PGL CS2 Major Copenhagen 2024 Europe RMR A

PGL unveils EU RMRs team distribution

22-1-2024 10:39

Thirty-two teams will travel to Bucharest next month to compete for 17 spots at the Major.

Reigning Major champions Vitality placed in RMR B

PGL has announced the team distribution for the two European Regional Major Ranking (RMR) tournaments that will be held before the Copenhagen Major.

Thirty-two teams from all over Europe will be taking part in the EU RMRs, scheduled for February 17-24. Eleven teams were invited based on their results at the BLAST Paris Major, while the remaining 21 sides had to earn their entry through the closed qualifiers.

Each RMR tournament will feature a five-round Swiss stage, with only the progression and elimination rounds featuring a best-of-three format. The top eight sides will earn entry into either the Opening or the Elimination stages of the Major (depending on their rank in Valve's Regional Standings), while the teams that finish 9th through 11th will go to a last-chance decider stage, where one final spot will be on the line.

Below you can find the team distribution for the RMRs, determined by Valve's December 18 Regional Standings:

EU RMR A

EU RMR B

One of the main questions surrounding the team distribution is the fact that Falcons are seeded last in RMR A. This is because the team has only two players from the ENCE lineup as per Valve's latest Regional Standings (Marco "⁠Snappi⁠" Pfeiffer was no longer on the team when the ranking was updated). As such, the team is unranked.

Interesting

2024-01-22 10:39

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Why is Falcons at the bottom of group A Also how is faze higher ranked than vit

2024-01-22 10:43

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No idea

2024-01-22 10:44

cuz gla1ve was already there when ranking was updated for the last time so no core with snappi anymore

2024-01-22 10:48

literally says why falcons are last if u read the last bit in the article lol and yeh who knows why faze are higher than vita

2024-01-22 11:14

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lol then they shouldnt even have an invite if Snappi doesnt count

2024-01-22 11:18

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Thats just the ranking. They still have the core from the previous major

2024-01-22 11:50

Player changes during the year maybe, idk

2024-01-22 13:20

vita lost magisk, some points went lost there

2024-01-22 11:20

And dupreeh, don’t forget Vita changed 2 players since Paris.

2024-01-22 13:12

The question is why is nexus from decider higher than heroic lol

2024-01-22 11:55

Valve ranking is based primarily based on prize money and not how difficult a competition is, so FaZe winning the smaller (but high prize pool) events like CS Asia and Thunderpick gives them a higher spot than Vitality who don’t attend as many tourneys. It’s something the valve rankings have always been criticised for but they still haven’t changed it.

2024-01-22 13:05

You gotta be trolling...

2024-01-22 13:24

Because of Valve Ranking: github.com/ValveSoftware/counter-strike/..

2024-01-22 14:16

Because Valve for some reason takes prize pool earnings as a big factor when ranking their teams. Its stupis and shouldnt be heavily weighed especially for online tournaments.

2024-01-22 15:33

From one side yep, from second all big events are Partnerships so same teams over and over and they need somehow ranked small t2-3 teams that doesn’t play big events and only result is prize money but if u ranked small teams by prize money it’s makes sense to ranking all teams by prize money.

2024-01-26 02:27

Group Denmark (B)

they wanna make sure at least one denmark team goes thro

2024-01-22 10:42

More like making sure less danish teams are making it through... So sucky move.

2024-01-31 22:03

Amkal on lan... Will be interesting for sure

2024-01-22 21:24

Major is gunna be gooood :D

B hard group

2024-01-22 10:40

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Bro A is way harder

2024-01-22 10:56

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You only say this because SAW is in group A

2024-01-22 10:59

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there is more better teams in group A

2024-01-22 11:02

Every team in group B is better than SAW tbh

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SAW >> Nexus PERA ESTATIC PREASY

2024-01-22 11:08

Not Preasy.

2024-01-22 11:21

saw can easily get a 3-2 in their group, in group b 1 win max

2024-01-22 13:25

i hope so

2024-01-22 13:26

it all depends on seeding

2024-01-22 13:27

i want 3d max stickers NOW

2024-01-22 10:41

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2024-01-22 10:46

I heard that if they qualify they might be bought by kcorp or someone else. But I also want 3dmax stickers

2024-01-22 12:07

can they change org after they qualify tho?

2024-01-22 12:18

Valve has only ever cared about cores(after qualling i guess all 5 players) . But any org selling after qualifying is straight up stupid. Giving away the sticker money

2024-01-22 17:56

Any buyout would obviously factor in sticker money

2024-01-23 08:15

Group b is more tough

Faze and getting the easiest group every tournament name a more iconic duo

That's because they are #1 seed for some reason, they and vitality should swap places

A is harder wtf?

2024-01-22 11:00

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Both are equally hard blud is fighting for air

How exactly? all A has is: shaky Navi Virtus "Paid by the round" Pro worst G2 in years rest are irrelevant cctv teams. Meanwhile B has all the strong teams atm and a lot of dark horses as well.

2024-01-22 11:34

Definitely not the worst G2 tho :) Paid by the round :)))))))

2024-01-22 12:00

G2 still a solid team, navi better team than anybody in B other than vitality VP are a good team and falcons are just better ence. Idk about astralis, c9 without awp?

2024-01-22 12:56

I think you are overrating Navi by about a mile. Navi is mediocre at best this moment.

2024-01-22 21:48

they are still better than mouz, monte, spirit and c9 astralis can be better, we didnt see them play that much

2024-01-22 22:14

how? :D

2024-01-22 11:36

Ez for xanti and woxic

why Valve havent updated their rankings to reseed the teams before the RMR? whats the point of using 2 months old rankings for the event?

Its actually 1 month and there arent played notable matches in this time

2024-01-22 11:04

current ranking is 1 months old, so 2 months before the event. lots of matches in qualis have been played and blast will be played this week.

2024-01-22 11:06

teams need time to prep and Valve couldn't care less about BLAST

2024-01-22 12:10

what? they can update the rankings today. and its mostly about qualis and not blast

2024-01-22 12:24

GL NEXUS

Group A more stacked no?

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Group A is Faze g2 VP Navi + CCT partnered teams

2024-01-22 10:45

+1. group B more stacked than A

2024-01-22 10:47

+ fnatic, falcons, EF (turks say they are tier 1) vs Vitality, c9, spirit, Astralis and Monte

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maybe not tier 1 but EF have been playing really good lately

2024-01-22 10:51

and Heroic, Mouz and always dangerous ex BNE

2024-01-22 10:57

dont disrespect tier1 teams by writing fnatic with them

We don't know Falcons, but if they're in then Heroic too... You've forgot Mouz for some reason and if you put EF in there then Guild should also be there.

2024-01-22 11:23

mouz without frozen - tier2, honeymoon phase with brollan already finished, check closed rmr results

2024-01-22 11:30

Yeah never happened a team underperforming in a mahir phase and then going 3-0 on the next one, lol. Mouz is still tier1 and top 10 team until proven otherwise.

2024-01-22 11:42

Pretty balanced imo

2024-01-22 10:52

Is this also the seeding order ? If yes , Nexus vs Astralis first game inb4 Xellow vs device

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i don't understand the seeding order, astralis are top15, nexus are top 93, shouldn't nexus play the highest ranking team in that group which is vitality?

No, it's 1v9 2v10 etc

But its only for first round its so stupid

there's really no logic behind that

2024-01-22 16:06

They changed it, now it's 1 vs 9, seed 2 vs 10 , ..., 8 vs 16

2024-01-22 10:49

Don't use hltv rankings for reasoning, as no TO uses it.

2024-01-22 21:49

i used valve ranking

2024-01-22 21:51

This is ordered by hltv ranking, while seeding uses Valve rankings, so it's gonna be different. That being said, I don't think it's going to be too different

It's not hltv ranking, it's valve ranking, it says right there in the article man. "Below you can find the team distribution for the RMRs, determined by Valve's December 18 Regional Standings:"

2024-01-22 11:53

Yes, what you're talking about is the distribution between the 2 groups, which was already made official and is ofc based on the Valve rankings. What OP was asking about, is whether the order the teams were listed in in this article, was the seeding for the R1 and R2 swiss games. To which I replied no, because the teams are listed in order of HLTV rankings in this article, yet the seeding will be based on the Valve rankings, which is/will be slightly different

2024-01-22 12:25

They are not ordered by hltv ranking, as nexus(#181 at the time of publishing) is sat above heroic(#49). edit: also Ecstatic over Pera and OG, also Preasy and Spirit not following the order. Maybe they used today's updated rankings in advance, otherwise I think we can assume this is the seeding.

2024-01-22 12:32

Hmmm, looks like ur right

2024-01-22 13:01

Correct, Astralis will play vs Nexus. Here are the matchups announced for both groups: RMR A: FaZe vs 9 Pandas VP vs SAW NAVI vs KOI G2 vs ITB EF vs NIP AMKAL vs Ex-Thunderflash BetBoom vs fnatic 3DMAX vs Falcons RMR B: Vitality vs GL MOUZ vs Guild Eagles Spirit vs Ence Monte vs Ecstasic C9 vs PERA APEKS vs OG Astralia vs Nexus Preasy vs Heroic

2024-01-22 10:55

joke

well I got a different team distribution either Valve's rulebook is poorly written or someone from PGL made a mistake

this seems unbalanced tbh, group A seems much stronger

I think A has better top teams, and after that its just a wild west with who qualifies. But A has better all around which makes it harder for the favourites I think.

2024-01-22 10:54

I feel like A has more teams that are on the upswing while B has lots of potential contenders who are however very shaky right now

B it has, besides Vita, 10 teams which can qualify.. depending on their form, obviously. On the other hand, on A, there are 4 or 5 top dogs and 4 dark horses ..

Yes sorry I meant that B has better all around

So many bad teams. With cs2 and s1mple break Cs competive level become shit

The level of competition is not looking great with all roster changes but how is this any worse than 2021 when navi had no competition and we had g2 who played in grand final of cologne and stokholm major having no dedicated awper and jackz, vitality had kyojin, washed af rpk and misuta. And these teams were among top 5

2024-01-22 11:12

vitality had kyojin, washed af rpk and misuta. And these teams were among top 5 crazy to think this

2024-01-22 13:46

A is gonna be rough.

B looks more stacked tbh

Group A is a joke compared to Group B, what is this

2024-01-22 11:11

Nexus clears🥱

kekw ... bro nexus are 181th i think they are by far the lowest rank in rmr .. if they win 1 game they will be top 50 100% just from that lmfao

2024-01-29 12:02

Considering how many people in this thread said either A id more stacked or B is meoe stacked and noone agrees with the other id say the groups are pretty balanced

Groups are balanced. But the 3 weakest teams (ecstatic, pera and nexus) are in group B. Also group B have more teams we're yet to know how they really are after break (Monte, Gamerlegion, Ence, Apeks).

2024-01-22 11:28

Easy group for Vitality as always.

2024-01-22 11:26

RMR b is literally harder lmao

2024-01-22 11:47

#67

2024-01-22 12:02

Vita>Faze Mouz>VP Spirit>NAVI Monte=G2 C9 and Astralis>>rest of Group A combined

2024-01-22 12:06

Monte=G2 = 0/8 + meds

2024-01-22 13:15

hltv.org/ranking/teams/2024/january/15 Seems like they are=

Group B is a joke.

2024-01-22 11:29

So there is no diffrence beetwen 3-0 and 2-3? Nice system

I just hope that spirit doesn't make it

2024-01-22 11:41

A is stacked

2024-01-22 11:51

Group B looks spicy.

Who makes this groups? Group A way harder Teams in top 30, Gr.A - 11teams | Gr.B - 8 teams Teams in top 10 Gr.A [5] | Gr.B [4] Teams in 11-20 Gr.A [2] | Gr.B [3] Teams in 21- 30 Gr.A [4] | Gr.B [0] And yes i Know teams like Heroic or Ence are out of top 30 in the moment, but you can't say that Group B is harder.

A is slightly easier but i have a question Is the match ups based of seedings? In this case is FaZe going to play against Falcons in their first match?:)

2024-01-22 12:05

you know the groups are balanced when people say both groups are either stacked or a joke

2024-01-22 12:14

2024-01-22 15:32

So many swedish teams

2024-01-22 12:22

please, stop using valve seeding for closed/RMRs i guess major spots are distributed by valve ranking aswell, so falcons will go to contenders stage even if they qualify 3-0

2024-01-22 12:28

faze and easy groups name more iconic duo

2024-01-22 12:30

A > B bro

2024-01-22 12:46

Any idea why nexus is better seeded then heroic when they qualified through last chance while heroic in the main Swiss? Not sure the win vs big counted that much or what is going on

2024-01-22 12:39

Valve ranking. Nexus is #133 but this Heroic lineup is not ranked yet...

2024-01-22 16:59

A is looking stacked, will be hard for any of the lower ranked teams unless they find 5th gear

2024-01-22 12:50

That was my first impression, but A isnt as stacked as it looks. I think its because our brains link teams like NIP/fnatic to T1 CS. I'd say the top top teams will make it through as expected, the rest will be a huge battle. Group B as more "good teams" but also has the weakest teams.

2024-01-22 13:06