Sources: Liquid target Polish AWPer ultimate

4-7-2024 22:21

Liquid turn to an off-the-radar AWPer in their latest rebuild.

ultimate previously played for teams such as Illuminar and AGO

Liquid have set their sights on Roland "⁠ultimate⁠" Tomkowiak as their new AWPer, several sources with knowledge of the move have revealed to HLTV.org.

The 20-year-old Pole is expected to be one of three new additions to the team in the summer off-season. Coach Wilton "⁠zews⁠" Prado and AWPer and in-game leader Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller were removed last month, while Felipe "⁠skullz⁠" Medeiros is reportedly joining FURIA.

ultimate parted ways with Illuminar last week following a three-month spell with the Polish squad. Before that, he also played short stints under NOM, PGE Turow and AGO dating back to 2022.

Though his early years left much to be desired, in Counter-Strike 2 the AWPer seems to have found his stride with a 1.16 average rating and 1.24 Impact playing mostly against sub-top-50 opposition in various European tournaments.

His call-up from Liquid comes as a complete surprise, especially given the organization's focus on bigger names in their latest rebuild late last year. It seems that the current state of the market has caused them to shift towards unproven talent, as one source indicated other options came with a hefty price tag.

who?

2024-07-04 22:21

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10 replies

why him and not obo? what the fucks wrong with you liquid?

2024-07-04 22:25

6 replies

OBO MENTIONEDDDDDDDDDDDDD

2024-07-04 23:02

1 reply

sad but obo washed, ultimate young talent

2024-07-04 23:39

Because obo will decide he’s going home and quit from the airport again the day of dh qualifiers. This is after he said he’d stay until after EPL playoffs. Dude literally burned every bridge with one team hahahahaha

2024-07-05 00:04

Ditch the team when they are showing promising results, obo the backstabber.

2024-07-05 07:13

Cause one is washed and one is decent

2024-07-05 14:16

2024-07-05 18:36

The guy was in AGO squad and played 5 overtimes against Navi(s1mple, electronic in that) Played with Fiku, furlan, lemon etc

2024-07-05 00:22

actually should've signed deko

2024-07-05 01:42

The polish zywoo

2024-07-05 08:39

LMAO

the liquid dumpster fire continues

2024-07-07 16:49

2024-07-04 22:22

1.04

7 replies

They have 2 spots open for Europeans and they went with this. At least the other one is July 2022's hottest entry fragger.

2024-07-05 02:46

5 replies

and you're talking about who?

2024-07-05 17:30

4 replies

who am I referring to when I mention a current Liquid player who's European and an entry fragger?

2024-07-05 22:53

3 replies

if you're talking about yekindar then your #177 is quite confusing. firstly, yeki fame is from 2021, not 2022. second, how is yeki's spot "open" if he's still in the team?

2024-07-06 00:48

2 replies

reading comprehension goes a long way

2024-07-06 15:34

agreed

2024-07-06 17:05

1.04 what? When u check his profile it comes with much better stats. Hltv is bugged af

2024-07-05 14:14

ez for goat

TLGMLUL

LMFAO

Liquid pick washed guys or tier-2 little-known guys

Tier3*

2024-07-04 22:23

Tier 4

2024-07-04 22:40

Illuminar as org is tier4 because ur not even getting paid but the roster themselves were messing around in tier3

2024-07-04 22:59

Are you saying they don't get paid as hyberbole or are you being serious? If they didn't get payed what's the point of signing contracts?

2024-07-04 23:37

Hyperbole, obviously they get paid but not in time and for example Illuminar and Anonymo still haven't given most of their players the money they owe them. The only org that historically USUALLY paid on time was Pompa Team (at least in League it was true when 7more7 Pompa was a thing dk if in CS it held true)

2024-07-05 00:23

what

who

We're all were blind. Skullz pick was amazing.

theres actually no way, didnt know it was possible to make a worse move than g2 snax

Wait maybe these rosters will be so bat crazy that they will work.

this is better than rainwaiker, but definetely worse than snax

2024-07-04 22:27

Snax > ultimate > rainwaker

2024-07-05 00:58

Sources: the voices

Liquid forgot to take meds

2024-07-04 23:16

Exactly

2024-07-05 07:56

they’ve forgotten for like 3 years

2024-07-06 13:55

You know there is a better polish awper out there right....

2024-07-04 22:24

18 replies

they tried hades, don't know if he wanted to move to NA

Majority of events are in EU why would he have to move to NA?

9 replies

They play RMR in NA

2024-07-04 22:28

That is like 2 weeks out of the year.

2024-07-04 22:30

Hmm, i don't know why then - TL played this year also NA qualifiers

2024-07-04 22:31

Where does TL CS team live / bootcamp?

2024-07-05 01:54

bootcamp is obviously in that Netherlands office. Well live you currently have 2 canadians and 1 latvian.

2024-07-05 02:16

Do they really not practice with each other other than bootcamp before tournaments? Didn't Spirit say they practice as a team 4-5 hours a day all season long? I'd think that's typical for teams...

2024-07-05 04:03

They obviously practice other than having bootcamps, but its a reality in modern day CS that a majority of events are going to be held in the EU as such a majority of your year should theoretically be spent in EU.

2024-07-05 04:05

Right, so do NAF and Twistzz live in EU during the season? That was my question.

2024-07-05 04:07

pręty sure they all live somewhere in Europe. I think NAF is based in the Netherlands and twistzz in Serbia but I'm not sure

2024-07-06 21:21

yeah, his nickname is DGL

tbh I'd love to see him in a better team

2024-07-05 08:32

unfortunately pasza is going to have a very busy schedule in october and november travelling all by himself to china

2024-07-04 23:06

heh

2024-07-10 00:25

mhL?

2024-07-04 23:23

mhl washed

2024-07-04 23:40

he's 22 and was holding like a 1.20 vs. top 20 teams last time he was active...

2024-07-05 04:04

WHO??

HAHAHAHAHAH

Lulquid again in bad moves.

LMFAO Liquid is cooked, poor twistzz and naf having to play with Tier3 AWPers

"Poor Twistzz" He chose his faith. Left FaZe, denied Vitality.

2024-07-04 22:26

He did it 2x btw denied FaZe and Vitality. I swear Magisk and Twistzz cursed themselves with these moves

2024-07-04 22:29

At least magisk is securing his retirement. What's twistzz doing?

2024-07-05 02:49

I'm sure he gets paid very good money as well, we all don't need to worry about his retirement, liquid is rich af.

2024-07-05 07:24

yeah but so is faze and vitality. I'm sure they would've matched liquid's salary.

2024-07-05 09:14

I kinda expected hades but never this guy lol

Maybe a good pick-up, young, has had experience communicating in english, is excelling in CS2

This comment was written by AI?

2024-07-05 09:04

g2 and liquid are in a competition who can sign the worse 5th arent they

Still better than cadiaN with the awp

Why not just -yekindar and keep cadian

because they hate cadian

mhl exists?

I know this guy he is a beast, next s1mple i swear

Disband asap

hasn't been bad vs tier 2 but I don't think he's even going to be an upgrade over cadian firepower wise

im gonna cry

bro y not mhl?

DISBAND PLEASE ASAP

He might be good against t2 and below, but without a good coach, which liquid has not yet found by the way or igl with good leadership who would help him to adapt to tier 1 i dont think he will play good. When team signs an old player, people say "keep recycing washed bots, instead of gambling on young players" When team signs unproven player from t2 and below, people say "disband or joke team" without seeing him playing at least 1 game in new team.

Man what, I get the risk on a young player but why him???

No clue who this is, but at least they aren't signing 30 year olds.

i believe this will be jokasteve's redemption arc and he will prove all of us wrong or not lmao

LOOOOL

Unexpected

When I saw headline, I was 100% sure they target Hades and then I saw this. Wtf is Liquid doing, this roster will be worse than Patsi and Rainwaker one.

Really ???

man

Bro why not pick up s1mple lol

im done

Who

xddddddddddddddd

They can't afford to lose another 6 months, after the Patsi + Rainwaker saga.

Is there another old VP player joining as coach who is bringing polish talent to NA, just like zews

2024-07-04 22:32

pasha is head coach bro

2024-07-05 05:48

Elige leaving marked the death of Liquid, nothing they do seems to make sense anymore

2024-07-04 22:33

It started with shox tho

2024-07-04 22:34

Is he even better than rainwaker? lolol

LULTIMATE

2024-07-04 22:35

If this is true liquid can officially be considered finished

eh?

2024-07-04 22:36

why not hades or mhl then

13 replies

hades zzz good but not great mhl is like 5 months without playing an official match + buyout

2024-07-04 22:44

12 replies

mhl was a beast last year. what about regali?

you said right ''last year'' its 2024 now

Better someone with at least a bit of experience at top play than a literal who.

bro's experience is warming the bench at falcons

2024-07-05 04:17

hltv.org/stats/players/16847/mhl?startDa..

2024-07-05 04:21

He's good, but his timing has passed, 90% of these games are CSGO, now it's CS2, he'll have to prove himself again

2024-07-05 04:27

Fair

2024-07-05 04:35

regali = buyout but mid

Entropiq doesn't have a team anymore so doubt they'd be asking a lot...

2024-07-05 04:06

if he really is as good as you suggest they would ask a lot for him, wouldn't they?

elige literally wanted MHL to liquid if they couldn't get osee

2024-07-05 09:28

I also wanted Liquid +mhL at some point, but today wouldn't be a good timing, he hasn't played for months (and he wasn't doing very well in CS2) and there's a buyout coming with him

2024-07-05 10:01

called it

2024-07-04 22:39

i thought Zeus has retired??

2024-07-04 22:41

Another bad move

2024-07-04 22:43

Bring back Goatwaker

2024-07-04 22:46

What is happening in Liquid? Why? Hades I would accept, but this is worse than rainwaker and patsi journey. I mean..good luck..?

naf and twitstzz should step up here and just straight up say NO. best case scenario this kid puts up the exact same stats as cadian or just extremely slightly better ones. i hate shitting on people like this but i don't see any good coming out of this. this kid just doesn't have it. they'll boot him after 4 months tops

2024-07-04 22:47

Going from NOM (while is not even Israeli) to liquid lol

Liquid +jks or no?

2024-07-04 22:49

Now that's an ultimate gamble if I ever saw one

2024-07-04 22:51

who tf let team liquid cook? WTFFFFF

2024-07-04 22:52

Bruh 💀

Liquid? Are you okay?

2024-07-04 22:53

GG go next season

2024-07-04 22:54

why insiders doesnt get to know these kind of moves lol

Now I'm glad hades didn't waste his time with this fucked up org

2024-07-04 22:55

2025 news be like : Liquid exit CCT groups with 0-5 record

2024-07-04 22:56

JOKEasteve did it agane !!

2024-07-04 22:58

couldve just got danistzz instead

2024-07-04 23:00

flair

2024-07-04 23:19

damn sherlock

2024-07-04 23:27

xdd

2024-07-04 23:07

Rainwaker had 1.20+ avg ratings against tier 3,4 as a rifler Ultimate 1.14 ratings as an awper I thought G2s management was already bad enough

2024-07-04 23:08

Who is ultimate? For the blind, He is the vision. For the hungry, He is the chef. For the thirsty, He is the water. If ultimate thinks, I agree. If ultimate speaks, I am listening. If ultimate has a million fans i am one of them . if ultimate has ten fans i am one of them. if ultimate has only one fan then that is me . if ultimate has no fans, that means i am no longer on this earth . if the world is against ultimate, i am against the world.

wtf

2024-07-04 23:09

Why would he downgrade?

2024-07-04 23:10

WHO

2024-07-04 23:12

Yeah nice one liquid just do a rainmaker and patsi part 2

2024-07-04 23:14

surely they meant Hades, right? now ay they want Ultimate (with all due respect to ultimate lol)

2024-07-04 23:18

how does NA have literary 0 new good talent, this is depressing

2024-07-04 23:20

Why not pick s1mple?

2024-07-04 23:24

1.000.000$+ vs 0$, what would you choose?

2024-07-05 09:21

One of the biggest orgs in cs2 with huge pockets, going for some randy in their latest delulu rebuild

guys surely this won't end bad Clueless

2024-07-04 23:28

NO FUCKING SHOT LIQUID IM DONE

2024-07-04 23:32

why not hades or someone?

2024-07-04 23:34

0.99 benched within 6 months nice one jokasteve manager of the millennium

Literally... who ? 💀💀💀 Bro this meme is real... Ultimate... the new rainmaker/patsi Why not... s1mple? Yekindar still contracted 💀💀💀💀💀

2024-07-04 23:46

s1mple = old, toxic. resentful and haven't even played serious CS2 match yet

2024-07-05 06:34

ultimate is stuck in polish t3 for years who thought its a good pick up i hate joke of a steve my god

2024-07-04 23:48

oh i remember him almost beat navi in that 10x overtime match once

2024-07-04 23:57

300 million people in America and not a single one of them can use the awp

2024-07-05 00:10

Didn’t Junior just top NA faceit this season so he should have been picked

bro forgot TL is also signing nitr0

2024-07-05 05:50

excuse me what in the actual fuck? i know NA is short for awpers... BUT DAMN

2024-07-05 00:11

Not even HLTV biggest baiters would come up with this

2024-07-05 00:12

Liquid are so fucking stupid man

Even Polish cs fans wouldn't put this guy in their team

2024-07-05 00:50

lol, liquid really trying everything but logical moves

2024-07-05 00:52

yekindar get farmed by him on pug, that's why

2024-07-05 01:00

Extra points for trying a different focus, not going for big names and check for new possible talents. I unironically like this move.

2024-07-05 01:06

How dare you thinking that Liquid's scouts actually know what they're doing?!

2024-07-05 06:33

I think I'm done with liquid at this point. Bring in a good na awper like Wolfy, he brings good impact.

2024-07-05 01:08

Wolfy xaxaxaxaxa

2024-07-05 06:12

they literally have same stats, but Wolfy is 5 year older well established player and ultimate is promising youngster - why would anyone pick Wolfy over ultimate?

2024-07-05 06:31

Wolfy performed good only with birdfromsky in his team

2024-07-05 09:24

birdfromsky to liquid

2024-07-05 10:43

What a joke, another tier 322 mafia player from eastern Europe. We all remember what happened to rainwaker, back too 500.

I am no hades fan but him alongside NAF could reach new heights because most of his weaknesses are caused by tilt. Plus, hades proved that he can pose good ratings against top30 competition, but I guess tier 3 polish awper it is??? Seriously wtf

2024-07-05 01:17

h4rn clears im afraid but since they had "bad" experience with rainwaker not happening. Therefor, Liquid will be dog shit!

2024-07-05 01:22

Unwanted Polish players ruining T1 teams and this transfer season, name a more iconic duo (other than TaZ and Mercedes)

2024-07-05 01:24

taz and pasha not talking.

2024-07-05 01:46

Jesus Christ Liquid

2024-07-05 01:30

I watch CS all day and even I haven't heard of this guy. How did Liquid scouts find him in the deepest of the jungles?

"I watch CS all day" name checks out

2024-07-05 02:15

based on nickname for him "watching CS" is probably staring at main menu

2024-07-05 06:26

If you watched cs you would know about him

2024-07-05 02:45

he say cs not cryptomatches

2024-07-05 05:14

let see this

2024-07-05 01:49

sad news Liquid is not t1 material

2024-07-05 02:06

LMAO So overdrive was right again

why not hades another rainwalker

2024-07-05 02:58

hades supposedly doesn't want to move to US

2024-07-05 06:24

Is it confirmed that they want to stay in US? Because if they do, they have even less chance to achieve anything.

2024-07-05 08:59

We are all operating on rumors here, what is actual is that he definitely said once on stream that he's not looking for international team and is more focused on finding Polish team, but he wasn't definitive on that either.

2024-07-05 14:31

maybe,someone said he would go to monte

2024-07-05 13:11

What’s up with liquid picking up another fixer lol like rainwaker wasn’t enough

2024-07-05 03:35

These guys are insane. Is this the best you’ve got?

2024-07-05 03:51

Liquid, if you want to take a free player, just pick me already 500$ per month will be more than enough

2024-07-05 04:24

Sorry, you need to be at least lvl3 faceit

I'm lvl4😎😎😎 They don't need my overskill

2024-07-05 11:54

you wish, that was once 2 years ago for a week, but you still tell everyone your top lvl, sad...

2024-07-05 14:26

Bro, I'm just joking and that's it I'm really lvl 4 on faceit

2024-07-05 14:54

Absolute mental what Liquid is doing, they are going to bet on a young player that hasn't even played a match against a top30 team in the past 2 years almost. If u are going for an EU awper, why not trying to sign Hades, Regali, Deko for example?. Like u have Try that is a promising young talent that can fill the americas spot, u aren't even considering his sign? Thank god i'm not a Liquid fan bro this management is fucking awful 💀💀

2024-07-05 04:29

I love how you know the guy better than Liquid's people XD anyway, they've tried at least Hades from names you've mentioned, but he doesn't want to move - maybe remaining had similar reasons.

2024-07-05 06:23

Deko earns more in 1xbet team than liquid can offer

Im not even going to lie... I've thought ultimate was severely underrated for at least 2 years now in the T2 scene.. hope it goes well for him, but I never pictured it being in an NA mix/intl. team.. Best of luck to Liquid and ultimate, but Liquid sucks eggs and I highly doubt if this is any form of solution

2024-07-05 05:02

wow, probably the only reasonable comment in this thread, the rest is like "I don't know this guy, so it's a bad move"

2024-07-05 06:21

The meatriding is insane

2024-07-07 00:05

Only upside I see to this is that it's a low risk and possibly high reward move, little to no buyout with the chance for him to develop into an above average player

2024-07-05 05:54

Ya that’s about it. It’s like buying a cheap car. Maybe you’ll get a few good years out of it. Or it could break down after year or two

2024-07-05 07:36

like rainwaker

2024-07-05 08:12

POGGERS

ahahahahahah pick phzy

2024-07-05 06:41

Overrated

2024-07-05 09:33

lol what?

What is wrong with CS scene lately, why are mediocre poles so needed? If you need an awper go for Hades or MHL at least.

2024-07-05 08:22

mhl was so solid , whats wrong with him now?

2024-07-05 09:59

Bad org choices i guess, he plays well but cant find stable roster.

2024-07-05 12:45

who the fuck is making 2018 cloud9 ass decisions on this team dude

2024-07-05 08:31

2024-07-05 08:53

AHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHH how the F is this even possible? you have naf and twistzz who are good and you fail to make decent team around them? twistzz probably hates himself right now for leaving faze/not joining vitality. im kinda sad for him but it is how it is. sad to waste your still decent years like that

2024-07-05 08:55

This dude was deemed too noob to play in genone (if you don't know this team; their are in ESEA advanced and not playing playoffs)

2024-07-05 09:13

Did they run out of money for hades or even MHL? MLWKY?

2024-07-05 09:31

Liquid transfers are really amazing except Twistzzz.

LMAOOOOO

2024-07-05 10:29

Rainwaker 2.0

2024-07-05 10:46

ok, weird move

2024-07-05 11:09

why sign ultimate when mhl is about?

hltv.org/stats/players/16847/mhl?csVersi.. + falcons holding him hostage

2024-07-05 11:26

2024-07-05 12:13

Liquid try not to assemble the most random squad ever challenge (impossible).

2024-07-05 12:54

ultimate is really fucking unimpressive, insane how Liquid are going for him

2024-07-05 13:33

Liquid are wasting the primes years of NAF and twistz, as a former liquid fan its really sad

2024-07-05 13:40

I mean you realize those two are calling the shots too. One of them was the reason they didnt try to get Elige back after the failed EU stint.

What in goddamn f is this abomination??

2024-07-05 13:52

Brazil got us 3 more major spots so Liquid can coast this half year, make the major, and make the investors happy with the returns. Then they sign the team they want after the major. Thats my guess anyway.

2024-07-06 17:06

Ultimate is NA cs saviour

XDDDD

2024-07-05 14:47

lmao

2024-07-05 18:01

Lmao I litteral demolished him on faceit, he's fucking bot, liquid sign me

2024-07-05 18:43

People dunking on G2 even though G2 one to one have upgraded their firepower considerably but liquid get a pass even though they are about to sign a nobody awper with Snax level stats.

2024-07-05 18:47

liquid trynna be like mouz lol

2024-07-05 20:18

polish oSee

2024-07-06 00:47

whew, no walls2k

2024-07-06 07:42

I wonder who on Liquid got farmed by him in FPL

2024-07-06 17:04

Liquid needs an adult in the room

2024-07-06 18:04

This the kinda shit that makes everyone clown on Liquid, rainwaker all over again, just some t4 nobody with stats that are barely impressive for that level, won't do anything

2024-07-06 18:22