FaZe to be acquired by Complexity parent company GameSquare

The acquisition could create a number of potential conflict of interest issues for the two organizations fielding teams in Counter-Strike.


Update 2: ESL has provided the following statement on the matter to HLTV:

"We are aware of the acquisition of FaZe Clan by GameSquare and are examining the potential implications this may have on (their participation in) our tournaments and our business relations. If the outcomes of this review lead to any updates, then we will announce those in due course."


Update: Valve has responded to HLTV's request for comment, confirming the company's stance against any existing conflict of interest in its competitions.

It also stated that it will be required to comply with the rule outlined below at "all ranked events" starting from 2025, when Valve's new rules for running large-scale tournaments go into effect as part of the company's effort to create an open ecosystem.


After facing financial struggles in the aftermath of a disastrous public listing, the company behind the FaZe Clan brand and its various esports teams, including the world's No. 7 Counter-Strike team, has found a way to stay afloat.

Its board has agreed on an acquisition by GameSquare, a Texas-based esports holding backed by the NFL franchise Dallas Cowboys, in a deal that is expected to close before the end of the year.

This was revealed in the two companies' shared announcement on Friday, which also outlined several changes that will see FaZe Clan founders Richard "Banks" Bengtson, Thomas "Temperrr" Oliveira, and Yousef "Apex" Abdelfattah return to leading positions in the brand.

With the move, FaZe will enter into shared ownership with another esports team also on GameSquare's portfolio: Complexity.

This raises a number of potential conflict of interest issues. The two teams regularly compete alongside one another in top Counter-Strike tournaments and are both partnered with ESL and BLAST, the game's two biggest tournament organizers.

ESL currently does not allow one organization to field multiple teams in the same competition, as per section 2.11.3.1 "Multiple teams" of ESL Pro Tour's general rules for Counter-Strike, but it is unclear whether this also applies to separate entities with shared ownership.

It could also become problematic when it comes to the two teams' ability to compete in Counter-Strike Majors and their qualifying events. Valve holds a stance against any shared financial interest in their tournaments, as described in an extract from the official Counter-Strike Major rulebook:

2. Conflicts of Interest

2.1 Teams and players should not have any financial interest in the success of any team that they are competing against. To participate in this Tournament, players and teams are required to affirm that they have no conflict of interest (including any business entanglement such as shared management, shared ownership of entities, licensing, and loans) with any other participating team or its players.

HLTV has reached out to FaZe, Complexity, ESL, BLAST, and Valve for comment.

#1
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mzinho | 
World clipse
wow
2023-10-20 14:50
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#11
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Kazakhstan Antomatic
lul conflicts of interest gonna hit hard, Faze not playing majors anymore cya
2023-10-20 14:53
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22 replies
it’ll be coL getting dropped if they had to choose lmao.
2023-10-20 14:54
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12 replies
#20
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Russia monkasam
+1
2023-10-20 14:55
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#24
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
mzinho | 
World clipse
jason lake will cry
2023-10-20 14:57
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1 reply
Pheeew, with all the Faze financial struggles, I was bit worried by name would become, let's say not up to date. All is saved boys xD
2023-10-20 18:18
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#75
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United States Chuffer
+1, sadly seems both as both teams are showing recent achievement
2023-10-20 15:25
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4 replies
we'll see what happens but even if the realistic option is to let one of the rosters go, realistically every party involved in this will instead go find a way to let both teams exist since both have arguments for not wanting to let their rosters go. coL now has a 20 year long history in the game which is where the org was born from and Jason Lake likely isn't willing to leave. On the other hand, FaZe is a larger brand and not only is their CS team basically their most valuable asset in CS, they've also achieved far more than coL has. And likely want to continue as well. it's a complete mess but it's just the unfortunate truth since it's highly doubtful either is willing to let their rosters go. It could be compared to the CLG acquisition by NRG or Envy to OpTic but this is technically far from it. Nada.
2023-10-20 15:32
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#97
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United States Chuffer
too bad cloud9 isn’t available. But yeah there are plenty of inactive orgs that could take them. Only one way to find out though.
2023-10-20 15:43
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ES did tease a return to cs. Not sure how much they are willing to invest but it could be a good home for complexity.
2023-10-21 14:10
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a lot of the complexity boys used to play for them in the past. will be interesting to see how this goes
2023-10-21 20:22
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Even though FaZe has way less chances at winning lmao
2023-10-20 19:16
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3 replies
Lmao
2023-10-21 00:27
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#253
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Europe dip6o
Aged like idk
2023-10-22 18:36
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1 reply
Time to have them lose everything for the rest of the year just for them to have a run as soon as they're about to go broke
2023-10-22 23:16
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#121
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Twistzz | 
Sweden Stjernkvist
Use the brain you got, its free..
2023-10-20 16:27
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why would faze skip tournaments? they gonna pay massive amount of money so they can sit aside? think
2023-10-20 16:37
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wow you should really switch to NA flag, although even they got it if someone is getting dropped it's CoL, otherwise why would they buy Faze in the first place.
2023-10-20 18:16
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Because they want ropz, basically the only valuable player
2023-10-20 23:24
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4 replies
no
2023-10-20 23:54
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2 replies
I'm the only one that's being unbiased here.
2023-10-21 04:09
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no
2023-10-21 06:11
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Lol?! Everybody on faze is worth more then your and your moms house
2023-10-21 07:55
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Please, conflict of interest has never really been taken seriously in CS and never will. Doesn't even matter if there is explicit rules against it, this game is a joke.
2023-10-20 19:39
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Thanks for your input on the matter, very insightful
2023-10-20 14:53
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#2
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United States Zake_
unlucko for NA if they cant figure it out
2023-10-20 14:51
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#3
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Australia boblao
Noooo
2023-10-20 14:51
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#4
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United States ddown
Conflict of interest galore
2023-10-20 14:51
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All parties in coL and FaZe may attempt to find a loophole that allows both coL and FaZe’s CS teams to exist. Mainly because their teams are basically both of the orgs most valuable assets in esports. They could have GameSquare let go of coL as its parent company and have it directly under Jerry Jones/ The Dallas Cowboys. If that even remotely makes any sense. Just rambling since I can’t see either wanting to drop their teams. And it’ll be coL dropping it if they had to choose due to FaZe’s bigger brand.
2023-10-20 14:54
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Idk if that would work with Valve and ESL. There was much more minor conflicts of interest in the past and it was still problem.
2023-10-20 14:59
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Well both orgs will likely want to keep their CS teams, both are too highly valuable to them. Especially FaZe’s. So they’ll likely want to find a way somehow.
2023-10-20 15:05
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Fallen and Co (iirc mibr at this time) were literally allowed to play against a team they fucking owned in RMR events, all companies involved are morally bankrupt enough to let it happen as long as the backlash is minimal
2023-10-20 15:11
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#72
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Egypt BomberMan_
Well wasnt it like dead’s (mibr’s manager) wife owned that other team or was CEO? Basically the same if the cowboys owned coL and that other entity owned FaZe. We’ll see what happens tho
2023-10-20 15:22
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#78
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United States Chuffer
I know this is a completely different league, but didn’t dazed own or have some sort of interest in netcodeguides? and they obviously played against each other
2023-10-20 15:27
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we all know how that went 💀
2023-10-20 18:32
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#185
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United States Chuffer
lol yeah, but they seemingly were allowed to play against each other. but that was also a long time ago, and probably they made rules because of that lol
2023-10-20 23:47
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#100
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Brazil Necro_Spa
acfually right after they had to literally disband the org (Yeah Gaming) and the team because of conflicts of interest and the backlash of it
2023-10-20 15:49
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5 replies
cause people hate brazil anyways, good ol' murica will be allowed to carry on as usual
2023-10-21 07:18
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#245
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Europe yommamas
Holy copium also, change your flag
2023-10-21 23:59
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3 replies
i'm canadian
2023-10-22 07:12
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2 replies
#257
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Europe yommamas
no you are not, sopa de macaco uma deliciousa
2023-10-23 09:04
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1 reply
What the fuck does that mean
2023-10-23 15:25
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They were allowed to play back then at that one tournament, but were forced to sell them after. Same as the others in similiar situation. Even lurppis, that was in the management of Immortals and shareholder in ENCE was forced to leave Immortals. Or when that company that owned Virtus.pro, SK Gaming and NAVI was forced to sold the teams and they only own VP now. Or when one company owned Heroic, Astralis and BLAST etc. etc.
2023-10-20 16:42
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#184
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United States sziasztok
Yup. Before the match (April 2020), it seemed teams had to only disclose conflicts of interest, not resolve them. And then in June, Valve said they need to resolve it in order to participate. But looking at Yeahs Liquipedia, it seems they all actually left the org in March 2021 when it disbanded. Maybe the didnt leave until later because they were able to smooth talk Valve? Maybe its because neither team was playing in the next RMR event so theres no reason to leave if neither are playing? Maybe its because the Rio Major was fully canceled later, so why leave your owned org in order to play in a Major that isnt happening? idk, Im tired and this is all just surface level research sources: hltv.org/news/29509/mibr-yeah-to-compete.. hltv.org/news/29782/seven-teams-handed-u.. hltv.org/news/29879/yeah-in-talks-with-o.. liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Yeah_Gaming
2023-10-20 23:46
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YeaH i think was the team? And out of curiosity, did Elige have to sell his fraction of a percent of ownership of liquid now that he is playing for coL? So many players own tiny tiny fractions of orgs they used to play for.
2023-10-22 11:08
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#53
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
There is no loophole available, none of the options you provided would resolve the conflict by the Valve rules. Their only option is to either drop one of the teams completely from CS or "choose" which one will play for every event they qualify.
2023-10-20 15:10
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5 replies
considering both orgs's CS teams are basically their most valuable asset in esports, I don't think either are going to be willing to drop their roster. They'll likely definitely attempt to find something that'll allow both teams to exist.
2023-10-20 15:17
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4 replies
#101
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
I agree they will try to find something, but I don't think there's any way out of this, let's see how it pans out. Sure teams are not willing to drop their rosters, but I don't think it's something they have a saying, GameSquare 100% knew about the conflict before setting the deal, so they are aware of the consequences.
2023-10-20 15:49
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yeah we'll see what happens, but I still think all parties involved in this will try to find a way between now and when FaZe's acquisition is complete since even if they probably don't have a saying in this, both orgs still have arguments of not wanting to let their rosters go and will work it out.
2023-10-20 15:53
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2 replies
#105
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
hoping for the best, the pro scene will lose if one of these rosters goes away or gets broken apart, they are looking good at least at the beginning of CS2
2023-10-20 15:56
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ye ofc, It'll obviously take a while but I think we can be confident that the parties involved will find a way, since I like I said, both orgs have arguments of not wanting to let their rosters go.
2023-10-20 15:57
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Exactly they would definitely find a way to let both participate in events. I mean valve and other organizations that hold the events are ones who wrote the rules so obviously they can change it themselves. Money is Everything in this industry so its hard to believe they wouldn’t allow 2 of the biggest orgs/teams in game participate at the same time because of their mutual ownership:)
2023-10-20 15:59
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4 replies
nah, Valve is going to be stern in this. It'll be FaZe and CoL finding a way to make it that they can both exist in CS. With maybe ESL and BLAST somewhat aiding them.
2023-10-20 16:05
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To this day i still believe that Valve paid ESIC to silence the whole cheating accusations about the Heroic incident (technically burn all the evidence for good) Im tryna say that they would do anything to get over with this one too no matter what Legal or illegal, fair or not they would definitely do something about it
2023-10-20 20:34
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You can believe what you want lol. But the fact is that Valve forced Yeah org to disband because it was owned by players of other teams. And there were similiar situations like this, which all ended by either selling the orgs (ESForce, BLAST), or keeping only a single team (Immortals).
2023-10-20 22:57
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Yeah valve will force FaZe or complexity to disband!!!! Also: #107 the 3rd paragraph
2023-10-21 09:20
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Dak Prescott the new IGL for coL and Micah will be the entry PogChamp
2023-10-20 17:29
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#6
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Finland Eestu
Interesting.
2023-10-20 14:51
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Lol
2023-10-20 14:51
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started with the arab takeover of esl and faceit, there will be more stuff like this. soon most of the bigger teams will be owned by the same companies.
2023-10-20 14:52
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1 reply
+1
2023-10-20 16:05
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#9
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Ukraine Patrizio
Means that COL is not playing if they dont fix it.I like both teams so hopefully both will play
2023-10-20 14:52
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#10
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United States 1Tuurtle
if one team's getting dropped it's for sure col. A shame since Jason Lake and the boys are starting to look like an actual top team
2023-10-20 14:52
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14 replies
#23
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United States r0yal56
+1 it’s unfortunate, but as an eagles fan it will be nice cheering for this team without them being backed by the cowboys
2023-10-20 14:56
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13 replies
#29
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United States 1Tuurtle
idk man, really seems like this roster is gonna get dropped and left alone. Maybe an org like 100T comes and buys them, maybe EG buys them (Let's hope not)
2023-10-20 14:58
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12 replies
#37
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United States r0yal56
I pray to god eg leaves this roster alone they just started to do well after signing elige
2023-10-20 15:03
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11 replies
#41
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United States 1Tuurtle
idk, feels like Col is the best NA org that doesnt scam it's players. Maybe M80? Flyquest? but both are major stretches.
2023-10-20 15:04
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10 replies
#56
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United States r0yal56
Col is definitely the best after liquid jumped ship. I think m80 and nouns are good orgs, but nouns has people with questionable pasts
2023-10-20 15:11
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9 replies
Then there is no safe org unless NRG or 100T re-enters CS and buys out coL's roster. Which even then, I don't think Jason Lake wants to exit since CS is where coL was born from. And FaZe likely doesn't want to let go of their CS roster either.
2023-10-20 15:19
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#76
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United States r0yal56
Yeah i doubt Jason lake wants to let this team go since he’s been involved in cs for 20 years. I don’t think buying faze was a good idea, surely cs isn’t the only game that has rules like this .
2023-10-20 15:26
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#153
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United States 1Tuurtle
The big thing to note is that Col actually doesnt have teams in a lot of other games. There are only a couple where Col and Faze overlap.
2023-10-20 17:17
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#155
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United States r0yal56
The only other game I can think of off the top of my head where they overlap is rocket league, but I’m sure there are at least a couple others
2023-10-20 17:21
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#158
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United States 1Tuurtle
According to Liquipedia: Faze and Col are both active in Apex, but Col only has one player signed Both have Fifa teams but no one cares and a couple of Col's players just left Both have Halo and rocket League teams so there's a clear overlap for only those 2 games
2023-10-20 17:25
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#70
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United States MrNorwood
Liquid are a Dutch org anyway, they've just always had an NA CS team.
2023-10-20 15:21
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2 replies
an NL liquid employee told me a majority of their business is based in NA. Not only the old cs roster. source: trust me bro
2023-10-20 15:30
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#108
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United States MrNorwood
They have hosted a lot of NA teams in other esports as well and have offices around the world, so that doesn't surprise me. It's still a Dutch org though, as far as ownership goes.
2023-10-20 15:59
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#152
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United States 1Tuurtle
I dont mean best as in a compeititve standpoint, I mean how the org treats it's players. C9 and EG for example, dont treat players great. 100T idk much about, but Col seems to treat the players really well
2023-10-20 17:17
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Holy shit
2023-10-20 14:53
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#14
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Norway Haaland
And it finally happened
2023-10-20 14:53
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#15
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England naDalous
So basically FaZe and COL can never compete in the same event?
2023-10-20 14:54
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6 replies
unless they find a way or a loophole that allows both teams to exist, then essentially yes. Meaning one of the rosters is getting dropped. And if they were forced to choose, we can kiss coL goodbye.
2023-10-20 14:55
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#25
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Russia monkasam
just make one of them a female team then they can play. like in that qualifier match xd
2023-10-20 14:57
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#87
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United States Chuffer
faze all now identify as female
2023-10-20 15:28
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1 reply
best idea ever, winning every single tournament for next 20 years without even sweating
2023-10-20 16:41
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#92
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Slovakia GloryMole
which one
2023-10-20 15:31
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Ofc it would be col, why buy face and then drop it
2023-10-20 16:06
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#16
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Brazil Nicolito
No way
2023-10-20 14:54
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-midky +goatzerk
2023-10-20 14:54
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4 replies
#156
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United States Klenske
Faze would never lose again
2023-10-20 17:22
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midky? maybe in CSGO but in CS2 is one of a kind awper that can hit shots even with this peekers advantage regularly, even zywoo struggling but he does not
2023-10-21 02:09
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2 replies
It's alright bro we can have different opinions i still love you
2023-10-21 02:17
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1 reply
well, it's not about different opinions, it's about checking the stats... And broky is performing at least equally better than his "clutch" times, just check it p.s. check ur facts before talk, sorry love has nothing to do with this xd
2023-10-21 02:19
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rl preparing the 3 hour video rn
2023-10-20 14:56
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1 reply
Lol
2023-10-20 15:30
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#22
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Canada p1peb0mb
Rip complexity cs or faze cs?
2023-10-20 14:56
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4 replies
if they had to be forced to choose then it’s complexity getting dropped.
2023-10-20 14:59
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Faze has more clouts and fans so zero chance they will be dropped
2023-10-20 15:26
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You really think buying faze and then just drop the team is an option? Ofc it’s col you must be able to figure that out yourself?
2023-10-20 16:08
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i think its very obvious
2023-10-20 16:41
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#26
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India Tekkzera
faze vs col iem sydney grand finals. losing team disbands
2023-10-20 14:58
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4 replies
Or both if neither advances to the final.
2023-10-20 15:01
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#54
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
+1
2023-10-20 15:11
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lmao
2023-10-20 15:29
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rip col
2023-10-22 15:57
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More esports comedy
2023-10-20 14:58
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if i was falcons I’d drop the current roster and buy this one
2023-10-20 15:02
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#35
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India Nujen
The timing OML
2023-10-20 15:02
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F for COL
2023-10-20 15:03
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#39
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Canada kinley377
faze-col sydney final?:O
2023-10-20 15:03
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3 replies
all players banned xD
2023-10-20 15:05
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1 reply
orgs* why ban the players? are they guilty of their management decisions?
2023-10-21 02:11
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haha would be funny
2023-10-20 15:28
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#40
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United Kingdom Revvylo
Surely they wouldn't acquire Faze if it meant they could only have one of Faze and CoL competing in events. Doesn't make sense.
2023-10-20 15:04
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3 replies
they will drop Col
2023-10-20 15:05
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if they were forced to choose, coL’s gone. FaZe has a bigger brand compared to coL. But I think the option is that all parties will find a way to let both teams exist. Especially on FaZe and CoL’s end.
2023-10-20 15:07
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#58
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FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
maybe in ESL and BLAST events, but I'm pretty sure Valve won't allow that.
2023-10-20 15:12
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Same rule which forced heroic to split from astralis. It seems like everyone, including the author of the article, forgot about this.
2023-10-20 15:06
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You must have not read the article.
2023-10-20 15:25
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What are you talking about? Literally 90% of the article was about how fielding the two teams simultaneously would be a conflict of interest.
2023-10-20 16:35
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#47
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Ukraine dench1k
Don't worry, everyone will close eyes on this "small issue". This is eSports after all, where the rules can be changed to suit one's advantage, especially if we talk about "big orgs"
2023-10-20 15:06
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#59
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United States MrNorwood
I would maybe agree if it were just EFG we were talking about, but Valve have taken a hard stance against this in the past and there is no indication that will change. See #46 as an example.
2023-10-20 15:15
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#71
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Ukraine dench1k
I really hope they will force for some actions. Don't want my message above to be truth, tbh
2023-10-20 15:22
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#79
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United States MrNorwood
Yeah, I mean you never really know with Valve, but is in their rulebook as outline in the article, so I image that they would at least expect their major partners to abide by that rule.
2023-10-20 15:27
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Valve will never allowed this kind of thing, remember that a few years ago rfrsh had to sell heroic because they also the owner of astralis at the time
2023-10-20 15:25
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#83
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Ukraine dench1k
I hope so. Also it feels great that Valve decided to get rid of that ESL Elite Club which plays every single tournament. We need more fairness and transparency in the scene.
2023-10-20 15:28
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Volvo rules are anoying about majors, they didn’t left Olof play on the sweedish mix that they have with f0rest, gtr on open qualifiers because he have a contract with faze, doubt they allow CoL and FaZe play the major
2023-10-21 01:39
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#50
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Australia admo
I thought partner teams were irrelevant in cs2 Just 5 dudes and a coach and a clan tag
2023-10-20 15:07
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#61
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United States MrNorwood
Not until 2025 as I recall.
2023-10-20 15:15
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#52
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England fazeclanbestclan
woah jesus christ
2023-10-20 15:09
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#57
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Canada Kupo
These 3 will just destroy FaZe again this isn't 2010 lol fuckin morons. I'd fire them all and just take full control so this disaster doesn't happen again.
2023-10-20 15:12
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#60
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Canada Eviljonbob
BTW hltv, GameSquare the parent company to Complexity is based out of Toronto Canada, not Texas.
2023-10-20 15:15
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#62
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United States Gnashier
Big mistake, FaZe is going to pull OpTic Gaming.
2023-10-20 15:16
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You would imagine CoL would keep current Faze roster and sell current roster...
2023-10-20 15:16
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#86
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United States MrNorwood
I don't know, I prefer the Complexity brand myself, but the general consensus here seems to be that the FaZe brand is bigger and should be kept.
2023-10-20 15:28
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#67
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Portugal dracø
Faze lineup under CoL or are they turning a blind eye and ignore conflicts of interest??
2023-10-20 15:20
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#68
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
SpawN | 
Australia sini_
Richard Lewis gonna have a field day on this
2023-10-20 15:20
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2 replies
#120
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Lmao, you beat me to it
2023-10-20 16:21
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Nah, China and the Saudis aren't involved so it's fine.
2023-10-20 17:20
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matchfixing incoming
2023-10-20 15:21
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1 reply
oh, that never happened, oh
2023-10-21 02:14
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please dont drop one of them :(
2023-10-20 15:27
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#81
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Armenia VirtusNo
oh damn i am so conflicted
2023-10-20 15:27
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2 replies
#115
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Australia Beard43
Interesting
2023-10-20 16:13
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1 reply
#118
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Armenia VirtusNo
im shivering in me tinders
2023-10-20 16:18
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Alright time to merge col and faze +ropz +rain +karrigan +Twistzz +broky EliGE to coach ez 5 majors
2023-10-20 15:28
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1 reply
ngl this merge made me laugh out loud hahaha
2023-10-20 20:55
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ok
2023-10-20 15:33
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Conflict of interest is definitely the name of the game here There is 3 options realistically: - Drop the Complexity roster and quit CS - Drop the FaZe roster and quit CS (focus on content creation which is why FaZe are so famous to begin with) - Drop the Complexity roster and move FaZe players to that brand Either way one of the 2 orgs will have to stop operating within CS because I do not think they can co-exist belonging to the same parent company
2023-10-20 15:34
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#96
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NEO | 
Poland ScR1337
elige owns some share from liquid, does it count?
2023-10-20 15:37
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3 replies
I think he sold them now.
2023-10-20 15:46
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2 replies
#104
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NEO | 
Poland ScR1337
just purely in theory even if you own 1share you are co-owner so "shared ownership of entities" applies but it would be stupid TBH. But in other hand wheres the border? You can have less that 1%? 5%?
2023-10-20 15:55
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that would be dumb af, I don't think that happened in reality
2023-10-21 02:16
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#99
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Czech Republic Semi96
curious how are they going to resolve the conflict of interest
2023-10-20 15:48
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complexity disband?
2023-10-20 15:50
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EZ -rain -broky +elige +hallzerk if you ask me
2023-10-20 16:07
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4 replies
dropping rain would be so devastating so just consider it sounds dumb af
2023-10-21 02:17
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If anything it will be -rain -karrigan +elige +floppy
2023-10-21 19:53
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2 replies
who igl and consistent awp?
2023-10-22 17:31
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1 reply
Everything is in my #243 except for AWP but you cant ask such a stupid question when you put BOT hallzerk in 1st place
2023-10-22 18:26
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#114
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
2023-10-20 16:10
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2 replies
who car bout this clown
2023-10-20 16:14
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Richard Lewis you can create another alt account as this one is exposed already
2023-10-21 02:25
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Col becomes Faze Academy lmao
2023-10-20 16:13
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i was here
2023-10-20 16:19
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fortnite Ninja is CIO at the company
2023-10-20 16:33
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#124
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil hugoooo
Just sell coL lineup to another org, perfect timing considering they are playing better than ever
2023-10-20 16:33
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+buy FaZe -sell Complexity
2023-10-20 16:37
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Well, col is dogshit anyway, so why keep them?
2023-10-20 16:38
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2 replies
Semi finalists at Sydney == Dogshit??
2023-10-21 06:39
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1 reply
cs2 + half the teams attending are tier2
2023-10-21 08:29
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Well, it's early to think what will happen, but as a fan of Complexity, it would really suck if they drop their cs team in favour of mantaining Faze's. I mean it makes more sense considering the actual level of the teams, but still...
2023-10-20 16:41
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faze 10 man roster?? or maybe combine and get twistzz and elige back together! :D
2023-10-20 16:42
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#139
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Sweden cslipo
How does that work? How can the same people own 2 teams with the chance of them going up against eachother? Btw this could be the grand final
2023-10-20 16:48
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imagine if FaZe CoL grand final... whoever wins the parent company wins anway
2023-10-20 16:46
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2 replies
It is a decisive decision, as well as life and death.
2023-10-21 11:20
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Yeah, imagine… kekw
2023-10-21 12:12
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They should both be allowed to compete in the same tournaments, the conflict of interest rules are pointless. As long as: 1. The conflict is known/disclosed (done) 2. They have separate management teams independent of each other (done) 3. Nothing dodgy happens What do people honestly think is going to happen? If there are any throws it will be super obvious since everyone knows of the association between the teams, and it's not like that cant happen between teams that arent co-owned anyway. The same owners owning multiple teams that compete against each other is pretty common in the sports world (yes I know UEFA dont allow it in continental club competitions but it happens in other football competitions and in many other sports).
2023-10-20 16:51
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2 replies
Is this bait?
2023-10-20 17:23
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3. Nothing dodgy happens, how do you measure this? can you tell me? like actual wtf means dodgy to u, the audience and the ones to judge
2023-10-21 02:23
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#146
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United States GiantDays
elige and twistzz coworkers once more lets go
2023-10-20 16:53
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RIP Complexity roster
2023-10-20 17:08
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RIP COL on majors. Or maybe FaZeplexity: hallzerk ELiGE Karrigan Twistzz ropz
2023-10-20 17:12
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1 reply
I'm really surprised that when broky is performing his best in 1.5 years most of u say hallzerk when he literally has 0 majors/prizes and no chemistry with the main faze team, I suppose this forum is full of 12 years old with no knowledge about what a team is and that we're not in CSGO anymore also dropping rain is the worst decision u can make as he's the only player that was always in the team and missed literally 6 matches in like 10 years??
2023-10-21 02:22
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I thought col was owned by the cowboys?
2023-10-20 17:36
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1 reply
GameSquare became coL’s parent company in 2021 which Jason Lake is their head of esports in the company.
2023-10-20 17:56
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#162
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Finland Tusku
Damn, just as col was actually finding consistency
2023-10-20 17:42
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I am sure the creative US lawyers will find a way to make it work through some dodgy tax haven ....
2023-10-20 18:29
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1 reply
All hail the corrupt corporate elitists!
2023-10-20 20:30
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Damn unfortunate timing when col is finally looking good
2023-10-20 19:14
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#178
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United States 2046
If Jason Lake is pushed out of fielding a cs team for coL, don’t think I can support cs esports anymore. This dude has been in the scene since 1.6 and cares A LOT. It would be a massive mistake to pick the company run by moronic crypto scamming teenagers over a bastion of the cs scene. Whatever lines their pockets I guess
2023-10-20 19:52
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Faze so poor, Complexity so rich. hahahaha
2023-10-21 00:20
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#189
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
GuardiaN | 
Other Darge
I guess they would sell Col to someone else since dropping its CS team is like dropping the org, Faze is obviously the bigger brand and Col was born on CS. Unless they keep Col for CS and Faze for everything else, but it doesn't make much sense.
2023-10-21 00:35
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#190
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United Kingdom ShiftDot
Investors digging Faze out of the dumpsterfire they are in once again...
2023-10-21 00:52
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Nothing is going to happen and anyone who thinks it will it's just plain stupid. The only thing that may happen in the future is that the parent company decides to dismiss CoL org, but it's not something that will happen in the near future.
2023-10-21 01:48
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#194
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Brazil isbetter
NA FaZe is real
2023-10-21 01:58
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I can see FaZe's lineup being signed by some other organization soon.
2023-10-21 02:10
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CoL has longer history since CS1.6 while FaZe is more famous in CSGO. How hard it is to choose which linage to inherit. Maybe Faze, as currect CoL lineage is from ATK-flashpoint C9-Extra Salt. whoever would leave, EliGe must stay.
2023-10-21 03:20
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3 replies
CoL might b legendary org in cs but they have no clout beyond that unlike faze which is known in almost every esport like PUBG, R6, CS
2023-10-21 04:32
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1 reply
while in other case, col might only wanna buy Faze's berth in other esports league, mostly COD, it's the event Faze started with. Remember Optic disbanded as Immortal bought Optic for its LCS berth.
2023-10-21 04:39
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col has the NA market tho while faze cs is just another cs team
2023-10-21 06:43
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Deep
2023-10-21 04:25
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R.I.P. COMPLEXITY?.
2023-10-21 05:04
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#225
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United Kingdom Leftie
Current FaZe & CoL are pretty decent. I hope whichever is cut finds a good home.
2023-10-21 09:14
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that sucks, i don't want to lose Col right as they're finally looking ok
2023-10-21 09:33
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Faze and coL are too big to choose only one of the two to exist, they will make sure that either the rules change or they will find a workaround just like david beckham is doing with inter miami
2023-10-21 10:31
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GAMESQUARE will get IEM sydney 2023 anyways lol
2023-10-21 12:08
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1 reply
not really as they didn't buy faze yet, if faze wins then its not their tournament
2023-10-21 13:45
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well
2023-10-21 12:17
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Winner of the tournament gets to keep their jobs
2023-10-21 12:46
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1 reply
#237
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Russia Topper!
XD
2023-10-21 17:05
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#238
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Russia Topper!
Time to sell complexity
2023-10-21 17:06
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Even if coL lose tomorrow, they're gonna own FaZe either way.
2023-10-21 17:08
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Don't worry, everyone will close eyes on this "small issue". This is eSports after all, where the rules can be changed to suit one's advantage, especially if we talk about "big orgs"
2023-10-21 17:34
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one of the rosters is gonna get shided on for sure then, very unlucky for the players
2023-10-21 18:09
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complexity disband nt
2023-10-22 13:19
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#254
Faceit level 4  | 
Canada Kupo
Strictly a business move, & if any of you knew how to read, then you would know it states that there shall be no financial interest between the 2 teams. So CoL doesn't own FaZe & vice versa. Neither roster will disband & they will not fuse.
2023-10-22 19:02
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#255
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark oog
Maybe they will let the teams attend every second tournament
2023-10-22 19:36
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FaZeLeXity inc.
2023-10-23 09:51
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lol
2023-10-23 20:35
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#261
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Brazil caicolass
LOL
2023-10-23 21:18
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I hope this doesn't jeapordize coL's participation in tournaments. "Jake" has poured his heart and soul into this brand and they've been my favorite team since like 2004 ion gamers tournament. DirecTV tried to kill coL and now this...
2023-11-02 17:30
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