dexter: "I don't think people really believed in me in fnatic"

dexter talks about his European journey, return to Grayhound, and state of the Oceanic scene ahead of the start of the Asia RMR.

After a three-year stint competing in Europe with MOUZ and fnatic, Christopher "⁠dexter⁠" Nong has returned to Oceania as he rejoined Grayhound in December, just in time for the PGL CS2 Major Copenhagen qualifiers.

Upon their old in-game leader's return the Australian team's dominion over the local scene has seemingly only become more pronounced, and Grayhound now head into the Asia RMR with a 21-1 match and 35-2 map record in 2024.

Ahead of the start of the competition in Shanghai, which will see the new lineup debut on LAN among the likes of The MongolZ, Lynn Vision, and TYLOO in a fight for two spots in Copenhagen, HLTV spoke with dexter about the end of his European journey and return to Oceania.

Date Matches
PGL CS2 Major Copenhagen 2024 Asia RMR
26/02/2024
03:55
Match

We're at the Asia RMR in Shanghai, your first LAN event after joining Grayhound. You have a streak of 23 maps won online — were you looking forward to show yourself on LAN?

Yeah, I'm definitely always looking forward to play on LAN, it's usually way more fun. Just excited to be here.

Before we go into the RMR I wanted to ask you about your European journey. Before ultimately returning to Grayhound you played for MOUZ and fnatic. Why didn't it work out?

There are a lot of answers for that, I'd probably need a two-hour podcast. For MOUZ things just didn't work out, they needed a change, we needed a change. After two and a half years, we got good results, got bad results, and we just wanted to go in different directions. That's totally fine. fnatic, I just don't think the people really believed in me. I didn't really get a chance to prove how to play, and that's just how it went. That's why I wanted to go to Grayhound in the end.

You spent in MOUZ and fnatic a total of almost three years. What was the most important thing you learned from playing in Europe?

I learned lots, but probably how to talk to people, deal with other people and be a better leader and all that kind of stuff, depending on the team as well. Definitely that, just trying to be a better person as well as possible for the younger players and whatnot.

Overall, do you think this was the right path for you given you're back in Australia. How does it compare with, say, investing all this time into an Australian project instead?

I think it's really good because I really wanted, at the end of fnatic, to push an Australian team. We haven't really done any bootcamps or anything like that in Europe, so we're waiting for that opportunity. But it's just much nicer playing here because people don't really argue with everything you have to say, it makes progress and all those kinds of things much easier and faster.

Speaking of Australians in EU teams, jks is now on the bench in G2. Would you want to play with him in an Australian lineup one day?

Yeah. I would like to play with Justin at some point, but right now I'm pretty happy with everything and how we're progressing as a team. No matter what I'd love to play with him, but for now we're all just happy.

Do you have any thoughts on jks' situation with G2?

Not really. I know they said they needed someone to talk more and whatnot, but there are positives and negatives to all those kinds of things. If they wanted a person that talks more, then they take more space and that takes up space for things to be done from other players. I don't really know how the dynamics work there, so we'll have to wait and see how they play for future comps.

How would you describe the state of the Oceanic scene? Is there plenty of new talent brewing, or is it at a lower point?

There's definitely a lot more talent in Australian, but right now I don't think there's too much experience with how to play, how to conduct yourself. You definitely see when other Australian teams compete overseas that sometimes it's a bit lacklustre.

What do you think the Oceanic scene needs to thrive? Is it more international events, more local events, more teams with salaries, or is it just time?

Probably all of those things, but probably good leadership. That's how you get good teams. A lot of the players right now in leadership positions are pretty inexperienced and it kinda shows how the team progresses, so that's definitely needed.

Is good leadership something you're keen to bring to the Australian scene with your comeback?

I'm definitely keen to bring it to my team, but I don't know about bringing it to the other teams (laughs). Maybe they can learn some stuff, which I know some people are really keen on learning, which is really good, but I know some other teams are not so eager to learn those types of things. But yeah, it's definitely needed and, hopefully, by being a better team in Australia we can push everyone else to try a lot harder.

Back to the Asia RMR. Two teams were replaced before the event started. Visa issues were cited, but there were suspicions that one of the teams might have cheated their way in and then decided not to play. What are your thoughts on that?

I have zero thoughts because I don't really know any of them, I don't know the teams, I don't really care. I just need to come here and win, and that's really it. I don't really care about those kinds of teams.

You're coming to this event with a win streak of 23 maps against Australian teams. What do you make of your performance? Do you feel like you have clicked?

I think we have clicked but still not yet, there's still a lot of work to do with structuring our team and how to work in different ways. We haven't boot camped yet in Europe, so there's a lot of work to do, still. It'll take only small things to make us lose right now, so that's something I'm trying to fix.

At this RMR the field looks very competitive with four favorites fighting for two spots. Given how much is at stake, is there more excitement or stress from the expectations from this event?

There's definitely always going to be stress trying to compete for a [Major] spot, but overall we're trying to keep calm no matter what. There's only so much you can do, but yeah, it's definitely a lot better event than the previous ones.

Besides your team, which team do you think is most likely to take the spot at the Major?

Probably TheMongolz.

Last question. Now that you're back in Australia, is your kid happy?

Yes (laughs).

Australia Christopher 'dexter' Nong
Christopher 'dexter' Nong
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1205
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
GOAT IGL Good luck @ RMR
2024-02-25 11:01
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+1
2024-02-25 12:06
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3 replies
#90
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Vietnam DrParadox
+1
2024-02-25 15:02
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2 replies
nt dexter
2024-02-25 18:04
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1 reply
wdym dexter bestest
2024-02-27 16:23
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#3
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sjokz | 
New Zealand SkirmishX
my goat
2024-02-25 11:02
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Good luck
2024-02-25 11:02
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"I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY BELIEVED IN ME IN FNATIC"....... BUT GOD DID
2024-02-25 11:04
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I didn't really get a chance to prove how to play .... Lol man, how many loses to get the chance ?
2024-02-25 11:04
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The interviewers voice is dead
2024-02-25 11:06
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well yeah
2024-02-25 11:06
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I believed
2024-02-25 11:07
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#10
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Mongolia TmJay
goodluck
2024-02-25 11:08
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They hired you just because CS2 incoming and there was a lot of uncertainty. With u were no risks and low budget (high for someone that played like u...) Now CS2 is here and competitive again: BYE BYE. Say "thanks" my friend, fnatic gave u a chance at least and u lose every single competition.
2024-02-25 11:10
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wonder why
2024-02-25 11:11
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#13
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Europe dip6o
Lol, why would anyone do that in the first place
2024-02-25 11:13
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crazy how fnatic kicked him and now they wont make the major, whereas grayhound will definitely make the major
2024-02-25 11:30
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#22
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Brollan | 
Sweden EntonXD
I mean its easier for oceania. But fnatic are with nip in terms of team management
2024-02-25 11:51
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12 replies
1. NiP 2. Fnatic 3. Astralis
2024-02-25 12:20
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11 replies
#38
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Romania RMS17
Og?
2024-02-25 12:34
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9 replies
#62
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Germany kunar2k
OG is known to scout cheap transfers anyway, so they are expected to have bad rosters
2024-02-25 12:58
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7 replies
Funny thing is they dont have a single succesful scout. Look at ence, they scouted bunch of sick players and sold them all for huge profits. And again they made the major with cheap transfers. OG is just utter garbage org with no vision. Maybe ence is a harsh example as they're the best in this field for quite some time now, but they're a proof it can be done.
2024-02-25 13:51
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#109
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Germany kunar2k
I never looked at it that way. That's true, ENCE has some crazy scouters and I believe they also have a good management. Best that OG did was with AleksiB, valde, mantuu flameZ and one other I forgot.
2024-02-25 17:21
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Aleksib was the best single signing OG ever did. Besides him and flamez there isnt a single player from OG that is relevant today, not a single one. From all these years OG has been active. That is just a massive failure. E: Oh and nexa but he's still a bot and I have no clue how he got into G2.
2024-02-25 17:39
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#113
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Germany kunar2k
Agreed
2024-02-25 18:00
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#124
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Australia Breeww
Your forgetting Issaa he left before the others i believe
2024-02-25 23:20
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#125
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Finland Khroni
He was benched just after NBK- and just weeks before everyone decided COVID was magically no longer an issue so that he could finally leave Jordan to bootcamp with them in person
2024-02-25 23:42
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#162
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Brollan | 
Sweden EntonXD
Thats so true. Every player they signed and tried putting in the better spots IE not be a fill has been the ones with the stats slightly above the rest in t2, or people talked about like fashr. They never live up to competing in t1, team suffer and they're basically t2, and the team stagnate
2024-02-28 21:52
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deffo top5, but based on transfers and 'names' those 3 orgs clear OG easily.
2024-02-25 15:08
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#161
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Brollan | 
Sweden EntonXD
haha I agree
2024-02-28 21:50
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Grayhound is not better than Mongolz and I doubt they'll beat Lynn Vision. Tyloo maybe.
2024-02-25 13:01
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#80
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Somalia Lappmaster
And then they are out the first time they meet any other team outside Oceania. Wp gg
2024-02-25 14:02
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1 reply
doesn't matter since stickermoney clears and nobody expects them to make it to the playoffs :)
2024-02-25 15:09
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definitely my ass lmao.
2024-02-25 14:32
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#17
LeX | 
Latvia Vensker
this guy spend 2or 3 year with mouz won 1 online cup and thinks he is good :D
2024-02-25 11:30
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5 replies
+1 dude needs to put his ego down. The only reason he came back to OCE is because its easy.
2024-02-25 11:57
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3 replies
Ez paychecks and easier to get results. If you make a deeprun everyone‘s like ‚hurr durr Dexter finally cooking!‘ and if you lose groupstage everyone’s gonna say ‚nt but expected‘. I‘d have done the same move actually lol
2024-02-25 12:22
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2 replies
haha yea glad you understand. What were you pro in?
2024-02-26 04:11
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1 reply
i would have done the same move as dexter if I was him but I've never been a pro :D
2024-02-26 11:57
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to be fair, mouz had some good phases with him aswell with several final appearances like Dallas aswell as 3/4 placement in rio for example. gotta be objective about it.
2024-02-25 13:22
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No hate to the guy but even in Mouz I didn’t
2024-02-25 11:32
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2 replies
#36
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Ireland Fl0werz
tbf making playoffs in rio is a pretty good result
2024-02-25 12:23
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1 reply
#37
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Portugal 0toxicityDude
Lucky run
2024-02-25 12:26
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Stop baiting your awpers and take less space on a team, maybe then people will start to belive.
2024-02-25 11:49
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don’t think he is an amazing IGL, maybe siuhy is better but fnatic is a total train wreck. I don’t think I’ve ever seen them win after he left.
2024-02-25 11:49
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#24
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Brollan | 
Sweden EntonXD
Siuhy def better. But its a scene difference
2024-02-25 11:54
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siuhy is ofc better, but dont think dexter was awful like some people picture it, he got mouz to some playoffs
2024-02-25 12:06
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#23
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Romania Coxmin
sexter
2024-02-25 11:53
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I never belived in him in mouz either
2024-02-25 11:54
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I always believed in you
2024-02-25 12:07
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dexter 0.8 legend ruined mouz for almost 2 years
2024-02-25 12:08
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#92
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Vietnam DrParadox
Fr he thought he could "teach" other players in OCE while he can't even teach sh*t to the boys in Mouz
2024-02-25 15:06
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#31
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Australia crewy
1 player that I’ve never smack talked
2024-02-25 12:11
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I really think you suit being in Grayhounds Dexter you are a good player and you have an all Australian lineup here ready to do damage and can upset some top teams
2024-02-25 12:17
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"The only reason Dexter shines in Australian scene and making out of RMR is because there teams are so weak .. not because Dexter and Grayhound is actually a top tier team. Easy to think you deserved better when your stats are high in Oceania region but in Europe was a different story. Its not about giving you a chance, you were in Europe for 3 years, you already had your chance.
2024-02-25 12:23
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'I don't really care about those kinds of teams.' KING, the only reason these teams exist is because they get to take advantage of teams that think they're better than cheaters. but they thrive only from that, not from positivity and will.
2024-02-25 12:40
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Results business dexter which is why we didn’t believe in you… maybe coach played a role too but mezii carried that team.. anyway his stint in eu would have gave him great experience to take back to the Aussies- hopefully we see best ever Grayhound
2024-02-25 12:43
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dexter will humble Tyloo
2024-02-25 12:45
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#52
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Romania pincu
major final matchup
2024-02-25 12:48
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Duh
2024-02-25 12:45
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gh and tyloo will qualify to rmr just trust me mongolz is overrated
2024-02-25 12:45
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1 reply
GH and lynn Vision
2024-02-25 14:49
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#48
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Europe KittyChamp
Should have asked him about his coach (erkaSt)
2024-02-25 12:47
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To be fair, I don't think anyone in mouz believed in him either but maybe they were more polite about it. The contrast to karrigan was just insane.
2024-02-25 12:49
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He went to core of a team that was able to get to big final with karrigan, didint work so they rebuild it with youngsters and after 2 years Mouz was kinda decent with him but after he left, his replacement in Siuhy was able to win EPL with same core. Ofcourse Dexter is no top igl but tbf he was calling on a team that had one of best callers ever and most promising igl after Dexter left. I wonder what is his actuall level, we can only say that his not in top.
2024-02-25 13:51
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#56
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Czech Republic JameS_19
These were some terrible questions. -“do you want to play with jks?” What the f do you expect him to say. Every Australian lineup would love to get the best Australian player, but at the same time, he can’t just say “yeeeah, ofc, just kick this guy over there and bring Justin” -“ Is good leadership something you're keen to bring to the Australian scene with your comeback?” no. Only t1 Aussie IGL is coming back to Oceania, but no. What the fuck even is this question. -“ You're coming to this event with a win streak of 23 maps against Australian teams. What do you make of your performance? Do you feel like you have clicked?” no we didn’t. We’re terrible and still can’t play together. We only won 23 maps in a row. What a stupid question.
2024-02-25 12:50
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cya in 10
2024-02-25 18:27
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#131
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United States PlankCS
Yeah, no disrespect to the journalists at HLTV, but it always striked me how sort of subpar the interviews are. It's a bunch of softball questions and surface-level observations that don't really reveal anything interesting about the player or their team. They do provide this for free to us at the end of the day so it's not a big deal. I'm not expecting it to be the best in the first place.
2024-02-26 01:29
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Probably because he destroyed two historic franchises single-handedly, no idea how mouz let him rot for so long
2024-02-25 13:27
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No one believes in you because you ruin every AWPer under your leadership
2024-02-25 13:38
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#75
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Bahamas spdd
noone believes in you fkn decoy
2024-02-25 13:48
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good luck
2024-02-25 13:54
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real fnatic now disband
2024-02-25 14:01
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look at fnatic now kekW EZ STICKER MONEY DEXTER GOAT WINS AGAIN
2024-02-25 14:38
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Good luck dexter, those who love cs and wants to see competitive teams from non EU region fully support you. Make Grayhound great
2024-02-25 14:52
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mongolz and grayhound getting the spots
2024-02-25 15:21
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who did this interview?
2024-02-25 15:35
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#102
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Australia Beard43
Good interview, humble as always. Sounds like you're a bit under prepared for this event so good luck men.
2024-02-25 16:00
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from 0.89 in eu to 1.37 in oce. must feel good for him
2024-02-25 16:58
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dont worry, we still dont believe in you
2024-02-25 17:02
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#111
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Germany KimpaVita
I liked dexter at fnatic. His calls were inconsistent but he had to gamble cause off the poor line-up presented to him.
2024-02-25 17:27
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I still don't believe in him. Everything he has done since he took away the joke on his Twitter Bio has been like a fever dream
2024-02-25 21:15
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you're right
2024-02-25 23:04
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#130
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Australia kTw0
EZ4SEXTER
2024-02-26 01:03
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even xizt, golden ,alex and mezii couldn't save fnatic....
2024-02-26 03:22
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Weird interview. I don't think people get some Australian nuances due to lack of exposure to us. Ive noticed odd wording in interviews analyzing Dexter in the past. I'm thankful to mouz for giving him a shot - note he got 1 tier 1 player and academy players. They punched above their weight. Fnatc has stifled agitated players who've been sold off or kicked since Dexter left. Plus he was put into a team with the old igl still there who got sold to vitality. Anyway I'm glad he's doing what he wants. Dexter is one of our GOAT talents but the Eurocentric circlejerk created this stupid narrative about him. Anyway wish him luck. As for jks, he's performed for a long time. He was pushed out of G2 due to divas. Have G2 won anything since he left? Neg.
2024-02-26 03:23
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#138
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Reunion caMsTar_^
+1
2024-02-26 05:03
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+1 well said
2024-02-27 12:02
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he was so good hes back in tier4
2024-02-27 17:16
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were they wrong to?
2024-02-26 04:17
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yeah cus you weren't good lol
2024-02-26 04:22
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Good luck.
2024-02-26 22:29
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#156
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Canada p1peb0mb
Kekw
2024-02-28 12:53
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Now i understand.
2024-02-28 14:21
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dexter i am sorry to being rude but we did not believe in you because it is hard to trust australia cs when Romania CS is the strongest and most worthy of power house status if australia can apply for Romanian working visa and practise hard in Romania pugs you can gather streangth and tactics to be a incredible playeur
2024-02-28 15:13
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#160
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Europe yommamas
yeah I wonder why
2024-02-28 16:15
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no doubt that fnatic does the right thing
2024-02-29 06:44
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