seized: "It's really bad that we are playing a qualifier for the first CS2 Major on bad PCs"

The Russian veteran was critical of the playing conditions at the Romanian tournament.

"We don't have a life at all," seized said about their RMR preparation

Update 20:36 : PGL have reached out to HLTV and shared their computers have AMD Ryzen 9 5950X processors and Nvidia RTX 4080 16GB graphic cards, with 360Hz monitors supplied by Zowie.


9 Pandas finished 2023 with a title at PARI Please 2023 in Belgrade to put themselves on the world map and received an invitation to the RMR Closed Qualifier due to rising in the Valve ranking.

Denis "⁠seized⁠" Kostin and company traversed the online event with a 3-2 record to qualify for the LAN event in Bucharest, where they met FaZe in the first round. While they were no match for the European combine, they bounced back with a dominant win against SAW to finish day one with a 1-1 record.

After the win, seized talked to HLTV and gave a few quick comments on their games in Romania so far, his joy for LAN tournaments, and joined several players in expressing his dissatisfaction with the playing conditions.

If you do not see the SoundCloud embed above, you can listen to the full interview here.


Congrats on making it to 1-1 after the first day. How did everything feel for you today?

1-1 is okay for us. It's really important in these kinds of qualifiers to have at least a 1-1 record after the first day. We have one more shot at best-of-ones. We started the same in the closed qualifier, won the first game and lost to NAVI, which gave us a lot of information. I think the game against FaZe is going to give us some information too. Everything is optimal and okay.

Talking about the game against FaZe, you probably didn't expect to win because they are the number-one team in the world. Were you able to take anything positive from the loss?

We came into this game with the mentality that if we lost it is okay, but everyone on the team knew we could beat them because it's best-of-one. We had a pretty good first half, we got six rounds as T side, and sometimes it is hard to get even three or four. We won pistol and rolled some rounds, our plan was good, but on CT we fucked up a little bit and didn't win a single round.

The end result was okay, we went into the 0-1 pool and we just wanted to play the next game, nothing special. You can end this qualifier in two ways, you qualify for the Major or you don't, but you can do that in different ways. You can even go 2-3 and go to the Last Chance Qualifier. So we are taking it game by game, we have our goal, and we're following that.

About the final game against SAW. You guys were super loud and hyped, do you feel like a LAN team?

It feels nice to play on LAN because you have zero ping. Ping makes a massive difference in this game, and it's a completely different story if you have 40 or zero. But we have really bad PCs on this LAN, some players needed to change settings, resolution, and monitors, as I did, and I think I'm not alone. For me, it's really bad that we are playing a qualifier for the first CS2 Major on bad PCs.

I talked to you in Belgrade a few months ago, and you said you want to make the first CS2 Major. What would achieving that goal mean to you?

It means everything to me right now. We don't have a life at all, we are just playing the game and sleeping, sometimes not even getting enough sleep. We did two bootcamps already this year for the Closed Qualifier and now for RMR, so I'm hoping our hard work will pay off in the end.

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#1
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Korea jin67300
ok
2024-02-14 19:31
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Just play the qualifiers in 1.6, im sure there are custom maps replicating anubis, ancient, etc
2024-02-14 19:38
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+1
2024-02-14 19:39
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Based
2024-02-14 20:06
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#2
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Russia Dedaireks
oh well
2024-02-14 19:32
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6 replies
The first 2 comments have to be bots, "ok" "oh well" wtf is this garbage
2024-02-14 20:12
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5 replies
NATUS_S1MPLERE
2024-02-14 20:59
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jahasfshahjja
2024-02-15 01:30
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#137
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China RADNIKEY
You mean what has been happening on news articles for over 5 years? The difference is that usually people edit it after their F5'ing
2024-02-15 07:10
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Well one of them surely is a NPC, cuz he's russian.
2024-02-15 08:00
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1 reply
Whoa, ayo?
2024-02-15 08:21
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Classic PGL production tho
2024-02-14 19:32
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15 replies
yes haha, PGL Major Krakow 2017 was played with Intel i5 processors
2024-02-14 19:40
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14 replies
#25
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Romania Nickname90
shows how you don't understand how processors works, in intel the generation is important not if it's i5 or i7 or i9, for gaming i5 14th generation is the best.
2024-02-14 19:42
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So why you have more fps when you are playing with an i7 than an i5? and all players complained at the time that they were not playing close to 300 fps
2024-02-14 19:52
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Back in 2017 i9 didn't exist and i5 was best for gaming. Man is speaking truth but with outdated truth. Ok i9 came 2017. But the PC specs must have surely been planned on safe (proven to work very will) hardware. So the PGL Krakow specs was probably planned early 2017 or something.
2024-02-14 20:17
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Yes and no, i7's had substantially higher single core perf especially in 2017 when Intels segmentation fetish was still in high gear (but not as bad as pre kaby lake off course). Would it matter realistically in 2017? No probably not. Is it still sub par? Absolutely even for 2017. They should be rocking low latency DDR4 and the highest spec i7 you could get at the time IMO. For the biggest tournament of the year. Today you can easily get away with a 7600X for CS so there's no excuse with shitty PC's in 2024.
2024-02-14 20:53
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i5 vs i7 in gaming could be like 2-5 % fps diff vs 50 % cost
2024-02-14 20:30
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2 replies
they were playing with 150-230 fps
2024-02-14 21:04
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#97
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
In gaming is 100% relative. The Source engine is CPU dependent, so your GPU matters way less than CPU. There was always a difference in performance between i5 and i7, whereas in other titles it wasn't noticeable.
2024-02-14 21:33
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#48
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Moldova salkoay
keep lying to yourself bro
2024-02-14 19:57
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#50
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Romania Nickname90
??? how if we talk about intel cpu's in gaming i5 high generations are the most stable youtube.com/watch?v=nhlhA9AnT_s
2024-02-14 20:01
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#53
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Moldova salkoay
#49 is right even though he is aggressive for no reason
2024-02-14 20:03
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#54
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Romania Nickname90
nevermind, i thought we can have a conversation but oh well, keep buying i9's for gaming xD
2024-02-14 20:03
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he is right , most of i7 cpu's has much cores than what is needed to play games , i5 is more suitable for gaming
2024-02-14 20:41
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yes becouse you poor kid and cannot buy i9, i play on i9 14900K and your i5 just sucks
2024-02-14 20:01
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Iirc they used 8th gen Intel CPUs? The mistake was to use i5-8400 (6c 6t, 2.8 Ghz) instead of i5-8600k (6c 6c, 3.6 Ghz) or i7-8700k (6c, 12t, 3.7 Ghz). 6 cores 6 threads was more than enough for CS:GO at that time, but higher frequency was required for higher FPS.
2024-02-14 20:23
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#5
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Norway HatoV
I dont think bro realised the fps is horrible for everyone
2024-02-14 19:33
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1 reply
+1 perhaps they should cry about bad optimization of CS2 rather than bad PCs, although I doubt valve gives a single fuck about it anyway.
2024-02-14 20:25
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#6
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United Kingdom JoshVanAlden
good pc's would mean good audio and pgl dont do good audio
2024-02-14 19:34
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what are the specs i would like to know first
2024-02-14 19:36
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4 replies
+1
2024-02-14 19:44
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#74
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Norway HatoV
If they didnt upgrade them yet then they have those PCs with 5950s but not sure about the gpu but the gpu wont matter as much
2024-02-14 20:43
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2 replies
#95
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Norway HatoV
Ye so they apparently have 5950x and 4060s
2024-02-14 21:08
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5950 + 4060 is fine bluf jst whaffling
2024-02-14 22:20
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cry more
2024-02-14 19:38
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2 replies
cry like ropz?
2024-02-14 19:40
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1 reply
if you are in nr1 team in the world then you can say what you dont like and what you like, its not crying
2024-02-15 04:49
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unfortunately all the good PCs have already been stolen over there
2024-02-14 19:38
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expected lul
2024-02-14 19:38
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#18
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Netherlands geek3D
cry is free
2024-02-14 19:40
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1 reply
Lmao he aint crying, he said this after a 13-1 win. I feel like you gotta work at PGL lmao
2024-02-14 20:04
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wont qualify anyway
2024-02-14 19:40
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yet valulrant tournament players are on constant 600fps cs bros....
2024-02-14 19:40
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1 reply
the game is roblox quality graphics
2024-02-14 20:57
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#23
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France GenG_Fan
CS esports in 2024, best of 1 mr12 with potato pc hahaha
2024-02-14 19:41
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3 replies
For 4 million in sticker money most important tournament of the year too not just some mickey mouse cup
2024-02-14 19:45
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2 replies
#68
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
North America wyan0726
How do you know it’s 4 million? I seen this number thrown around but how do we know that
2024-02-14 20:28
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Nobody knows yet because the stickers havent been sold yet xd
2024-02-14 20:51
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what PCs they has lmao Ryzen 1600 and RTX 3060 ? WTF PGL, get guys atleast Ryzen 7*** and 4080
2024-02-14 19:41
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#26
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Romania Nickname90
i heard they have ryzen 7 5800x but it's not confirmed.
2024-02-14 19:43
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18 replies
well, this is quite ok if they has good GPU
2024-02-14 19:44
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#33
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Romania Nickname90
that's why i'm wondering aswell, that cpu + a decent gpu like 4060 is more than enough for cs2 to run constantly at 300fps, maybe dropping in smokes but that's more of a cs2 optimisation fault not the pc, you get -40% of fps with i5 14700k + rtx 4090 so the smokes are fked.
2024-02-14 19:45
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No it's not enough. The game will run 300 fps at most times but your 0.1% and 1% lows will not be smooth and if you're playing with a 240hz/360hz which they are makes a big difference. CS2 has awful frametimes.
2024-02-14 19:49
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#39
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Romania Nickname90
fair enough i didn't know they play on 360hz monitors, i thought those are 240hz ones
2024-02-14 19:51
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No it's not ok. CS2 needs at least 7800x3d and 4070 ti+ gpu if you want the game to run smoothly at all times at most graphical settings.
2024-02-14 19:48
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he said Fps drops to 130 sometimes wich means they has way worse GPU than even normal 4070
2024-02-14 19:56
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In that case that's terrible.
2024-02-14 20:01
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bs budget pc can run this shit at 250-300 fps constantly , i had to cap my game at 350 bcuz otherwise it would go 500+ and there's not need for that on a i7 13thgen and 3070 with settings on high
2024-02-14 20:56
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Now go check your 0.1% and 1% lows and tell me how they barely get over 140 fps resulting in the game feeling like 60 hz.
2024-02-14 20:58
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nah 5800x not good enough in CS2, they have 360 hz monitors. 5800X3D would be fine probably, but major qualis you probably want the best of the best..
2024-02-14 20:31
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its probably wont be enough to have consistent 360+ fps for 360hz monitors but dude says he has drops to 130 fps wich mean they has worse hardware
2024-02-14 20:33
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Nah... I have 5600x+4070Ti and I drop to 130 fps too, but not in actual games, just in DM. Anyway it doesn't matter because under 300 fps it's unplayable for me, so I quit
2024-02-14 20:47
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idk what setting u use, i have i5 14600KF 5.3 GHz and RTX 4070, never seen drops lower than 200 fps
2024-02-14 20:49
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5 replies
is it ok to play with low framerates? I'm using ryzen 7 7800x3d and my 1% are not going lower than 300 fps.
2024-02-14 21:04
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normally i have 350-400 fps avarage on this pc so i dont care no problems at all im just wonder what PCs they has on RMR if they had drops to 130 fps
2024-02-14 21:09
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They have shiity pcs. Something like i5-11400f that is worse than current gen i3-12100f in terms of FPS in cs2.
2024-02-15 13:13
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I used to have i3-13100 and especially on ancient I had drops down to 120 fps or so Unplayable haha
2024-02-21 18:01
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14600KF is much faster bro
2024-02-14 21:46
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Classic crybaby seized. Grow up.
2024-02-14 19:47
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donk will still be 2 rated
2024-02-14 19:47
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#41
Jame | 
Poland cajero
CCT major when?
2024-02-14 19:51
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I was here before all Romanians came to defend PGL
2024-02-14 19:52
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*I was here before Romanians stole all PGL pc's
2024-02-14 19:54
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1 reply
PGL is a romanian organization so…
2024-02-14 21:04
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#44
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Germany AndSoItWas
"bad PC's" - then give us the specs instead of talking shit.
2024-02-14 19:56
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3 replies
It's PGL, I dont doubt him at all. And his team won 13-1 in their second game. Dont think he would be complaining after a 13-1 win if there wasnt truth to this.
2024-02-14 20:03
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The PCs will have enough power to play cs smoothly
2024-02-14 21:00
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#87
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Russia 50sacinmysocidgaf
they have like 200 avg fps on these computers, the specs are unknown
2024-02-14 21:01
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#45
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Russia KopHuLLloH
Any other host and I'd laugh at seized for being seized, would say it's a skill issue or smth... But this is PGL we are talking about here and I'm baffled by the fact they still get offers considering how atrocious their production ALWAYS is...
2024-02-14 19:56
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Are we expecting anything more from PGL? When I heard they got the first major, I rolled my eyes. Cant wait for more complaints from players and cant wait for all the tech pauses in the RMR and Major! Awesome Valve!
2024-02-14 20:02
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PGL moment
2024-02-14 20:08
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PGL lmao
2024-02-14 20:14
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#67
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Yugoslavia yike$
Its romanian quality workmanship, what is he talking about
2024-02-14 20:27
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seized in 2024 lmfao
2024-02-14 20:29
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#94
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Russia 1_vs_9
respect the legend (pls)
2024-02-14 21:07
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RTX 4080 is 16gb. If it says 32gb maybe they got scammed.
2024-02-14 21:00
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#92
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Russia 1_vs_9
I bet PGL are confused as fuck in PCs and mixed up RAM count with GPU model xd I mean, who would ever buy pricier 5950x instead of 5800x3d for tournament PCs? And it's a bit embarassing they can't supply the players with the last gen CPUs
2024-02-14 21:04
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#116
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Chad 112AMBULANTA
5950x launched earlier than 5800x3d so probably they had them already even tho 5950x should run cs2 smooth af idk why they dont have last gen considering its major
2024-02-15 01:03
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#142
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Russia 1_vs_9
Then 5800x would do a better job. But it's super embarrassing to use CPU from 2020 in 2024 qualifiers for the main event of the year for CS2
2024-02-15 09:19
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#88
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Russia 1_vs_9
Using 5950X for cs is plain stupid. Even the cheaper 5800x3d is better
2024-02-14 21:01
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Plain stupid and completly enough for 360hz monitor.
2024-02-14 21:42
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#105
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Russia 1_vs_9
it's not enough bro
2024-02-14 21:51
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5 replies
I have 540hz with 5950 and have really stable +500 fps.
2024-02-14 21:54
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#143
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Russia 1_vs_9
Playing 800x600? On silver elite where no one uses smokes? You see, a lot of pros are complaining, some are forced to change their video settings mid-tournament. Unacceptable.
2024-02-15 09:21
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Lulw? Mby they should think that ultra high settings are more demanding than mid-high.
2024-02-15 12:52
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#150
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Russia 1_vs_9
They have standard (for pros) PCs at home, bootcamps. They are used to their settings. ESL and Blast don't fail to provide them PCs that run without problems. PGL is providing them subpar (again, by pros standards) PCs. Pros are forced to change video settings that they are used to. You don't see a problem here?
2024-02-15 14:17
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They are pros. Should be able to adapt. Idk how you are professional in something, and are not able to mitigate the risk of sub-perfect conditions by just playing with other than ultra-high settings. Its actually really good wakeup for some pros to start being more professional and think about different scenarios and how to mitigate the chance to being put out of comfort zone during tournaments.
2024-02-15 15:12
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It’’s bad that we are bad players…
2024-02-14 21:02
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#99
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States postwarscars
5950X for CS2 is the issue more than anything. For 99% of use cases it's a good CPU, the problem is CS2 is that 1% edge case where you actually want the newest, top-end CPUs.
2024-02-14 21:37
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AMD Ryzen 9 5950X processors and Nvidia RTX 4080 16GB graphic cards, with 360Hz monitors supplied by Zowie. Mid PCs...ok
2024-02-14 21:38
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With 200 avg fps. Yes, mid PCs
2024-02-15 04:26
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Ryzen 9 5950X is the issue How can you host this without the newest tech? wtf 7800X3D! 20% more fps
2024-02-14 21:51
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I am playing CS2 on a Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX 1070 with around 70 fps. Those Ryzen 7's and 4080s should be plenty lmfaoo
2024-02-14 22:00
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it should but the game always finds new and exciting ways to run like dogshit. after last update i am getting like < 100fps sometimes after having always > 200fps no settings changed
2024-02-14 23:42
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#108
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
United States deefop
So the PC's aren't actually "bad" at all. In fact, they're quite high end. CS2 is just optimized like absolute shit. The idea that a gaming PC better than what 99% of the world has access to is "bad" for a fucking esports title is laughable. Any argument about whether it should be a 5800x3d instead, or whether it should be AM5 with a 7800x3d is moot and pointless. These PC's are still very high end and should run the game just fine. It's not the tournaments fault that the game dev doesn't bother to optimize the game. If this was a Valorant tournament you could give the players 5 year old hardware and the game would still run butter fucking smooth.
2024-02-14 22:05
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#110
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
woxic | 
Poland Avantu
+1, when people will get this. Such PCs can play every game ever released but struggles to play competitive esport CS2.
2024-02-14 23:36
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+1
2024-02-14 23:41
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Was gonna say something similar +1
2024-02-15 00:53
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I'm over here on a i7-6700 and a GTX 1070... The struggle is real
2024-02-15 01:16
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#124
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North America Rangate
High end but not the highest. You would assume this caliber of a tournament would supply players with the best hardware available.
2024-02-15 02:53
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+1
2024-02-15 05:54
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#118
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Philippines kazii_cs
Bro their equipment is enough to play CS2, I know it's not the best CPU or GPU but buddy Ryzen 5 5950x and the second best GPU, an RTX 4080. The 16GB RAM isn't too bad but it's MORE than enough
2024-02-15 01:16
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Do we know what the specs are for the computers they are using? You'd think the organizer would have that available...
2024-02-15 01:17
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5950x, rtx 4080, no mention of ram
2024-02-15 01:25
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pgl bought intel pentiums for the rmr
2024-02-15 01:33
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#133
donk | 
World dsa__
Should be SEIZED: "IT'S REALLY BAD THAT WE ARE PLAYING A QUALIFIER FOR THE FIRST CS2 MAJOR ON BAD GAME"
2024-02-15 05:22
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Whatever
2024-02-15 07:09
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h4rn is still streaming on his 5600x and 2070 setup, still grinded to top 5 eu or whatever PGL PC's are lit
2024-02-15 09:14
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i achieved overpass wingman global elite with a pc which has no cpu what is buld waffling about
2024-02-15 09:51
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how did you achieve to boot a pc without a cpu is more interesting
2024-02-15 10:02
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#146
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Romania MCMXXIV
Be graetful we didn't steal the pcs already.
2024-02-15 10:04
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#147
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Russia 1_vs_9
wtfff reported
2024-02-15 10:58
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[*] dosia's pc gaming paradise
2024-02-15 14:19
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normally i would take this golden opportunity to call seized a bot, but PGL cannot be trusted, and cs2 js badly optimized. my personal headcanon is that pgl bought cheap used mining rig parts to build their pcs because they penny pinch fucking everything
2024-02-15 14:21
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Ryzen 9 5950X indeed isnt the best cpu for gaming, would have had better fps with 5800x3d or obviously on a newest platform from amd/intel
2024-02-15 14:27
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how is a ryzen 9 5959x and 4080 a bad pc? yes 7800x3d probably better for cs but the main issue is the game. a 2500€ pc should run cs at 360fps with no loss easily.
2024-02-15 16:40
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Ryzen 9 5950X is not as good as some cheaper CPUs like 7800x3D and 5800x3D in CS2
2024-02-16 12:01
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