Sent to jail for gaming

As a reaction to the school shootings that shook Germany last month the regional governments of Bavaria and Lower Saxony have drafted a bill, whose main purpose is to disallow violent games. Developers, distributors and even players of video games were one does "cruel violence on humans or human-looking characters" can be sentenced to a fine and a maximum of one year in jail.

The draft law will come before the upper house of German parliament in 2007, but has already caused disturbance in the German gaming community.
Frank Sliwka, head of the Deutsche E-Sport Bund, states:

"We have among the most drastic censorship rules for games. Now we are being labeled as a breeding ground for unstable, dysfunctional and violent youngsters."

Of course a ban would affect the German Counter Strike community, but perhaps the damage has already been done. The bad PR around violent games could result in lack of interest in sponsorships from mayor corporations.
A part of the aftermath of a previous school shooting in 2003 was a ban of violent content from the German versions of various games. Counter Strike, for example, does not feature blood and killed victims vanish instead collapsing.

The bill is properly a result of Günther Becksteins, the Bavarian interior minister, populistic politics. An opinion poll taken after the latest shooting showed 72 % blamed such incidents on violent computer games and 59 % supporting a ban.

Beckstein, the Bavarian interior minister, states:

"It is absolutely beyond any doubt that such killer games desensitise unstable characters and can have a stimulating effect."

The 18-year Emsdetten shooter, who killed himself with a rifle after storming his school and injuring 11 people, was an avid Counter Strike.

Perhaps it is the minister is the one being confused about IRL and the digital world.

#1
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Lithuania Jebediah
LOL ? some fucking kid come to school and killed all his classm8 GUD VERY GUD.
2006-12-07 15:24
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Denmark Martin - HLTV.org
This is completely stupid. Just like the drug test. Gaming is no near ready for stuff like that.
2006-12-07 15:25
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Finland anssi
So is counter-strike going to be illegal game on someday?
2006-12-07 15:56
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Denmark Martin - HLTV.org
Nah I think not. Caus... movies never got banned. And there is some sick movies... But then again... I movie stars got more power than a games developer.
2006-12-07 16:06
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Finland apple90
Yeah same thing has happened in Germany once and the boy/man who shot others and then himself was active counter-striker. But is it always fault of the games? I've read so many artcles that said it's games fault. But it's also TV, movies and violent comic books ?
2006-12-07 16:02
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Denmark Martin - HLTV.org
Yeah thats the one from 2003. U Are so correct, what about movies etc. Its just stupid... what about the parents taking care of their kids instead.
2006-12-07 16:06
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Turkey Blub
Yeah, a big problem in germany. 3 times sth like that happened since november. first time the person shot aound himself and injuried a lot of persons. The second person said that he wants to do the same but the police take him under arrest. Then for yesterday there was another "Amok" planed. Against an 18 years old "counter Strike" gamer. There was no Amok, but they found a guy which killed himself....
2006-12-07 16:11
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Denmark Martin - HLTV.org
But it is still stupid to blame gaming imo. I mean... Jack the Ripper didnt play super mario or what ever.
2006-12-07 16:14
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Bulgaria Billy_metala
Counter strike is just a game ! if somebody is mad you can't say yeah he is so crazy and kill people becose play games with blood or other something like that. When we watch WWE they say don't try this at home ! When we play NFS the game told you have fun but in real life drive Safely ! And may be when we start CS the game must told not for idiots !
2006-12-07 16:12
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Poland cyberq
wtf :O ,like in GTA
2006-12-07 16:19
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Slovakia Strenki
why is HeatoN on screen? :P
2006-12-07 16:43
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Denmark xzicdR
HEATON IN JAIL :D:D:D haha
2006-12-07 17:01
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Spain deBurrows
Violence is everywhere in this world. So the person with the illness that makes him kill people or killing himself, can be stimulated by a videogame or by a movie or by music or by Chuck Norris. To avoid that, this person needs education and attention from his parents. Banning videogames won't save the world but will fuck the rest of the gamers without mental problems. P.D.: LoL @ the picture of Heaton behind the jail. I thought he was caught!
2006-12-07 16:48
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Lithuania blAn
thats sad. but why heaton behind bars ? ;-)
2006-12-07 17:43
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Bulgaria Billy_metala
if all kills in CS are kills in real life I'm don't suprice that definatly HeatoN is in jail ^_^ (NiP rulles :))
2006-12-07 17:48
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Denmark xz1te
omg, talking about over reacting o_O
2006-12-07 18:30
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Czech Republic W0th4n
lal this is shit I fuck stupid ministers with their stupid ideaz fK them and... FREE HEATON!! D:DDDD
2006-12-07 18:40
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Faroe Islands s1carius
First the jew's now the gamers OH NOES! :O wtf is up with Germany and MR12 anyway?
2006-12-07 18:52
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Czech Republic W0th4n
yes if they are played MR15 they would be OK :)))
2006-12-07 23:57
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Denmark Bacroon
omg? Can it be more lame?
2006-12-07 19:01
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Poland red.13
For me it's obvious: If someone is mentally ill, he/she will do something bad some day, no matter if the cause will games, music, movie or a bad humor. So accusing games for all the sick behavior of youngsters is PoCrap.
2006-12-07 19:27
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So true red.
2006-12-07 19:50
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Greece SiLLenT
etc... some think are.. very stupid...
2006-12-07 19:30
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Slovenia swajno
imo: playing counter-strike is probably never the reason, why somebody should go rushing school and fragging schoolmates. the reasons are bad relationship and these things. counter-strike just shows that guy a way to do it. if it woudn't been counter-strike, that guy could go texas chainsaw massacre way ...
2006-12-07 19:53
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Belgium geMeHmep
They do ban movies, for exemple Borat in Russia is banned and u won't be able to see it in theaters there. But I really think banning games is going to far, what's next??? banning candy??? Btw here in Belgium and in Germany almost every cs gameclub was closed for some reason...
2006-12-07 20:10
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The Borat movie isnt to be compared to this in any way. Borat ban is about racism I guess. Not violence to breed violence.
2006-12-07 20:17
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Belgium geMeHmep
The moral is that they do ban movies no matter for what reason.
2006-12-08 22:33
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U make no sense? Why do they bn movies? Caus they present Russians as idiots. Not murderers.
2006-12-08 23:50
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Belgium geMeHmep
First: it's Kazachstan they make fool of in Borat and Jackass the Movie (bad influence probably) was also banned but here in Belgium and by saying that I mean if they ban movies it's not the only thing they can ban... and what do u mean by murderers???
2006-12-09 23:09
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France NaGasH
Erm ... Counter-Strike is mainly a strategy game as the boal of a round is to complete a strategic goal. There are many many games much more violent than Counter-Strike, but indeed some mentaly unstable people can get confused and get kind of crazy. It's the parent's and doctor's job to avoid that. A large part of Counter-Strike players are completly lucid, and a majority of the very good players are intelligent above the average. In general, Counter-Strike is more a way to develop oneself than to become a kind of psycho. If you remove blood from Counter-Strike, it will not change the game at all. The main interest point of the game is not killing people, but being more accurate and more intelligent than the opponent. This is bullshit just like when some Manson addicted young people killed classmates in Columbia. Exactly the same syndrom. It sux.
2006-12-07 20:21
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Finland Ar$ka
To be really honest.. It's not because of the games. If you have balanced life you won't start shooting people because of some game.. Thats my opion ;) You have to be mentally fucked up to start a carnage with pistol or something in school just because its fun to frag in counter-strike? Doesn't make any point.
2006-12-07 23:55
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Finland Ar$ka
To add on my post.. It's for your parents job to keep you away from the games if they think you are too young to play some violent game :P
2006-12-07 23:57
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Australia Neville
lol thats retarded.
2006-12-08 10:35
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France OsmoZ
Lol ? i don't understand the reaction of the "school shootings" : /
2006-12-08 18:39
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#33
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Denmark fskis
Ah, the ignorance <3
2006-12-08 22:35
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Denmark Flynn
hahaha i love the pic :D
2006-12-09 13:36
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Brazil g0k1
This is such a nonsense huh ? If that guy had mental problems, the whole country shouldn't be blamed. They should create more mental institutions. It's easy to see how hipocrisy affects all of us. I don't need to study economy or social science (as quite in fact I did not) to see how lame and false politics are. After all, it's easy to blame a game and a bunch of nerds instead of creating more mental institutions and schools (the last one, with more solid education). Oh by the way, I don't think they censored the violent movies and the violent news on television. Oh right, I'm sorry. I forgot that movies move lots of money worldwide, and that the news programs are multinational brands' little puppy dogs. In sum, I'm quite sorry for the German Counter-Strike players. Hope that they move to Holland or France :P In deep frustration, g0k1
2006-12-10 07:21
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Brazil g0k1
Oh well, you all already mentioned most of what I said. Sorry spamming -.- Altough, one thing is for sure: If gaming can be a job, why can't it have sindicates ? Maybe if there were some, the popular pression could make the government stop this bull-(four asterisks).
2006-12-10 07:26
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Denmark Naz
Don't say sorry for posting a well-written comment, post more of them instead ;)
2006-12-10 08:07
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Brazil g0k1
Thank you :) Will do ;)
2006-12-12 10:39
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Switzerland raki
ffs mp_friendlyfire was on ;)
2006-12-10 18:45
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Japan tenshi
:D :D :D this german government has to be bored or have shits in their heads for making such a fine decision :D :D :D Would it be illegal to play CS on german servers?:P
2006-12-10 18:50
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Germany raksO M.
I would say that the parents are foult! and/or the pupils @ school ! not the videogames! omg -.-
2006-12-10 20:57
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Belgium Ragsco
and if they dont have parents? it can be to... who his fault is it then? God? :s:p
2006-12-12 15:54
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Germany Wii
#26 You've stealed my words. Absoulutly right. #37 I think most whould go to Austria, but I whould go to Denmark, I was there 3 times on holiday and I can speak a bit danish :). But I don't think that it such a day will come that are people leaving their country because of a videogame. ---- It is very sad to see how much idiots are on this world. But if for example your dad leaves the family, your brother or sister killed him or herself, your mother take drugs and you are very bad at school it's a bit difficult to be normal.
2006-12-12 20:23
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Denmark xzicdR
actually its fun! :D But OMFG !!
2006-12-12 20:26
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United States Acez^ | HypeR
That sux all the vilence in movies
2006-12-12 22:18
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Bulgaria dar0
you all try to tell me, that the CS never, NEVER make you to SREEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMM ?!?!? :D
2006-12-13 01:06
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Portugal M3taLDucK
This reminds me of south park... "blame them before they blame us" Hypocrit i say...
2006-12-13 01:15
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Netherlands g@M
Hm lets stop showing soccer maybe I kick someone ?>
2006-12-13 13:13
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