Valve: "Launching when we did was the fastest way to get CS2 to where we all want it to be"

Counter-Strike's developers explained some of their thought processes in a rare interview.

Counter-Strike 2 developers Valve Software have given pcgamer.com an interview in which they detail the thinking behind the transition away from CS:GO. While the interview didn't touch on much from the competitive side of the game, it shed light on the early release, subtick, and a tease of the possibility of adding a new weapon.

"We know there's a conversation about whether the Limited Test should have been longer," the developers said. "Without everyone playing the same game, we couldn't make much progress on the most critical systems like networking, performance, and core gameplay," they explained, pointing to the CS2 Limited Test player base shrinking as time went on.

"Launching the game has massively accelerated the pace of improving CS2, so we think that launching when we did was the right time, even if the landing was (and still is) bumpy. Ultimately, this is the fastest way to get CS2 to where we all want it to be one or five or ten years from now."

The launch has not been without controversy, and the game has attracted criticism from professionals as tenured as Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev and Ilya "⁠Perfecto⁠" Zalutskiy.

s1mple has taken a break from competitive play after criticising CS2

The sub-tick system in particular has come under fire, one that Valve has defended and said is "mostly working as intended."

"The goal of sub-tick is to give everyone a consistent, tick-independent experience that's better than CS:GO's 64 or 128 tick experience. For the most part the system works as intended, but as we rolled out the feature to more and more people we got feedback about systems that weren't reaching their goals."

The system gives Valve more control — in CS:GO, things like spray patterns and jump-throwing grenades gave different outputs based on tick rate. In CS2, spray patterns look slightly smaller than 64-tick CS:GO but Valve say "are roughly the size" you see in 128-tick GO.

From a more casual point of view, criticism has also been leveled at the lack of content on launch. There has been no operation, while more laid-back game modes like retakes and surf require connecting to a community server without there being a browser in-game.

The explanation for this is is that "all game modes fundamentally depend on solid core gameplay," they say. "In the short term we have been keeping our development focused on the spaces where players spend the overwhelming amount of their collective time." Valve still have plans to re-introduce popular game modes and to explore others.

New weapons are also on the table — but Valve say they have learned their lesson from the release of the overpowered R8 revolver in the winter of 2015.

"It's not the top priority at the moment, but we absolutely plan to introduce some new weapons for CS2. We'll typically look at cases where players either don't have the right tools to approach a situation or have only one or two tools available. Where is the gameplay getting stale? What kind of weapon might shake up the status quo?

"Among the many things we learned from the R8 was to be more careful in shipping new (or major changes to) weapons, to let players put them through their paces before making them available everywhere."

The journey all new Counter-Strike maps go on is an example of Valve's philosophy of prioritizing early release with an eye on future changes. "No matter how much internal testing we do with our maps, we can never match the feedback we get from millions of players throwing millions of smokes or jumping on every conceivable surface."

It is clear that Counter-Strike 2 is a work in progress, but the transition to a new engine was the inevitable solution to future-proofing the game.

"Better tools were the foundation of Source 2, and those tools are now available to every artist in the Counter-Strike community. The tools don't get a lot of headlines, but they're the key to all of the community content that will shape CS2 in the years to come.

"Just as CS:GO's final form was the culmination of a decade of experiments, CS2's future isn't set in stone. We don't have a specific vision that we're trying to realize, but rather a process we want to continue to execute for many years. We'll continue to explore all of the opportunities that come with the game and do the hard work necessary to make CS2 the place every FPS fan wants to be."

Russia Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
882
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.60
Ukraine Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.24
Maps played:
1723
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.63
#1
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland BIGGEST_DONK_FAN
ok
2023-10-27 23:26
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Giving access to everyone and starting pro play asap was the fastest way of improving the game, good decision
2023-10-27 23:27
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29 replies
When are they going to start improving?
2023-10-28 00:04
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27 replies
The game is decent imo
2023-10-28 00:05
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16 replies
It’s not bad but it’s not good and in its current state is a downgrade from csgo. The game was rushed and wasn’t ready and they fucked up by giving themselves a deadline they couldn’t live up to.
2023-10-28 00:23
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#209
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Latvia MikeOHearnNo1
But if they hadn't given a deadline they 'wouldn't' live up to, the game would have been released later with still a large number of bugs because many people didnt have access to the game to find these bugs. "We can never match the feedback we get from millions of players throwing millions of smokes or jumping on every conceivable surface"
2023-10-28 07:43
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6 replies
U can always choose the option of keeping both the games alive and keep CS2 as an early access game instead of making it the only official server playable game
2023-10-28 15:59
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#266
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden F03BIA
Did you even read what they said? seems like you didnt.
2023-10-28 16:08
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FTP early access game named CS2 will have "millions of players jumping on very conceivable surface" coz everyone was asking Valve to do it. Doesn't matter if u still have CSGO officials, they would have still played CS2 as well. But playing a broken game bcoz thats the only option will make sure that they lose the player base tbh
2023-10-28 16:15
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#270
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden F03BIA
Try reading instead of skimming through it, im sure you will be able to find an explanation for why they decided not to keep csgo going at the same time. Doing that makes more sense than vitriolicly criticising because screeching is the only response you can manage.
2023-10-28 16:18
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No one is screeching I believe mate as most have decided to just not play it at all. And hence my point "Losing player base". "Without everyone playing the same game, we couldn't make much progress on the most critical systems like networking, performance, and core gameplay," they explained Yeah makes sense, but if u start to lose player becoz they had rather play something else than what u r asking them to play, then its a huge problem. If they come up with a solution to problems such as peeker's advantage or ridiculous XM ranged kills then I do believe their decision was good, but its been over a month now with the CS2 launch and it doesn't feel like they are working on those major issues at all.
2023-10-28 16:24
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Acting like those people wouldn't come crawling back anyway.
2023-10-28 16:21
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- Hit-Reg is still shit. So often the shots don´t connect. - Cheaters in almost every game. They become more blatant every day, because nothing happens to them. - Valve even still disabled demo recording of MM´s. I guess they got that from Valorant. If you don´t see the demos, you can´t say for sure how many people are cheating. - The tracers on the weapons should be removed. They don´t match the spray at all and are just disturbing. - Still not kz and surf. This was a core part of Counter-Strike since CS 1.0 and many people miss it. Those are the most major issues they should fix.
2023-10-28 00:43
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#229
Faceit level 9  | 
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Belgium MielooK
Hit reg is fine, skill issue Not seen a single cheater in like 80 games You're right about demo's You're right about tracers You're right about kz and surf
2023-10-28 12:25
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hit reg is an issue, if you don't see it is doesn't mean its not an issue. Stop giving them more reasons not to fix it. Neither Dying behind a wall nor killing someone behind a wall feels good imho. AWP flicks are non existent now even when those tracers does show the bullet going right through the enemy. Not just flicks even normal shots can be seen going through the enemy but not killing them at all. Stop giving them excuses to not fix Hit-Reg
2023-10-28 16:03
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nah bro hit reg is an issue , i watched some streams and clean shots were missed due to hit reg but the rest yeah i agree
2023-10-29 15:57
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"decent" for a multi billion dollar company is not good enough especially when you replace a perfectly fine game.
2023-10-28 10:53
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+1
2023-10-28 14:31
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#261
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Spain yowyOw
We went from begging Valve to improve the best FPS game ever, CSGO, in terms of anti-cheat, servers, rankings, map rotation, etc.. to settling for a full release of a “decent” game that is nowhere near where it should be because it’s.. prettier?! Or is it because it’s better to be complacent? The very least Valve can do is acknowledge the very obvious flaws of their game despite their best intentions, and let us know that they are working to either fix it or overhaul it. What’s wrong with a valid criticism, especially when the corporation is not responding to its client-base feedback? Never change, HLTV community..
2023-10-28 15:30
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#320
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Finland NooPelo
Tbh I cant go back to CSGO because of the smokes alone. Massive upgrade that I am already accustomed to and feels crazy its not always been like now.
2023-10-29 12:09
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every week
2023-10-28 06:30
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#217
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Israel selukvey
game is better than it was a month ago so they already started.
2023-10-28 11:08
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What actually got better in that month... or since March? The 64 tick, movement, subtick, irrelevant shit nobody complained about, or stuff that should have been sorted by VALVE's map checking team before they even released closed beta? For me the game is way worse than it was in March, can't even play it anymore because most of the playerbase are just cheaters. They removed community servers, KZ and surf. Not sure what game are you playing. When ropz gave an interview, game was playable (dogshit). Now it is not even playable. Not to mention how awful it feels to play vs high elo faceit players if my ping is above 30.
2023-10-28 11:20
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#220
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Israel selukvey
FPS got better, tons of game breaking bugs fixed, movement and this rubberbanding got slightly better stop crying and hating. also most of the community complains about sub-tick and movement daily wdym? cheaters were in CSGO aswell same as in CS2, that's why pro players play on FACEIT.
2023-10-28 11:30
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Stop crying? How about you stop dickriding valve? Game is still fucking shit, game breaking bugs were supposed to get fixed in closed beta, not on full release. They still couldn't even fix this, after like a week of ppl using it even in faceit leagues. clips.twitch.tv/GracefulApatheticPastaPe.. Movement did not get better, there's still huge peeker's advatange and game is unplayable on 40+ ping. VALVE made faceit worse cuz they hard coded 64 tick, they arent doing shit that's useful. Cant even add cl bob, righthand and cleardecals, something ppl have been asking for under every twitter post. Yeh dude, -16 % playerbase cuz game is good and people should stop complaining.
2023-10-28 12:15
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#251
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Israel selukvey
I never said game was good or people should stop complaining, I said you should stop crying and instead help valve fix the game you like. crying here on HLTV or twitter without reporting those bugs to valve won't do shit. all I said is that game improved from a month ago even if its by a tiny 5% it did improve. I am not dickriding valve, I do believe they released it prematurely, but I compared to you, send bugs if I find any and not crying about it on forums and twitter. haven't matched versus someone who used the bug you provided but it is there for a while now (over a week).. people who abuse it on faceit probably get banned.
2023-10-28 14:17
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#262
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Finland ristonen
+1
2023-10-28 15:45
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I have sent them multiple bugs and it feels like its not getting better. There are countless number of spots on maps such as vertigo where bomb just gets stuck in walls and u can't pick it up at all. They are not fixing that instead they are removing Mirage self boost and then adding it back in within 2 updates. I dont understand the working of anything relatable to this. As far as gameplay is concerned, U cant play DM as every possible human is running around with SMGs and shotguns. Shotguns can 1 shot ppl at any possible range currently while being a completely nuisance becoz of the run and gun potential in the game. Not to mention the peeker's advantage + shotgun is broken af. Using proper guns is not fun and the game overall is not fun
2023-10-28 16:12
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no way over 50% of the community are "cheaters", you're just malding
2023-10-28 16:08
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When devs will finish playing Dark Souls
2023-10-28 22:09
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they had no choice cause of the copenhagen major lol, if it wasn't for that they could've kept csgo and delayed the release date of cs2 (keeping the limited test)
2023-10-28 01:07
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It's better for Valve, yes. Because they want a big open BETA for their playerbase to help test it and make it better. Launching it early was good for VALVE. Terrible for the playerbase.
2023-10-27 23:27
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playerbase gonna be fine. Only pussies cry
2023-10-27 23:28
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16 replies
I see no reason to cry, as I'm simply not playing the game. Doesn't mean that I will respect Valve and their decision to release it way too early and completely replace CSGO.
2023-10-27 23:29
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12 replies
literally crying about it replacing csgo
2023-10-27 23:41
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4 replies
0/8
2023-10-27 23:45
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2 replies
another cry post :P
2023-10-28 13:30
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1 reply
0/8
2023-10-28 16:58
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+1
2023-10-28 13:30
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+1
2023-10-28 00:04
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cope, seethe, dilate
2023-10-28 03:20
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3 replies
2023-10-28 03:39
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2 replies
Bro thought he was humorous
2023-10-28 03:41
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1 reply
why are you projecting so much lil bro
2023-10-28 03:42
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cs2 is good your computer just sucks lmao, cry is free
2023-10-31 11:25
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1 reply
2023-10-31 17:27
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+1
2023-10-27 23:46
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only pussies defend valve no matter what
2023-10-28 00:03
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+1
2023-10-28 09:28
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This is the approach that made them into what they are now. Testing, testing, and testing. In the end, the more issues we identify today, the better the game will be tomorrow
2023-10-27 23:35
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Testing is absolutely fine. If it was an open beta that anyone could join, I'm sure they would have plenty of volunteers. People were already desperate to get access to the closed beta. Replacing CSGO entirely and forcing people to be testers is a completely different reality.
2023-10-27 23:37
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I do agree that forcing people to play cs2 wasn't exactly the best move. But the I also see the logic behind this: the data you get from volunteers can be misleading, especially, if the sample size is much smaller
2023-10-27 23:49
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Which brings you to the only point that I made. Good for Valve, terrible for the playerbase.
2023-10-27 23:55
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1 reply
+1
2023-10-28 16:18
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+1
2023-10-27 23:38
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#90
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Germany Rusty_
It's literally good for the playerbase, cs is a game that needs excessive community feedback to find out all the small little details and optimizations. Considering they've written this from scratch in source 2 its feels pretty good already. Maybe you remember csgo beta and release, was worse than this.
2023-10-28 00:04
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You can get plenty of feedback in an open beta. That's their entire point. If anything, Valve would have vastly more feedback than many other games in open beta.
2023-10-28 00:46
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1 reply
That is true, but i still think them doing this is still fine with the state of the game
2023-10-28 01:45
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#218
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Israel selukvey
honestly the only playerbase that really suffers from this release is casual one who played KZ/SURF and other non-competitive modes.
2023-10-28 11:10
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5 replies
I'd hardly call those casuals.
2023-10-28 16:57
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#288
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Israel selukvey
casuals are people who play for fun some modes like retakes, jail break and etc and don't care about skins or competitive scene. that's my opinion casuals definition can be different to you. ofcourse there are tryhards in surf and kz and etc but I mean in general terms.
2023-10-28 18:23
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I'd disagree. Casuals are ones that are playing on a very fundemental basis, and doesn't really interact, or go in depth, with the community around them. Even the fact that you're writing here on HLTV makes you less of a casual, because you take an extra step to write about the game, which the average player wouldn't. KZ/Surf are usually the type that have, or tries, mastering the movement and dynamics in the game. They are quite far from what I'd consider casuals, and the ones that I personally know also had a fairly high elo on faceit. A random casual player has no idea what kreedz and surf even is.
2023-10-28 18:32
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#290
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Israel selukvey
as I said, I won't disagree with your definition but in my opinion as a competitive enjoyer and follower since like 2007-8 anybody who doesn't follow the game competitive scene are casuals in my eyes. maybe casuals isn't the word I was looking for idk, but I hope you get me. again, casuals in my eyes doesn't mean he is bad in game or a "newbie".
2023-10-28 18:58
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Well, yeah.. as you say yourself, a non-competitive player. I don't think they are mutually exclusive, though. Casual players, at least from the eyes of the developer, are ones that don't engage at all. They just open the game, click play Valve's servers and close the game.
2023-10-28 19:06
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just dont put out a release date if the game isnt fkn ready. How hard is that to understand
2023-10-27 23:27
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16 replies
acting like its completely unplayable.
2023-10-27 23:30
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15 replies
The game is clearly rushed. It's "playable" but bad and dissapointing
2023-10-27 23:31
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5 replies
what we have is good imo, but it's just that there are a lot of stuff we don't have
2023-10-28 00:39
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4 replies
it is NOT good, maybe it's good for n00bs but certainly not for CS aficionados .. and it's also certainly not ready for competitive play: youtube.com/watch?v=vPEWxsTT6gY
2023-10-28 01:25
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It's not even close to good and only the most pathetic valve fanboys say it is. It is in a terrible state. Every patch introduces more bugs. They have not fixed any of the biggest issues aka dogshit subtick peekers advantage etc. The economy is still screwed. Running accuracy is still insane. Scouts are completely accurate while running when scoped in. Try it. Valve is a dogshit dev that would never treat dota like it's treating cs. Only the biggest losers defend them. They are only relevant because of games they purchased from better devs and the shitty drm that is steam.
2023-10-28 21:05
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2 replies
Stop taking weed bro
2023-10-29 07:28
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100% true
2023-10-29 16:35
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I dont know what game you are playing but cs2 on this day is dogsh*t
2023-10-27 23:38
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6 replies
+1
2023-10-28 01:05
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#174
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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France pheno71
+1
2023-10-28 03:07
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#190
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Australia Beard43
+1
2023-10-28 04:11
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+1
2023-10-28 13:42
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+1
2023-10-28 16:35
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+1
2023-10-29 16:06
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#74
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United States Jakkkk
I for one can't play several gamemodes I could before they rushed this pile of crap out. So yes, parts of it are literally unplayable.
2023-10-27 23:51
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#221
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Czech Republic JakamanCZ
Parts of a new game that don´t exist are literally uplayable. - average HLTV enjoyer
2023-10-28 11:47
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Valve said that everything is fine, therefore everything is fine.
2023-10-27 23:27
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5 replies
#31
Faceit level 10  | 
Italy Ote||o
You cannot cheat on VAC secured servers
2023-10-27 23:35
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4 replies
#50
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Georgia pandorra
you cannot bait on Jonathan E secured servers
2023-10-27 23:40
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2 replies
what is baiting
2023-10-27 23:58
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1 reply
[ Removed by Jonathan E ]
2023-10-28 00:10
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You can only shoot what you see
2023-10-28 16:36
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anticheat where
2023-10-27 23:28
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1 reply
+1
2023-10-27 23:39
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>We absolutely plan to introduce some new weapons for CS2 I shall continue to assert that Valve needs to add an alternative to the AK-47. Like an A1-S for the T side. Like maybe the AS VAL or AK-74. Better recoil and accuracy but no 1 shot headshot.
2023-10-27 23:29
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19 replies
galil..
2023-10-27 23:30
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8 replies
galil is famas equivalent
2023-10-27 23:42
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7 replies
it's an ak with better recoil and accuracy but no 1 shot headshot, but it's still garbage because on T side 1 shot HS matters so much. Even if T's had m4 for $2200 no one would use it
2023-10-28 00:00
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6 replies
"better recoil" god this is why i dont argue with hltv silvers
2023-10-28 01:32
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5 replies
>calls others silvers >doesn't know how to use galil give me a break
2023-10-28 02:12
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4 replies
i know how to use galil, its thinking the ak is worse than it is why im calling you a silver you bot
2023-10-28 02:14
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3 replies
if galil had the same damage as the ak, it would be objectively the better gun :P regards
2023-10-28 02:17
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1 reply
The one shot headshot is what makes it so good. If you're good, it reduces the TTK to literally 0. That's literally the entire selling point of the AK. That's why it will always be better than the Galil regardless - because it rewards good aim and you are able to win every single fight with it if you're good enough.
2023-10-28 02:47
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#244
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Wales Hi_Im_New
That's not what he said?
2023-10-28 13:53
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Maybe something like the guardian from Valorant
2023-10-27 23:33
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#167
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Slovakia sniks
+1
2023-10-28 02:42
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Spraying while running is more accurate than ever in CS2. If anything, we need less accuracy. At least in the department.
2023-10-27 23:34
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5 replies
then maybe something like the Guardian in VALORANT.
2023-10-27 23:37
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4 replies
I have no idea what that is, but sure. I just hate the fact that now even rifles are accurate while running. It used to be only SMGs, which was also a problem.. at least for me. The game is completely dumbed down. Exactly like at the release of CSGO, strafe shooting is now extremely viable. They fixed that in CS:GO.
2023-10-27 23:40
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In a nutshell, it's basically a scoped semi-automatic rifle that can 2-3 shot at the body. But has a low firing rate as a drawback. real life equivalent is the FN FAL or M39 I believe. The gun is basically perfect for those that can aim.
2023-10-27 23:50
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TBH they should just turn the autosnipers into guardians, then people would actually use them
2023-10-28 00:32
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1 reply
nope. autosnipers are good cs meta just hasn't developed far enough to properly include them.
2023-10-28 02:01
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SKS or M14 is the way to go, 3 body shot kill but only semi-auto, 1 shot kill to the head like AK (there's already galil for those who want a ct rifle "equivalent")
2023-10-27 23:35
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#233
Faceit level 10  | 
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Serbia nnikolaS
I'd like to see a bolt action weapon with no scope, I was always a massive fan of the winchester in pubg before they added scopes to it make it like an upgraded deagle $1000-$1200, 1 shot to the head, 60dmg to the body, scout type bolt reload in between shots, 5 bullet mag, good mobility
2023-10-28 12:39
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xD
2023-10-27 23:29
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Valve does answer a series of the community's biggest concerns about the game, but they basically answer by saying, "This is what we wanted the game to be, deal with it."
2023-10-27 23:29
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1 reply
+1
2023-10-28 00:01
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haters gonna hate.
2023-10-27 23:29
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so we are basically still in public beta
2023-10-27 23:30
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3 replies
+1
2023-10-27 23:39
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yes but shhhhh
2023-10-28 00:41
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+1
2023-10-28 01:06
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#17
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Romania Nickname90
seems they are still unaware of what community needs/wants.
2023-10-27 23:30
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3 replies
+10000
2023-10-27 23:40
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+1
2023-10-27 23:43
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+1
2023-10-28 01:06
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ok when cs2 ? real version without subtick ofc and dog hitreg
2023-10-27 23:31
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i feel like they didnt say anything new in this interview. We knew that they released earlier to force us all to test and fix the game faster, we knew that arms race and DZ are coming in the near future, we knew that source2 makes fixing and adding easier/faster...
2023-10-27 23:31
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Kinda funny that they even have to come out and say these self-evident things because of a sperging playerbase(or at least a minority), that no doubt will still construe their own meaning between the lines once again.
2023-10-27 23:32
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4 replies
+10000
2023-10-27 23:34
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#75
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United States Jakkkk
"the game is broken and we know that but it's ok because that's how we wanted it" then you get geniuses like this praising valve for releasing an unfinished product and forcing everyone to remove the old, good one
2023-10-27 23:54
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People have been asking for Source 2 for years already. This thing has been in the pipeline for a long time and everyone should have known that the start will be rough. That's why Valve even canceled the second major this year, to have ample time to work on the game. At some point you just have to rip off the band-aid. It may hurt a lot, but it's the best way forward all things considered. If you truly think that Valve wants the game to be shit forever and ruin everything for you and the community, why even bother at all? Go play Valorant or whatever.
2023-10-28 00:08
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Man it's pathetic. Valve have had so much time to make a proper product, they even have the blueprint to copy important bits and pieces from yet they create a disaster of a game where all the fundamentals are fucked. I expected a better game than CS:GO and not a rough version with loads of features missing. Did you see this: youtube.com/watch?v=vPEWxsTT6gY
2023-10-28 01:54
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v0vl0 supplied the qs as well as the pre construed responses, read the full interview, staged, unorganic and generally lame. Should kick the team and hire some people who actually play the game at a high level to give direction rather than the clueless devs who I will bet cannot even do bunny hops.
2023-10-27 23:32
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1 reply
+1
2023-10-27 23:41
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Bump
2023-10-27 23:34
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“The goal of sub-tick is to give everyone a consistent, tick-independent experience that's better than CS:GO's 64 or 128 tick experience. “ This quote feels weird since it seems the subtick works alongside a tick rate and they seem to have still chosen 64 tick for that
2023-10-27 23:35
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Well yes they have chosen to have subtick be used for most important stuff like shooting and apperently moving. And they use 64 tick to send regular updates to players like kda, death, kill.
2023-10-28 00:17
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where is bob?
2023-10-27 23:36
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7 replies
where is cl_righhand 0 -... sad game
2023-10-27 23:44
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6 replies
they already said righthand 0 won't be a thing because of how their shadow system work
2023-10-28 00:42
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5 replies
Source?
2023-10-28 01:36
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4 replies
#175
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
910 | 
France pheno71
2
2023-10-28 03:10
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1 reply
Bad
2023-10-28 06:15
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it's written in one of the first update notes of CS2, don't remember which one
2023-10-28 12:03
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1 reply
don't think so bro
2023-10-28 18:14
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#36
Faceit level 10  | 
Italy Ote||o
New weapons: rocket launcher, nerfed after 2 days of absolute chaos, now deals only -30dmg and cost $1000/shot Don't worry we know what we're doing
2023-10-27 23:36
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BRING BACK AZTEC!!!
2023-10-27 23:38
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#39
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Canada zizzle21
Could of just called it an open beta and then do the real "launch" w an operation so braindead lwokey lol
2023-10-27 23:37
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#44
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North America minte
wow actually huge to get a reply like this from Valve, i never would've expected this in a million years... rare to show them actually give rationale for their updates
2023-10-27 23:38
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2 replies
they see the numbers better than anybody else so i guess shits on fire yoo
2023-10-27 23:42
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#99
Faceit level 4  | 
FalleN | 
Brazil dungahk
it would have been huge if it was an actual interview, but it looks just like a staged q&a that valve paid to say nothing relevant.
2023-10-28 00:09
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#46
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
gob b | 
Russia froelz1337
Obviously releasing something early is the fastest way to fix it, you could say that about any game, it shouldn't be an excuse imo. But it is what it is
2023-10-27 23:39
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I didn't hear any specifics from them. just banter.
2023-10-27 23:40
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I AM NOT CONVINCED AT ALL BRO
2023-10-27 23:41
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3 replies
Why not? CSGO was originally WAY worse than CS2 is. They fix this shit and have proven they fix it in the past. All you motherfuckers crying about how CS2 is terrible and that Valve isn't going to fix it clearly aren't old enough to remember how shit CSGO used to be.
2023-10-28 02:54
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#291
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China Mahiro
just give them 10 years bro! its ok for htis game to be bad because csgo was bad too!
2023-10-28 19:02
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1 reply
Yup this is the most braindead take that I've seen. But but but their last game was dogshit too. Like that is any fucking excuse for the steaming pile of trash that they gave us. A multi billion dollar company delivering the most underwhelming game in years. But it's ok because it will be fixed in 6 years.
2023-10-28 21:13
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New weapon is going to be something pulled from valorant, basically everything down the to scoreboard is. Xddd
2023-10-27 23:42
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3 replies
I don't get it, valorant copy pastes csgo, but when csgo takes a couple of ideas from valorant it's a crime
2023-10-28 00:43
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1 reply
Not a crime but it's pretty obvious they are just changing things for the sake of changing things, not because they were actually an issue
2023-10-28 00:51
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like what? All Valorant guns are just takes on CS guns. There's not one gun in the game that isn't in CS already.
2023-10-28 13:12
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very rare valve appearance , loba also has alot to say regarding this article lul
2023-10-27 23:43
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#62
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal King_tmac
When will I stop dying behind the wall?
2023-10-27 23:43
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"Valve still have plans to re-introduce popular game modes and to explore others." FUCK.YES. i finally want to play anything other than dm, wingman or premier
2023-10-27 23:43
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1 reply
Bro don’t be delusional. They were always going to have stuff like that in the game like community servers. But the problem is they should have been ready to go on release. Can say the same with wingman maps, danger zone, valve retakes and scouts and knives, list goes on. Instead we still don’t have modding tools for source mod, still no workshop, and even when we get that stuff it will still take another month or two before plugins get recoded and maps get ported for things like kz, surf, bhop, and the countless other game modes.
2023-10-28 00:26
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#65
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
Kosovo neonzen
cl righthand and cl bob is so simple to add yet they havent, game breaking
2023-10-27 23:43
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2 replies
I would guess other priorities. Like getting dangerzone etc to work.
2023-10-28 00:15
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they already said righthand 0 won't be a thing because of how their shadow system work
2023-10-28 00:44
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#67
gore | 
Austria 0815
why introduce new weapons maybe re-balance existing weapons so they are not completly useless also why add weapons when we can only buy 5/5/5 and have not enough space for all the weapons already
2023-10-27 23:45
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#98
Faceit level 7  | 
flairr | 
South America imnotwinning
Because revolver and mp5 are so popular, volvo know what comunity wants
2023-10-28 00:09
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1 reply
Mp5 lowkey good with how cs2 favors smgs and run and gun overall.
2023-10-28 01:13
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there we have it "fastest" and why take the fastest way? idiots couldve waited a few months more
2023-10-27 23:46
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#71
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
f0rest | 
Argentina evilized
Add the cl_righthand 0 command for the sake of god
2023-10-27 23:46
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1 reply
they already said righthand 0 won't be a thing because of how their shadow system work
2023-10-28 00:44
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#73
hazz | 
Germany Hustl3
Help, my Bullshitmeter just broke
2023-10-27 23:51
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2 replies
#83
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Turkey Nerd_With_No_Life
why you so hate?
2023-10-28 00:01
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1 reply
#95
hazz | 
Germany Hustl3
Because its simply not true what they say.
2023-10-28 00:07
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Tactical Shields are coming back to comp fellas
2023-10-27 23:54
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#81
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Turkey Nerd_With_No_Life
Valve is most friendly company ever
2023-10-28 00:00
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#82
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
GuardiaN | 
Other Darge
It looks like we bought our "early access" boys!! How come that from Valve and a game with over a million users idk
2023-10-28 00:01
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Return mr 15
2023-10-28 00:01
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#86
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
ropz | 
Finland wormi
good ass post from chad valve
2023-10-28 00:03
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#94
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Germany hltvfinest
tldr: Artifact needs more devs
2023-10-28 00:06
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#101
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England BobDude65
Makes sense to be fair, still a frustrating situation but it is understandable on Valve's part.
2023-10-28 00:13
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Full of shit Valve. It’s not bad but it’s not good and in its current state is a downgrade from csgo. The game was rushed and wasn’t ready and they fucked up by giving themselves a deadline they couldn’t live up to Things that should have been ready to go on release werent and still haven’t been added to the game yet or things that should be fixed. It’s disappointing. Not to mention the two main things the community has been asking for, we didn’t get.
2023-10-28 00:24
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1 reply
+1
2023-10-28 01:13
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Disgusting corporation followed by the most disgusting sheep.
2023-10-28 00:26
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5 replies
Can't say they're a disgusting company, when you look at 99% of the other ones Valve is like S tier but what they did with the way they handled the cs2 release is garbage af.
2023-10-28 01:15
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Only if you're sub-midwit iq. VALVe obtained the vast majority of their power by shady monetization and anti-consumer practices. DRM is anti-consumer, Steam games are not yours, you're essentially renting them, and they can be taken away at any moment. On top of the DRM model they have propelled, there is the skins microtransaction they started with TF2 and massified with CSGO and Dota, absolute horrendous system designed to its very core to take advantage of little boys with completly fried attention spans and no self-control. Compared to what? Ubisoft and EA? are you really about to say they're worst because their dogshit games have pay to win mechanics? imagine being this fucking daft...
2023-10-28 02:45
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Ahaha, i gotta agree with everything you said. It's sad that the standard is so low nowadays.
2023-10-28 04:17
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#193
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Brazil 1_Flippy
+1 they were the ones who started all this micro$ bullshit that plagues a bunch of games nowadays, and yet theres always heaps of idiots dedicated to defend this company, worse of all, without getting a dime for (unlike those twitter profiles that i refuse to name here which every1 knows), honestly embarrassing
2023-10-28 04:37
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Yup they are the company responsible for the horrible drm we have now and I hate them for that alone. The neglect of cs is just the cherry on top. Fuck valve and it's anti consumer drm dogshit. I will never understand how anyone thinks that they are the good guys when they are responsible for a good amount of the decline of gaming.
2023-10-28 21:18
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#108
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
NEO | 
Poland ScR1337
shit and dead game, what have you done volvo
2023-10-28 00:27
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Nothingburger interview
2023-10-28 00:28
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the game is fine, cs players just like to complain
2023-10-28 00:34
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1 reply
I usually defend valve, but no, this game is a downgrade in almost every way from CS and they still haven't addressed any of the major issues
2023-10-28 00:56
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#113
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Russia Topper!
Nice
2023-10-28 00:37
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#114
Faceit level 10  | 
mOE | 
Afghanistan jokkaz
piece of garbage game keep lying to yourselves
2023-10-28 00:38
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Sorry, does everyone wanted to reach the infinite sh*t? That's what valve helped all of us with? :)
2023-10-28 00:39
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in other words 'we suck but it's for your own good'
2023-10-28 00:44
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The game is fine
2023-10-28 01:01
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They're gonna ruin this game even further
2023-10-28 01:05
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#137
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Italy alastt27
"For the most part the [subtick] system works as intended", huh??
2023-10-28 01:16
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2 replies
For the most part it does.
2023-10-28 01:37
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1 reply
#152
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Italy alastt27
yeah, if they mean it should work as 64 tick but with way more desync, then yes.
2023-10-28 01:47
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"For the most part the [subtick] system works as intended"
2023-10-28 01:23
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"CS2's future isn't set in stone. We don't have a specific vision that we're trying to realize" To me that reads like they don't really care about CS and they just need to make sure they can continue selling cases and skins by updating it a little bit.
2023-10-28 01:33
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idk how one can read that in a way you are thinking about it :D. That literally says its an ever evolving process, and right now they do not have the end-goal. As it says, they want every fps player to feel like home when playing, so they deffo care about cs.
2023-10-28 01:38
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They have no plan. They'll do how they did with CS:GO and just release an update occasionally. What bugs me is that they haven't even thought about anything, no vision, they just sleep their way through development as showcased with this CS2 release.
2023-10-28 01:45
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3 replies
No vision. It literally says that they want every fps gamer to feel home playing cs2
2023-10-28 03:22
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2 replies
I could sell you sand in Sahara
2023-10-28 14:09
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1 reply
Yeah sure you do, if price is negative.
2023-10-28 14:26
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People are retarded, hence why he was able to read it that way... these bozos love making up scenarios in their lives and think their perception is the only perception there is. On top of that, they won't EVER be satisfied, that's the real joke here. Bunch of ungrateful tards, that are only able to take from you but their contribution to community is negative. this mf said valve updated the engine just so they k eep selling cases, like ?... mf has been using his head as boxing bag cause I reject to believe you're born like this.
2023-10-28 02:10
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Are u using ur head? When CS2 rolled out weren't there insane amount of cases opened? players flooded back in got excited because they saw shinny skins opened cases and left. CS2 is terrible and there is no excuse for it.
2023-10-28 02:17
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You're right! Valve is to blame for your financial literacy and life decisions! Hey brother you dropped this: 🧠
2023-10-28 02:42
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13 replies
Forgot to blame Valve for the fact that tCS2 is trash?
2023-10-28 13:17
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12 replies
Changing topics since we can't answer our own fallacies, are we? How fitting to someone like you:))
2023-10-28 13:18
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Wow wow, someone is trying to sound fancy :D Topic wasn't changed i added to it. U implied that there is not a chance valve switched to source 2 for increased case opening which would obviously would be stupid to assume since the cases have been opened insane amount of times in a game that's trash, so get ur head around u moron.
2023-10-28 13:21
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I implied that correlation between Valve porting csgo to source2 engine and people buying new skins in that new game does not make Valve responsible for anyone's financial and life decisions. If you can't understand that and would rather ( I know you would) blame them for your decisions than I don't have anything else to say to you:)) Blame them for your IQ too?
2023-10-28 13:25
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Did anyone say it makes them responsible for people financial decisions? What was implied that they made a shit game and released it because they always new that the promise of CS2 and the influx of new and old players would still give them a money boost from case openings and that was was more important than delaying the shit game. If u can't follow simple discussions then i suggest u stay of forums ur moron. Where do morons like you pop up?
2023-10-28 13:54
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#164 "When CS2 rolled out weren't there insane amount of cases opened? players flooded back in got excited because they saw shinny skins opened cases and left." You weren't able to understand me before so let me try this. idgf about people who flooded cs2 and just opened many cases bcs of shiny skins and then left... There's not a single reason why would I care, nor single reason for valve. If anyone's big of an idiot enough to play a game only bcs of skins and their only contribution to the community and game is "skins" then I hope their inventories decrease in value) As for you... LOL. I am speechless you even tried to use that in an argument. cs2 has problems just like csgo and css had, you probably weren't around anyway so your tiktok attention span can hardly grasp the idea of things getting polished as time goes, hell not even an official statement from the devs is enough for an ungrateful person like you. Trash ahh "moron" don't @ me anymore.
2023-10-28 14:14
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#159 "this mf said valve updated the engine just so they k eep selling cases, like ?... mf has been using his head as boxing bag cause I reject to believe you're born like this." I have to ask, have u got mental problems men? Or were u just born outright stupid? Moron!
2023-10-28 14:20
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Your only comeback to what I wrote is an insult, bravo. If you have to ask, let me answer, no I don't have any mental problems and unlike you I am able to understand that the source2 engine was not introduced bcs of cash grab from Valve. It's an engine that Valve had implemented into their other titles and it brings new tools for the devs to improve the game massively and opens up new possibilites, but you would know yourself if you'd have read the article. just don't bother anymore lmao
2023-10-28 14:28
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You talked about changing subjects but u can't even follow what u are saying, which definitely implies that u are a moron. Nobody said valve only released it to cash grab, but they released cs2 in the shit state that it's in because the hype was real and they knew people who previously stopped playing and new players would flood the game, opening cases whic in turn brings in a couple of hundred millions for them for free. Anybody would do that, don't be mistaken that valve cares or that they aren't incompetent when it comes to cs. The game is yet to be improved let alone reach the standards set by its predecessor. Hence the slow rate of meaningful updates. This is why this discussion took place, Valve did what they did because it benefited them money wise.
2023-10-28 14:50
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A fairly tale opinion, great) but hey I am giving up, I am moron to you:( and you clearly know it all, so yeah 100% on my momma valve released the game only bcs of hype yaaay!
2023-10-28 14:53
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3 replies
Okay, i apologize for the name calling, i have trouble controlling myself sometimes. But i obviously meant they released it to early because of the hype, i think we can agree that the game is still trash today, not only the core gameplay is bad but there are game modes missing and many other things.
2023-10-28 15:12
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Don't apologize.. Valve definitely released it too early, that should be clear to anyone with a few working brain cells. CS is just a cash-cow for Valve. The transition to CS 2 is messed up but probably the right way to go if you are as incompetent as Valve are currently. They will right the the wrongs with time but their vision is to keep being that simple cash-cow and that's what is just sad.
2023-10-29 02:55
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Yes, that was my point, with how Valve seems to act doesn't feel like they care like we care. Which not only sad but angering.
2023-10-29 12:26
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#294
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China Mahiro
+15 valvebux, goyim!
2023-10-28 19:10
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1 reply
mohoro 😴💤
2023-10-28 19:23
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+1
2023-10-28 23:18
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Sometimes you die without even being able to see the shooter and.. Sometimes you die several meters behind a wall from where you got killed. This game has been in beta since March and Volvo haven't even fixed the most glaring issues.
2023-10-28 01:42
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Sometimes you die without even being able to see the shooter and.... - Doesn't feel good Sometimes you die several meters behind a wall from where you got killed - Doesn't feel good Let me add another one. Sometimes you kill someone several meters behind a wall - Certainly doesn't feel good as well
2023-10-28 16:54
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Fastest yes, the most optimal for everyone? I don't think so. 🙃
2023-10-28 01:42
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1 reply
+1 clown logic from billion dollar company.
2023-10-28 02:03
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More like the Dumbest way to start off the new game tbh
2023-10-28 01:45
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I love how the dev tries to pass people missing shots as just the hitbox misalignment when people are aiming down which is 100% UNTRUE. People are missing all over the place not just when the enemy is crouching down.
2023-10-28 02:00
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Volvo only cares about case opening commissions.
2023-10-28 02:07
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Holy
2023-10-28 02:15
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#171
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Andorra mopGOD420
don't worry, it's ok because it is still a beta
2023-10-28 02:49
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The major is in February, you have qualifiers before that. Game has to be back to its best before then. Is that really enough time?
2023-10-28 02:53
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#180
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United States xxSL
Iem sydney was enjoyable, dont know why major should be a mess
2023-10-28 03:23
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4 replies
it will be fine, I don't understand why people are so mad about CS2. I am "mad" because we don't have wingman maps, retakes, proper DM, surf, kz, etc. But premier mode works nicely in my opinion (well just I don't understand how I am supposed to have a good rank when i lose 450 points for each loss..)
2023-10-28 12:17
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Did u see the showmatch?? There was an instance of CTs being able to pick the bomb up and plant it and then defuse it as well xD
2023-10-28 16:55
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#284
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United States xxSL
bro. this was on purpose for showmatch only
2023-10-28 17:23
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1 reply
I know, I just pointed out it was a really enjoyable match. Other than that, I dont think it was as enjoyable for me personally
2023-10-28 19:08
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Most likely won't be as polished as we'd like it to be... Just like they mentioned in the interview, might be a year, five or ten)
2023-10-28 03:24
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Mixed responses from Valve
2023-10-28 03:15
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#183
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
china | 
Brazil ginga do maroto
Anonymous Valve Employee
2023-10-28 03:34
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lets go
2023-10-28 03:37
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ALL VALVE HAD TO SAY WAS "sorry were extending the beta till the end of the year" and keep CSGO running along side it until it was in a better state and NO ONE WOULD BE MAD!!! NO ONE!!!!! Now we literally have the WORST of both worlds. NO CSGO and SHIT CS2..... yikes.....
2023-10-28 03:41
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#295
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China Mahiro
they screwed themselves over with the major announcement date
2023-10-28 19:10
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Ultimately they can't split the player base between two games so they just ripped off the band-aid in order to lessen the backlash. In their eyes it had to be done, and forcing it earlier/in the beta was certainly the lesser of two evils (from their perspective). Imagine if nobody decided to switch to the "better"/new game. That is a guaranteed why to kill counter strike, whether you like it or not.
2023-10-29 18:55
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How valve can be so patient with these child like temper tantrums we've been seeing, and still respond to cs2 criticism so professionally as they have is beyond me.
2023-10-28 04:10
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#195
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
china | 
Brazil ginga do maroto
why beyond you? do you lose your temper easily? it's not in your best interest
2023-10-28 04:41
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#296
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China Mahiro
meatriding a multi billion dollar company is insane but expected from flag
2023-10-28 19:11
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2 replies
So speaketh mr. loli flair
2023-10-29 18:56
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How hard is it to put your emotions into words instead of having child-like tantrums? Yelling and crying that this game is shit will do nothing but slow progress. This may be hard of me to ask, but think a little. Ask yourself what it is about the game you don't like, why, and how you would you like it to be changed to improve the feeling of this game. You know, that thing called constructive criticsm.
2023-10-31 03:47
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it has so many fps drops, overpass... is unplayable... premier, is so bad...
2023-10-28 04:17
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4 replies
#197
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Ukraine HLTV_God
Why you dont like premier? Its so much better then in go, where it took like 10min to start a game?
2023-10-28 04:42
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3 replies
the following problem - toxic, griefing unbalanced elos... or matches... but this faceit and premier elo doest mean aynthing... matchmaking is now unplayable you cant uprank from silver anymore
2023-10-28 05:35
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What valve can do about toxic team mats lol? Just find cool guys to play with. Each time you play with a nice guy you can add him and in a week or two you'll never play alone again.
2023-10-28 12:19
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Premier is trash because of its rating system. When you take your rating solely from wins in scenario where your teams mates are not always the same and your opponents are not consistent you get a very inaccurate and very frustrating system. I have win games 13-11 where I have had nearly on 40 kills and some guys at the bottom of our team cost us most of the those 11 rounds and he gets the same elo boost as me. He should get nothing, he didnt help up, he hindered us.
2023-10-28 20:27
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#194
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Australia Beard43
"...the CS2 Limited Test player base shrinking as time went on." It was shrinking because people realised CS2 is garbage and wanted to keep playing CS:GO, so people stopped playing it. Now we're left with a choice, to play what should still be a beta or find a game that isn't CS at all. That is definitely not good for the CS scene, regardless of what people who choose to disparage members of the community who won't tolerate being a developer in their leisure time think.
2023-10-28 04:41
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#196
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
china | 
Brazil ginga do maroto
will be good in the long run
2023-10-28 04:42
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1 reply
#199
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Australia Beard43
Good for other game developers and the health of those who choose to go outside instead for sure.
2023-10-28 05:13
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#198
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Afghanistan Pewpo
Not one word on AC G FUCKING G.
2023-10-28 04:50
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Source 2 is older than csgo. And then they talk about rush...
2023-10-28 05:16
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Bunch of Karens in this thread.
2023-10-28 05:16
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> We'll typically look at cases where players either don't have the right tools to approach a situation or have only one or two tools available I wonder what situation they think R8 is the right tool to approach to with.
2023-10-28 05:30
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1 reply
Did u read? They know r8 release was mistake
2023-10-28 10:35
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> ”It's not the top priority at the moment, but we absolutely plan to introduce some new weapons for CS2. We'll typically look at cases” Ma drilla
2023-10-28 05:44
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#208
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Europe richwilde
Obviously this was the case that it had to be released immediately. low iq haters thinks that continuing the limited test for 100 people would have been better lmao.
2023-10-28 06:51
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You are taking this too far. It's not 100 but 100k at least. Ofc they need the whole playerbase to have good feedback, but before announcing anything they could have worked just a couple of months more to give us stuff like retake mode, wingman maps, proper DM. I could code retake mode in a day tbh, everything is ready already
2023-10-28 12:23
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Did I get it wrong, are they gaslighting us into thinking that's all is okay and game is not rushed?
2023-10-28 07:59
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1 reply
Full on damage control with the few tools they have
2023-10-28 14:10
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#211
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Poland Pechowy
They should keep open beta and wait with release at least until 2024. This game is far from ready. Instead we are forced to play worse game
2023-10-28 08:34
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"For the most part the [subtick] system works as intended -Valve" we're fucked, no hope for getting back cl bob and turning off the tracers and stuff like that these guys live in their own bubble
2023-10-28 09:52
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#214
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland Maliken
What is the point of updating this game while is cheat festival.
2023-10-28 10:19
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#222
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Portugal Joaoman73
if its working as intended then sub tick will always be shit
2023-10-28 11:53
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In the crap...
2023-10-28 12:12
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Fix peekers advantage, cheating and re-enable demos - and the game will be finally good.
2023-10-28 12:26
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#231
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Europe yommamas
itt: forever silvers crying because they can't hit their shots
2023-10-28 12:26
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THe only people that aren't crying are the silvers, because they can finally hit theirs shots, u know? Shoot in the past kill in the future mechanic? The peekers advantage and not to mention the new running and gunning mechanics.
2023-10-28 13:22
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#316
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Europe yommamas
Peekers always had an advantage. It's nothing new
2023-10-29 05:24
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Not as much as this, we were fine holding angles in cs:go. Dont mistake pre fires with CS2 peekers advantage where u can run out jerk off and still one tap the guy holding.
2023-10-29 12:22
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#330
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Europe yommamas
Obviously I never played on LAN and I usually peek before they peek me, but even when I am holding an angle, 140hz vs 60hz monitor still has a bigger impact than cs2's changes
2023-10-30 08:28
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Well 60hz is ass no doubt about that, but if 60hz was in CS:GO imagine what would happen in cs2. And no, in CS2 angle holding is not advised. The game is just trash.
2023-10-30 13:50
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#337
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Europe yommamas
The game isn't trash, it's just a bit different. Rewarding combat awping and agressive peeks And again, it's only a MINOR shift in balance that they will probably refine back to what it was
2023-10-31 09:50
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2023-10-28 14:11
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Silvers are some of the few happy community becoz they don't have to stop and aim to use a gun these days. Jump, run, crab walk whatever the fuck u want to do, even killing ppl in another timeline is possible ofc they feel the game is good
2023-10-28 17:04
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#317
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Europe yommamas
holy copium, confirmed silver. Go ahead and try to run and gun then. It's so easy right? that's how the game works, you will be global in no time. Just don't redeem it
2023-10-29 05:26
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Volvo tell me as a working man with a girlfriend how the fuck should i get 10 wins on every single map, to not being forced to play painful unranked :)
2023-10-28 12:29
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I'm always baffled how people seriously compare launch CS2 to the +10years developed version of CSGO. Of course a new release won't be as good as a game that had over 10 years of updates and changes added to it, but CS2 is already better than CSGO was in it's first years. Releasing the game for more feedback also makes perfect sense. Why use ~10% of the playerbase when you can use the full 100%? More players means more feedback. More feedback means faster spotting of things that need to be changed which will result in faster updates to fix or change stuff. Game might not be as great as CSGO was at the end, but just like with the release of CSGO that's something we gotta sit through now and instead of non-stop complaining you could go and give Valve actual feedback on what's not working, or what should be addressed, to help them improve the game quicker.
2023-10-28 13:33
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+1 Imagine if they launch CS2 with CSGO available, probably the players would keep playing, for them would be pretty bad, few feedbacks about the new game. I've never seen a game released without bugs. As a Software Enginner i can't disagree with this solution, the best way to test your software is releasing to the users.
2023-10-28 14:08
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Its not like they listen to feedbacks, if they ddi there would be 128 tick servers no scamtick and a better anti cheat, better mm system and rewards. What did we actually get?
2023-10-30 14:00
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+1 Ungrateful trash ahh people only capable of crying can't understand what's happening around cs2 now.
2023-10-28 14:17
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That's why you don't force a pro scene switch asap, on an unfinished game
2023-10-28 18:00
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#297
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China Mahiro
10 more years, goys!!!!! just wait 10 more years! this boot tastes so good btw
2023-10-28 19:12
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What do you want Valve to do? Keep CSGO running for another 10 years and develop CS2 as a beta with a slowly dying out beta playerbase, immensely slowing down the development of the game?
2023-10-28 22:44
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Yes, if Valve is that incompetent and they can't make CS2 up to the standards then its their fault and CS2 should have stayed in beta for years until they make it right, not force everyone to play that shit. Valve has billions if need be they can higher more mens to work on cs2.
2023-10-30 13:59
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my eyes bleed,every time someone tries to defend Valve with the stupid argument, "cs:go was bad at launch"
2023-10-29 16:03
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#253
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden PolluxGG
Valve is and has been busy with Dota TI atm, they will fix CS faster when its over. ggez I know all
2023-10-28 14:18
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Revolver was out in 2015???I thought it was 2 years ago.......damn where did my life go
2023-10-28 16:11
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Server in 1.6 for which I paid like $1 per month had 100 tick - you can't buy a skin for that amount, but ok, it's too expensive to have decent servers lol
2023-10-28 16:30
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All those ppl who have been saying that how u do not understand those ppl that are comparing a game which had 10 yrs to develop to a freshly released game. The answer is that - The standard release ideal condition has been high nowadays as many such titles come into the spotlight. U can't release something which would take another few years to develop and then expect ppl to not point it out, when its still not upto the mark. Standards from what people will accept from a game "in beta" and a game "released" are different nowadays... and I think that's completely reasonable.
2023-10-28 17:10
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#298
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China Mahiro
this is why games like cyberprank flopped, cdpr knew that there will always be meatriders defending shitty releases
2023-10-28 19:13
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No, its not. Games should release fully functional with no issues and in a perfect working state.
2023-10-28 20:23
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No one with 2 brain cells gives a fuck about you adding or even thinking about adding extra weapons before the fucking game is playable.
2023-10-28 17:11
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2 replies
+1000
2023-10-28 17:59
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Clap
2023-10-29 00:03
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#299
Faceit level 10  | 
mOE | 
Afghanistan jokkaz
valve hates cs. the level of delusion omg
2023-10-28 19:15
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Thats a lie. You had 2 perfect games as baselines, GO and 1.6. Replicate parts of those and its done.
2023-10-28 20:22
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i feel like they didnt say anything new in this interview. We knew that they released earlier to force us all to test and fix the game faster, we knew that arms race and DZ are coming in the near future, we knew that source2 makes fixing and adding easier/faster...
2023-10-28 22:54
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#310
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil sprk1
workshop when???
2023-10-28 22:57
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Read some comments and most of the arguments are "CS2 is bad because it's not CS:GO". Oh my fucking God, stop crying guys. The launch was rushed and that is fact, but saying that is unplayable is cringe. If you will play it with bad attitude you will only see the problems.
2023-10-29 07:37
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It is unplayable, and not in the sense than you can't open the game and join a server, in a sense that when u play it sucks the life out of you.
2023-10-30 13:54
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VALVE: "LAUNCHING WHEN WE DID WAS THE FASTEST WAY TO GET CS2 TO WHERE WE ALL WANT IT TO BE Most ridiculous excuse i could ever hear ! All they had to do was to go to open beta and open limited test for everyone. You cant release a mess and say this crap of excuse, sorry.
2023-10-29 18:57
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Actually true. They don't even know what they are saying anymore.
2023-10-30 13:52
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