ESIC Commissioner issues lackluster reasoning for radio silence on NA matchfixing scandal

"I don't sit day-to-day with my investigatory workload going 'Oh yeah, perhaps I should revisit this thing that happened two years ago,'" Mr. Smith said during an interview.

Ian Smith, Commissioner of the Esports Integrity Commission (ESIC), was recently interviewed by INSITE to discuss topics ranging from the ongoing investigation into match-fixing in North America to the coach bans handed out by ESIC after the spectator bug was discovered in 2020.

In the interview, Mr. Smith made attempts to justify ESIC's two-year silence on the North American match-fixing investigation they made public in 2020, citing a lack of credible evidence, funding for the investigative body to continuously look into the matter, an inability to make headway with certain betting operators who refused to provide details of betting information, and his own focus moving on to current issues as reasons why no sanctions had been issued. He also stated that the body had at one point found enough evidence to charge "five to six" individuals, but because the players were no longer actively playing the game, they chose not to.

These reasons, while partially explaining the lack of results from the investigation, do little to justify the complete radio silence regarding the issue from the esports watchdog for two years, nor the repeatedly failed promises of updates and investigative releases that supposedly would implicate players involved in the aforementioned match-fixing. Insult to injury is added when Mr. Smith later in the interview brushes off the lack of updates and of further investigation by saying he needs to be reminded and held accountable by third parties to continue looking into the matter, and adds that his focus isn't on what has happened in the past, but rather on the immediate present.

The looming specter of a hammer poised to come down on the heads of up to 34 North American players has haunted the region for over three years now, and it is truly unclear after this interview if Mr. Smith doesn't understand the impact that the prolonged investigation — and almost more importantly, complete radio silence — has had, or if he simply doesn't care.

Numerous organizations have been hesitant to sign players in the sub-top of North America for fear of unknowingly being associated with matchfixers, while some of the alleged matchfixers have moved over to VALORANT and found massive success without any punishment for their actions. The integrity of the lower leagues suffered too, and with almost no information to go off of, fans could only question if the matches they were watching were legitimate or not.

That isn't to disregard the difficulty in making progress in the investigation itself due to some of the reasons talked about by Mr. Smith. However, there is simply no reasonable excuse for the number of times that Mr. Smith or ESIC has stated an update or release is coming in mere days, yet failed to deliver. It's even more disappointing that ESIC neglected to notify the public of the reason for the delay in their investigation for over two years, and on top of that did not provide any comments to journalists despite repeated inquiries as to the status of their investigation.

Broken promises

Four days ago, August 23, marked the two-year anniversary of the last public update issued by ESIC regarding the North American match-fixing investigation. The esports watchdog's investigation into the matter was first revealed in September 2020 following months of rife community speculation regarding players in ESEA MDL (now ESL Challenger) rigging the outcome of matches for profit from betting websites. After nearly six months of silence regarding the investigation, Mr. Smith revealed that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had gotten involved in the matter and that findings from the first subsection of the investigation would be made public in "ten days to two weeks," adding that the commission had "really good corroborating evidence" of wrongdoing and that the players would be banned "for a very, very long time."

"The first part we'll deal with quite quickly, because... we're dealing with idiots, basically," Mr. Smith had said.

Five days later and thanks to a concerted effort from multiple journalists, a transcript of a recording was released to the public, with the original leaked recording already being directly provided to ESIC by the same journalists. The transcript revealed a conversation between Sebastian "⁠retchy⁠" Tropiano, Carson "⁠nosraC⁠" O'Reilly, and Kevin "⁠4pack⁠" Przypasniak in which the then-Rebirth trio discussed plans to fix two ESEA MDL matches. The trio were among five players suspended by ESEA following the publication of the transcript as ESIC looked into the matter.

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Leaked recording exposes match-fixing discussions in ESEA MDL

Ten days came and went. Two weeks came and went. Mr. Smith's promised report never surfaced. Nearly four months later, a response to the release of the transcript finally arrived — notably, not the first subset of findings that Mr. Smith had previously spoken of — wherein the watchdog issued five-year bans to retchy and 4pack, as well as a reduced 111-day ban to nosraC for failing to disclose knowledge of corrupt conduct to ESIC. The other two players mentioned in the recording were not charged.

The watchdog stated at the time that it had dealt with this specific case separately from the rest due to details being made public and referred to this release of bans as an interim update. It stressed that this was not the final outcome of its large-scale inquiry, which included "34 additional and currently still ongoing investigations."

That was on August 23, 2021.

Read more
Former Rebirth duo handed five-year bans by ESIC

Radio silence

It's been all quiet from ESIC since then, both publicly and in requests for comment, regarding the NA match-fixing investigation. It has left the entire scene, and particularly North America, in a lurch. Instead, the only releases we saw from them pertained to the spectator bug and the coaching bans that were subsequently handed out. ESIC showed poor handling of that situation too, given that they crumbled when threatened with litigation by Nicolai "⁠HUNDEN⁠" Petersen and that most of the leg work in the case wasn't even done by them. Rather, it was Michal Slowinski, a tournament admin, and Steve Dudenhoeffer, a software development manager at ESEA, who handled that, but that is a whole separate story in and of itself.

So what did Mr. Smith, after two years of silence, have to say when he finally spoke up about the investigation?

He began by making it clear that the allegations ESIC received absolutely justified an investigation. To begin looking into those allegations, the watchdog needs to work with betting operators to verify that the bets were placed, the value of the bet, who placed them, and from what region.

"We had a lot of betting that indicated the outcome was known before the bet was placed or when the bet was placed, that it had been bought somehow or had been arranged," Mr. Smith explained. "If it's credible, that's what triggers the investigation, then they look at the match action."

He then touched on where this case "fell down," diving into the point when the FBI got involved.

The FBI had their own priorities

"When law enforcement gets involved, and I'd say particularly in the United States and the FBI in this instance, they have a very different priority to ESIC. We are regulating the players, the sport, the participants. What they are primarily interested in is finding out which betting operators were offering markets illegally to United States residents and citizens. What they are interested in is how are these guys placing bets from places where betting is illegal.

"They want to prosecute the betting operators who are operating illegally in the United States. A lot of the to-and-fro between law enforcement and ESIC is much more about the betting operator than about the players because, you'll appreciate that in many cases and being somewhat pejorative about this, the players are nobodies to the police. They're not high-profile people, they're not sexy. Law enforcement only generally worldwide pursue cases where they perceive to be a public interest. They are prohibited by their rules of evidence from providing anything back to us. So whatever they find out they can't tell us, they can't provide that to us until there is a trial, a criminal trial, and the evidence is presented at the trial.

"What happened in a vast majority of the old MDL cases is that the betting operators who were operating illegally in Canada and the United States at the time would not cooperate in the provision of evidence to us. A lot of them were Bitcoin operators with no license at all. Whilst we were able to contact probably four or five of them, none of them were prepared to provide us with the necessary client information for us to link the players to the bet."

Later in the interview, Mr. Smith had some more to add regarding that last point. "We are still hopeful that relationships with these betting operators improve to the point where they feel comfortable giving us the betting evidence we've been asking for for the last two years. The guys who operate in the crypto space, apart from one who we deal with frequently, they have no interest in engaging with us because they jeopardize their illegal position in the United States. Nobody wants the FBI banging on their door, and any indication that they accepted customers and bets from the United States in that period would expose them to criminal prosecution in the United States, end of story."

Inconclusive evidence; inaction from ESIC

Mr. Smith then explains that the match evidence, which they had expert CS:GO analysts go through, was "inconclusive," and that while most of their experts were prepared to say some clips looked dodgy, they weren't able to fully rule out poor play as a whole.

"By the time we felt we had enough potentially on another six players to actually proceed on betting evidence that we had and the match play [gameplay from demos], all of those players were no longer actually active in the scene at all, and the remaining who were active were ones where we simply did not have enough to prosecute the cases, " Mr. Smith continues, revealing that ESIC failed to take action on players who they even determined to clearly be match-fixing. "Those cases remain open, as silly as that sounds."

Mr. Smith explains that he expected betting operators to willingly cooperate and provide information more than they did. "It looked open and shut — and still does, look I still completely believe that these cases were fixed, I'd put my mortgage on the fact that these matches were fixed, but that is a very, very different thing from actually prosecuting and banning players based on my belief as opposed to rock-solid evidence that would stand the scrutiny of external bodies.

"Particularly the point of being in the United States, is the litigious nature of society and the way that the legal system operates, if you get something like this wrong and some guy sues you for loss of earnings over the next god knows how long, loss of reputation, that kind of exposure would bankrupt ESIC in one case, so it's not something that we can do on a whim."

So why the silence?

Mr. Smith is then directly confronted and questioned as to why ESIC hasn't provided a single update on the investigation in the past two years, and why this is the first time we've heard news about it.

"I guess this comes down to me, in a sense, relying on people like you actually asking me this question because being proactive on old investigations when we have got 100s of new ones is a question of resources, time, and focus," Mr. Smith says. "We are a radically under-resourced organization, relative to our workload. So, my focus individually is always on 'what are we doing now,' not on 'what did we do last week, last month, last year,' which is a fault – I’m explaining and excusing.

"That’s not a good thing, but it is one that we are addressing now, in terms of resourcing. We need more people, and we need people who are exactly in the position to identify that we haven’t updated the website, to say 'Hey, I looked at the website and we haven’t done anything on this for 6 months to a year, whatever.' I don’t have that luxury, at a personal level, and neither do the few people who work for us yet. Bluntly, the increase in resourcing, both at a human and money level, is what we need to serve the community in a way that the community deserves. In the meantime, I rely, as the community does, on guys like you asking me the question.

"I’m perfectly prepared to answer the question, but I don’t sit day-to-day with my investigatory workload going; 'Oh yeah, perhaps I should revisit this thing that happened 2 years ago.' I hold up my hands that that is not satisfactory and we're building towards what is satisfactory very rapidly."

Mr. Smith stated toward the end of the interview that changes would soon follow in ESIC, indicating that the structure within the watchdog would be changing in the coming months and that they were addressing their resource issues. He also pointed toward a mass increase in ESIC's caseload from COVID onward and said the sheer number of issues overwhelmed him, with that being one of the reasons they haven't "proactively" communicated with the community. It is, however, hard to place faith in the promise of change in the future after Mr. Smith and ESIC have repeatedly failed to deliver on timelines and promises of change from previous announcements.

After all of this time, for the first words on the situation to arrive through a small podcast interview, and for that news to essentially reveal they have not continued to work on the investigation and need to be reminded to even tell the public about it... it's quite frankly insulting, and overall damning for the few people who remained hopeful that ESIC had been working toward a resolution for the investigation over the past years.

Canada Sebastian 'retchy' Tropiano
Sebastian 'retchy' Tropiano
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
222
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.75
United States Kevin '4pack' Przypasniak
Kevin '4pack' Przypasniak
Age:
22
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
228
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.72
United States Carson 'nosraC' O'Reilly
Carson 'nosraC' O'Reilly
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
757
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.69
What dis
2023-08-27 23:53
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Oooof
2023-08-27 23:53
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milquetoast lookin ahh
2023-08-27 23:54
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ESIC being worthless as usual. All they had to do is announce the obvious ones like Marved, Shanks, and Poised and they wouldn’t be in this predicament right now. Just abolish the ESIC and get actual people willing to get the job done and not these frauds.
2023-08-27 23:56
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Brazil Lok72
+1 esic sucks and cant be recognized as a good team for e-sports integritu
2023-08-28 08:53
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Expected from an org whose Wikipedia article consists of "Criticism" for 50%
2023-08-29 12:11
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lel they don't even care at all
2023-08-27 23:54
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Australia KFCMayn
FUCK IAN SMITH #FREEWOTS
2023-08-27 23:56
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#8
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Belgium w4lt3r
spunj about to go ham on this in the next podcast
2023-08-27 23:56
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#9
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Armenia VirtusNo
Hunden excusionists
2023-08-27 23:56
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#10
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Spain mavericko19
Here we go again 0 days with CS drama
2023-08-27 23:57
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#11
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mazay | 
Japan makermeetsu
Insanely unprofessional comments from Mr. Smith.
2023-08-27 23:57
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1 reply
+1
2023-08-28 08:55
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Sir, a second match fixing scandal has hit NA
2023-08-27 23:58
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Lol
2023-08-28 13:05
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#13
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Cyprus shmoe
SPUNJ: "I say fuckem"
2023-08-27 23:59
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Unfortunately with inaction against the most damaging thing to happen to CS in a long while, what authority does ESIC have now? The evidence was there. As much as I love the professional side of this game, the trust and belief I have has significantly lowered. The only reason the coach bug punishments were handed out was because of outside investigation and Valve having a hand in the situation. While I believe CS can have a bright future, it is going to take a long time to come to fruition. With gambling sites still sponsoring events and teams, legitimisation will be a long time coming.
2023-08-27 23:59
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#23
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United Kingdom kennyvenom
Gambling companies are the only thing carrying pro CS. Before that you got hardware companies offering mouse bungees or keyboards as prizes haha
2023-08-28 00:10
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#29
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f0rest | 
Slovenia escmoody
aye back in the yee oldee days we played for "top of the line" logitech, steelseries and razer tech hahaha
2023-08-28 00:18
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#32
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United Kingdom kennyvenom
Hahah exactly, the few top top teams got flight tickets covered if they were lucky
2023-08-28 00:24
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+1
2023-08-28 00:38
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+1
2023-08-28 01:40
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And that makes it right? Conflicts of interest should have no place in competitive sport.
2023-08-28 01:54
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maybe that's all they deserve if they can't fund their events legitimately
2023-08-28 04:00
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+1000. In Australia we prosecuted the people involved, organised crime and players. America has no excuse, they are 1 country. Europe/CIS gets a free ride because it's a soup of countries and jurisdictions so nobody does shit. The stench of cheating follows many players, knowingly working under a cheating coach. That's why heroic deserve to keep losing, despite never having to pay any price.
2023-08-28 09:25
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It's funny to think that they did those, because Hunden himself told them some people were abusing the bug and he offered to help them how to find it XD
2023-08-28 14:17
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sorry but im not reading allat
2023-08-28 00:04
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tiktok brain got kids thinking a few paragraphs is as long as the bible, didn't your parents teach you to read?
2023-08-28 07:23
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esic lol
2023-08-28 00:05
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United Kingdom Leftie
So Mr. Smith is an unprofessional douchewad apparently. I bet he'll be the first to complain when ESIC gets seen as even more of a joke than any real power.
2023-08-28 00:07
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L
2023-08-28 00:07
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Now look at the Eu MATCHFIXING in CCT please
2023-08-28 00:07
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#20
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Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
TL:DR?
2023-08-28 00:08
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#33
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Just watch the video - it's not that long and it explains the gist of the whole situation.
2023-08-28 00:24
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#41
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jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
+1
2023-08-28 00:35
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-1
2023-08-28 00:41
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#21
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Portugal dracø
wow, it's like they are totally useless :O Who would've guessed after all the shitshow that they delivered..
2023-08-28 00:09
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Clown
2023-08-28 00:09
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#26
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Canada _penguins
Marveds paying esic off
2023-08-28 00:15
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#81
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Australia jd4ddy
Sentinels and envy/optic*, he should of been convicted ages ago. These valorant kids worship him and say he did nothing despite them not knowing what csgo is
2023-08-28 04:27
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#31
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
ESIC are losing the dregs of their already depleted credibility with each passing incident... Definitely don't envy their predicament, that's for sure.
2023-08-28 00:23
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I don't think they are incapable or that their credibility is low, rather impossible to work with low resources they've got. Afaik, there is just a few people powerless to enforce anything.
2023-08-28 12:09
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I get the impression ESIC's foundation was a napkin-drawn, poorly formed manic epiphany of the driving actor (unsure who founded it). They lost significant interest once the papers hit the desk. I'm bipolar, been manic, been depressed; this situation reeks of a grandiose idea and terrible execution - now ESIC's in this useless downward spiral...this transcript reflects that.
2023-08-28 20:00
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#34
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donk | 
United States larrypotato
understandable tbh as always, fuck betting sites
2023-08-28 00:25
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#36
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Estonia m2gs
ESIC is a failed...what do you even call them? A bunch of bookie loving cronies.
2023-08-28 00:28
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#37
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Serbia nnikolaS
smoked them 😭
2023-08-28 00:29
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#38
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steel | 
Armenia Imissexoptic
ITS BEEN YEARS IN BOTH CONTINENTS (eu-na) CONSTANTLY FIXING GAMES BUT THESE GUYS CAN SAY THINGS LIKE “OH WHAT CAN I DO IF THE THIRD PARTIES DONT SHARE NEW INFO WITH ME” HOW ABOUT YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN YOU FUCKING MORON YOU SUPPOSED TO BE THE LAW HAND OF CS
2023-08-28 00:33
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#40
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Armenia Imissexoptic
and fixing boiles down to stream some of the matchfixers allready gone to t1 teams,this is ridicilious in one hand valve banning ibp for a 500$ matchfixing and on the other hand we have atleast 50 pros fixing atleast 3 games a month…
2023-08-28 00:36
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INSITE on top
2023-08-28 00:33
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Pathetic. I'd call for Ian Smith to resign if it weren't for the fact that he does sod all anyway
2023-08-28 00:39
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Great to see Insite getting some attention, absolutely amazing group of people and are putting out some incredible content
2023-08-28 00:40
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#46
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Luxembourg 2000
ESIC take your meds
2023-08-28 00:42
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#47
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United States notawaffle
I'm curious, who gave ESIC such authority to begin with? It definitely doesnt seem valve has any cooperation with them. And the fact that they back off when faced with threats of lawsuits shows that their self-granted power is meaningless
2023-08-28 00:45
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ESIC is the most incompetent "watchdog" I've ever seen, where they ban innocent coaches first without reaching out to them and then make them PAY money to appeal the decision which was wrong in the first place. And then they completely capitulate to the legal pressure from the lawyers of coaches who were obviously cheating. Ian Smith is still giving the same excuses if being too "underfunded" to make any progress in 2 years. Tell ESL and whoever to stop funding this sham org.
2023-08-28 00:53
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2020 hmm xeppa and chaos sound about right. Didn’t half that lineup move to valorant also?
2023-08-28 01:05
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Common ESIC L. Only ever going after the weakest ones, knowing they can't defend themselves
2023-08-28 01:11
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Germany _car
+1 just bully Australian players that have no way tl defend themselves Let's not ban American players because if they sue us and they win we'll actually have to pay
2023-08-28 08:47
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+1
2023-08-28 12:12
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ESIC just disband pls, caught lacking again Free all coaches btw
2023-08-28 01:20
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esic useless
2023-08-28 01:28
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#64
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Netherlands m1croG
ESIC is nothing all players orgs can just say fuck off clowns
2023-08-28 02:25
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ESIC biggest paycheck stealers in the scene
2023-08-28 02:45
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Just reminder for 6 years of existence ESIC banned 0 ZEEEERO players for matchfix in EU, Asia, SA. Yeah, it's hard to prove matchfix, but 0 for years bro....
2023-08-28 02:55
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#67
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donk | 
World HOWMUCHHOWMUCH
TEN SHOCKING REASONS WHY ESIC WON'T KEEP YOU UPDATED Then you actually read the reasons and they aren't shocking at all, this article stinks of clickbait level journalism. If you agree that there needs to be a body in place to monitor player's integrity, then you're going to have to accept that this is it. Because I don't see anyone else stepping up to the plate to handle it or fund it.
2023-08-28 02:56
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We shouldn’t accept the bare minimum, ESIC has done absolutely nothing of worth other than banning coaches (some of them undeservingly) Not leaking names of matchfixers because they changed games is a ridiculous excuse. Both the cs and valorant community deserve to know the shady individuals in the scene And for your last point, there are independent journalists (like R Lewis) or betting sites conduct conclusive investigations themselves
2023-08-28 03:30
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Absolute clownery from ESIC. Not only they provide no results, but they also complain about funding? You already have names of match fixers but you won’t release them because they moved to valorant? This is absolutely ridiculous, as it not only affects the integrity of another esports game, but it doesn’t even prevent these players from returning to csgo/cs2. If you’d bet your mortgage that other players are fixing, why not go the extra mile to prove it? So as soon as the betting sites stop helping, the investigation is over? Ridiculous. ESIC do not deserve the semblance of authority they have
2023-08-28 03:24
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Brazil dio_scuro
eternal clowns.
2023-08-28 03:28
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ESIC needs to be shut down, everyone of these clowns should be fired.
2023-08-28 03:35
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Yeah, the FBI had other priorities, which are investigating Trump lmao
2023-08-28 03:51
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Yeah matchfixers who moved to VAL aren't worth pursuing, it's much better to let them make more money and leave their reputations unscathed. This guy is retarded. Hopefully RL will at least release the names on his own.
2023-08-28 04:02
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+1
2023-08-28 04:12
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#75
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Germany kunar2k
Common ESIC L
2023-08-28 04:08
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who funds the ESIC and how much? Hard to understand the problem without these details, the lack of communication is piss poor though if they actually have full time staff
2023-08-28 04:10
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#82
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Australia jd4ddy
nobody its a self funded project im pretty sure
2023-08-28 04:28
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apparently they have 5 full time employees so they must be getting funds from somewhere
2023-08-28 04:46
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#94
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Australia jd4ddy
either volunteers or being paid by cheaters
2023-08-28 08:19
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I'm just asking about the facts, not HLTV users poorly formed opinions
2023-08-28 08:29
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#106
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Australia jd4ddy
Well them being volunteers facts, during the hunden period they had majority volunteers
2023-08-28 10:53
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#107
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Australia jd4ddy
You can legit google it and it says non for profit organisations
2023-08-28 10:55
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of course it's non profit but you still need funds, they have fulltime salaried employees, being non profit doesn't mean they are all volunteers
2023-08-28 11:03
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the reason I ask where the funds are coming from is because shouldn't they be asking WTF is happening?
2023-08-28 11:06
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Majority of funding coming from Tournament Operators that become partners with ESIC and pay them a fee. Not to mention conferences and talks about ESIC and esports integrity… all talk little action
2023-08-28 11:43
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so basically ESIC is funded by the kingdom of saudi arabia, fantastic
2023-08-28 11:49
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pretty much
2023-08-28 13:58
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carson getting permabanned would be a massive W tbh
2023-08-28 04:13
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#80
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United States Gonginator
ESIC was useless and a joke to begin with. Anyone who expected them to accomplish anything was greatly misled.
2023-08-28 04:18
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#85
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Brazil Anarchy_BR
Wait is gambling really banned in the USA, the land of freedom? Lol how Vegas exists then?
2023-08-28 04:51
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Gambling isn’t banned in the USA, I think it varies on the state you’re in, and also there’s a difference between casinos and online gambling. I think casino-gambling is only allowed in Nevada though, and I’m also pretty sure you need a license if you wanna be a serious online gambling platform which many fail to Provide (there’s countless loopholes to get out of there)
2023-08-28 05:12
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#126
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Romania TRS1906
Atlantic City
2023-08-28 13:38
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#136
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United States MrNorwood
Casino gambling is legal in a lot of states, but it is heavily regulated. I know we have some in Illinois, but there are restrictions on where they are allowed to be located. I think most are on the Mississippi river.
2023-08-28 15:18
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i checked wikipedia out of curiosity and it states that nevada and louisiana are the only states in which casino-gambling is legal statewide but in every other state casino-gambling is restricted to certain areas (e.g. Altantic City, New Jersey... etc...) guess i wasnt completely right but also not completely wrong, thanks for making me aware
2023-08-28 15:37
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United States MrNorwood
Ah, I see. I guess that makes sense! Thanks.
2023-08-28 15:39
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ESIC is a joke and scam org pull their funding, the employees literally did nothing except for banning good coaches over a bug
2023-08-28 05:08
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“lacklustre” only like 2 guys are being expected to police all of esports apparently, fuck this sensationalist article made just for stupid little cunts in the comments to jerk each other off for ‘how bad’ ESIC is none of the people who hate on ESIC know why they do it, typical fucking social media sheep, get an educated opinion dickheads
2023-08-28 05:11
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#92
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donk | 
World HOWMUCHHOWMUCH
+1
2023-08-28 07:42
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#138
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United States MrNorwood
You may or may not be wrong, but they didn't do themselves any favors by saying, "findings from the first subsection of the investigation would be made public in 'ten days to two weeks' and then going essentially silent after that.
2023-08-28 15:21
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plz Valve ban ESIC
2023-08-28 08:02
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#99
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Brazil Lok72
ESIC must sucky org out there willin t do justice
2023-08-28 08:54
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Imo valve should step in an create there own organisation to govern the pro scene because Esic is useless
2023-08-28 09:21
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#105
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Estonia rYm
Scammest org ever, worst than match fixing itself
2023-08-28 10:22
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ESIC clowns they prolly got a check
2023-08-28 11:03
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Can we stop talking about ESIC please they already shown they are pointless org thanks
2023-08-28 11:13
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Think we need to investigate the ESIC commissioner.. how much money is he pocketing from ESIC?
2023-08-28 11:41
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This is bat shit crazy. At this point ESIC actually seem to do more damage than good to the scene. We are all waiting for the big reveal and purge of match fixers, so we can clean house and move on. And it turns out ESIC has simply forgotten about it.. If you are overwelmend by workload, then do the most imporant thing first. Finish it. And move to the next thing. Communicate what you do, and do what you communicate. It's not that hard.
2023-08-28 12:19
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#121
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cry | 
France taykah
he's just giving his annual interview to justify continuing paying himself 200k to investigate maldives beaches
2023-08-28 13:07
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#131
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Palestine d1zzy_b
yeah bro, but those are some sandy beaches and they need to be inspected properly. stop hating!
2023-08-28 14:00
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#130
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Palestine d1zzy_b
ESIC paid like kings only to drink coffee all day long.
2023-08-28 14:00
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The most useless and the same time the most harmful thing that happened with pro CSGO.
2023-08-28 15:15
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#137
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Qlocuu | 
Poland Tydan
esic is just a money laundring company at this point
2023-08-28 15:20
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People still talk about ESIC? ESIC is a joke, they should all just be named and shamed and then blacklisted from the industry as they have been nothing but a disaster.
2023-08-28 15:43
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#142
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Ukraine dench1k
Imagine how impudent he is! He even says they need MORE financing and resources when in reality all they can do is to ask bettings to check their logs.
2023-08-28 15:54
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#143
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North America minte
nobody cares about you esic
2023-08-28 16:49
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This is just so damning - the fact that ESL was the one that fined Astralis $100,000 for the conflict of interest with no mention of ESIC at all just shows that others have lost trust in ESIC's ability to investigate, follow through and finally back up their findings in court if fought by the player..... Absolute Garbage Commission
2023-08-28 17:48
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#149
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Israel Eldred
paycheck stealer
2023-08-28 18:46
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This is actually a good journalism work. Congratulations to nohte and everyone else involved.
2023-08-28 20:27
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The irony of ESIC saying they need more money to do a good job. Why in hell would the TO's give them even more money when they have shown absolutely no ability to act like a professional organisation with the funds they already have? Ian Smith's "couldn't care less" atitude is enough to show they aren't fit for purpose and should replaced by people who are willing to do the work.
2023-08-28 20:30
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The short answer is PR. Just like the ones checking for cheats at LAN (You can only ensure a cheatfree mouse/keyboard by physically opening up the device, and getting direct access to the onboard chip). It's more PR than efficient checking. It serves to make the public believe a problem is being handled properly. Lying / bending the truth is a gigantic problem for humanity. But as those in power depends heavily on it, they have little interest in stopping it, quite the contrary. Edward Bernays "invented" PR. The first big test / achievement was to make the public in France and England hate / dislike each others. It worked so well that everyone think it has always been like this.
2023-08-29 07:06
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#154
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Canada Lachance
pls get rid of this joke org that is ESIC
2023-08-28 20:48
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#155
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Europe Asviix
I read one line of this and see "FBI had gotten involved" wtf?
2023-08-28 21:52
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#157
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United States donker!
Unfortunately with inaction against the most damaging thing to happen to CS in a long while, what authority does ESIC have now? The evidence was there
2023-08-29 00:25
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Is this the guy that kissed aPex on the mouth after they won? I thought he was banned.
2023-08-29 07:15
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Esic is in on the matches. Betting runs all sports and esports.
2023-08-29 11:02
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