Twistzz: "I think pros need to be doing a way better job at leading by example"

Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken has reiterated his stance against widespread negativity around CS2, telling HLTV that unconstructive criticism "hurts the game the most."

FaZe stay alive at IEM Sydney after an action-packed first couple of days. Having lost a double-overtime opener against GamerLegion, they eliminated Vitality from the tournament on day one and went on to send home Natus Vincere on day two.

HLTV's Danish "Nohte" Allana got a hold of Twistzz for an interview at the end of the second day. The Canadian touched on FaZe's Mirage loss to a Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev-less NAVI and the team's upcoming rematch against GamerLegion before getting into his impressions of Counter-Strike 2 on LAN.

While he agreed that there are issues to be addressed, Twistzz stressed he still finds the game fun and said that the widespread negativity around the game might be doing more harm than good, calling on other pros to be more mindful of their criticism.

You can read or listen to the full interview below:


You just beat NAVI and are still in the lower bracket, but getting closer to the playoffs. How does that feel, managing that win after a bit of a rough start to the tournament?

Honestly, I don't think the win is that impressive just because they have a stand-in situation. It would have been a better test if we played the actual NAVI lineup, it'd probably be more rewarding, but the most important thing is just that we survived the match. Now we have to fix our mistakes on Mirage.

Tell me about that series and those mistakes on Mirage, what was going on for you?

I think we got stagnant on CT side, we just wanted to rely on one thing that we were doing in practice and we weren't moving around a lot. It wasn't like Overpass, where we were confident and made readjustments and whatever. We have some work to do on this map, obviously the game is new and we've had roughly seven, eight practice days in the game. That probably goes for a lot of teams, at least us and G2 for sure because they played the Showdown.

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You made a Tweet a while ago talking about how it was harder for you to split focus since CS2 came out, that it's hard to focus on CS:GO and motivate yourself. How are you feeling now that the game is fully out and you've been able to transition?

It's good. I still have other things in my life taking focus away, but I've been trying my hardest to play as much as possible. I was one of the people who played a lot with ropz when he was streaming, I was streaming it myself and getting used to the game. I feel like I put a decent amount of hours into it before this event, but I feel like I should still be doing more. That is what my team deserves and I'm gonna continue trying to put work in.

Both ENCE and G2 mentioned that it's hard to adapt with so many new things coming out during matches from teams, there are a lot of new plays, a lot of different things that teams are running. GamerLegion ended up beating you on Nuke, and NiKo mentioned Nuke was a bit harder of a map because of how much new stuff teams are doing. Do you regret that pick to start off the tournament, at all?

No, Nuke was the map we played good in practice, so we just wanted to believe in it. We would have won that game, we lost a 1on3 to be in OT, so that game should have been ours regardless of the scoreline.

There was one thing that they did that was really good that we'll most likely end up copying, but other than that I feel like we had the better Nuke.

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Coming into this event it's been a rough run of events for FaZe as a whole, a lot of early exits compared to how you used to play. It's obviously a new game now, but what do you feel has been going wrong for FaZe as a whole outside of what you talked about in your Tweet?

What I talked about in my Tweet was just myself individually. For me, it's different because there's interesting stuff in the new game to find, new stuff in all my positions to find, so it's more exciting stuff to work on.

Prior to CS2 releasing, it's really hard to pin down things, what's going wrong in the team or whatever. This is not stuff that I'd share with the public, if people are making mistakes, and that's about it. Just overall team regression, I guess. We've regressed in a lot of ways, and now with the new game we have to work on that. It's kind of a fresh slate to work on.

You have another chance to make playoffs and are going into a rematch against GamerLegion tomorrow. What are your early thoughts on that?

Not really. I feel like we should have won the BO1 against them. Obviously, teams like this have an advantage because they've probably been playing CS2 for a while, but at the same time they just changed an IGL, so maybe it's not that much of an advantage. It'll probably just come down to who's better on the maps that are picked and who's just more adapted to the new game so far. That's what it'll come down to.

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Lastly, speaking about the new game, how are you feeling now that we've played on LAN?

I still think it's good. I said in my Tweet that the game is for sure playable in its current state. I felt that way online in practice, I felt like it's playable. On LAN it feels a bit better, but I still feel like the game is vastly inconsistent in a lot of ways, how the models look when people are peeking you, how the game feels for you when you're peeking into someone. It's almost like on different textures you have more momentum when peeking, and it's very odd.

Say you're running down the stairs in boiler, it's probably really hard for someone to peek you or to hold an angle when you're reaching the bottom of the stairs if you're holding boiler. I killed iM trying to walk long and I swung out boiler, and there was this slight elevation change, and it just seemed like b1t had no chance to react, where in CS:GO it should be a 50:50 duel with this swing.

I still think peeker's advantage is a problem. I think that hinders the game in a lot of ways because, at the end of the day, crosshair placement should be rewarded in CS, and when you're holding angles it's kinda non-existent. Rather peek than be peeked.

Snax kind of described it to me as the whole game feeling slow until you're peeking someone, then it feels fast.

Yeah, that's really true. The other inconsistencies, sometimes your bullets make it look like you hit someone much more than it actually says. You're gonna be like, "yeah this guy is definitely tagged, like 73 in 3," and then you see you only hit him one time for like 27, blood everywhere. That could just be because subtick feels a lot more like 64tick.

For me, personally, I hate this lack of b-hopping, I feel like movement was such a special thing in GO, and that just blands down the game a bit. Some players should be rewarded for having better movement than others.

But at the moment I feel like it's fun on LAN especially. Zero ping, things are connecting a bit better, bullets are hitting and they hit good. Everyone always says the negative stuff about the game, and like I said in my Tweet I don't think harping on the issues does anything. No one's dick-riding the game, we just want to play. At the end of the day it's our job to play and do it at the highest level, and that's what we're gonna do, that's what pros should do.

To be honest, I've seen a lot of pros Tweeting and they just say the game is shit, they don't give any details why they think it's bad, or no productive feedback, and that's what hurts the game the most. The community and casuals look up to these players and then whatever notable voice says some shit about the game, that it's bad, they're just gonna leech onto that voice and try to share the same opinion. I think pros need to be doing a way better job at leading by example.

Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
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Ukraine Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
26
Rating 1.0:
1.24
Maps played:
1723
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.63
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2023-10-17 17:16
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valve must be joking....... this game was nice when 128 was available WHAT ARE U DOING VOLV JUST BRING BACK 128 AND UR FREE
2023-10-17 22:15
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128 ticks and just get rid of the sub-tick as I bet you that's what's messing with folks minds
2023-10-17 23:21
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Nice one Twistzz <3
2023-10-17 17:18
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based Twistzz.
2023-10-17 17:19
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#158
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Germany Sol1taire
what does based mean in zoomer born in 2005 speak?
2023-10-21 05:25
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He's wrong The only way we can get the game we all want is by constantly annoying valve with its flaws, I know He said that Most of the pros Just said the game is ass but thats Not true at all, Most of the pros gave good reasons and even better yet, ways to fix the problems ITS the people on FaZe who are literally crying hard af about people Not loving cs2 from the start, ropz & now twistzz
2023-10-17 17:23
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#41
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United States Chuffer
do you think valve cares? Why would they?
2023-10-17 17:53
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30k viewers and playerbase down 10% since cs2 release
2023-10-17 18:28
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Sorry but I dont believe that statistic in the slightest without actual proof. Even if this game is worse, there are definitely more people playing. Casuals will play anything thats new.
2023-10-17 18:41
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2023-10-17 18:44
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But it's literally still higher than it was in CSGO. It's just down from the launch of CS2 which is pretty reasonable. Those guys usually give the 'new game' up in around a month. That being said, I would have assumed it would still be higher than last month. Thats definitely down to the state of the game.
2023-10-17 18:47
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Not higher than csgo recently, certainly not higher than its peak. The rest u said it urself. So yeah if this trend continues valve will care.
2023-10-17 18:52
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it also says that the drop in juli was worse. how you explain that
2023-10-17 23:36
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I would figure performance issues would be part of that. Could easily argue that maybe 30% of csgo player base played on low end to average PCs which ran csgo fine but can’t run cs2. If the game doesn’t get optimized it will lose players in the long run imo. Or people will be forced to upgrade.
2023-10-17 20:26
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#141
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
do you really believe that people who didn't have a good PC will buy a new one just because of CS? I am one of those people and I certainly won't, I just won't play the game anymore, the same applies to other people I know.
2023-10-18 18:32
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No I’m not saying that. I’m just saying that would be the only Option if they don’t optimize it. I’m just more confused like valve forgot their player base and how many players play on low end to average pcs. Run csgo fine but can’t run cs2 atm. Even people with good pcs got a significant drop in performance. Game might look better but certain runs and plays a lot worse.
2023-10-18 20:32
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You srsly tryin to ignore thats its midnight in eu and rus while games are played ?
2023-10-17 21:20
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We love watching matches from 11-6am. They should bring back souvenir drops that are UNTRADEABLE for public for viewership. Keeps it from becoming a bot farm again and let the pickems/viewer pass money for tradeable ones continue.
2023-10-17 22:13
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lol do you have the steam marketplace sales? You think valve cares more about a +/- % of people actually playing the game?
2023-10-18 02:27
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twistzz is hella based. 'The only way we can get the game we all want is by constantly annoying valve with its flaws' this is when the developers usually start ignoring community feedback and just do their own shit without listening to third parties. happened so many times in the past, especially with riot games. you don't fucking want that to happen
2023-10-17 18:02
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or they just quit like tf2 :')
2023-10-17 22:22
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tf2? what? what's that - valve
2023-10-17 22:47
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#63
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
"most of the pros" meanwhile most of the pros are actually just saying "game suck me no like this this change shit" without any actual feedback. Sure the less popular pros and tier 2 guys are giving actual criticism but very few of the tier 1/most influential pros are just complaining without context. Ropz is the only pro to be extremely vocal about the games state while also taking the time to appreciate what's good about it.
2023-10-17 18:11
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Ur flair's best player saying game is shit lmao
2023-10-17 18:46
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#113
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
and yet 0 constructive criticism from him beyond "this is game shit", proving my point.
2023-10-17 22:13
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#146
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
he's right though, valve knows very well what they need to fix, s1mple's goal is to spread the word about it so that valve does something about the problems in the game, they have more than enough constructive feedback already.
2023-10-18 18:51
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i mean he said they need to stop with unconstructive criticism. Giving negative feedback thats directed at a perceived problem, e.g., snappi saying mr12 offers less tactical depth, would be considered constructive i think
2023-10-17 18:17
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He's not saying 'dont criticize the game hur dur' he's saying instead of saying 'VALVE SUCKS!' just say what you dont like about the game in a constructive way with what you would like to see instead. The devs are people as much as you want to treat them like money grubbing robots.
2023-10-17 18:39
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#98
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China Mahiro
meatriding a multibillion dollar company is wild
2023-10-17 19:53
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+1
2023-10-17 19:05
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lmao how old are you?
2023-10-17 20:45
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#21
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Belarus Azy_421
Average W from Twistzz
2023-10-17 17:29
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#42
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United States Chuffer
+1
2023-10-17 17:53
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#22
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Canada CPO1Tufts
“ That probably goes for a lot of teams, at least us and G2 for sure because we played the Showdown.” FaZe didn’t play in the showdown, I’m confused by this statement.
2023-10-17 17:32
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#70
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United Kingdom wabbledee
"That probably goes for a lot of teams, at least us and G2 for sure because THEY played the Showdown." maybe if u read it properly it would make sense
2023-10-17 18:22
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#142
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
hold your horses, they might have updated the article.
2023-10-18 18:35
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L
2023-10-17 17:36
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#29
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Poland BAN_ANIME
not sure why people write about snappi, i think he made pretty decent criticism and not just "its bad because its bad" or maybe i am missing something
2023-10-17 17:43
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#30
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United States vs3veN
Nothing special, it's just people love to type some random bs and press enter after only reading the title.
2023-10-17 17:46
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#55
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United Kingdom kennyvenom
He’s already been moaning before this in another hltv article.
2023-10-17 18:02
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#59
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Portugal ReyZ555
what snappi said is acceptable but it kinda feels like an excuse when things go wrong he says 12 rounds is not enough to discover what the other team is doing but 15 is? its kinda a bad excuse especially if we think the amount of rounds that teams save or do ecos
2023-10-17 18:08
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#67
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United States xoblivion
I thought he said adjustments are made in rounds 11-12. I took it as there won't be as many chances for the losing team to make adjustments and awesome comebacks.
2023-10-17 18:13
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Of course it bad excuse, because other teams pretty much face the same things. If the other team can adapt better with 12 rounds while he can't, that seems to be an issue on his side more than the game. But obviously, I do agree that the economy needs an immediate fix, it's a mess rn.
2023-10-17 18:14
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#143
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
just because everyone faces the same thing doesn't mean it's a good change, what he said is not relative, it's a fact, if you have 100 rounds to play you have more time to read and adapt to the opponent than if you have 5 rounds. The more rounds you have the better chance you have of adapting. If you think about it, from the 12 rounds, only maybe half of them are actual gun rounds, in CSGO, you could come back after your opponent reaches 15 rounds, that's 3 more rounds to lose before you can adapt and win on OT, that is A LOT in the pro scene.
2023-10-18 18:40
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#106
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ohnePixel | 
Finland osk4r99
I think he explained it good in this video youtube.com/watch?v=mjNLR6BufeE just jump to Ence
2023-10-17 20:40
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No lies detected. >You're gonna be like, "yeah this guy is definitely tagged, like 73 in 3," and then you see you only hit him one time for like 27, blood everywhere. So true the amount of times I said "he's low" only to find out he's not.
2023-10-17 17:49
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#65
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Germany Hustl3
WEll there is a simple trick to avoid such failcalls, by not making them. If you ct and hear a dink you can go for a "low" call but otherwise i would just cut out that he is low and just call the position.
2023-10-17 18:12
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#97
Faceit level 7 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal dracø
+1, it's baffling that people don't understand this. So many times did I see an awper swap to a pistol because of that call and then die after landing 2 body shots cuz he wasn't even trying to aim at head level since "he was low". And then there's those guys screaming "HE'S LOW HE'S LOW" instead of calling his position lol
2023-10-17 19:50
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Well, so many people are just like "i am S1mple" and ofc i hit him 99 in 4 but he didnt die, that so unlucky. Then at the end of the round they see oh only was 26 in 1 wtf? Game is bugged! I grew up with so many ppl that are like that, although they were nice people outside of the server, i couldnt play with them on a regular basis. I mean sure i play the game for fun but also to win and get better and i had a lot of situations just as u described wich costs rounds and makes me mad, at least for that round.
2023-10-17 20:19
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Making the call could be the difference between winning a round and losing one.
2023-10-17 21:24
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#144
Faceit level 4  | 
FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
that doesn't change the fact that the game is not working as expected
2023-10-18 18:42
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Not at all, and i dont like the game either but still i do not understand why ppl that call "low" although they cant be sure. Just makes no nense to me.
2023-10-20 13:49
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#156
Faceit level 4  | 
FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
I think it's a matter of adapting, people were used to it and now they can't rely on the game to behave properly and feel frustrated, sure not calling "low" is a way around that, but it's still frustrating
2023-10-20 15:04
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facts
2023-10-17 18:35
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#50
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Portugal ReyZ555
W Twistzz
2023-10-17 18:00
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Comments getting nuked left and right
2023-10-17 18:02
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#58
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United States Chuffer
lol I saw thst
2023-10-17 18:05
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no one that isn't dickriding cs2 would be playing the game and not constantly complaining about how shit it is
2023-10-17 18:08
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Classic L take from Faze player.
2023-10-17 18:10
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He is shameless. Hes slowly making his way towards one of the most unlikeable players status.
2023-10-17 18:30
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you people are low IQ or something. If your teacher is doing something thats making you not learn, do you call her an idiot and say she should be smarter, or tell her why what they are doing is hindering you from learning? You know, unless you're the guy who screams and mommy and daddy and they just gave you whatever you wanted lmao.
2023-10-17 18:45
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What are you talking about man. Im just tired of him making excuses left and right. Previously it was cs2 and now once its out he has some life difficulties. It gets annoying after a while.
2023-10-17 18:48
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#135
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Europe yommamas
what excuse he even made this time?? :D :D
2023-10-18 11:35
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#159
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Germany Sol1taire
dont think he gives a shit if he's likable or not
2023-10-21 05:27
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I think him and Faze need to be more motivated
2023-10-17 18:32
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because most of you pros have been sitting in front of the computer your whole life and dosnt have social skills and knows how to behave. just look at some pros tweets about orgs, organizers etc. they look like they came from a child(which they kind of did) and compare them to a professional athletes in other sports. Its always a small portion that whine and complain, unfortunately they usually are are the loudest. small dogs bark more
2023-10-17 18:37
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The pros pretty much think about the game from their perspectives. People like Snapi pretty much bring tactical depth, game length, and other stuff that matters to him. But, casual mostly don't care about stuff like that. People just want the game to be playable and smooth, which right now it isn't. Honestly, any type of criticism that pinpoints m12, game economy, meta, etc as the main issue is ignorable by Valve right now. I want them to focus on fixing the sound, mechanical, and macro aspects of the game first, so it can run smoothly.
2023-10-17 18:38
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Twistzz: wahhh this game needs changes, peekers advantage, textures, wahhh plz fix valve Twistzz: pros need to stop calling out the problems in the game, saying this is shit or that is shit, lead by example Typical L take from faze player
2023-10-17 18:40
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#128
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Sweden Vemo
Try actually reading. He’s saying that non-constructive criticism is bad. Like saying “cs2 is shit, unplayable” or “I don’t like it” rather than providing an actual opinion on what makes it bad and what valve should do to improve it
2023-10-18 01:18
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some children were indeed left behind
2023-10-18 02:04
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#136
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Europe yommamas
flag fits the reading comprehension
2023-10-18 11:37
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#139
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Europe mames
read better next time
2023-10-18 11:54
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#82
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Armenia VirtusNo
what did GL do they want to copy on Nuke? cmon spill the beans i need some spicy tech on that map
2023-10-17 18:45
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+1, haven’t seen the match cause time schedule ;(
2023-10-17 22:47
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Just watch the vod, hltv makes it easy
2023-10-17 23:30
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Snax called an upper A split a few times and it was nasty. I recommended watching the game to see it but here's the strat: Throw 2 smokes outside (only need 2 in CS2 compared to 3 in CSGO) to block off the outside player(s). Knowing those 2 smokes are going to be spammed with rifles and/or naded, you don't do the A split yet. You have 2 teammates chilling in T spawn (or one teammate with an extra smoke dropped for him) and you throw the smokes AGAIN. Now the CTs have no nades to blow the smokes up and have less ammo to spam the smokes as well. This is where you actually use the smokes to come into A Main and the others come thru squeak or hut with flashes/util and you crunch the upper site ez.
2023-10-18 04:02
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Massive respect gained. I’m sick of all these players and fans hating non stop. Learn the game or shut up
2023-10-17 18:46
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Massive W Twistzzz
2023-10-17 18:53
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NACS player advocating player professionalism. Wake me up, this must be a dream
2023-10-17 19:01
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based
2023-10-17 19:02
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#160
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Germany Sol1taire
are you actually based in djibouti?
2023-10-21 05:27
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real NA GOAT
2023-10-17 19:23
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The game is shit. Want some constructive criticism? Don't release an unfinished game because you overpromised to release on a specific date. Or rather, be less specific next time. Big yikes
2023-10-17 19:39
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My whole take on this is that if cs2 plan was to fully replace csgo. Cs2 least needed to be on par with csgo or at least 1:1 in terms of mechanics and gameplay and the rest would come. Instead it’s neither of that and got rushed to be released. I really thought they would do an open beta for everyone instead of rushing a full release. Game in its current state is a downgrade and it’s disappointing. If the game isn’t polished don’t rush it. Not to mention valve killed the countless communities that live in csgo lol. Also performance cut in half which is a big loss. Probably gonna have to upgrade my pc just to get a consistent and playable experience on cs2 atm.
2023-10-17 20:20
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Top ppl in CS community with their 4090s are getting 10FPS when a site is covered in 3+ smokes. I m only saying this so that u realize that ur PC is not the problem at all
2023-10-17 23:02
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#100
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Destroyer | 
Other Marauder_
haha stfu. Either you deal with reality or I dont deal with you. No need to sing kumbaya and hug trees pretending everything is fine, its ok to voice the concerns, gets things moving.
2023-10-17 20:03
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lmfao twistzz needs to eat meat hes gone delusional. game is a broken beta
2023-10-17 20:07
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As a pro I would be very frustrated. I’m very frustrated and don’t know how people aren’t on the same boat. The game got rushed to be released and simply wasn’t ready for a full release. The game isn’t even close to being done let alone being ready for competitive play. It’s disappointing and a downgrade from csgo in its current state.
2023-10-17 20:13
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#108
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Russia Topper!
Goat
2023-10-17 20:46
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#109
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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France cedd
I mean this is just regular valve stuff since the 2010s. csgo original release was dogshit too
2023-10-17 21:04
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"guys, stfu, stop trashing the game, if people stop playing and watching CS we won't have a job!" - twistzz
2023-10-17 23:33
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0IQ take ngl
2023-10-17 23:44
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if you don't know that some pros and streamers think like this, you're a naive little dog.
2023-10-18 00:30
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i do believe some players believe that, but it's naive to think they will lose their job when cs:go was in a way worse state and survived. stop overthinking about everything pros say or think.
2023-10-18 11:47
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literally that, ropz and twistzz are 2 valve lickers
2023-10-20 14:06
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leading into shit that is worse than it previous one??? nah ty. its better that some pros stop pretend and call shit as it is
2023-10-18 03:11
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Based Twistzz ultra giga chad.
2023-10-18 07:04
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#137
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Europe yommamas
itt: people not reading past the headline
2023-10-18 11:43
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#140
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Europe mames
"To be honest, I've seen a lot of pros Tweeting and they just say the game is shit, they don't give any details why they think it's bad, or no productive feedback, and that's what hurts the game the most. " For ppl who dont udnerstand because as i can see, there is a lot of them. There is a difference when you just say "its a shit game, fix it" and for example "spray feels weird because there is a desync between input and animations". The first one is just bullshit from r*tards, and the second one is criticism with some feedback.
2023-10-18 12:01
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#148
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Norway Gjellan
Based twistzz
2023-10-19 15:33
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not sure why people write about snappi, i think he made pretty decent criticism and not just "its bad because its bad" or maybe i am missing something
2023-10-19 20:34
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snappi was sincere, twistzz is licking valve
2023-10-20 14:08
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#157
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Brazil gu1zera
No, Russel, you're really wrong. This game is BAD.. REALLY BAD. The pros, the influencers, the community.. they're 100% right to complain about it because if we do, Valve is OBLIGATED to listen to us and update the game, making it BETTER. The way it is rn, it's a TRASH. So stop defending Valve, or else, just STFU Russel.
2023-10-21 01:33
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