EliGE: "Leaving Liquid had nothing to do with being based in Europe"

The North American rifler discussed his switch from Liquid to Complexity, the state of Counter-Strike 2, and much more on HLTV Confirmed.

Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski was removed from Liquid in the summer season, which ended his eight-year stint with the organization. With no shortage of options, he moved to Complexity, where his presence has visibly improved the squad's performance and led to them making the BLAST Premier Fall Final 2023 over his former teammates. The 26-year-old appeared on HLTV Confirmed on Monday and reflected on his time in Liquid during the show's opening segment.

"It was part of who I was, not only that I played for them but I felt a part of the organization," he said. "It would be hard to rip off the bandaid if they didn't make their own decision. I love Liquid as an organization, I like the players and everyone there, but it wasn't working out."

Despite his love for Liquid, EliGE admitted his removal made sense. "It was the right call for them to replace me. Everyone on the team should be finding solutions together, and that was something we didn't have at the end. It was more about the coach and IGL finding the stuff, compared to everyone finding it.

"I was looking to Mareks [YEKINDAR] about what I should do, and it made me too reliant on him," EliGE said, taking responsibility for his inaction. "It's my own fault that I relied on him too much and didn't find my own solutions."

Liquid relied too much on YEKINDAR, says EliGE

EliGE then touched on the rumors of his reluctance to move to Europe, and the 26-year-old admitted he almost signed for an EU-based Evil Geniuses project in the summer. "During the player break, I was ready to do that," he began. "I was talking to EG, which was going to be an EU-based team.

"Leaving Liquid had nothing to do with being based in Europe. If I was gonna stay on Liquid and the team was going well, I would have gone to Europe for Liquid. It had nothing to do with them wanting to be EU and me NA. I don't wanna go there for a year and upend my whole life, but I was ready to do it for the right team."

After his Evil Geniuses move collapsed, the 26-year-old joined fellow North Americans Complexity. "They're giving me a lot of respect from the moment I joined," he said, comparing it to Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis's reception in Liquid.

"They had a lot of really good things and really good pieces, and they just needed some specific things to help them out. All the ideas they had were really good, and they have a lot of trust in me to come in and try to fix everything. They take my suggestions to heart, and it's been working really well."

EliGE says that Complexity's improvement comes down to a few details

The debate then transitioned to the recent release of CS2. Complexity will get their first test of competitive action in the new game at IEM Sydney, and EliGE expects a chaotic tournament. "I think it's going to be crazy, it's all about who thought of the best things fast enough. I was already theory crafting for CS2 while we were in Liquid, so we have a lot of cool things that are going to be a lot of fun to play around with. I'm pretty excited, as long as there's no crazy bugs that completely ruin the experience. I hope those all get fixed."

When asked about what he would change in the new game, EliGE proposed a small adjustment. "I'm going to go the VALORANT route, the minimum loss bonus should be $1900. I think it's pretty lame if you have to eco twice in this low amount of rounds in a half. It's the easiest change to make that won't impact the game too much.

"It's not fun when you have so many limited rounds because of MR12. We're probably going to see a similar amount of saves that we did before, because guns are so much more important. If you're about to get broken and go on a double eco, of course you're going to save. Maybe there will be even more saving from the teams that weren't doing it before."

EliGE then talked about his dissatisfaction with the game's sound and said that it makes vertical maps such as Vertigo and Nuke nearly impossible to play. "In terms of bugs, I think the sound is such a problem. Vertigo needs to go as soon as possible, that's a map that highlights how bad the sound is. I don't like this thing where they block sound based on a wall being there, it's so hard to hear things."

EliGE touched on whether his age is a liability or an asset in CS and a host of other topics, some more fun and others more serious, throughout the show. You can find the complete VOD embedded above, or you can click here to head directly to the video on the HLTV YouTube channel.

United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1801
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
Latvia Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1287
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.70
#1
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Germany drowC
ok
2023-10-10 16:04
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Goatliege
2023-10-10 16:20
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"They had a lot of really good things and really good pieces, and they just needed some specific things to help them out. All the ideas they had were really good, and they have a lot of trust in me to come in and try to fix everything. They take my suggestions to heart, and it's been working really well." NA GOAT and Jason Lake's savior
2023-10-10 17:33
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Jason Lake seems like a frigging awesome boss. Emotional invested to a unique level. I clearly remember his cheers and tears to this day.
2023-10-11 15:01
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+1. He deserves a strong t1 team for once
2023-10-11 15:05
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Ukraine dench1k
gl
2023-10-10 16:04
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Egypt BomberMan_
Yekindar igling was simply to good to keep elige lol
2023-10-10 16:05
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>"I'm going to go the VALORANT route, the minimum loss bonus should be $1900." eh, should be slightly higher like 2000 or 2100 ngl. And also cut down some of the prices of shit for CTs ffs. Like the A4 and maybe the kit. When it comes to economy, Ts always had the advantage since they dont have to spend as much. MR12 just makes it worse.
2023-10-10 16:06
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9 replies
And tell pro players they dont need m4a4 kit and 4 nades to win against eco just build economy in a smart way
2023-10-10 16:33
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8 replies
now that I think about it...what pisses me off about the pro scene is that teams literally almost always fullbuy instead of doing a like 50/50 when the other team is on eco. That's just how you screw yourself over.
2023-10-10 16:37
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7 replies
yes man even on mr15 I always thought about that
2023-10-10 16:41
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That's because the chances of the other team getting a few lucky Deagle/pistol kills is higher than in normal play. Not only are the players more skilled, they are (mostly) trying to win every round possible.
2023-10-10 17:49
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4 replies
2 deagle entries and the site is lost and 2 weapons are dropped, rounds basically over at that point depending on the map
2023-10-10 22:19
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#71
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United States cybonics
Pull that shit on ancient or anubis and it's gg
2023-10-11 03:54
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inferno aswell, 2 entries on banana and rounds over
2023-10-11 10:19
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Yeah, exactly my point. 2 Deagles aren't hard to hit for a team of pro players, unlike most in MM and (maybe) FaceIT.
2023-10-11 14:34
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United States postwarscars
It's funny because that was a trend that started a long time ago. The standard used to be you'd buy an SMG on 2nd round ECO, because it was more economical as pistols were weak, and then upgrade on proper gun rounds. Over time it changed to full buys because you're more likely to win the round with better weapons, and because other teams were buying deagle/armor combos. This is way back in the original CS. The first time I can recall a team doing the 2nd round rifle buy was SK at ESWC (but it could've been sooner). In fact, there's a video from zEx where you see Sunman's reaction to the buy at 7:28: youtube.com/watch?v=yVUs8A-QD0M Ironically SK lost the round. CSGO/CS2 is a bit different though, Eco rounds are way more successful because pistols aren't as weak as they were in 1.6. Anyway, long rant that's off the main topic. The main thing here related to your first post is: why the fuck are kits still so expensive? They're $50 in 1.6/Source. It's one of the biggest reasons teams don't always attempt retakes, because they lose the single kit they have on a half-buy/full-buy. With the way CS is played these days, with far less risk on retakes, you'd think Valve would've readjusted the price back to something reasonable.
2023-10-10 18:12
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Yekindar will lose everything and playing in t2 if he keeps going like this
2023-10-10 16:06
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iirc, daps will IGL in Sydney instead of yekindar, meaning there's a chance that liquid will look for an actual IGL instead of letting yekindar IGL
2023-10-10 16:22
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daps will iln only in 2024 :) unless liquid get invited for roobet cup or another t2 online tournaments like thunderpick, because they are skipping remaning blasts and that china event
2023-10-10 16:31
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oh shit true, I totally forgot that liquid has no events this year anymore (unless they're invited in online cups like you mentioned XD) nevertheless, it's good for liquid that yekindar's not IGLing
2023-10-10 16:48
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they were supposed to attend the CAC in Shanghai but they had to withdraw due to visa issues.
2023-10-10 21:59
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why are they skipping, may have missed it
2023-10-10 19:55
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not sure either, the good thing is that yekindar probably won't IGL again, and will hopefully continue to unleash his entrying potential
2023-10-10 20:06
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United States evanc
They're not skipping blast, they didn't qualify because they're trash lol. They bombed out of fall groups, and needed to win the showdown to make the fall final, which they didn't do. In order to be invited to the blast world final, I think they would have to win a major tournament, of which there aren't any since there's no second major this year.
2023-10-11 16:57
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awesome episode
2023-10-10 16:07
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It was just based decision in general.
2023-10-10 16:07
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Not really. He will win nothing in an NA team.
2023-10-10 16:32
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Cuba meIody
he won a grand slam in an NA team. has EU liquid won anything yet?
2023-10-10 23:12
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Finland HARD4ENCE
That was 4 years ago. That was the last time NA team won an event.
2023-10-11 08:44
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United States PlankCS
As if Liquid has any chances of winning anything either.
2023-10-11 00:08
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Finland HARD4ENCE
They don't. But the guy should have joined an EU team if he had any competitive ambition. Instead it looks like he just wanted to secure the bag. On the positive side though an NA team can pretty easily slot in European players and become international if needs be. And I think that's what's inevitably going to happen to Complexity too.
2023-10-11 08:53
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If they go MR12 they need to revamp the economy, especially on CT
2023-10-10 16:12
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its already here, just havent gotten economy changes yet. Removing the 1400 loss bonus and increasing the loss bonus would help alot, maybe also slash some prices of CT exclusive items like the molly grenade, kit, and maybe even the A4.
2023-10-10 16:16
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Good luck for Jonathan E
2023-10-10 16:23
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"I was looking to Mareks [YEKINDAR] about what I should do, and it made me too reliant on him," "It's my own fault that I relied on him too much and didn't find my own solutions." yekindar was right all along, he had to teach stone age igs winners how to play the game, he built the structure, respect him even more now
2023-10-10 16:42
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And hes also the reason Liquid is dying as a team now lmao.
2023-10-10 16:45
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Liquid is dying because of bad management, the one that naf so highly praised :)
2023-10-10 16:47
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He praised liquid in comparaison to eg tbf. Liquid tried a low risk investment with rainwaker and in some extent with patsi and it didn't work. I doubt daps will remain in the current roster, even Osee, specially as the main awp. The biggest gamble was letting yekindar igl. At the same time, he had to test it. I think he tried too much. He was hired as a "star player" and he tried to be the captain europea. Find a real igl and let him cook a bit. If one player (like Osee for ex) cannot follow the pace, cut him.
2023-10-10 19:13
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yekindar absolutely can igl, just dont give him washed players like patsi and unproven rainwaker.
2023-10-10 20:10
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In this different time of his career, yes. Man, did you watch his cam ? The guy is full tilting, never happy, even when they win (which not happens very often tbf). Imagine the pressure on under players. Elige talked a bit about the team atmosphere in Liquid. You need to relax a bit to feel confident. He looks ultra stress. A good igl can handle his frustration. He is too young and too immature atm. It is obvious at this point. Sure, he didn't have the great piece, but other good/great igls don't go nuke mode than they lost. He takes the game way too much personal IMO.
2023-10-10 21:03
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you're right, till next time i guess, because liquid high iq managers are going to ruin team even more making daps lead the team. tbf i dont even know what players they can get realistically. maybe when faze collapse twiszz will comeback home? big if true, i'd like to see ropz as well, but both naf and ropz are lurkers, maybe if naf's t roles will be "swapped around like potatoes" like in this roster it will work out? yekindar igl and it will be such a good team yekindar wont be frustrated and agry anymore. Twistzz seems started getting washed but it's ok, he clears patsi even being in off-form don't go nuke mode than they lost you're exaggerating, he is nothing like that
2023-10-10 22:03
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I'm exaggerated like you said liquid have 0iq management. They will go for cadian except falcons goes with a crazy roster. They will cut osee and go on the rmr open qualifier or they will keep osee as a support player. It is kinda obvious. Even pimp and bubski called their pr bs. Patsi said daps is temporary, yekindsr said the opposite. They have someone in mind, they just can't call tell the player. Edit : yekindar is still a excellent mid caller, but atm he is below average igl. He doesn't have a deep stratbook and his calls were kinda predictable. You can blame daps for that too thought.
2023-10-11 02:04
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Liquid wouldn't have lost 16-4 16-2 to Complexity if YEKINDAR wasn't igl'ing, just an obvious fact.
2023-10-10 21:04
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He is playing better so i believe it was the best decision. Goat Elige
2023-10-10 17:00
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based bro just saved his carrier
2023-10-10 17:48
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Europa based
2023-10-10 18:43
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Andorra mopGOD420
The only good Jonathan E
2023-10-10 19:24
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Destroyer | 
Other Marauder_
sure
2023-10-10 19:30
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Morocco AMABATUKAM
Based
2023-10-10 19:30
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United Kingdom zouhaun
having a gf in a vc money org playing in na esl impact, underperforming each year and now struggling under an eu igl and eu style, and all of a sudden you have the chance to downgrade to another rich organisation and get your ass kissed and chance of qualifying to a major 10x easier in na, ofc is had nothing to do with being based in eu :) because no eu team is looking for a struggling star player who will probably not fit in their system and get kicked in 6 months, imagine what that does to eliges image
2023-10-10 21:23
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Europe yommamas
yeah, I wish people would be just honest
2023-10-11 08:46
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hes right, its bc hes a bot
2023-10-10 21:46
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CAP. Then why not move to a good european team?
2023-10-10 22:20
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#77
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Russia monkasam
he has to protect his "all american" image. its all PR bullshit. fucking sad. and like others have said, do you really think Elige would perform well in a structured EU team? he wouldnt settle for a low tier EU team due to that image he has and no top EU team would consider him. It was clear that he did not want to even bootcamp in EU during his time with Liquid so dont give me this bs Elige..
2023-10-11 12:18
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elige based af goes bald, switch to USA team, wins against ex-team in grand final, qualifies to Blast Fall Final with ease.
2023-10-11 01:05
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Germany lookymd
he wouldt qualify for even one event if he would play in EU
2023-10-11 15:09
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Test
2023-10-11 16:43
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