mithR: "Twistzz has the potential to be one of the best IGLs we've ever seen"

The Danish coach also shared his first impressions of ultimate and jks.

mithR joined Liquid during the summer, replacing zews

New Liquid coach Torbjørn "⁠mithR⁠" Nyborg has heaped praise on Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken, saying that he believes the Canadian player can become one of the finest in-game leaders in the history of the game.

Twistzz has taken over the team's reins after an off-season rebuild that saw Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller, Felipe "⁠skullz⁠" Medeiros and head coach Wilton "⁠zews⁠" Prado depart the squad.

This will be Twistzz's first time leading a team, and many in the scene have expressed concern about how the role will impact a player who remains at the peak of his powers. The 24-year-old has appeared in five of the last six HLTV Top 20 rankings, and he averaged an impressive 1.22 rating during a frustrating season for Liquid.

mithR admitted that he, too, had some reservations at first about Twistzz's decision to become the IGL, but he is now amazed at how natural the role seems to feel for the Canadian.

"When I first heard he was going to be ingame leader, I was actually a bit nervous and wasn’t sure this was the right choice," mithR told HLTV. "I had seen before people who thought they wanted to be in-game leader, but then they had to show up prepared every time for practice or official, so they have the full responsibility. It is very cool in the beginning, but not much fun when it becomes your everyday.

"After having worked three weeks with Twistzz, my impression right now is that he has the potential to become one of the biggest and best in-game leaders we’ve ever seen. My reason is that his calling is very clear and he has a great ability to learn from mistakes, understand what to do better and receive input, filter it, and match it to his vision of the game.

"This is not something I have experienced on this level before. And I say this as someone who has worked with a lot of in-game leaders in my career."

Liquid's signing of Roland "⁠ultimate⁠" Tomkowiak as the new AWPer is widely regarded as a big gamble. The Polish player has never competed at the highest level, with the upcoming BLAST Premier Fall Groups being only his second LAN event on record.

mithR understands the skepticism around ultimate but argues that Twistzz did "a really great scouting job" to find the Polish player.

"It is not a coincidence the choice fell on him," he noted. "When I talked to Twistzz about how he had seen ultimate's demos and why he decided it should be him, I had no reason not to believe him.

"When I saw his demos, my impression was of course very positive. His mechanical level is very high. Time will tell if he is ready for tier 1 — it is something different. I absolutely think he is going to be challenged in a way he is not used to.

"There are some tendencies and habits in tier 1 you can’t get away with the same way you can in tier 2. But from what I have seen the last two/three weeks in practice, he has convinced me and the team that he has got what is needed."

mithR says the team is convinced ultimate "has got what Is needed" for tier 1 CS

Liquid have been placed in Group D of the BLAST Premier Fall Groups, along with Natus Vincere, BIG and Virtus.pro. Wednesday's series against the Russian side will be Justin "⁠jks⁠" Savage's first competitive match in almost ten months, and mithR admitted that the Australian is still trying to rediscover his best form.

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19:30
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"The first two weeks, there was quite a big development in his level," mithR said. "He has gotten some roles that are new for him, and it has been some time since he last played at the highest level on a team level.

"It's nice that he kept up his level and is very familiar with CS2 by playing a lot of FACEIT. But playing on a team is different. From what I have seen and the development I’ve seen, the last two weeks have been really positive."

Brazil Wilton 'zews' Prado
Wilton 'zews' Prado
Age:
36
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.80
Maps played:
142
KPR:
0.53
DPR:
0.69
Poland Roland 'ultimate' Tomkowiak
Roland 'ultimate' Tomkowiak
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
243
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.65
Brazil Felipe 'skullz' Medeiros
Felipe 'skullz' Medeiros
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
731
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.63
Australia Justin 'jks' Savage
Justin 'jks' Savage
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1359
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.63
Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
1726
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
Denmark Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1783
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.62
#1
Jee | 
Poland Nalax
holy thats cope
2024-07-28 22:30
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#16
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Germany Gabbah
I mean we dont know until we see new Liquid play tbf
2024-07-28 22:37
62
12 replies
npc
2024-07-28 22:39
5
2 replies
#71
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Germany Gabbah
okay mr RolexOnMyWrist
2024-07-28 23:33
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1 reply
ratioed him fr
2024-07-29 07:56
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#37
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Sweden Vrede
G2-0 Nip
2024-07-28 22:54
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4 replies
#70
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Germany Gabbah
huh?
2024-07-28 23:32
0
3 replies
#77
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Sweden Vrede
Snax hungry
2024-07-28 23:52
3
2 replies
#86
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Germany Gabbah
I mean they will prob loose to G2 but what has that got to do with anything xd
2024-07-29 00:27
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1 reply
#88
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Sweden Vrede
i hope r1nkle stays calm, not malding :d
2024-07-29 00:38
7
how does Mithr even know that he is working with one of the best IGLs? From experience, when he coached kyxsan? or Dexter? or Valde? or MSL?
2024-07-28 22:59
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#69
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Germany Gabbah
karrigan, and dexster in mouz; valde and MSL in North; kyxsan in Apex thats a pretty good list of different IGL's to judge upon.
2024-07-28 23:32
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1 reply
#117
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Other Zollbit
1 month with MSL and 3 months (including winter break) with Karrigan. I don't think that really counts.
2024-07-29 09:04
3
BEST IGL: siuhy when he coached him?
2024-07-28 23:57
0
seems pretty reasonable to me, like "he is good, but time will tell if ultimate is ready for tier1" so no outright glazing like with skullz and rainwaker
2024-07-28 22:41
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#96
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Latvia DROPDEADLV
what did he smoke before making this statement ?
2024-07-29 02:14
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1 reply
#97
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United States Sike1289
whatever it is, he still knows more about CS than you, me or anyone else on this forum
2024-07-29 04:07
4
Axaxaxaxaxa
2024-07-28 22:30
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#3
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China RADNIKEY
Well let's see if he meets that potential
2024-07-28 22:31
3
Someone is in love with the coco
2024-07-28 22:31
7
Always the jinx. Just stfu and let it play out :)
2024-07-28 22:32
5
i guess he didnt see many IGLs
2024-07-28 22:32
16
4 replies
He said twistzz is on another level compared to - cadian - msl700$coursemerchant - karrigan - dexter - kyxsan faze should've just kicked karriBOT, make twistzz igl and get joel
2024-07-28 23:01
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#90
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Hungary colbyak
+1
2024-07-29 01:17
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#92
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Yugoslavia kinetiQQ
Joel haha
2024-07-29 01:23
3
#132
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Cuba Dyabolic
On Skype or on the team?
2024-07-29 23:31
0
#7
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Romania Jumps7yl3r
Hey...hopefulness is a choice. You made it. Live with it.
2024-07-28 22:32
2
gl
2024-07-28 22:33
1
this will age well
2024-07-28 22:34
1
GL Russell and Liquid
2024-07-28 22:35
2
Glazing this snake is crazy
2024-07-28 22:35
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5 replies
#20
Faceit level 10  | 
rain | 
Czech Republic hrozenbuzen
twistzz a snake?
2024-07-28 22:39
1
3 replies
ye. First he called karrigan old, now cadian lazy.
2024-07-28 22:49
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2 replies
#66
Faceit level 10  | 
rain | 
Czech Republic hrozenbuzen
karrigan is infact the oldest t1 pro alongside with snappi, when did he call cadian lazy?
2024-07-28 23:29
0
1 reply
2024-07-29 00:04
1
Gotta be willing to do anything to keep your new job
2024-07-29 01:22
1
no way
2024-07-28 22:35
0
npc cheerleader coach confirmed?
2024-07-28 22:35
3
#17
Faceit level 9  | 
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Brazil lilpeepBigCityBlues
blud is afraid after zews got fired
2024-07-28 22:37
6
#18
Faceit level 10  | 
rain | 
Czech Republic hrozenbuzen
that has been said so many times about so many players it doesnt mean anything anymore
2024-07-28 22:38
7
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
2024-07-28 22:40
2
alwaya gotta put the ceiling so fucking high beforehand so no matter what you do you will fail
2024-07-28 22:40
4
#23
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Bwills | 
Canada cdiixon
ez 4 canada
2024-07-28 22:40
2
#25
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Scotland LinInABin
"Why the fuck you lyinggg"
2024-07-28 22:41
1
ahahhahaahahahh yea sure...heard the same about elec LMAO
2024-07-28 22:42
1
L take. in theory i could be the IGL too as a 30yr old talent i just never got given a chance:(
2024-07-28 22:43
1
#28
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United States ddown
this will age so well
2024-07-28 22:43
0
XDDDD
2024-07-28 22:44
0
2024-07-28 22:44
4
already with the fucking delusional takes calm down and manage your expectations buddy, you're working with a tier 2 team
2024-07-28 22:47
5
#32
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United States moose1337
fuuuuccck. why would he say this? ggs boys..
2024-07-28 22:48
1
blade said this about electronic, and we see how that turned out lol
2024-07-28 22:53
1
5 replies
electroNic wasn't a bad iGL tbh. Didn't electroNic say he quit because he was too emotional?
2024-07-29 07:14
0
4 replies
His IGLing failed to work in 2 different teams under 2 different coaches who had coached very successful teams before. You can see a clear difference in navi when boombl4 was igl and after electronic took over although they also had other issues because no real aggressive entry with the lack of boombl4, and ofc theres the whole war to consider which was a big hit to the team as a whole but regardless, the same situation repeated in c9 when boombl4 took over they looked much better despite lacking a primary AWP (and most people do not consider boombl4 a top tier igl either)
2024-07-29 07:52
1
3 replies
Your being disingenuous. He was fine in NaVi under Blad3.
2024-07-29 10:15
0
2 replies
hltv.org/stats/players/8918/electronic?s.. 2021 electronic hltv.org/stats/players/8918/electronic?s.. 2022 electronic You can see his fragging took a big hit after he became igl and its not like he was the best caller either
2024-07-29 12:54
1
1 reply
I was referring to his calling. We ain't gonna pretend he was a bad caller under Blad3. His calling was more than okay for a transitioning player. And now he seems to be back in form at VP.
2024-07-29 13:55
0
#35
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Sweden Vrede
LOL
2024-07-28 22:53
0
I think Twistzz will always be a good caller, just I do not think he has an aura of a natural leader. To use a modern language cool kids use these days, he's too much of a beta. But y'know, it can still work if coach has that aura, you could say NaVi works that way where Aleksi is a caller but b1ad3 is a leader. In Faze Karrigan is an obvious leader and a caller, Neo does some calling during timeouts but as far as I heard he doesn't lead. I even heard him ask Finn if he can suggest a strat. Meanwhile, I do not think b1ad3 asks to do anything in NaVi. GL to Twistzz, I hope he finds a matching coach who compliments him.
2024-07-28 22:54
2
2 replies
neo is more like a guiding light for the team
2024-07-28 23:01
0
1 reply
After NEO joined karrigan said in interviews and vlogs that neo has been very helpful in coming up with game plans and you certainly see it after frozen joined. He certainly plays more than a guiding light figure
2024-07-28 23:56
0
Don't give me reason to hope. I won't be able to handle the disappointment.
2024-07-28 22:55
0
7 replies
No. Follow your heart. Be high on the hopium. We only live once and Twistzz is a great dude. I'm rooting for him with everything I got, and if it doesn't work out he can still go back to being a pure rifler.
2024-07-29 07:18
1
6 replies
This is the inspiration I needed today to find the courage to get my heart broken again
2024-07-29 17:29
2
5 replies
I just dropped by to remind you to lock in 🔐. If we die we die
2024-08-01 22:40
2
4 replies
locked in and ready to die. my heart is yours liquid
2024-08-01 23:15
1
3 replies
That's the energy. We haven't truly lived if we haven't really loved
2024-08-02 10:30
1
2 replies
I could cry
2024-08-04 00:39
0
1 reply
We used to pray for days like this 🙏🏾
2024-08-04 07:52
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#39
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Europe Zwenix
This guy..
2024-07-28 22:56
0
#40
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Freezak
It's really hard to play against Liquid, i don't think they have a weakness in the team now.
2024-07-28 22:56
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3 replies
kekindar
2024-07-28 23:00
2
mate this aint 2010
2024-07-28 23:54
0
1 reply
#106
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Europe Freezak
But Taz said this in 2024
2024-07-29 07:11
0
#41
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Europe tsken
It's statements like these that will haunt you forever! :D
2024-07-28 22:58
0
Let's calm down with the PR statements. I remember Twistzz saying that cadian was a "top 2 IGL" when he joined, now he is benched apparently because the players didn't really like his way of playing. I can just never take statements like this seriously for that reason, it is getting a little tiring. But I will extend belief in mithr this one time, is he is right, then good! Regards
2024-07-28 22:58
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1 reply
Dont believe in him believe in me, i will treat you right party astronauts best team in 2025 Regards :D
2024-07-29 06:08
0
#43
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United States AJR123123
i wish they would stop saying stuff like this, twistzz was glazing cadian after like 3 weeks too
2024-07-28 22:58
0
that's what blad3 said to electronic
2024-07-28 23:00
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Problem is, electronic was good under B1ad3's guidance
2024-07-28 23:00
0
12 replies
electronic is mid as an igl under blad3,and he got exposed in cloud9 without b1ad3's help
2024-07-28 23:02
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11 replies
That's what I actually say, and btw u cant call any IGL mid after Cologne finals, Spring finals win and playoffs of a major.
2024-07-28 23:09
0
10 replies
he is mid tho,he won spring finals because teams didn't know how they would play,but after their cologne finals,electronic has become mid as an igl and a rifler
2024-07-28 23:12
0
9 replies
Him being Mid IGL without B1ad3 is facts, u der B1ad3 I cant agree. NaVi still had a structure and played in a system, thats not what you can say for Cloud9 tho.
2024-07-28 23:18
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8 replies
therefore electronic is not an igl material,he needs a coach to help him,not saying igls with coach's help are useless,but he couldn't even replicate his experience as an igl in navi to c9
2024-07-28 23:39
0
7 replies
Surprise surprise. Local man just discovered IGLs need a coach to help them develop a system and complement their style. By your own logic, Gla1ve isn't IGL material because he was good under Zonic. Or Snappi isn't a good IGL because he hasn't been good without sAw.
2024-07-29 07:23
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6 replies
or you should say gla1ve is already outdated,yes he did have success in astralis,but ever since zonic left the team he hasn't achieved anything.Electronic has never proven he is an igl
2024-07-29 09:03
0
5 replies
#54 proves a lot about his system.
2024-07-29 09:41
0
4 replies
no just honeymoon
2024-07-29 10:53
0
3 replies
half a year is honeymoon?
2024-07-29 13:38
0
2 replies
they didn't even win anything after that,just always making it to playoffs,but electronic is still mid as an igl
2024-07-29 14:28
0
1 reply
"Just always making it to playoffs" bro some teams cant even make playoffs consistently with proven rosters but electronic making it is just mid
2024-07-29 14:34
0
Ok after this I want this Liquid to fail jost as a proof this can't be true
2024-07-28 23:00
1
hope its true but probably not
2024-07-28 23:03
0
#53
Faceit level 6  | 
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Serbia Dinarska_divizija
Bro glazing hard
2024-07-28 23:05
1
1 reply
Good name btw
2024-07-28 23:09
1
#56
JW | 
United States JW_belly
gg twistzz cursed
2024-07-28 23:10
1
1 reply
nobody except for NiKo has recovered from igl syndrome
2024-07-28 23:12
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"potential" yap yap yap
2024-07-28 23:13
0
2024-07-28 23:15
0
GL
2024-07-28 23:22
0
This is gonna age so badly :(
2024-07-28 23:30
0
saying something like this before they even played match, ok bro
2024-07-28 23:31
0
Cap
2024-07-28 23:33
0
#73
Faceit level 7  | 
Bonfire | 
San Marino twovetti
electronic all again
2024-07-28 23:37
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#75
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Denmark Fenix7
I no longer believe in such statements, they always end in failure.
2024-07-28 23:43
0
damnn
2024-07-28 23:47
0
#81
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Finland Misttaa
And I have potential to be the donk rival :p
2024-07-28 23:58
0
#83
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden Hasklon
Calm down, you have worked with him for 3 weeks, why say something like this
2024-07-29 00:08
0
#84
Faceit level 8  | 
DZ | 
Algeria SilverQuick
He can be a good IGL he has the qualities for it that's for sure.
2024-07-29 00:12
0
As a Faze fanboy, super excited to see Twistzz in this role. I didn't have any faith in the cadiaN roster going into it -- but this sounds like a solid system
2024-07-29 00:18
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#87
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Ireland Fl0werz
this cant end well
2024-07-29 00:34
0
#89
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United States kamenator
rip liquid
2024-07-29 01:06
0
So is electronic
2024-07-29 01:25
0
#95
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Europe BabyWizard
Torbjørn! At your service!
2024-07-29 02:07
0
#98
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
steel | 
Canada steell
Twistzz top 5 player and top 2 igl next year after steel
2024-07-29 05:29
0
They laughed at him because he spoke truth. Twistzz will bring Liquid to its past glory, I trust mr. Van Dulken
2024-07-29 06:13
2
ok but you've seen only sense and dexter
2024-07-29 06:35
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#102
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England BobDude65
Sorry MithR, didn't quite hear what you said. Can you take Twistzz's balls out of your mouth and say it again please?
2024-07-29 06:41
0
Omg a coach praising on his IGL, we haven't seen this before . Lets see how they do it , don't have too high expectations from them in Blast .
2024-07-29 06:44
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#104
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Taiwan iloviz
Russel 'TwoFacedzz' Toledo
2024-07-29 06:46
3
twistzz has potential to be a clown, never seen a player this attention-hungry before in cs
2024-07-29 06:57
1
and who's mithr? lmao
2024-07-29 08:04
0
if yekindar can return to form and be a useful 2nd caller, while ultimate turns out to be a tier 1 awper. this team can be solid. in order to events yekindar would have to return to form and ultimate would have to be a broky lvl awper.
2024-07-29 08:07
0
This will age nicely lmao
2024-07-29 08:34
0
#115
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Other Zollbit
"This is not something I have experienced on this level before. And I say this as someone who has worked with a lot of in-game leaders in my career." Isn't the best IGL he's had dexter?
2024-07-29 08:59
0
After Niko :)
2024-07-29 10:54
0
After NiKo and Yekindar, yes.
2024-07-29 15:34
0
if he doesnt have this much confidence in his players, he shouldnt be coach. or at least def not say anything negative. I have high hopes. im being optimistic
2024-07-29 15:38
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#131
Faceit level 9  | 
Twistzz | 
Canada PurgeIWNL
This kinda sucks because now with these big statements it puts more pressure on the team to do well, and people will be quicker to scrutinize Twistzz and Ultimate for not having instant success
2024-07-29 17:34
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