floppy: "The game isn't in its most polished state and it doesn't feel as rewarding"

Ricky "⁠floppy⁠" Kemery discusses the current state of Counter-Strike 2 and Complexity's first win at IEM Sydney.

floppy is unhappy with the state of Counter-Strike 2

As one of the few teams to play both the ESL Pro League playoffs and the BLAST Premier Fall Showdown and have travel days in between, Complexity's preparation for Counter-Strike 2 was understandably scarce.

Despite that the North American side have stepped into the first big LAN in the new game, IEM Sydney, on the right foot with a victory over Monte in the opening round of Group B, setting up a match for a spot in the playoffs against G2.

Following the match, HLTV spoke to floppy about all things Counter-Strike 2 and IEM Sydney. The 23-year-old did not try to hide his dislike for the new game and outlined why it currently feels "unpolished" and like "rolling dice."

He also gave praise to two of his teammates, Johnny "⁠JT⁠" Theodosiou for his performance in the opening match as well as Jonathan "⁠EliGE⁠" Jablonowski for his contribution to improving communication overall.


You just beat Monte and got revenge for EPL a bit as well. How did that feel?

That game I felt kind of useless, I wasn't really doing anything and I was more focused on trying to hear what was going on with the in-game audio the whole game. For me personally, it doesn't really feel that rewarding at the moment with the state of the game, it just doesn't really feel that cool.

What do you mean by that?

The game isn't in its most polished state right now and it doesn't feel as rewarding because of that. There's so many things that can be improved upon in my opinion. It's not like it's unfair, but it's more just... I don't know, it feels kind of lame to me the way the game is right now.

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 Complexity K - D Swing ADR KAST Rating2.0
27 - 12 +10.45% 103.2 86.4% 1.87
18 - 16 +5.63% 88.8 72.7% 1.25
12 - 13 +1.28% 66.0 81.8% 1.03
11 - 14 -2.03% 60.5 72.7% 0.95
9 - 17 -4.40% 62.9 81.8% 0.77

Basically because [you feel] it isn't ready for tournament play, the win means less?

Yeah. Like this game is not going to be ready for another couple of months, in my opinion.

How much time did you have to practice, considering you were in the Showdown before as well?

We scrimmed a bit of CS2 and CS:GO during the BLAST Showdown. We definitely haven't had that much practice in CS2, but we've done all we can do so far considering the schedule. It is what it is.

What are your impressions so far, both based on that practice but also now with your first LAN game?

Not really a fan right now. The three main things for me are that I can't hear anything, I can't hold angles, and it feels weird to spray. Those are the main points for me that make the game not feel as good.

Any difference today on LAN versus the practice online?

Well we scrimmed here in Sydney on the Sydney server, so it was as close to LAN as we could get with 0 ping on the scoreboard. I think I need more reps in different games, so we'll see over time.

JT seems to be doing pretty well-

Dude, Johnny is owning! Did he actually drop 30 that game? I'm not sure if he dropped 30, but it felt like it. This guy was winning everything, it was really sick to see.

The desk beforehand said that Monte were favorites, did you feel like that going in?

No, I mean... I feel like with this being the first LAN in CS2, anything can happen between any team. This is anyone's game at the moment.

floppy says EliGE has brought a new naming system

I'm not sure about now, but I know that your team used to do quite a bit of prep going into games when AntO_oNNN used to do whole sheets for you and whatnot. Not much material for a lot of teams to go off here, but Monte are one of the few who've played an official CS2 game. Did you end up looking at that going into this, and what did you take away from it if you did?

We watched what we could. It's kind of hard because at the moment when you want to watch a demo, you can't if the map is updated at any point, like the game just doesn't let you. Your game literally crashes if you try and watch an older demo, so the most we could do is watch VODs on Twitch and just watch the radar and watch what the teams are doing from the first person. In that sense it's a bit annoying, I think it'll probably get fixed over time hopefully, Valve Time, but we'll see.

Your last time in Australia didn't go so great, you played in Melbourne before the Major. How does it feel to come back and start with a win here?

It feels good. We didn't play up to our expectations back in Melbourne, we did win our first game back then too, but we'd like to continue the run after having a good first game so it feels good.

We've heard a bit from EliGE and Grim, Grim more specifically, about playing with EliGE in this team. What has it been like for you in terms of how things have changed or how you feel on the server, since especially at EPL you were doing really well individually?

Playing with Jon gave us a really good system of naming stuff, and it makes things faster for how we want to react to what they are doing. Every team has a really similar stratbook, so if we recognize what that team is doing, we have a name for it and we can just say it so we all know, we're all on the same page. We're painting the picture in our mind really easily with just a simple keyword, so I think that helps a lot. Jon is really easy to work with in terms of talking about mistakes and coming up with solutions. Having Jon on the team is really good for us.

Going into your game tomorrow you have G2, any early thoughts on that match?

Like I said earlier, I think anything can happen in this game right now, so I think I'm just going to treat it as such. I'm not going to say it's completely random, obviously they are a good group of skilled players, but I just think the game at its current state really feels like anything can happen, you can roll a dice. When I'm trying to shoot my gun and I see other people just spraying their gun down for five seconds and nothing is happening, it's just a bit ridiculous, so anything can happen.

Date Matches
IEM Sydney 2023
17/10/2023
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Not afraid of any nerdy nades or plays from m0NESY?

Uh, not yet. Nothing that hasn't already been posted, so we'll see.

United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1802
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
United States Ricky 'floppy' Kemery
Ricky 'floppy' Kemery
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1011
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.66
South Africa Johnny 'JT' Theodosiou
Johnny 'JT' Theodosiou
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
1259
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.68
#1
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Poland Astoner55
Agreed
2023-10-16 17:12
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going back to csgo launch, people were crying even harder, give it a year and nobody will miss csgo
2023-10-16 17:15
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Only a year? Can we get CS:GO back in the meantime?
2023-10-16 17:16
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lul
2023-10-16 17:16
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No? Only a year, its 2023, but still need a year to get a game that matches the standards that were set in the previous one. Are u right in the head?
2023-10-16 17:21
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tf, why you attacking me for lmao
2023-10-16 17:25
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Very simple, u said give it a year. Like why the fuck should anyone give them a year? Valve is trash and incompetent.
2023-10-16 17:26
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because good things take a while? lol no game ever came out perfect, at least not in the last 10 years since developers can ship frequent updates.
2023-10-16 17:27
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Not many games have come out as broken as cs2 did either Why the fuck does every pleb now defend broken trash releases? "Oh u can't compare this with a game that's been updated for 10 years" Yes I fuckin can, if ure releasing a game do it properly, don't launch an unfinished mess that will take a year to fix, ru kidding me?
2023-10-16 19:00
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the probelm is, you nerds care so much about it because your life is miserable, and now that your favorite video game is broken, you get mad upset, i couldn't care less, thats the difference
2023-10-16 19:17
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Then why you comment?
2023-10-16 19:48
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bruh, if u pay for something u want it to became usable/playable...
2023-10-17 23:04
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tell me you never played cs:go at launch, without telling me you never played cs:go at launch.
2023-10-17 04:30
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+1 😂 csgo was a shit show, i'm not saying that cs2 is better but i think that it will bee better then csgo ones the game is finished xD
2023-10-17 15:27
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mos def. it feels like the ceiling for cs2 is so much higher than go, and that's super exciting to think about.
2023-10-18 05:50
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+1
2023-10-16 18:33
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CSGO Was made by a tiny little team of indie devs hidden path. CS2 is made by VALVe reaking in 21 billion dollars in profits per year. dunno why would you ever bring that up.
2023-10-16 20:00
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same shit could be said about every single AAA game that comes out half broken lol, it is what it is, deal with it, its just a fucking video game in the end of the day.
2023-10-16 20:06
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The difference being, every time an AAA comes out with performance issues and too many glitches, its heavily criticized for it and there isn't a task force of npc's like you running head in to make damage control for it. Counter-Strike has never had this much power behind its launch as in 2023, the VALVe that launched CS Source in 2004 wasn't even 10% the size and prestige of VALVe in 2023.
2023-10-16 20:11
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not hating the game = npc thats the issue, you guys are so unbelievably addicted to this game that you get super pissed when there are people who don't care as much and just play it and wait for updates. instead you go on all socials and cry your heart out over a video game lmaooo
2023-10-16 20:21
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The idea that you will call anyone who legitimately critcizes the game "hater" proves that you are a massive npc. The most embarassing part however, is that being called an npc bothers you, why? npc's seem to be happier than genuine human beings who can think and see things for what they are.
2023-10-16 20:23
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bro thinks I actually care what an addicted geek calls me on the internet haha, keep crying over aa video game bro, I am sure you're gonna go far in life!
2023-10-16 20:29
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"thats the issue" "i dont care" I dont care but its an issue. stunning iq there, i think i broke your already weak script, my dear npc.
2023-10-16 20:31
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the amount of tears hahah
2023-10-16 20:41
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"the amount of tears haha" = *404 script not found* imgflip.com/s/meme/NPC.jpg
2023-10-16 21:03
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If you didn't care, you wouldn't have been arguing with him like this. Just saying. OVER A VIDEO GAME btw, in your words.
2023-10-17 04:06
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Poland BAN_ANIME
"The difference being, every time an AAA comes out with performance issues and too many glitches, its heavily criticized for it and there isn't a task force of npc's like you running head in to make damage control for it." thats... not true? Did you forgot Cyberpunk?
2023-10-16 20:42
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Cyberpunk got universally roasted, are YOU the one who's retconing cyberpunk's release? i followed the game since 2013, the few dumbasses defending that game got clowned on 24/7 , only around patch 1.6 - 1.63 did the game start getting more normie support. Even console retards destroyed this game because it literally ran at 18fps on PS4 and 13 fps on Xbox One.
2023-10-16 21:02
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#75
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Poland BAN_ANIME
yeah it got roasted, just as cs2 is roasted right now hltv was full of cs2 hate post, people posting loba saying its shit, there is literally this brazilian guy that made an account just to shit on cs2 lmao and its still going on i don't see how it is any different than with other games - there is always that one group of people going "yeah guys its completely amazing, you are just hating!"
2023-10-16 22:15
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#77
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Poland BAN_ANIME
oh and just in case - i absolutely think this game should be delayed by like 4 months at least, or at least go open beta and then fix the more critical bugs before changing csgo
2023-10-16 22:24
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Difference is people were still able to play 1.6 and Source, they didn't have their game version overwritten by Cs:Go.
2023-10-16 18:41
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Poland BAN_ANIME
you can still play csgo lol
2023-10-16 20:34
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You can't play MM which is what the majority of the userbase played. If you want to play Cs:Go you now have to rely on external match making services.
2023-10-16 21:55
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#73
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Poland BAN_ANIME
then you should be more precise because there is a big difference between something being overwritten and something available but without online matchmaking (which i am pretty sure cs 1.6 and css doesn't have either)
2023-10-16 22:03
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The point i was making is that the Cs:Go most people played is now gone and overwritten by CS2, Cs:Go now only exists in a neutered form that most people will not access due to it not having the part they cared about. 1.6 and css did not have competitive matchmaking baked in but most people at that time did not play competitive game modes and instead played private server custom game modes so Cs:Go's introduction had almost 0 impact on 1.6 and css players other than diluting the player base. CS2 had to overwrite Cs:Go, they couldn't let the userbase split again like it did with 1.6 and css so its not like i disagree with their decision, they just made the decision too early in my eyes and have now forced the userbase into playing a subpar experience for what im guessing is some financial target the company has.
2023-10-16 22:32
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Poland BAN_ANIME
oh yeah i agree about decision being too early, 4 months more in the beta imo at least or run an open one along csgo
2023-10-16 22:34
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I downloaded cs:go 2013 from steam in the beta section, and for me cs:go 2013 > light years > cs2, I doubt that cs:go in 2012 was that bad in the beginning, besides that people were coming from css and cs 1.6 so yes, it was surprising, but now the situation is different we are leaving cs:go which was fine for this crap
2023-10-16 19:31
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I put in thousands of hours in CSS and 1.6. I first started playing CSGO in March 2013. I thought it was great right away. Only thing I remember noticing how poor the movement was compared to 1.6 and CSS but except for that the game was already great and tbh not much really changed since. Aimpunch reduced, awp nerf, improved maps, different sounds. That is about it.
2023-10-16 20:49
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it took them about 3 years to fix the hitboxes and ladder hitboxes were a mess. game was pure shite at launch. 'I doubt that cs:go in 2012 was that bad in the beginning' it's funny because you have 0 clue how bad it was yet you still think you're entitled to an opinion about it. funny.
2023-10-16 23:12
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2013-2017 most amazing CS:GO years in every aspect. proffesional & amateur
2023-10-17 03:41
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1 reply
2023-10-17 12:15
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exactly! most of these people have no fucking idea how shit GO was at launch and are bitching like they do.
2023-10-17 04:34
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I started playing cs:go in 2014 and the game was great for me, it was a pleasure to play, I remember playing the beta in 2011 and yes the game was terrible, but I couldn't test it at launch in 2012, because my PC There had been problems, but I do remember that people complained a lot, but as I said, this 2013 version available in the Steam beta is quite pleasant in my opinion.
2023-10-17 12:22
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#99. you can't possibly see the issues with the game just by looking at an older branch, you should've seen it live with multiplayer to experience all the garbage issues it had
2023-10-17 12:31
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CSGO was a new game though, CS2 is just a shitty update to CSGO.
2023-10-16 19:51
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No, cs2 is a new game..
2023-10-17 15:34
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Why do I have like 7000 hours already in this brand new game on steam?
2023-10-17 20:29
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bad game S1mple is right
2023-10-16 17:12
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Dtop crying its us and the pros who have to polish the game..even if CS2 would have been in beta for 3 yrs it would never feel polished untill its played at the highest level and by 1000000 people. just shutup and report bugs to valve and stop crying pls
2023-10-16 17:47
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Sorry but if the best say the game is bad then it is bad no arguments left on the other side
2023-10-17 02:52
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COL taking the W over G2
2023-10-16 17:13
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Philippines jeithpro
"this game doesnt feel rewarding" from floppy. If you feel like garbage in this game you could actually take a break bruh
2023-10-16 17:38
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United Kingdom kennyvenom
> game is lame and doesn't feel rewarding > johnny is owning, it was sick to see ok
2023-10-16 17:39
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Floppy based They killed CSGoat for this Congrats Volvo
2023-10-16 17:40
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Funny you say that despite CSGO leaving the scene at an atrociously buggy state. You couldn't even change resolution mid game without it crashing. People seem not to have any memories at all.
2023-10-16 17:57
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#25
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United States Phamous3k
It’s the feel… No matter what cheater, bugs, etc. that CSGO polish & feel is pretty legendary.
2023-10-16 18:35
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csgo,at a atrocious buggy state is 10x better than polished cs2,they somehow made the gameplay feel way worse and sluggish on a "better" engine
2023-10-16 18:56
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Looks like some people haven't put in time to adapt.
2023-10-17 05:53
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#76
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United States 2046
Gameplay precedes all and csgo had the best gameplay of any fps ever
2023-10-16 22:22
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Yes, of course bot frag with skill issue complaining
2023-10-16 17:52
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yes literally every pro agrees the games shit rn,some just have a better attitude and wanna be optimistic
2023-10-16 18:57
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#55
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South America imnotwinning
Ur getting paid for playing, if u dont like ur job quit
2023-10-16 20:25
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thats def a good logic,dont criticize the game even if its being made notably worse because thats ur job and ur getting paid!
2023-10-16 23:00
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#83
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South America imnotwinning
Ye imagine getting payed more than an average person and not doing ur job
2023-10-16 23:16
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has someone refused to play? I understand if ur jealous about this while working ur shit 9-5 but they can complain theres nothing wrong with it,
2023-10-16 23:19
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#85
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South America imnotwinning
"I wasn't really doing anything and I was more focused on trying to hear what was going on with the in-game audio"
2023-10-16 23:20
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he still played??
2023-10-16 23:21
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#87
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flairr | 
South America imnotwinning
Can't argue with 0IQ eu
2023-10-16 23:23
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do u think that with "i wasnt really doing anything" he literally meant that he wasn't trying lmfao,he had problems with the game but still did his "job",ofc u conveniently didnt put the full sentence where he said " i felt kinda useless" first obv implying that he couldn't do anything with the later sentence,but yea im the 0iq u dont even have a real point to begin with dumbass
2023-10-16 23:29
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#19
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flairr | 
South America imnotwinning
Ye stop crying and give me positive points on fantasy
2023-10-16 17:54
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Europe XXXPAK1
Said the guy who left csgo for valorant then came back
2023-10-16 18:13
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whos the IGL in this team? never bothered to think about Col bc I never took them seriously
2023-10-16 18:29
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#29
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
jt
2023-10-16 18:53
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#23
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United States jschleg
game might not be for floppy. adjust or retire tbh
2023-10-16 18:30
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#27
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United States sziasztok
"I don't know, it feels kind of lame to me the way the game is right now." Even after watching so many MR12 games, I still cant even remember that games are shorter. Every time a game hits halftime or a team wins, I am always taken off-gaurd like "oh, thats it?" This game just feels like a weird dream
2023-10-16 18:48
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#30
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
I feel the same haha it's so weird, I hope we get used to it with time but I 100% agree with floppy, the game just feels weird
2023-10-16 18:54
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Well, people had this feeling before when it became mr15. If this was the only problem in the game, things would be easier, lol.
2023-10-16 19:12
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go back to mr15 or at the very least mr14, this mr12 casual shit is embarrassing
2023-10-16 18:56
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Basically because [you feel] it isn't ready for tournament play, the win means less? Yeah. Like this game is not going to be ready for another couple of months, in my opinion. valve maybe ask pros next time if it is ready to release if you invite them to your office
2023-10-16 18:57
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yea valve really messed up valorant is definitely the better game at the moment. -better movement -better rank system -far less cheaters -less glitches -more polished
2023-10-16 19:19
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nah bro, movement is still far superior in cs2
2023-10-16 19:39
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nope lol valorant is way smoother its like 1.6
2023-10-16 19:43
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#60
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Poland BAN_ANIME
thankfully valorant community is awful enough so they balance out the pros of the game 👍 also how is valorant rank system better
2023-10-16 20:31
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I don't expect gamers to be the brainy type but jesus the way he answered the first two questions makes me wonder if these people have any brains at all. Like you complained about the game and called it useless and lame, you gotta to explain yourself and give some reasonings. How else do they know what to fix? Vague and non-constructive answers are just the worst.
2023-10-16 19:22
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It feels awful just as mr12
2023-10-16 19:38
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"Not really a fan right now. The three main things for me are that I can't hear anything, I can't hold angles, and it feels weird to spray. Those are the main points for me that make the game not feel as good." - Audio thing is bad. - Holding thing is good. - Spray I don't know what he means by spray.
2023-10-16 19:45
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Not wrong
2023-10-16 19:53
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The movement isn’t much different It’s not really slower. It just looks like the FOV is lowered a little. It’s slightly more zoomed in using the same settings as Csgo. I used to go back and forth from 90 to 110 FOV on quake and Unreal. As for spraying, seems a little random. Is there a spray pattern printout like in Csgo to study? Is it the same?
2023-10-16 20:18
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#54
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Poland BAN_ANIME
pretty sure someone made a comparison video and its the same... edit: reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/16.. yeah its pretty much the same
2023-10-16 20:27
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Well it's not the same when you play so somehow something is going on here.. maybe it's because he's doing this offline and subtick might behave like a bitch when online!?
2023-10-16 21:06
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#70
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Poland BAN_ANIME
maybe? different sounds and visuals may also play a part in it
2023-10-16 21:37
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#56
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Destroyer | 
Other Marauder_
the saddest part is whenever you suggest or point out an issue or something to improve, you are just a hater living in the past. Do people that say this actually play the game?
2023-10-16 20:27
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#57
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Canada _penguins
My goat
2023-10-16 20:28
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It doesn't feel rewarding because what you see is not what you get.
2023-10-16 21:04
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Bottom fragging cry baby Edit: #69 nice
2023-10-16 21:17
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#74
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North America Karismaaa
true. "I have no motivation and played like ass, so yeah, game blows"
2023-10-16 22:04
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#71
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Brazil 4vengerr
csgo is gone, deal with it..
2023-10-16 21:54
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#89
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World Kobs
from version to version it looks like same maps are smaller and players are biggers , it s strange.. from 1.6 to go to cs2.. maybe it s just a impression but that game feel weird also cause it dosen t even look better than csgo and it s not better to play, , it look like a cartoon ,if it was looking closer to reality it would be way better and we would give time to valve to fix things..
2023-10-17 00:07
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Im so happy that CS:GOVNO is over ; players who are average, incompetent and ineffective like floppy in CS2 will be eliminated sooner than expected thats why they are crying Don't get me wrong, CSGO 2013-2017 was perfect, but after 2018 its just average pug robotic CS game based on same & same CS2 is not perfect atm, but it is good game ; gonna be better for sure. I see a little piece of CS 1.6 in this game and thats piece of quality ; watching IEM Sydney matches is just awesome ; pure joy. CS2 has bright future.
2023-10-17 03:31
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#94
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Argentina fribergoat
Floppy is like NA Rez, dk what is he doing on t1
2023-10-17 04:07
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Sounds like a clear cut skill issue. This dude is the most replaceable player on CoL he should start practicing before he gets dropped.
2023-10-17 06:36
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