cadiaN: "It still haunts me that we lost to Outsiders in that Major final"

The Danish IGL discussed HEROIC's adaptation to LAN play after the end of the COVID-induced online era in episode two of a three-part interview series.

cadiaN stated that Heroic's Major final loss to Outsiders still gives him nightmares

The second episode of HEROIC's interview series with Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller chronicled HEROIC's journey as Counter-Strike returned to LAN play following the COVID-induced online era, beginning with IEM Cologne 2021. Losses to Astralis and FaZe meant the team exited prior to the playoffs, but cadiaN was measured in his reaction.

"We had a rough transition to LAN at the beginning," the Danish IGL admitted. "It was not awful, we still played good CS on some maps and beat some good teams, but we didn’t hit our ceiling at all the same way. Gradually it got better, and the Stockholm Major was where we really felt ‘We can do this.’"

It wasn’t long after Cologne that HEROIC brought Richard "⁠Xizt⁠" Landström into the fold as their coach, and cadiaN spoke about how the experience of the Swedish legend helped the team adjust to LAN. "He helped us perform at the Stockholm Major," cadiaN began.

"He is such an experienced guy, he has tried this multiple times, playing in these arenas. It gave us some calmness to know that we have a guy behind us that knows what he’s talking about, and if he does a timeout, we can trust him. So he definitely did help us a lot in the early stages of the LAN transition."

The interview eventually turned to the hostile reception HEROIC received at the BLAST Fall Final 2021, particularly when they played against Astralis. cadiaN was not impressed by the behaviour. “Obviously the Astralis fans loved beating us in the arena, and there were of course more Astralis fans than Heroic,” the 28-year-old stated.

"It’s one thing to cheer for the other team, it’s another to boo us, they also booed FaZe and karrigan when they played against Astralis, and they also booed NIP and device. When you boo karrigan, and device, and all of Heroic, what are you even doing on home soil? I get you want to cheer for the other team, that’s fine, but you need to recognize device brought you four Majors and was your best player for so many years, and karrigan was part of that project and has done so much for the Danish scene as well."

cadiaN recounted how, after HEROIC couldn't match their online era form when LAN play returned, he knew change was needed. "I think after Katowice," he stated. "That’s when I knew that at some point, we were going to have to change.”

“I knew that when the right option came, we would have to make a change. I still believed we could do good things and solve the issue as the five players and the coach, yes we changed refrezh but it was not just his mistake, it was a team thing. One guy’s communication can obviously swing things, but if four others are communicating great, the one guy is going to get better information and overview, so it was a team thing.”

Jakob "⁠jabbi⁠" Nygaard was the player that HEROIC turned to in order to improve their fortunes, but cadiaN states it was not necessarily a straightforward decision to bring the young Dane into the fold.

"He had a lot of games where he was showing a lot of body language and not looking like a good teammate," cadiaN said. "So we had some worries with him that we had to address before getting him on. When we signed him, our communication got instantly better, because he was really good at communicating."

After a period of adjustment immediately after jabbi's arrival, HEROIC's LAN form began to improve steadily, and this led to what cadiaN called one of the proudest moments of his time in HEROIC. The match he refers to came at the IEM Rio Major 2022.

"The FURIA semi-final of the Major is definitely one of the games, maybe the game, that I am the most proud of that we played during my Heroic time." cadiaN reminisced. "We went into that arena, which was the most crazy maybe any esports tournament has ever seen, the amount of noise they could make in a 360 arena. People have to think about that, this was not just all the sound coming in front if you, it was everywhere you looked."

Unfortunately for cadiaN, one of the biggest regrets of his career is also associated with the Rio Major. "It still haunts me that we lost to Outsiders in that Major final," cadiaN lamented.

"Not that they are a bad team, because they played incredible, FL1T and fame were so good, hitting so many headshots, n0rb3r7 and Qikert were playing their roles to perfection, and Jame is Jame you know, he does his thing and it works. So the utmost respect for the way the played and how they did it, but it’s probably going to be hard to find a better chance of winning a Major and lifting the trophy, so I still have some nightmares about that."

The episode ended with discussion of HEROIC's first significant LAN trophy, which came on home soil at the BLAST Premier Fall Final 2022. "Probably the best moment of my career, lifting the trophy on home turf with all the people I love around me. To share this with the team and the organization, all this, it was unbelievable."

Denmark Jakob 'jabbi' Nygaard
Jakob 'jabbi' Nygaard
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
968
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
Denmark Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1673
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.62
#1
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England dayandnight
Then win the BLAST
2023-11-24 14:03
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1 reply
lmao
2023-11-24 23:13
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#2
sAw | 
Germany Links234
Norbert 1
2023-11-24 14:04
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5 replies
#4
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Israel avivpro13
norbert_1_major_niko_0
2023-11-24 14:05
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#15
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n0rb3r7 | 
Finland Delre
Norbert_1_major_cadian_0
2023-11-24 14:11
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3 replies
I guess cadian is one of those guys you want to see winning a major event
2023-11-24 14:13
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2 replies
#44
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n0rb3r7 | 
Finland Delre
nah I need to see sanji winning one
2023-11-24 15:33
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1 reply
He gave up, thats why norbert_1
2023-11-24 15:37
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#3
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England Triturn
Dw mate. It was such a shit major noone remembers it. You'll win the next one (as long as it isn't vs faze).
2023-11-24 14:05
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1 reply
You mean complexity I know
2023-11-24 14:08
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#5
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Czech Republic Semi96
least memorable major grand final imo
2023-11-24 14:05
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6 replies
#19
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Monaco Noobdavind
astralis vs avangar
2023-11-24 14:18
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1 reply
#22
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Czech Republic Semi96
I'm biased since I'm an astralis fan and I also watched that match. I tuned out during the rio major and few months ago I even had to google who won it, because I forgot lol
2023-11-24 14:24
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#43
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Russia yewert
Paris major's final is only relevant because of ZyWoo. If he wasn't on that Vitality team, nobody would care at all. GamerLegion fans don't even exist. IEM Rio major, on the other hand, had the whole RU+KZ rooting for VP & JameGOAT on one side, and one of the best teams of the last 3 years with GOAT Cadian on the other side
2023-11-24 15:29
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#53
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f0rest | 
Slovenia escmoody
+1
2023-11-24 16:06
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But there was Zywoo, so it was relevant, then whats the point of your comment ?
2023-11-24 21:48
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No one besides russians and kazachs cared about that much tho so nah it's one of the worst major finals if not the worst
2023-11-24 23:14
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Weak
2023-11-24 14:05
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Jame GOAT
2023-11-24 14:05
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1 reply
+1
2023-11-24 17:29
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What about gamerlegion
2023-11-24 14:05
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#12
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Germany who|cars
2 bots stabbi cant perform on grand final hard to win 3v5 whole bo3
2023-11-24 14:07
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well atleast jabbi was there in the finals, where as Stavn was full on missing in finals
2023-11-24 14:24
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England naDalous
The fans were right to boo for faze and karrigan
2023-11-24 14:11
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#17
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Greece spreyyy
No problem cadian, no one cares about that shit major (I even fell asleep watching it) Also VP will always be the most disliked team :) ignore it m8
2023-11-24 14:17
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if valve had some integrity and didnt only care about money, they wouldnt let outsiders play in the major
2023-11-24 14:18
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Valve never punished players for their gov. Also then they had to ban navi, C9 etc
2023-11-24 14:47
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#33
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Spain Marshall_D_AdreN
what is this shit take
2023-11-24 14:50
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Yeah, Commander Jame, leader of Putins army had sent Norbert into Ukraine with only a five-seven while Jame stayed in Russia and saved AWP. People were very upset about that and Outsiders should have been banned. To think these 5 gamers, who spend all their time playing CS, had so much to do with the war!! lmao
2023-11-24 15:39
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Valve has integrity that’s exactly why they let Outsiders play. They’re not biased by politics.
2023-11-24 15:45
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#76
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Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
Lmao brainwashed spoted and reported.
2023-11-25 10:59
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#20
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steel | 
Armenia Imissexoptic
same brother..
2023-11-24 14:23
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comediaN as usual, jame owns that bot
2023-11-24 14:36
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+rep cadian
2023-11-24 14:53
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#35
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United Kingdom SickaBoy
jame most underrated
2023-11-24 14:54
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chokers LULW
2023-11-24 15:22
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#42
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Puerto Rico pain^
It still haunts that you won all of your trophies using coach bug
2023-11-24 15:25
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2 replies
#49
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Rwanda 7hai
yeah on lan.
2023-11-24 15:48
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least delusional boomer
2023-11-24 18:50
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Outsiders were playing perfect CS at Rio. Nothing to be ashamed of.
2023-11-24 15:41
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JAMEEEEE TIMEEE
2023-11-24 17:27
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norb 1 major
2023-11-24 17:30
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1 reply
Niko still 0
2023-11-24 17:46
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#61
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Poland SebL
One of the best IGLs in the world, one of the best fragging ones at that, I think the future is bright for him, I think he can find a great success in Liquid or wherever he choses to go, it's a huge blow to Heroic to let a player like this go, I really think he was atleast like haf of the reason of their success, really sucks for Heroic, but GL cadiaN! Bright future ahead.
2023-11-24 18:20
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#67
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Norway Snaids
Me too
2023-11-25 00:21
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#68
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New Zealand Special__K
Jame is Jame you know
2023-11-25 03:54
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GOAT Jame
2023-11-25 06:08
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#70
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Canada thw423
Losing to ex major finalists Jame and Qikert shouldnt be the haunting thing. The haunting one should be getting swept with a map lead by a team called GamerLegion in the semis of a major/.
2023-11-25 06:58
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Romania garcea89
This...
2023-11-25 08:27
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#75
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Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
It's normal when weaker team loses to stronger. Just relax CadiaN :)
2023-11-25 10:56
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