams who only compete regionally, including their own academy team. Complexity are now placed 15th behind the likes of Wildcard and Forsaken.

Valve's Americas ranking (Click to expand)

In Asia, The MongolZ are currently only the third-best team despite their qualification for the group stage of IEM Cologne and wins over Into the Breach and FURIA, due to their inactivity in other tournaments. Ahead of the Mongolian side sit TRAFFIC Tashkent, an Uzbek squad that has only won three matches in the past three months, two of which came against a local opponent, STORM, whose only matches on record are versus TRAFFIC Tashkent.

The European side, which now more closely matches the HLTV and ESL rankings compared to the other two regions, has seen some significant changes following the conclusion of IEM Cologne, which has most notably caused G2 to jump 15 places to No. 2 and Natus Vincere 20 spots to No. 11 in Valve's ranking.

Danish side Espionage also made one of the biggest leaps, now sitting in 17th place of the European ranking after amassing a 7-1 record in the CCT Central Europe Series 7 and Pinnacle Cup 5 since the July 27th update, in which they were ranked 50th.

The full standings can be found below:

Europe
Americas
Asia

terrible ranking
2023-08-17 23:41
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And people didn't give much of a shit when it was decided that those troll rankings will decide tournament invites
2023-08-17 23:56
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people didnt know
2023-08-18 16:08
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average traffic tashkent hater
2023-08-18 00:05
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#86
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Uzbekistan nasr1dn
+1
2023-08-18 06:48
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#186
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Kazakhstan qw3rtyly
+1
2023-08-20 12:42
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better than it was , with time. at least for europe
2023-08-18 02:44
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Teams who have changed their cores have two or more positions in the rating. For example, there are two Navis, two OGs. I wonder what's the use of this.
2023-08-20 12:40
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better than HLTV lol.
2023-08-18 11:13
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?? So you think that 1WIN, SAW or Espionage are teams better than fnatic, 9ine, Liquid and Furia is worse than their academy? Or Lynx Vision and Traffic Tashkent being 2 best teams in Asia... This ranking is terrible and definitely much worse than hltv one
2023-08-18 11:22
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10 replies
I do
2023-08-18 14:41
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Delusional ofc onliners like 1WIN, Espionage or SAW that lost their epl spot to orks (XD) are much better than teams that regulary attend t1 events like Apeks, 9ine, Liquid or fnatic
2023-08-18 14:46
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Apeks, 9ine, liquid and fnatic may regularly attend t1 events, but they also regularly finish dead last
2023-08-18 14:47
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Yeah but they qualify for those events mostly from open quals in which those 1WIN fail
2023-08-18 14:53
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That's not the case though (apart from maybe 9ine) as they get invited to all those even due to one fluke tournament or partnerships with tournament organizers.
2023-08-18 14:55
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there is no world were 1win is top50
2023-08-18 16:09
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#191
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France sAeR
1st match: > fnatic - Cloud9 9INE - G2 > Apeks - GamerLegion choose ez match
2023-08-22 14:40
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what about nigma galaxy and navi javelins being higher ranked than HAVU, BIG, movistar riders and eyeballers?
2023-08-19 07:29
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seems fine by me considering big has a new core and mr, havu and eyeballers go dead last in every event they play
2023-08-19 14:18
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Duude. We're talking Traffic frickin' Tashkent here. Wake up and smell the roasting beans my lil brah.
2023-08-18 15:58
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+10000000 where navi win 1 tournament and top1 again XD.
2023-08-18 11:56
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M80 top 5 Americas Poggggg
2023-08-17 23:42
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#3
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Poland l1m4k
Lol
2023-08-17 23:42
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cct grinders here we go valve
2023-08-17 23:42
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#5
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Croatia ProudCROAT
lol partner system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
2023-08-17 23:42
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+1
2023-08-17 23:45
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no.
2023-08-17 23:46
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+1
2023-08-18 00:27
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#39
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Hungary colbyak
no
2023-08-18 00:40
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#47
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Russia M0NESH1RO
+1
2023-08-18 00:58
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1 reply
flair doesn't check out
2023-08-18 09:47
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no
2023-08-18 01:22
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no.
2023-08-18 02:44
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Holy no.
2023-08-18 02:48
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+1
2023-08-18 03:20
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#81
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Canada K1nGoldY
+1
2023-08-18 05:28
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#116
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Germany eck0o
+1
2023-08-18 11:09
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No
2023-08-18 13:08
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people saying no are only deluding themselves
2023-08-18 14:53
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Boca Juniors > Furia EZ
2023-08-17 23:43
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lol
2023-08-17 23:44
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1WIN #15 SAW #16 Espionage #17 xdddd
2023-08-17 23:45
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6 replies
#14
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Estonia EquitaS
Team olofmeister > Sprout kkkkk
2023-08-17 23:52
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It's actually close to reality. Each a top 20 team rn
2023-08-18 13:53
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yeah but none of them is better than 9ine or fnatic
2023-08-18 15:22
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ofc, they 9 and fnatic are higher
2023-08-18 15:58
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9ine is #22 and fnatic is #18
2023-08-18 16:05
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1 reply
Clearly wrong. Should be near the 10th position
2023-08-18 16:36
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#11
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Estonia EquitaS
FURIA Academy > FURIA
2023-08-17 23:49
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Prize earnings?
2023-08-17 23:50
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#13
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Poland Julka
This ranking looks funny ngl
2023-08-17 23:50
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#15
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Brazil isbetter
The whole idea is beyond stupid tbh
2023-08-17 23:56
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OG>OG they can only beat themselves
2023-08-18 00:03
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#21
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Estonia EquitaS
Nothing can be worse than OG except OG.
2023-08-18 00:04
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#78
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Oceania xJ7
Really weird that they are ranking previous lineups.
2023-08-18 04:23
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#20
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Germany hltvfinest
NA when they realize none of their teams have won a game in months: :o
2023-08-18 00:04
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Valve should just collaborate with community/HLTV to develop a good ranking system. It may be a stupid idea but at least it would give them some fundamentals to work from.
2023-08-18 00:04
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but the hltv ranking is also shit
2023-08-18 05:02
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but it's much better than whatever valve created
2023-08-18 08:13
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-1
2023-08-19 07:30
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They have their ranking model on github. That's an open invitation to collaborate
2023-08-18 10:45
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Xdd, literally forcing teams to play clown challenger tournaments (cct)
2023-08-18 00:05
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#25
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Poland DAVV3
Team olofmeister KEKW imgur.com/YyFrgDN
2023-08-18 00:06
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43 640 Team olofmeister oskar, olofmeister, shox, juricM, Ksu nice eu ranking
2023-08-18 00:06
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#27
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Poland Astoner55
This ranking is obviously flawed, it really doesn't represent the real level of teams, especially in comparison to each other looking at their results
2023-08-18 00:07
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lmaooooo, how hard is it to develop a formula and TEST it ?
2023-08-18 00:08
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#190
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Russia monkasam
Idk. You try it?
2023-08-21 10:41
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Navi #40 something is wronk here ?
2023-08-18 00:16
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Thats old roster navi, new navi is somewhere top10
2023-08-18 00:40
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1 reply
#125
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Kyrgyzstan roflinka
You forgot to add one more "0"
2023-08-18 12:25
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#30
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Poland ScR1337
joke
2023-08-18 00:23
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with csgo almost end , just put everyone 0 points so that its fair for every each team
2023-08-18 00:24
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#35
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United States PlankCS
Then how do they decide who to invite to the major?
2023-08-18 00:34
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open qualifier exist since mr13 best of 3 is plausible
2023-08-18 00:36
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#60
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Latvia emzijs
mr12*
2023-08-18 01:27
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get rid of invites, evereyone vs everyone on open quals 🥳
2023-08-18 01:16
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#127
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Other KittyVN
that would be sick tbh. Imagine something like Gamers8 as a format but with like 1000 teams and if you lose once you are out :O
2023-08-18 13:03
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yep but bo3 in open quals
2023-08-18 13:42
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#134
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Other KittyVN
of course.
2023-08-18 13:59
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#106
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Saint Vincent and the Grenadines ze)
Major isn't till next year
2023-08-18 09:38
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#32
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Slovakia sniks
Women's teams in top 50 EU is the biggest meme I've seen, they wouldn't even beat a random men's faceit team with 3000 elo average 🤣
2023-08-18 00:26
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#59
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Finland Iate_
2200 elo man team is enought to destroy all woman teams xD
2023-08-18 01:24
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nah g2 oya's actually cracked
2023-08-18 19:50
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hltv so salty that their ranking doesn’t matter anymore
2023-08-18 00:33
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when hltv rankings don't matter anymore it's gonna be a sad day mens
2023-08-18 00:42
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#49
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Argentina cheapdeed
+1 they be mad because the one achievement team who does gargabe the rest of the year is placed at the bottom and not in top 20 like HLTV says
2023-08-18 01:06
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exactly, looking forward to hltv dumb ranking being irrelevant
2023-08-18 09:33
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#183
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United States Phamous3k
It officially is lol.
2023-08-19 19:04
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#110
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Ukraine dench1k
And it's even deeper because it was a system where ranks are kinda explanation why those teams are so good and have invites, but in reality...
2023-08-18 09:58
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Eg higher than most of t1 america teams 🤣
2023-08-18 00:39
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#40
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United States jschleg
looks like these teams need to play more and not hand pick “big lans”
2023-08-18 00:40
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I am sure the team sponsors will he delighted that they do a LAN from home or boot camp with no viewership, instead of a prestige tournament from Cologne / Katowice or Paris...
2023-08-18 07:35
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Guys lets make 2 teams, lets make tournament with fake 10mln€ for first place, swcond place 5mln. Then we fake play, but our prize will count. Then we go to major :D
2023-08-18 00:41
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brainfart be like:
2023-08-18 00:44
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This is objectively funny
2023-08-18 00:45
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#45
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Finland Iate_
ENCE top 1
2023-08-18 00:49
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furia's position should be even lower
2023-08-18 00:49
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if this ranking will be officially released, LAN cs - a most important thing in cs is dead. Instead of going everywhere almost whole year ur playing online and it makes more points than LAN events that obviously is a tiny compared to online events in quantity aspect. GJ Valve, ur following the mistake u made in 2018 lmfao
2023-08-18 01:00
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#83
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Saint Kitts and Nevis EYNLLIB
It has been out nearly a year and has been used for major qualifier invites already. Is lan cs already dead?
2023-08-18 05:53
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lan cs is not dead because of the partner system - guaranteed money means teams still prioritize that over multiple smaller tournaments. take that money away and incentives change a lot, including for organizers. look at how many lan tournaments dota has for tiers 1/2.
2023-08-18 15:13
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#158
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Saint Kitts and Nevis EYNLLIB
I am talking about the valve ranking system. It has been around and implemented already for major invites.
2023-08-18 17:37
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yeah, it made things a bit awkward in RMRs (especially EU) and contributed to seedings being off in the major itself, but since it was restricted to that there was no real harm. things can be much more problematic now that valve wants it to be the main way to hand out invites to CS2 events, though.
2023-08-18 17:57
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#160
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Saint Kitts and Nevis EYNLLIB
I think the way Valve is going about it is smart. Stat with RMRs, give the system time to develop and grow over the course of 2 years before it's fully implemented. I'm optimistic it will grow into something overall good for the scene.
2023-08-18 18:40
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it can't get better in this current form, because it has a bad key component: prize money doesn't really reflect how good a tournament or team is. Winning smaller tournaments isn't always better than losing on a good one. There is time for Valve to change their minds, of course, but it has to be pointed out now. Otherwise we might see something like Furia playing SA tournaments for ranking points instead of trying to handle the better play in Europe - not what you really should want in terms of development.
2023-08-18 20:28
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of course being based on prize money is a good thing money = everything it just needs a little more time to balance out prize pools
2023-08-18 22:29
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unless they have clear guidances for prize money (like say you can't have a random Saudi tournament gifting a million dollars) it will still be a dumb component
2023-08-18 22:54
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if a random saudi guy is willin to spend 1million, he deserves an spot money talks
2023-08-18 23:02
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money talks. it can still say pure rubbish
2023-08-18 23:05
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#50
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Brazil magicsgo
bart4k in two teams lmao
2023-08-18 01:09
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#51
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Europe ehlel
sofunny!
2023-08-18 01:12
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#52
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
Wtf
2023-08-18 01:13
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#53
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Sweden cslipo
Man they have 1.5 years to change it who the fuck cares
2023-08-18 01:16
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+1
2023-08-18 09:34
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ez4ence
2023-08-18 01:17
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH JUST VOLVO THINGS #5 ASTRALIS #6 VP and #12 Spirit #15 1WIN #16 SAW #17 Espionage in front of teams like Fnatic, 9INE, APEKS, BIG, BNE also #43 showmatch troll line up "Team olofmeister" lmao the only ranking I agree with is Navi being #40, feels pretty accurate
2023-08-18 01:26
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i mean tbh since June, BIG only won against Illuminar, Astralis Talent, Young Ninjas, Astralis, OG, Sprout, ALTERNATE aTTaX, B8, Looking4Org and IKLA if Tier 2 teams can barely hit Top 20 by winning against other Tier 2 teams, i dont really think BIG would deserve to be that much higher ngl but yeah this ranking is really bad, The Mongolz being behind a team who have only won 3 matches in the past 3 months in $1k prize pool tournaments is stupid af
2023-08-18 03:24
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if those tier 2 events are that trash, why do they have such high prize money? players who won more money = more succesful end of disscussion it just needs time to balance out prize pools
2023-08-18 22:32
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They are just trolling for impressions.
2023-08-18 01:21
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I don't think this is as horrible as people make it out to be. If this becomes official, top tier teams will be forced to enter a few smaller tournaments which will not only fix the absurdity of the current rankings displayed here, but also push the entire scene to a healthier direction. Internationally competent teams bring viewers to smaller tournament organizers, possibly preventing companies like summit from going under, while simultaneously putting pressure on the current duopoly of ESL and Blast. In addition, bubble teams get valuable experience when pitted against the best teams from their region. However, this change could as well be a disaster if the biggest orgs start flooding smaller tournaments and taking away the little price money available below T1. Definitely not easy to get everything to work out.
2023-08-18 01:41
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We already see the same teams in most tournaments, I don't really see how the big ones can fit any more tourneys into their schedule without overloading the players. And while experience is good, money is better. If you don't have a T2-3 scene in which you can start out making some money because Vitality and Faze have to farm for points, it can get ugly really fast
2023-08-18 04:11
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It's a double edged sword for sure. Impossible to tell how this would turn out without spending hours looking at available tournaments and price pool distribution, so we'll see. I don't see the problem with competing in more tournaments though. It's not like they vacation in-between events. It's just a matter of replacing some scrims with officials.
2023-08-18 12:45
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Not that i am a fan or anything but how is Furia who plays international tournaments year long way down and behind of some teams noone has ever heard of, let a long seen them on international stage and shit , and dont get me started on EU, dk about asian scene but i guess that is pretty much the same bs
2023-08-18 01:42
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simple, they have not earned enough money money = success
2023-08-18 22:35
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#63
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United Kingdom MrVlarien
these rankings are better and more accurate, don't know what you guys are smoking. absolutely blind to actual match results
2023-08-18 01:51
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how in the hell is a team who has only won three matches in the past three months in $1k prize pool tournaments better ranked than The Mongolz?? how is that "better and more accuarate" dawg
2023-08-18 03:14
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#76
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China Jimmyzera
bruh he trolling...
2023-08-18 04:22
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#123
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United Kingdom MrVlarien
I'm not saying it's perfect, but it is better. faze being number 5 hltv doesn't make sense, and heroic still being 1 doesn't either. I personally have my own power ranking based on elo for all teams, and it's closer to what these ranking are then HLTV or ESL or Blast. I just hope betting websites don't start looking at this when making the odds for the matches, as these scuffed ranking we have is how I make EZ money.
2023-08-18 11:49
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that is the problem of 1k prize pool not the team itself more money earned = higher ranked simple
2023-08-18 22:36
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money won from Tournaments (shown in HLTV) since June: #1 - Lynn Vision: $15,422 #2 - TRAFFIC Tashkent: $4,752 #3 - TheMongolz: $10,000 ???
2023-08-19 17:42
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#67
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steel | 
Armenia Imissexoptic
valve please make an arragment with furia vs 9z lets see your 9z takes double digits against furia…my christ how many drinks you drank before making this rankings
2023-08-18 03:08
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#99
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Argentina GonzaPR
Furia is loosing every fcking match I don't know what are u talking about..
2023-08-18 08:44
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#104
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Armenia Imissexoptic
yeah in terms of global matches they do but do you think they would be that bad and ranked 21st in their region specifically?
2023-08-18 09:35
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#139
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Argentina GonzaPR
they didnt show anything better yet...
2023-08-18 14:28
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#71
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Brazil hugoooo
2023 and we see such unbelievable crap... I' out of words
2023-08-18 03:25
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cs will be complete dead with this cs2 garbage, valve is the worst company in the world
2023-08-18 08:42
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#72
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Sweden vik1n
Team olofmeister higher rank than Into The Breach, LMFAO
2023-08-18 03:32
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#75
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Sweden EntonXD
literally everything valve touches gets worse, and it takes years for them to figure out even small things if they even do solve the problem. Csgo is great because of community created stuff, valve didnt even make the game!
2023-08-18 04:13
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#105
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steel | 
Armenia Imissexoptic
woke
2023-08-18 09:36
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+1, Valve didn't know shit about csgo before now they are touching it make it like a mess. I swear people praise this shit ranking don't know how this ranking works lol
2023-08-18 10:26
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Random developer generated this at 4:59 PM before leaving the office.
2023-08-18 04:23
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the EU top 4 are more accurate than the hltv rankings but it just goes down from there
2023-08-18 05:06
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Much better than auto invites and actually encourages and supports smaller orgs who grind their way through B & C tier tournaments…this increases parity and I think is healthier for the community long term.
2023-08-18 05:33
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#84
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Brazil Anarchy_BR
Didnt Valve decided that teams need to play the quals where they live? So I thought FURIA and Liquid would play EU RMRs
2023-08-18 06:20
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me when I make a mickey mouse tournament with a prize money of 1M and suddenly am the best team in americas
2023-08-18 06:20
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#88
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Europe richwilde
Good just end the franchised leagues please
2023-08-18 06:55
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cartoonishly inaccurate rankings aside, the readme on the regional standings github has some pretty glaring grammatical errors for a multi-billion dollar company's public facing document lmao
2023-08-18 07:04
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This is just silly...
2023-08-18 07:21
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if you dont like the way the ranking is calculated just submit a pull request with the changes u want
2023-08-18 07:22
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#93
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United States Xeeh
Furia #21 in americas lol
2023-08-18 07:40
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They should not go with prize money, they should do like the ATP in tennis. Each tournament should give points according to their importance. But if you are like EG and do bad in all big tournaments, you will need to grind small too to qualify for the rmr
2023-08-18 07:43
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that's the most sensible solution - separate tournaments into clear tiers according to some requirements (prize money, number of top teams, etc) and say how many points teams should win off each one
2023-08-18 23:03
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Big teams will have to play those tier 2 / tier 3 tournaments to get more points to qualify. It would bring a lot of competition everywhere and more chances to see our favourite teams play also
2023-08-19 07:27
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are people really missing their favourite teams right now? biggest criticism I see of the partner system is that all the same teams play all the time
2023-08-19 19:30
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#97
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Mongolia TmJay
TRAFFIC Tashkent on top of Asia xdddddd Mongolz, Ex-Rare atom would easily 16-0 these guys. Jokes aside if this ranking actually gets them invite whole system is done for
2023-08-18 08:37
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So this isn't the same as the hltv team ranking, but Valve's regional ranking?
2023-08-18 08:52
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#107
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Netherlands p2dr
54 615 Team Pimp Pimp, NBK-, SPUNJ, t4tty, iM WHAT
2023-08-18 09:38
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hahaha what the hell xD
2023-08-18 21:47
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#108
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Japan cpt_nemo
LEZZGOOO TRAFFIC TASHKENT NEXT MAJOR WINNER
2023-08-18 09:43
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Valve knows smth. Time to open our wallets and farm some betting money, while everyone laughs xD
2023-08-18 14:03
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MA GOD Techno4k plays in two teams at the same time
2023-08-18 10:16
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#113
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Czech Republic knom1s
Team olofmeister in 43rd lmao but yeah teams that are trash and benefited from the partner system will have to start grinding cct and other small tournaments
2023-08-18 10:30
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Great ranking! Furia got work to do!
2023-08-18 10:31
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Furia ranked fairly tbh
2023-08-18 11:29
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#121
F1KU | 
France d0py
ESPIONAGE TOP17 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
2023-08-18 11:41
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Yeah, time to wake up, mate. Espionage is in top 5 of T2+ CS
2023-08-18 13:57
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#137
F1KU | 
France d0py
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY ESPIONAGE T2 CS? I DONT SEE ANY CHANCES OF THEM AGAINST MOUZ, NIP, MONTE OR FNATIC
2023-08-18 14:08
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Nigma Galaxy is ranked higher then 9 Pandas main squad and much higher then EYEBALLERS. I'm curious if it'd stand above or below TRAFFIC TASHKENT in global rankings
2023-08-18 14:00
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who thought that prize money is a good measurement for a competitive ranking???? wtf
2023-08-18 14:26
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#155
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Brazil PhoKiLL
Valve seems to want to destroy with in-person events. Online events have less organization costs, and with that they can pay bigger prizes. This is unfair to in-person events. In-person events should count more towards the ranking when compared to online events, not only because of the cost of organizing the event itself, but also because face-to-face events are much less likely to have cheaters.
2023-08-18 16:29
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#156
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Brazil PhoKiLL
Currently, it is much more worthwhile to participate in several Tier 3 or lower online events than to participate in a Tier S or Major event. This is why we have so many unknown teams in this stupid new ranking. Big teams will start chasing small events to score more. Ending any chance of smaller teams winning anything. Why play for bigger prize pools with little chance of winning against big teams, if you can guarantee medium prize pools against smaller teams? Think, Valve... think...
2023-08-18 16:40
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valve does something ppl complain, valve doesn't do anything ppl complain, cry is free.
2023-08-18 19:07
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#164
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Sweden Vrede
XDDDD
2023-08-18 21:44
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#174
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland SebL
This is way worse than ESL Ranking... they have to make a lot of changes to it because if that's how invites to big tournaments will be given then we will have a shitshow on big events.
2023-08-19 00:22
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#175
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Destroyer | 
Other Marauder_
This is retarded and very much expected coming from valve
2023-08-19 02:36
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they're setting the expectations VERY low so when they fix the system they'll face less criticism i dont see an explanation how they havent fixed this godshit ranking already which has been out for months
2023-08-19 07:34
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all people hating the ranking are sharks haters, fuck them
2023-08-20 12:59
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#188
donk | 
World dsa__
Still better than hltv ranking
2023-08-20 14:23
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#189
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Sweden Jayswe
Valve should just collaborate with community/HLTV to develop a good ranking system. It may be a stupid idea but at least it would give them some fundamentals to work from. Honestly who thought that prize money is a good measurement for a competitive ranking?
2023-08-20 21:17
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#192
Faceit level 10  | 
ner | 
Ukraine smakolyk
How tf prize money can be ranking factor
2023-08-23 05:01
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Top43 - Team olofmeister
2023-08-23 20:48
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