NertZ: "It's just a matter of time before we are one of the best teams in the world"

The Israeli star is happy with Heroic's improvement.

HEROIC got their international era off to a solid start at IEM Katowice, where they narrowly missed out on the playoffs. That gave them a solid platform ahead of the European RMR, where they looked to continue their good form.

They would go on to qualify as the last team with a 3-2 record, but their losses came against two heavyweights in Spirit and Vitality. The team avoided upsets and got the job done with a 2-0 win over GamerLegion in the final round of the tournament to book their PGL Major Copenhagen spot.

After their win against Janusz "⁠Snax⁠" Pogorzelski and company, Guy "⁠NertZ⁠" Iluz talked to HLTV about their RMR campaign, his adaptation to a new team, and HEROIC's expectations for the Major.


You're the final 3-2 team to qualify. Walk me through your feelings right now.

Couldn't be worse. [laughs] No, I'm joking, it is an amazing feeling. It is my dream to be in the Major. This was the most important tournament of the year for me and of course for everyone else, and we are feeling super happy.

How much of a relief is it for you to avoid the Last Chance Qualifier?

Before we came to the game, I checked the teams, and there are a lot of quite good teams, it's not a nice feeling to be there. I feel so relieved that we are right here after our win, so I'm feeling good.

I wanted to ask about the game against GamerLegion. Overpass was pretty straightforward, but Mirage was very close. How was your heart rate during Mirage after you won so many eco and close rounds?

I think they had good reads on what we were doing. They had a good anti-strat on Mirage, and it took time for us to realize what they were doing. After a couple of rounds, we knew what we needed to do.

And on the CT side, I think they really changed everything, which surprised me. In the second round, they should have been eco, but they bought a hero AK, which changed the whole game. We won one round, and then they won one after we did, so it was a money reset every time, but we survived this reset.

You only lost to Vitality and Spirit here. Are you happy with your overall performance?

Not really. I want to win against these teams consistently, but I'm happy we are improving from game to game. We learn a lot from these kinds of games against the best teams in the world, and it's just a matter of time before we will be one of the best teams in the world.

You're pretty much a completely new team. How have you adapted to a new system?

It's [tough] for everyone, but for me, it's not tough anymore. I understand what my responsibilities are, and I feel like we are starting to click at the moment. It will take a bit more time to be at 100% together and understand what everyone does.

Do you think this process is a bit easier because you brought sAw with you from ENCE?

For sure, he made the process easier. As you see from tournament to tournament, we are improving, and he is a big part of why we are improving. He has a couple of ideas on how we need to improve as a team, and I feel comfortable that we can show it in the next tournament.

And just a final question. What are your goals for the Major?

I didn't think about it yet, because I needed to focus on these games. But if I can think right now, very fast, I would say the playoffs. For me, it would be an insane achievement.

Poland Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
2428
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
Israel Guy 'NertZ' Iluz
Guy 'NertZ' Iluz
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
506
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
Let's hope so
2024-02-22 22:33
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xdddddd
2024-02-22 22:34
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#97
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Germany Sol1taire
heroic WILL be 1 of the best teams in the world. He's right
2024-02-23 19:06
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#98
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Europe YkZz
It's just a matter of time
2024-02-24 00:14
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#5
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Latvia MikeOHearnNo1
I am not sure about this Heroic...
2024-02-22 22:34
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It's def possible They only lost to top teams And a close bo3 against spirit. Give it a few months and they'll be pretty damn good.
2024-02-22 22:38
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nicoodoz to me doesnt have the potential for the team to be that good
2024-02-22 23:16
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#57
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World epixeltwin
Exactly with any good Awper this is a banger roster but he is by far most sus and inconsistent in there
2024-02-23 04:07
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he's fine with the AK on T side but he's pretty much the oSee of this team when it comes to overpass/mirage
2024-02-23 08:36
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Most snus
2024-02-23 08:43
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#100
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Germany Sol1taire
you thought astralis with jabbi, stauvn, device were gods... sjush nertz, kyxsan, are better players
2024-02-24 10:08
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#6
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Russia Delicadeza
if nicoodoz keeps playing like he is then Heroic have 1 of the best fragging IGL in the scene, best star rifles and above average awp with 2 solid experienced players in teses and sjuuush. I believe they are title challenging team forsure. GOAT NERTZ
2024-02-22 22:35
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#11
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France zxcjn
if they would change nicodooz to some young talent, it would be actually title contender
2024-02-22 22:38
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#13
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Russia Delicadeza
I have been critical of nicoodoz for long time. At times probably enough critic that I was hater but he has been playing really good under kyxsan and right now I see no reason to change this.
2024-02-22 22:39
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#14
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France zxcjn
idk... sometime he is making good decisions, some clutches but i think its not it
2024-02-22 22:40
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#18
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Russia Delicadeza
If hes on the server against AWP that can take over games (M0nesy, sh1ro, zywoo) then I can see him being abit more heavy on the team when it come to winning but I also think he can be intelligent player and doesnt go missing when he needs to rifle for example. Also I have no reason to hate on anyone in the team as I love kyxsan and nertz.
2024-02-22 22:42
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why would anyone love kyxsan
2024-02-22 23:18
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#37
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Russia Delicadeza
IFKYK 🐐 .
2024-02-22 23:21
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aint noone who knows
2024-02-22 23:25
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why would you hate him is the question. Great IGL, can frag, make good calls, hype up the team, some fun little trash talking. Checks most the boxes for me
2024-02-23 08:37
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#81
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Russia Delicadeza
+1
2024-02-23 11:25
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He is still really inconsistent, I think they should gamble on some young danish talent, saw and kyxsan can help develop him into a good awper although idk of any young danish awper rn (apart from that mouz nxt guy that stood in but hes awp + igl)
2024-02-23 03:36
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he is around 1 rating awper, how is that good?
2024-02-23 11:31
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#83
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Russia Delicadeza
hltv.org/stats/players/matches/13602/nic.. Since cs2 transition. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/13602/nic.. Since rejoin Heroic (2024) Why do you not even try to figure out what any of the numbers mean?
2024-02-23 11:34
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hltv.org/stats/players/13602/nicoodoz?ev.. hltv.org/stats/players/13602/nicoodoz?ev.. ? cool that he can play good in online qualifiers tho!
2024-02-23 13:05
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#93
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Russia Delicadeza
🐐nicodooz
2024-02-23 13:09
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#7
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England naDalous
XAXAXAXAXAXAXAX
2024-02-22 22:35
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xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2024-02-22 22:35
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With a stronger awper it's actually likely
2024-02-22 22:36
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Luxembourg 2000
Heroic got great tactics no doubt but somehow they choke like G2 Esports, I'd say put nicodooz on riffle and get better AWPer.
2024-02-22 22:40
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#17
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France zxcjn
or completly remove nicodooz after the major, if device would be in form i would say +device makes sense
2024-02-22 22:42
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#19
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Luxembourg 2000
Astralis would never let go device and there is no way Heroic can afford players like dev1ce.
2024-02-22 22:43
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#20
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France zxcjn
if device wants to leave then astralis has nothing to talk, i wonder what price it would be
2024-02-22 22:44
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#25
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Luxembourg 2000
It doesn't make sense with device leaving Astralis again i know there is alot of Danish young talents out there but i still think they're gonna stick to this roster and it wouldn't make sense to remove their best player blameF who is "In-Game-Leader" for Astralis. Edit: Knowing when NIP bought dev1ce from Astralis when the main core got shuffled to different teams, The buyout was massive and i dont think Heroic is a org that would pay that much.
2024-02-22 22:49
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They did get a lot of money from selling jabbi + stavn + cadian, and they have gambling sponsor money on top so they could afford it. Whether they will actually pay that much is another question, but its definitely in the realm of possibility although I don't think they should get device personally as device is 28 now and who knows how many years he has left in him at this point, and the last few tournaments haven't exactly looked good for him either but that could also be the astralis effect similar to how NIP ruined careers of players who were promising
2024-02-23 03:41
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What gambling sponsor?
2024-02-23 05:37
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blud heroic just scammed astralis 2m for stabbi, they can just spent 500k-1m for devve, he's close to 30 already so nothing higher than that
2024-02-23 08:39
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Netherlands p2dr
Sure dude
2024-02-22 22:41
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#16
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Russia KopHuLLloH
copium
2024-02-22 22:41
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Never with that roster
2024-02-22 22:45
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why jinx it tho, now you go 0-3
2024-02-22 22:46
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#28
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Czech Republic Solace_
matter of 5 years maybe
2024-02-22 22:54
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I am glad you went to Copenhagen major over Astralis, but let's not get delusional. No team with nicoobotz on awp can be top tier.
2024-02-22 22:55
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#30
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Ukraine StaNiUA
Top3 lurker in the world, of course he wanna be at top as a team
2024-02-22 22:55
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top 5 maybe is more precise. ropz, spinx and hunter look like better lurkers for me. hunter arguable with his recent form going down
2024-02-23 08:43
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#90
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Ukraine StaNiUA
Yeah, it's subjectively. No way hunter in top 5 for me, but for you yes. At least we agree that Spinx and ropz for sure at top
2024-02-23 12:11
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I think it's too early to count him out, he was very good for 2023.
2024-02-23 12:41
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xdddddddd
2024-02-22 23:01
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Not with nicoodoz unfortunately
2024-02-22 23:02
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If heroic had world class sniper like dev1ce then maybe
2024-02-22 23:21
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#40
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Canada swagcrazy
honestly shocked heroic somehow lost cadian jabbi and stavn and made it out okay nertz + kyxsan was good
2024-02-22 23:37
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kyxsan is def a future superstar, he got the potential to lead the team.
2024-02-23 09:32
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With Nicodoz? I don't think so ...
2024-02-22 23:39
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Now now, let's not get all cocky here lil boy, alright?
2024-02-22 23:59
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With nicodoz? Never loo
2024-02-23 00:16
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#44
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Sweden skorpan
U already are! (Y)
2024-02-23 00:34
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Delusional
2024-02-23 00:48
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#47
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Romania faithON
meds plz
2024-02-23 01:20
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#48
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Argentina Deliburd
It doesn't give them fuel. Times have changed and Heroic is a quiet top 10 player today. The only good thing is that Stabbi are already at the airport. Nice Karma.
2024-02-23 01:38
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kinda delusional
2024-02-23 02:09
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kyxsan 100% has the potential to be the gla1ve/karrigan of the new generation of CS players
2024-02-23 02:11
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you might be right, he's got a good spirit
2024-02-23 08:18
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I believe in this too, he def has the potential, and much experience in the future to be the igl of an international team.
2024-02-23 09:37
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full time yapper
2024-02-23 02:31
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#58
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Russia Thf_hwan
I already heard that somewhere... Oh yeah, million times.
2024-02-23 05:03
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Ok.
2024-02-23 07:00
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Tbf I expected way less from them, very short span of time too
2024-02-23 08:45
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#70
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Belgium gilisen
What does Nico do ? Nicodoz
2024-02-23 09:04
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#71
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Europe Klobby
Calma
2024-02-23 09:08
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#72
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Europe moki!
I appreciate the confidence, but it's such a delusional take lmao Best of luck to him, but I think he won't reach his goal with this roster, prove me wrong I guess :)
2024-02-23 09:14
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#76
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siuhy | 
Poland makut0N
with nicodoz in team they are not even close to top5
2024-02-23 09:55
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#79
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United Kingdom kennyvenom
He's a very good player, all of them have crisp aim. Made easy work of Astralis purely on aim.
2024-02-23 10:32
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lol
2024-02-23 11:25
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Kappa
2024-02-23 11:41
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if they change nicoodoz to a degster type awper there is a conversation
2024-02-23 11:47
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#94
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Finland la_costena
Saw achieved great results on Ence with Snappi and other newcomers to T1. I dont see why they cant achieve same results on heroic. The best in the world? Maybe, maybe not.
2024-02-23 13:37
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hahahahahahahahaha ofc
2024-02-23 18:22
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That's a joke
2024-02-24 06:08
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