frozen: "I would have considered Vitality if FaZe's offer wasn't on the table"

The Slovakian lurker touched on offers, becoming more selfish in MOUZ, and the appeal of the FaZe organization.

David "⁠frozen⁠" Čerňanský was the latest guest on HLTV Confirmed, taking us through his journey from the Czech-Slovak scene into a near five-year stint MOUZ before departing for FaZe in December 2023.

"I've been pretty loyal to teams, even in the Czechoslovakian teams. I swapped orgs but rarely players," he said when asked about having such a long stint in MOUZ.

'The hardest part [after karrigan and ropz both departed MOUZ] was to accept that this was the team I'm going with. It was hard to lower the standards. We were close to No. 1, so it felt like a step back."

But as MOUZ entered a transition period, the opportunity arose for frozen to take over from Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool as the star man, both in roles and in attitude. "Consistency was something I was struggling with before. But they gave me a lot of space. It was required for me to be the star, to be selfish, that was something I had to learn over time."

The gang also touched on the early struggles when the team became mostly NXT graduates, which culminated in bombing out of IEM Dallas 2022 in the group stage. "This was when I was told to be more selfish, to be more of a star player. Back when I had karrigan as an IGL, I was the entry, I was following Finn, there was no place to be selfish."

frozen's win at EPL Season 10 in 2019 was his favorite moment in a MOUZ jersey

Christopher "⁠dexter⁠" Nong remained as the side's in-game leader for playoff runs at Cologne later that year, but was eventually replaced by Kamil "⁠siuhy⁠" Szkaradek to restore the in-game leader-coach duo of the MOUZ NXT days.

"siuhy and sycrone, coming from NXT, prepared all these game plans with what rounds we can start with. dexter was more of a feeling guy, coming up with the solution on the spot. That was the biggest difference."

On Dennis "⁠sycrone⁠" Nielsen himself, frozen praised him as a true all-rounder. "One unique thing is that he was playing the most recently out of all the coaches, he is really in the meta as a coach. He used to be a school teacher in Denmark, where they teach CS, he has the know-how to talk to people, especially with the academy players."

The Danish coach also earned a reputation for some brutal roster changes, such as removing Nathan "⁠NBK-⁠" Schmitt after just 25 maps. "Some of the moves looked weird from the outside but we were always looking for that extra 5-10%. I'm not going to say that some of them were made the right way, but sycrone was always looking for improvement."

After siuhy's arrival, a breakthrough was made as MOUZ won ESL Pro League Season 18 in Malta — but with a CS2-fuelled rostermania ahead, offers started to come frozen's way.

"I got the first message [from FaZe] before Sydney, not crazy big talks, just a little update. I was always good friends with karrigan, talking life, talking CS, so in a way I was always informed."

But with Emil "⁠Magisk⁠" Reif out of Vitality, there was also an option to link up with Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut that the Slovakian did not explore. "Vitality was something I would have considered if FaZe offer wasn't on the table. It was either FaZe or staying with MOUZ."

He expanded, "when I was 15 I remember saying it would be a dream for me to play in MOUZ and FaZe. In a way it was a dream come true to join the organization. [Playing with karrigan and ropz again] played a part as well, definitely. But the other guys too, rain and broky, NEO as coach, RobbaN being around, these are people I've looked up to in my life so it adds an extra layer of confidence to my tool box. There were many reasons I went to FaZe."

Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen, a "more demanding IGL" than others frozen has played with, knew he was signing a different frozen than the teenager he had nurtured in MOUZ in 2019, and that came with a discussion around roles.

Some, frozen would have to give up, like on Nuke: "Yard was one of the spots I wanted to keep, but slightly before I joined I spoke with Finn and we ended up agreeing rain should keep it. Even me, when I was the Outside player, I was watching rain demos. He's one of the best, if not the best, players in the world there."

But frozen was allowed much of his other preferences, like Toilets on Overpass, B on Inferno, and the swap he is "most grateful for", returning to B Short on Mirage after playing A in MOUZ.

frozen has maintained his star player mentality in the move from MOUZ to FaZe

"I had to demand more in my positions over time," frozen continued. "Everything I learned in MOUZ I tried to transfer to FaZe, I try to demand a lot here as well. In that sense, I changed personally. When I was 16 in MOUZ you could not call me a star player, I wasn't demanding."

Playing with ropz again also meant giving up the heavy lurk roles but this was not an issue for frozen, who said that if he could choose again he would have chosen his current second lurker roles in FaZe over the heavy lurking ones he picked in MOUZ when given a carte blanche at the start of 2022.

So far, in FaZe, frozen has made consecutive finals but fallen short in both, first to ZywOo and Vitality at the BLAST World Final in Abu Dhabi and then to Danil "⁠donk⁠" Kryshkovets and Spirit in Katowice.

frozen was full of praise for the youngster's rapid ascent: "Everyone tried to downplay [donk] before Katowice. He proved everyone wrong. I don't think he's outsmarting anyone, he's just really very very sharp. We triple-peeked him on Overpass and he killed us all, Maybe we should have brought four people."

Attention now turns to the PGL Major in Copenhagen, where FaZe enter as the number one team in the world after making five successive grand finals. frozen will join his teammates at bootcamp — the first time they have had time to sit down and practice since he joined —, with a little over two weeks to go before the Elimination stage of the Major kicks off.


You can watch the whole HLTV Confirmed episode with frozen on YouTube, or listen in audio form via popular podcast apps.

France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
2290
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1629
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1400
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
Slovakia David 'frozen' Čerňanský
David 'frozen' Čerňanský
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
1442
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.64
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
33
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
2283
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.69
Russia Danil 'donk' Kryshkovets
Danil 'donk' Kryshkovets
Age:
17
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.20
Maps played:
384
KPR:
0.83
DPR:
0.67
Poland Kamil 'siuhy' Szkaradek
Kamil 'siuhy' Szkaradek
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
793
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.69
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
1251
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.61
Australia Christopher 'dexter' Nong
Christopher 'dexter' Nong
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1217
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
The MOUZ contract states hes got priority from FaZe lol
2024-03-06 13:15
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#2
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Sweden Exorzon
Who wouldn't!
2024-03-06 13:15
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the GOAT
2024-03-06 13:15
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TWISTZZ: "I WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED VITALITY IF LIQUID OFFERED LESS SALARY"
2024-03-06 13:19
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#22
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Romania garcea89
lol
2024-03-06 13:38
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#64
Faceit level 8  | 
United States Plus1_Minus1
+1
2024-03-06 21:19
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KRIMBO: "I WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED VITALITY IF I WAS SMART"
2024-03-06 13:17
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#23
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Romania garcea89
not even wrong
2024-03-06 13:38
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#41
Faceit level 10  | 
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Germany reGiis
or maybe he cares about german cs
2024-03-06 14:49
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8 replies
Good for him. He can retire as a german legend with 0 relevant trophies and top 20 showings. Tabsen knows a thing or two about that.
2024-03-06 15:05
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7 replies
#44
Faceit level 10  | 
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Germany reGiis
Maybe they will do some damage and if not he can still move to another team, he is still young. Also its good to see some loyal players and teams with character and not these random mixed teams only because of rating without chemestry
2024-03-06 15:10
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6 replies
Who cares about loyalty ? The only time BiG did something as a team was when they were international. Krimbo can leave but he signed a 5 year deal. He won't be cheap to buy out and if he decides to sit it out he will be 26 when it's done. I think he shot himself in the foot with that one because I doubt big can do something if they stick to German cs only.
2024-03-06 15:30
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#47
Faceit level 10  | 
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Germany reGiis
The fans care exspecially in Germany. Also BIG allowed their players without big buyout to explore their options
2024-03-06 16:01
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#50
z4kr | 
Germany Azalot
because syrsons explorations went so successfully right? either you get a chacne in a top team or you stay in BIG. no reason to go onto a tier 2 international team for exploration or to get 1 lucky tournament run
2024-03-06 17:02
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3 replies
Syrson went to a dogshit eu mix, krimbo was wanted by vitality and mouz. You cannot compare that.
2024-03-06 18:29
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#66
z4kr | 
Germany Azalot
true, didn't know he got an offer by vitality/mouz. just thought international tier2 offers make no sense but vitality is a no brainer
2024-03-06 22:09
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#68
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Germany SeBook
Krimbo had insane offers...
2024-03-07 13:02
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mr bih
2024-03-06 13:19
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#7
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Israel BLPKOSHER
NO WAY
2024-03-06 13:21
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1 reply
noway plays for imperial not faze
2024-03-06 13:36
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MOUZ is never beating the FaZe Academy allegations :v
2024-03-06 13:21
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#9
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United States breaston
Omg frozen instead of mezi would’ve been insnae
2024-03-06 13:21
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8 replies
Even signing Twistzz instead of mezii is insane, but I guess Vitality offers less money which is a shame cuz mezii is terrible
2024-03-06 13:27
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#13
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United States breaston
He cooks sometimes but mostly just 1,05 poster
2024-03-06 13:29
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6 replies
He's bottom fragging 95% of the time and surely not close to being a world-class anchor
2024-03-06 13:48
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4 replies
idk i would say he is a pretty solid anchor since he always weights his team down
2024-03-06 14:46
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3 replies
nice one haha
2024-03-06 16:15
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LOL
2024-03-06 18:29
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#69
apEX | 
United States BigAI
+1 LMAO
2024-03-07 15:11
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#42
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Ukraine dench1k
Nah I think he orders from delivery pretty much all the time
2024-03-06 14:57
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#10
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Finland Misttaa
Frozen to faze and Brollan to mouz are both great roster moves, faze needed a profile like frozen to replace twistzz, and mouz needed a 2nd agro player so siuhy can make more dynamic calls.
2024-03-06 13:23
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I would consider Vitality, if I wasn't Gold Nova.
2024-03-06 13:26
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headline kinda click baity and out of context, he actually then said: I’d to either to faze or stay in mouz
2024-03-06 13:33
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1 reply
+1
2024-03-06 20:20
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Blamef: i will consider vitality
2024-03-06 13:34
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2 replies
he would bait zywoo
2024-03-06 13:36
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1 reply
zywoo have been baited by mezzi. big upgrade there
2024-03-06 13:39
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#17
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Portugal donSardon
Vitality didn't need to sign any star players to take the 5th place (my opinion)... otherwise it would be too much of a clash of egos. Mezii is doing very well in the support role. Super competent.
2024-03-06 13:35
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4 replies
Mezii doing very well? Have you been watching him playing recently (except for the RMR where he was decent)? Enemy teams keep abusing his bomb site every time it is ridiculous.
2024-03-06 13:54
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#31
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Portugal donSardon
Stop hating. There was no need for either Twistzz or Frozen. Sometimes to many stars leads to a complete downfall.. Players like Mezii are super important! He was super good in the past and even if he isn't showing results in the present, that doesn't mean he is bad!
2024-03-06 14:01
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+1 As much as I like frozen or twitzz looking at the roles they took over in their new organizations it seems clear not only salary was a reason for it not working out. Considering his positions and amount of support he gives to other players I feel mezii has done quite well in vitality so far.
2024-03-06 14:37
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#45
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Portugal donSardon
Me to!! I really love Frozen or Twistzz but you gotta have a player that looks after the team in the way that he doesn't mind to put the team first, instead going after personal statistics (ratings). Mezii gives the right space for Zywoo, Spinx and FlameZ to shine! Nowadays he just needs to improve his consistency at this role.. because in Fnatic he was the strongest link :)
2024-03-06 15:12
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he said it was mouz or faze.
2024-03-06 13:36
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2 replies
Exactly It was either FaZe or Mouz but He said I might’ve considered vitality’s offer although the way he said it wasn’t with excitement. Yet still HLTV made a article about it for clicks
2024-03-06 19:37
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1 reply
HLTV hates mouz that is why.
2024-03-07 08:21
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-mezii +baitF insane
2024-03-06 13:40
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1 reply
yeah, if Vitality had issues with antieco rounds baitF would be awesome
2024-03-06 14:00
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#26
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Denmark ram1n
frozen>mezii any fking day. Mezii is ass and vitality for sure is weaker now sadly.
2024-03-06 13:44
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#38
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Portugal donSardon
Frozen is clearly better, I agree.. But it wouldn't be a clash of egos with Frozen in team? Sometimes low key (profile) players are super important!
2024-03-06 14:32
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#70
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Czech Republic Tr3jx_S
Clash of egos for sure not frozens ego is nowhere high
2024-03-07 16:03
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Reported
2024-03-06 13:55
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#32
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Brazil jaONzyS
- Vitality was something I would have considered - It was either FaZe or staying with MOUZ pick one
2024-03-06 14:18
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4 replies
LUL
2024-03-06 17:18
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2024-03-06 19:35
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2 replies
#57
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Brazil jaONzyS
It seems more like he wanted to please 3 sides and got confused
2024-03-06 19:43
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1 reply
Nah vitality wasn’t even in his mind From what I’ve seen he was loyal to mouz and was willing to stay loyal unless there was FaZe offer which ultimately happened
2024-03-06 20:05
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#36
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Sweden Vrede
lol for real
2024-03-06 14:28
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#49
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Israel RoyBenji
I thought him and FlameZ had beef, launders said they hate each other because of Faceit
2024-03-06 16:18
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Twistzz was never 1st choice for Faze. Prove me wrong.
2024-03-06 19:25
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#59
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Europe _Liam_
"Maybe we should have brought four people" LMAOOOOOOO
2024-03-06 20:07
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Stop capping me know MOUZ is FaZe academy team. siuhy will replace karrigan next.
2024-03-06 20:10
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#61
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Other Jesus!
Good career decision from Frozen, FaZe is obviously the better team and will be better moving forward. If you can play with karrigan, you never choose to play with apex, night and day difference between these two.
2024-03-06 20:15
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Meanwhile Kimbo and Twistzz
2024-03-06 20:54
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#65
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United States caliprep
I like Frozen, he's a solid rifler and a great replacement for Twistz...Whos kind of getting washed nowadays.
2024-03-06 21:25
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Frozen hasn't done a damn thing except smirk like a clown every time Donk shit on him.
2024-03-08 06:20
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