joel denies cheating as Akros shares new details behind the ban

The company behind the anti-cheat that banned joel has revealed new details to HLTV about what it had allegedly detected. The Swede denies the claims.

The Counter-Strike scene was taken by storm on Sunday when news broke that BC.Game player Joel "⁠joel⁠" Holmlund had been banned by third-party anticheat Akros ahead of his team's match against B8 in CCT Europe Series 7.

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This came after joel had long been a target of broad cheating and match-fixing accusations. In 2023, he was suspended by ESIC for seven months for placing bets on his own matches, though the watchdog stressed no conclusive evidence of match-fixing was found.

When it came to joel's Akros ban, little was shared at the time about the nature of it other than the company behind the anti-cheat claiming there was "zero chance" that it was a false-positive occurrence. BC.Game had also stressed they had stayed "in the dark" about the details behind the ban while they launched their own investigation into the matter.

But HLTV has now received more information from Akros about what was detected and when, and joel has also responded to the claims.

"Features [of the detected cheat] include ESP, Aimbot and Triggerbot"

According to 'Tristan C.', a representative from the Akros company, the ban occurred after joel launched the game through the anti-cheat less than 30 minutes before the match against B8 was scheduled to begin. The Swede was then prohibited from entering the server as a result before the match even began.

The exact cheat that had allegedly been detected was not named, but the representative listed the following features of it:

"Features include ESP (a type of wallhack), Aimbot and Triggerbot. Each feature has additional customization, for the aim assistance and triggerbot it can be customized to look more human-like and, if not configured poorly, would be completely invisible to the human eye. Not all features need to be used, for example, a player might only use the Triggerbot or only use the Aimbot or only use the ESP."

The representative also shared it is a cheat anyone can purchase and that it is "meant for competitive play on third party leagues and advertises Akros undetection status." He further elaborated it is a "bootkit" type cheat that is launched before the operating system, and which can only be removed or unloaded by restarting the operating system at the bare minimum.

Furthermore, he says the same cheat could have gone undetected in the past: "The cheat could have been used before without being detected. The fact that we didn't detect its presence in matches prior to August 4 does not prove it wasn't present earlier, as this type of cheat is notoriously difficult to identify."

"I know I have not cheated or planned to do so"

In a response to the ban in a comment to HLTV, joel has vehemently denied that he had cheated or that he had planned to do so, which the pre-emptive ban implies:

"I know I have not cheated or planned to do so," he said. "I love to play the game. If I'm not playing CS2, I'm watching it to become better. To now have people doubting my legitimacy is the worst part. I've seen some people react to my demos; I don't mind if they look for something suspicious since everything I do in-game has its explanation. I've even seen some clips floating around that some say are "sus," while there are Teamspeak recordings of information being said that I react on.

"What does hurt, though, is when people prematurely say I'm doing something suspicious in-game because they think I know where the enemy is in an unnatural way, saying I used radar hacks or any form of cheats, which is not true. Those that play with me in teams know that I have a vision of how to play the game, that I'm very vocal in-game, and that can easily be seen when talking to me about the game. There wouldn't be a reason for me to suddenly turn on cheats, but people don't look at it from different angles and just assume I'm a cheater. I've already proven myself on LAN, even though it was some time ago now, and I can replicate that performance."

When asked specifically whether he had a cheat loaded on his machine at the time of the ban, joel also responded negatively: "No, I did not."

"Makes no sense on why I would cheat now when I finally have received a chance to redeem myself. I am more driven than ever to play Counter-Strike and compete. My goal has been to reach the top level of the scene and thanks to all the resources I’ve been given in this team, it makes no sense for me to throw it all away by cheating."

joel did not have an explanation for why the ban might have been triggered and only declined the notion that it had anything to do with the latest update to the anti-cheat released on the same day he was banned, which introduced compatibility with the Memory Integrity setting on Windows.

When asked about his further plans, joel stressed his intention to continue playing: "I hope to resolve this matter since I've never cheated in a match, despite what some people claim. I still love to play the game, and I hope that's what I can continue to do in some way."

Overturning the ban doesn't look possible, however. The Akros representative shared that it is permanent and that joel won't be able to participate in any event or platform that is Akros-protected ever again.

BC.Game also appear to be moving on from the controversial Swede. "As it stands right now we are still in the dark on the truth of the situation and therefore our best course of action is that Joel will remain removed from the team," a statement the organization released on X reads.

"We are actively searching for a permanent replacement to maintain our competitive edge. We are dedicated to full transparency with our community and will provide an update on our current roster in the near future."

Sweden Joel 'joel' Holmlund
Joel 'joel' Holmlund
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
436
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.67
stop the cap
2024-08-07 23:15
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bro used a public cheat 🤣💀 "The representative also shared it is a cheat anyone can purchase and that it is "meant for competitive play on third party leagues and advertises Akros undetection status.""
2024-08-07 23:25
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#75
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Germany Gabbah
I swear you cant make this shit up. Such a 0 content statement by joel too lmao
2024-08-08 00:03
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I mean what else is he supposed to say lol The only way for him to convince some people is to start recording/streaming his every game with cameras around him. First camera with a view from the back of his set up. Second camera with view of his screen(s). Third camera view of his desk from the top. Fourth camera on him. On top of playing in guardian's bedroom, not on his PC and hardware and he is not left alone with the pc at any time. If he does that and BC plays with him in tournaments that aren't using akros and he's still doing numbers, then maybe he'll convince some people to his innocence, other than that, he's free to write on steam forums that he has been wrongly banned.
2024-08-08 00:17
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#99
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Bhutan r4ven_
what is blud wafflin about
2024-08-08 01:09
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#104
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Estonia LfLion
Wbu aim assist ? Can't prove that with camera lol
2024-08-08 01:16
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#114
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Yugoslavia Oopsie
What? "not on his pc and hardware". So not his pc, not his mouse, keyboard or monitor. And if he is constantly being monitored, how is he supposed to get aim assist?
2024-08-08 01:30
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Someone will have to make sure word.exe has been uninstalled from not only the computer he uses but within a 5 mile radius as well
2024-08-08 06:04
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#148
Faceit level 8 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
zont1x | 
Russia shoras
He's gonna get neuralink and put cheats on it.
2024-08-08 07:10
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#166
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Netherlands p2dr
Proving you are a good player without cheats doesn't inherently clear you of cheating at some other moment
2024-08-08 08:59
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CDhack lmao
2024-08-08 07:41
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he is innocent tho
2024-08-09 11:44
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Poland Nalax
just ban him forever
2024-08-07 23:15
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#186
Jee | 
Sweden 7emod
Dude got like 9 lives
2024-08-08 11:05
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#3
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United States @@@@
sure bro everyone believes you
2024-08-07 23:16
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#4
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Sweden slyde123
If he isn’t cheating, feels bad. If he is- good riddance.
2024-08-07 23:16
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I mean he's a proven scammer he should have been exiled since 2021 but now we're here discussing if he deserved a ban or not
2024-08-07 23:17
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#58
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Sweden slyde123
Oh I completely agree, he was almost assuredly cheating. I don’t like him regardless if he is or isn’t.
2024-08-07 23:47
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Now you're talking some real sh't bro
2024-08-07 23:52
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Curious what you meant by "scammer" bc i have no clue who this kid is or anything thats happened previously... Just wondering what else dudes done to earn his reputation
2024-08-08 01:12
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#159
Faceit level 10  | 
FalleN | 
China EilrahC
I heard it was like 7-8 years ago. He lost around 60k worth of skins which he borrowed from others thru gamba
2024-08-08 08:19
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Didn't godsent pay up his debts basically so he could play for them? Ironically he was probably cheating all along.
2024-08-08 14:28
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#102
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United States flipfone
maybe one of the Akros employees is someone that got scammed by him and they are now framing him as revenge
2024-08-08 01:12
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so is s1mple. he should have been banned aswell
2024-08-08 08:47
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Never heard abt s1mple scamming ppl
2024-08-08 10:04
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It was back in like 2014-2016 if not even earlier. There's even a story how Liquid made him return everything (or at least pay damages I would assume) when he played for them because they care about reputation of their players
2024-08-08 10:29
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And this is people's goat? Nah fuck him dev1ce is me goat
2024-08-08 10:50
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the biggest people in the scene get away with everything. it will be the same with mrbeast and logan paul
2024-08-08 10:55
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I don't watch international yt but I can tell you that I know a guy who checks out in what y said perfectly : Jon "Bones" Jones to be exact
2024-08-08 11:32
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#224
Faceit level 10  | 
XigN | 
United States LiVitShiro
He was also banned by ESL wire anti cheat and couldn't play for a while. Maybe the prophecy being written for Joel to become #1 after this.
2024-08-08 15:42
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Yep, and later also banned for ban evasion. That ban was a problem for Hellraisers, for example, as they needed to use substitutes for him all the time for ESL events. Well, at least back then it wasn't just ESL, so it wasn't like every second or even more frequent than that tournament
2024-08-08 16:08
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I bet he mindlesly clicked on those fake stream giveaways
2024-08-08 10:35
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how old are you? 12? its not even a secret that he scammed alot of his fanboys in the past... you are such a big l
2024-08-08 10:54
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Yes!
2024-08-08 16:37
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"if he isn't cheating" In 2023 "Joel was betting decent amount of money on HIS team to win"? Puts the buck for his team to win, turn on the cheat - easy money..
2024-08-08 09:41
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#227
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Sweden slyde123
2024-08-08 17:31
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I trust an AC more than the words of a matchfixer and a scammer
2024-08-07 23:16
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Finally a normal swede who sees how big of a pos joel is, you earned a +1
2024-08-07 23:18
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facts
2024-08-07 23:37
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this guy
2024-08-07 23:17
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perma ban this guy
2024-08-07 23:17
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#9
Faceit level 8  | 
Miami | 
Sweden SavageSven
Holy moly
2024-08-07 23:18
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#10
Faceit level 10  | 
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United States |Scy|
womp womp
2024-08-07 23:18
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#11
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United States revokefps
> Akros AC elaborated it is a "bootkit" type cheat that is launched before the operating system, and which can only be removed or unloaded by restarting the operating system at the bare minimum. > Joel declined the notion that it had anything to do with the latest update to the anti-cheat released on the same day he was banned, which introduced compatibility with the Memory Integrity setting on Windows. yeah it's over. pretty much confirms that it was a bootkit cheat and the reason he was never caught before by the AC is because they just updated it to scan windows memory integrity settings which makes it possible to detect bootkit programs.
2024-08-07 23:27
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#76
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Germany Gabbah
Dont know why he even commented tbh. it only made it worse lol
2024-08-08 00:04
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#78
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United States revokefps
in all honesty he probably didn't read the patch notes for the AC and when it was brought up in interview went "ummm no!" before realizing that Akros already commented on exactly how it got detected which is super damning.
2024-08-08 00:07
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i believe him
2024-08-07 23:18
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invite him to the faceit hq, same thing ropz had to do
2024-08-07 23:19
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#62
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Sweden Madrigals1
ropz was not banned by a legit AC, people just suspected he is cheater, because he was good. Imagine inviting kqly to prove, that he didn't cheat
2024-08-07 23:50
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Or forsaken LOL
2024-08-08 04:19
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#237
Faceit level 8 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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North America Kropsinz
Or Subroza.
2024-08-09 08:14
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It wouldn't prove anything. In many different games there have been hundreds of examples of highly skilled players who can play their game of choice at an exceptionally high level but they still ended up cheating. It's most likely that Joel has the skills of a high semi-pro level player, you may ask "Why would a person whos got semi-pro level skills cheat?" and one of the possible answers is that it could be to make him more consistent, everyone has ups and downs in their game, the best players are the ones who can minimise the dips in performance and using a cheat would definitely help with that.
2024-08-07 23:54
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#164
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Other KittyVN
The easy answer is he doesn't want to be just semi pro but the best as with a lot of professionals as that is in their nature when competing just that most don't start cheating to get there
2024-08-08 08:51
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so he wants to be the best but skipping LAN at the same time?
2024-08-08 15:24
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#167
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Netherlands p2dr
Probably just lazy as fuck and doesn't want to put in the work to practice
2024-08-08 09:02
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#80
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Poland BAN_ANIME
thats... not gonna help?
2024-08-08 00:08
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For real f this joel guy forever… ibuypower got banned for so much lest f@ckery… this dude is the pure esential of why t2-3… online cs is cancer and they roth the hole scene. No wonder why no real team (t1) picks him up even tho he has better numbers than any pro that came from similar teams in the past.
2024-08-07 23:19
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ibuypower were unlucky to be used as an example, but agreed that there needs to be harsher punnishments for cheating/matchfixing
2024-08-07 23:22
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Yeah it's fucking sad how Valve banned iBP and ruined so many potential NA prospects just to "make an example out of them" for matchfixing and fast forward 2024 and entire t2-t3 scene is riddled with matchfixing and cheaters left and right. Matchfixers and cheaters just adapted to make it way less obvious and get away for so long.
2024-08-08 04:23
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flair
2024-08-08 08:57
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hes right tho
2024-08-08 15:14
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#16
Faceit level 10  | 
Denmark kasper123gta
Just put the fries in the bag bro
2024-08-07 23:19
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#60
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Romania Jumps7yl3r
and don't forget to add salt and pepper
2024-08-07 23:48
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#17
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Finland Misttaa
Because he would just admit to it.... ban this guy asap
2024-08-07 23:20
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Master of being a lil silly
2024-08-07 23:20
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#19
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Twistzz | 
United States plsnopermaban
of course he denies it, otherwise he could be sued into oblivion for every bit of prize money he's ever won
2024-08-07 23:21
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#20
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United Kingdom Revvylo
he was framed, justice for joel
2024-08-07 23:21
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#70
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Sweden albidalbi
This was a manual ban from someone in the akros team. The hate against Joel as always been insane. Sad that someone bans him and destroy his future, Pure evil...
2024-08-07 23:59
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#135
Faceit level 10  | 
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Yugoslavia bigtito
cope
2024-08-08 03:59
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Some hunden-esque lying going on over here
2024-08-07 23:21
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#112
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Slovakia GloryMole
you mean heroic-esque?
2024-08-08 01:28
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No, he means Hunden, the cheater and insider info trader.
2024-08-08 13:08
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#22
Faceit level 10  | 
roeJ | 
Romania ryad_0192
i want a mcchicken, medium fries and a sprite please
2024-08-07 23:21
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lemme get a happy meal also
2024-08-07 23:30
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sprite bros unite
2024-08-08 01:07
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stupid cheater.. trying everything to continue his cheating carrer
2024-08-07 23:22
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"I'm not a cheater" Source? "Trust me bro" GL in your next career Joel! Hopefully you've got a backup plan.
2024-08-07 23:23
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fish and fries plan
2024-08-07 23:25
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#61
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Romania Jumps7yl3r
I mean...you can't really prove you don't cheat. It's on the other party to do so. Not saying he didn't cheat, but you shouldn't be proving your innocence, the others should prove your guilt.
2024-08-07 23:49
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#198
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Spain ousi
The anticheat already banned him, what more do u need?
2024-08-08 12:54
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#232
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Romania Jumps7yl3r
i don't need anything. Read my comment again. That is how any proper justice system works.
2024-08-08 21:40
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"Hey joel how do you explain getting banned right after Akros AC got a new update that specifically detects bootkit cheat designed to bypass Akros in particular?" "Must've been a sun ray flipping the bit on my PC when i booted up the game" ????????????????????????????
2024-08-08 14:49
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I feel bad for Joel. What a waste of talent. The reason he got so many chances was because people people believed in his talent and thought he could be saved. But he can't be helped if he lacks character, unfortunately. Honesty and integrity are irreducible minimums.
2024-08-07 23:23
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I don't feel bad for him at all, he did a stupid thing believing he's invincible. I feel bad for CS, he's obviously not a bad player without cheats so it's a waste. Also it's bad that he can play on Faceit. And he's not VAC banned so he can actually play in a motherfucking major of all things. This calls for changes in some rules and better connection between TO's and partners, mainly the unified blacklist of AC companies.
2024-08-07 23:46
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No decent org is going to touch him with a 10 ft pole. No one wants to be stained with cheating allegations and have people doubting your results because you have a suspected cheater in your team. Joel has had enough chances but he scammed, match fixed, and cheated his way out of those opportunities. No way he gets another chance.
2024-08-08 11:18
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Wait until Astralis signs him AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2024-08-08 14:50
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Bold coming from someone with the flair of a match fixer
2024-08-08 15:08
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ok HUNDEN
2024-08-08 15:29
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I don't feel bad for him at all. Cheating is a cancer, but cheating in the competitive sphere is total AIDS. People like him cause untold damage to this game and e-sports as a whole.
2024-08-07 23:56
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#87
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Sweden albidalbi
He is not cheating, no public cheat work on faceit especially so cheap. This was clearly a set up from someone in the akros team. He was good on lan no reason to cheat. And no demos are suspicious.
2024-08-08 00:29
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He was playing on CCT not FaceIt. Re your comments on Akros, I don’t think you understand how organisations like these work.
2024-08-08 00:34
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#92
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Sweden albidalbi
Did I say that he got banned on faceit?
2024-08-08 00:43
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You implied that, if he was cheating, then he would have been cheating in every match, eg on FaceIt. That’s dumb. He might use it in some leagues and not in others. The cheat he used advertised itself as Akros proof - which it, until earlier that day, was - but he just happened to have a game scheduled on an Akros secured server after Akros was updated to catch his cheat. Unlucky timing for him, lucky timing for everyone else.
2024-08-08 00:50
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The guy clearly didn't read the article where it said it was advertised as Akros undetectable. He's probably a conspiracy theory loon who believes in flat earth too, clearly a set up from the globe earthers.
2024-08-08 08:51
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Honestly, I don't know what boggles the mind more: the fact that there are people actually defending this guy, or the fact that these people seem to think that there are any grounds to actually defend this guy.
2024-08-08 15:13
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found the cheater
2024-08-08 01:53
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hey joel
2024-08-08 07:50
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Please bro believe me. I not cheat. It was Akros set up. Plez no ban. I only matchfixed to feed my kids. Plez give another chance!
2024-08-08 09:06
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You can't defend cheating bro. And no one said he wasn't a good player. But talent without character won't take you far. Joel is talented but he prolly doesn't want to grind the game to get better like other pros and it might be the reason he wants to cut corners by using cheats. Why would he even have cheats in his pc if he's not cheating?
2024-08-08 11:25
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#83
Faceit level 10  | 
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Serbia nnikolaS
what fucking talent lol he was just a regular upcomer with nothing particularly crazy about him that would make you turn your head almost nobody cared about him until all the controversies
2024-08-08 00:16
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#172
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Finland Palomies
He is not the type you should feel sorry for. It's not even him being weak, at this point it is clear he just doesn't give a fuck and will keep on fucking people over for his own gain, unless he is booted out of the scene.
2024-08-08 09:28
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You got to feel sorry for him because of the many chances he's squandered. Not everyone has this luxury. He got some of the best people in the scene believing in him and wanting to help him but he can't be saved.
2024-08-08 11:28
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#195
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Finland Palomies
Aha, I think we just understand "feeling sorry for someone" differently.
2024-08-08 12:31
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Maybe, because I didn't mean he's a little child caught up in a misfortune he couldn't prevent.
2024-08-08 13:08
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f0rsaken denied too
2024-08-07 23:23
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mafia got him again..
2024-08-07 23:24
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He is just misunderstood! It would not be like him at all to cheat.
2024-08-07 23:25
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We dont know what happened, but i dont see this having any relevancy to anything but to the fact that a man — a boy lost all of his hope. This was not an act of revenge. Loved.
2024-08-08 01:59
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#32
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United States JW_belly
IT'S JOELVER
2024-08-07 23:26
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99% of people commenting here are cheating. Wherever you play, you found cheaters. Is full of it.
2024-08-07 23:26
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true, thats why many here are protecting him
2024-08-07 23:28
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This game has a cheating community, meaning just like how we discuss this article they discuss cheats daily. It makes me sick
2024-08-07 23:39
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just to see for myself I checked a few forums, people are really passionate about cheating and its sick. like, whats wrong with them?
2024-08-08 20:28
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Supply and demand bro. It’s a multi million dollar industry lmao
2024-08-08 21:48
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not me since i don't play
2024-08-08 02:04
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#34
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Czech Republic imik
Who do you think is going to fall for your lies again? Blud is delulu.
2024-08-07 23:26
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i am pretty sure bc.game pay very good money , obviously he is a very good player and above 99% of community i think his problem is that he is st00pid to throw all away
2024-08-07 23:26
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#37
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Finland niilo_22
The funniest part: "I hope to resolve this matter since I've never cheated in a match, despite what some people claim." Except that even your ex-teammate at GODSENT RuStY admitted to knowing you cheated while playing together :DD And afterwards deleted most of the tweets cuz GODSENT demanded so, for obvious reasons. If he gets another slap on the wrist, I truly hope he goes all the way in the scene and makes millions, because clearly God must be on his side. x.com/Rusty_csgo/status/1704477870494495.. x.com/Lun4rCS/status/1704480360782799026
2024-08-07 23:34
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Except rusty didn’t actually know joel cheated. He just made that assumption based on the fact that joel betted on himself/godsent.
2024-08-07 23:33
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#40
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Egypt BomberMan_
idk what level of evidence BC.Game want from akros or what they could give to convince them? A player with a long past of controversy is in another one. Hard to see his innocence here.
2024-08-07 23:30
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#113
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Slovakia GloryMole
He can easily take Akros to court if he really is innocent.
2024-08-08 01:30
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no one is taking anyone to court in esports. Also, it would take years and years by that point his career would be over anyways by the time he gets unbanned from akros. Pretty sure ESL/faceit dont mirror akros bans so he can still play in those events.
2024-08-08 01:38
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#145
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Slovakia GloryMole
He already did take ESIC to court so the chance is there..
2024-08-08 06:55
0
Also, even the fact that out of all pro players out there, exactly him got banned with the newest AC update. Like huh?
2024-08-08 08:18
2
#41
Faceit level 6  | 
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Serbia Dinarska_divizija
Bro is lying obviously
2024-08-07 23:31
6
#42
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United States webchilla
bro was framed
2024-08-07 23:32
0
#43
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United States notawaffle
So why has akros detected him and not other players? Theres obviously a legitimate reason
2024-08-07 23:33
2
6 replies
because other players arent cheating?
2024-08-07 23:35
6
1 reply
#50
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United States notawaffle
Yes exactly, most logical answer
2024-08-07 23:38
1
because other players are not stupid enough to use a public cheat
2024-08-07 23:36
21
2 replies
#77
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Germany Gabbah
this lol
2024-08-08 00:06
3
This right here.
2024-08-08 13:13
0
Well, he was presumably the first high-profile casualty of the new update that came out on the same day. Presumably the word got out quickly and the provider messaged everyone to not play on any Akros protected servers.
2024-08-07 23:59
6
shameless, just like Hunden
2024-08-07 23:34
5
"for the aim assistance and triggerbot it can be customized to look more human-like and, if not configured poorly, would be completely invisible to the human eye." ok now im convinced he was cheating
2024-08-07 23:39
9
1 reply
#108
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Estonia LfLion
But that's true , soft cheating is hard to detect with human eye , so for example slight aim assist.
2024-08-08 01:20
2
HAHAHAAHAHHAHAHA GO BACK TO MCDONALDS BRO
2024-08-07 23:41
0
ban him regardless either for scamming, which he did or for matchfixing, which he did or cheating, which he also did
2024-08-07 23:43
15
#56
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Russia veblemagnit
So satisfying to read such news on HLTV. Please more bans for cheating $h1t in the near future
2024-08-07 23:45
7
The fact that this dude unironically expects people to believe a single word that comes out of his mouth after the shit he’s pulled is just next level delusion
2024-08-07 23:47
13
#64
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
apEX | 
Italy kalmahhh
Don't understand how this guy can still deny it? Akros obviously has definitive proof otherwise I can't see how or why they'd elaborate and double-down if there was any question. Perhaps it's true that he 'never cheated in a match', but that doesn't matter anymore. He got caught this time and should stay banned
2024-08-07 23:53
7
2 replies
If he doesn't go into defensive mode, every TO can sue him for all prize money he ever earned... which they SHOULD do regardless.
2024-08-08 13:15
0
1 reply
#228
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
apEX | 
Italy kalmahhh
I doubt it tbh, they'd have no leg to stand on regardless of whether he denied it or just went silent and didn't make any comment. Presumably they'd have to prove he was cheating in their tournament, which they can't. Otherwise, they'd have banned him at the time.
2024-08-08 17:39
0
You got this Joel, keep denying and you’ll eventually win! We know you didn’t cheat!
2024-08-07 23:55
4
#67
Faceit level 10  | 
affey | 
Thailand Zinn0
Free my bro. He ain do nontin wrong.
2024-08-07 23:56
0
#68
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
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Germany blxR
Bro is about to switch to Valorant
2024-08-07 23:56
7
#72
Faceit level 10  | 
Slovakia w8max
This guy has to be acoustic , who do you think is going to believe u dumas? J000000000EL
2024-08-08 00:00
0
cope harder joeL
2024-08-08 00:02
1
#74
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United States Dungles
Source: "Trust me bro."
2024-08-08 00:02
1
#79
Faceit level 4  | 
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Sweden Annoyed_Swede123
So he basically said a whole lot of nothing. He denied it like was expected, no matter if he is actually cheating or not. Most importantly he did not have any idea of why he was targeted and what was detected by the anti-cheat. Idk man, I want to believe the guy, but the fact an update came out the same day, the Akros guy says it is 100% true and can explain in detail what kind of cheat it is says a lot. It could obviously be a bug for when the update is launched, but I mean what are the chances of the bug happening to the most controversial and accused player in the scene?
2024-08-08 00:08
11
5 replies
What do you expect from a cheater - he can only deny it. Proves are there, I'm kinda shocked how much people don't trust anticheat developers while also believe someone who was scamming people for hundreds of dollars.
2024-08-08 00:18
9
4 replies
#86
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Finland niilo_22
bro more like tens of thousands, apparently even up to 130k and that was in like 2021-22 when he was 16, and imagine the value of those skins today xd
2024-08-08 00:29
5
#91
Faceit level 4  | 
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Sweden Annoyed_Swede123
Thats what Im trying to say. Cheater or not, the obvious approach would be to deny it. The evidence is clearly not in his favor, and he has not put up any argument as to why the evidence should be questioned. I dont know a lot about anti-cheat, but it feels like most people criticize different anti-cheats because it is bad at actually banning people and not because the verdicts leading to bans are inaccurate. So people criticize VAC for example for the quantity of bans, not the quality of those bans. I do not like the guy and personally feel he has got 2 more chances than he deserved. I mostly want to believe him just because a hacker reaching this high would undermine not only the tier 2-3 scene but cs as an esport in general. While the whole of the scene is really in the dark here, I think sites like hltv and dust2 have painted this as a debatable case still, as if there is still questions regarding this, while Akros always made it clear it is not a mistake. So I understand your shock but it most likely comes from compassion and mainly the media coverage reporting from a certain angle.
2024-08-08 00:42
5
2 replies
No one had doubts about Wonderful_Y Faceit ban, while Faceit was far less transparent about the reasons. Also: VAC is quite a different AC and it's even hard to compare those - I could explain, but I don't thing anyone would be interested. The case is definitely not debatable - Akros has hard proves, joel has only his claims that he would never hurt anybody and we know how much his word is worth.
2024-08-08 00:51
4
1 reply
#96
Faceit level 4  | 
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Sweden Annoyed_Swede123
Exactly. All he says is a lot of empathy-awakening shit about "these accusations hurts very much" but when asked about the actual accusations he just says "trust me bro, like I wouldnt cheat I swear". Hardly believable, especially with the past of scamming, gambling and match-fixing he has. And no, Im not very interested in ACs, and I doubt I would understand if you were to explain. Since I dont know myself, I believe the AC devs. They have a lot of responsibility, but if they made an error it would not be that big of a deal. The Akron devs have no reason to lie or exaggerate the legitimacy, and since big tournament organizers use it I believe they know what they are doing. I would take their word over "on God bro, itd never cross my mind to cheat".
2024-08-08 01:01
3
#81
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Sweden kepstjuven
Please give him one more chance, just one. #freejoel
2024-08-08 00:13
3
1 reply
He's just better then everyone else
2024-08-08 01:56
0
He's right on one thing: "There wouldn't be a reason for me to suddenly turn on cheats" ...because he was doing it for month already, lol.
2024-08-08 00:13
7
the only negative i find on this, is that with all the controversy akros finally gave some clues to the rest of existing cheaters and cheat devellopers about how he was catched. Many more could have been ban.
2024-08-08 00:40
5
4 replies
The community needs to understand that our initial unwillingness to elaborate on details had a good reason behind it. It wasn't just because we felt like it, it was because we were concerned releasing any information at all could have long term consequences. So we shared and continue to share your concern. Hopefully, the community will understand why we don't speak about the details of bans going forward.
2024-08-08 01:21
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2 replies
#121
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Poland BAN_ANIME
real employee? cats or dogs?
2024-08-08 01:51
0
1 reply
signed up august 30 2022 and held zero comments for one month shy of 2 years he has the "trust me bro" aura
2024-08-08 05:06
1
#174
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Finland Palomies
Akros announced the Memory Integrity compatibility update on their Twitter account a day before joel was banned. Cheat developers can just count 1 + 1 based on that anyway.
2024-08-08 09:44
1
The guy is a sociopath. He understands the stupidity of using cheats when he has been granted a "second chance" because of his controversial past, but he still decides to cheat. I wonder how the guy can sleep a night knowing he is ruining other people's chances of reaching the top.
2024-08-08 00:49
8
3 replies
#106
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Estonia LfLion
He just grabbed more money from his team wins , this time he was smart to hide betting but not smart enough to hide cheats better :D
2024-08-08 01:18
3
#154
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Europe Zwenix
people like this are emotinally detached from these type of things. He just doesn't understand why wouldn't he do what he did when there are benefits for him involved. Seems like his parents didn't teach him what does empathy mean and why it matters, just as didn't implement any important life rules that come from honor. Parents didn't teach him then life will try, but more painfully...
2024-08-08 07:51
3
1 reply
Amen
2024-08-08 10:23
0
Fake it until you make it Not panning out
2024-08-08 01:15
2
#105
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Estonia LfLion
Akros did what ESIC wasn't able to do, ESIC close ur useless business and give all rights to akros and we may actually have less cheaters on esport
2024-08-08 01:17
1
Cheaters are always playing the victim even in Matchmaking.
2024-08-08 01:20
3
1 reply
#111
Faceit premium user  | 
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China st4rkiNNg0
If they are cheating in lan, i dont even know who was hacking against me in esportal lmao... cheating against swedish players in swedish plattform xd
2024-08-08 01:28
0
#115
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Slovakia GloryMole
If he didn't cheat can't he just take them to court and get his name cleared?
2024-08-08 01:33
1
At this point, you cant give him the benefit of the doubt, he needs to earn trust. But if it was me being wrongly accused of cheating, I certainly wouldn't be listing reasons why it wouldn't 'make sense', I would just say "I didn't do it, Im confident the investigations will prove this, I trust the developers at Ragnarock Anticheat will arrive at the same conclusion shortly" etc. He sounds guilty af saying allat
2024-08-08 01:36
3
free joel, we cant let talents go to waste
2024-08-08 01:40
0
#119
Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden Hasklon
he is totally cooked, couldn't even give an alternate explanation for the ban
2024-08-08 01:41
8
1 reply
u are cooked
2024-08-08 01:43
0
Match-fixing AND cheating? Ban him for life.
2024-08-08 01:58
6
Yup, carreer destroyed. Goodbye kid.
2024-08-08 02:23
1
#128
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Finland siNppa
I think his statement just makes him look worse
2024-08-08 02:27
0
#129
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Canada Acuz
J ZERO E L
2024-08-08 03:09
1
1 reply
J OMEGALUL EL
2024-08-08 07:08
2
Gotta get hundens lawyer
2024-08-08 03:31
1
Akros just should've told the team in private what they found, so that they could've catched more players in the future. Now cheat providers know and are surely already working on new cheats to bypass the system again.
2024-08-08 03:36
0
1 reply
They always are regardless. This is a huge business.
2024-08-08 13:18
0
joel is god now
2024-08-08 03:40
0
100% cheating
2024-08-08 03:43
0
#134
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
jackasmo | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
(c) "Furthermore, he says the same cheat could have gone undetected in the past: "The cheat could have been used before without being detected. The fact that we didn't detect its presence in matches prior to August 4 does not prove it wasn't present earlier, as this type of cheat is notoriously difficult to identify." Imagine how many lan events could've been compromised by this ad maybe there are a pro player or two using it? huh? possible or impossible... oh boy...
2024-08-08 03:49
0
Who remembers the other Joel Sueco, the same name, will it be a curse? hltv.org/news/13373/emilio-vac-banned-mi..
2024-08-08 04:10
0
1 reply
Also, jOELZ Coincidence? I aren't think that
2024-08-08 10:52
0
Seems like its guilty until proven otherwise. I think a 3rd party inquiry is mandatory.
2024-08-08 04:48
0
#141
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United States Wumbc
does anyone have like any really sus clips? Or was he that good at hiding it lol
2024-08-08 05:53
0
9 replies
#151
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Europe Zwenix
read the article maybe
2024-08-08 07:37
0
8 replies
#188
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United States Wumbc
okay I read the article and there's no clips thank you for your response
2024-08-08 11:20
0
7 replies
#194
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Europe Zwenix
"Features include ESP (a type of wallhack), Aimbot and Triggerbot. Each feature has additional customization, for the aim assistance and triggerbot it can be customized to look more human-like and, if not configured poorly, would be completely invisible to the human eye. " If you rly read that then I feel bad for you.
2024-08-08 12:23
0
6 replies
#196
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United States Wumbc
I understand that the article described features that, if configured properly, would be 'invisible.' However, my question was about whether anyone in the community had clips of him being 'suspect.' You told me to read the article, but it doesn’t provide any clips which is what I was asking for. So I asked for something that's not in the article and you told me to read the article like thx bro lol I know there isn't anything concrete otherwise it would have been in the article ._.
2024-08-08 12:38
0
5 replies
Modern paid cheats don't lock in on heads anymore. They use AI/ML to learn how YOU aim, and then correct the aim to a pattern that fits your aiming and playing style. Sus clips are already only useful for the lowest of Chinese LAN hackers.
2024-08-08 13:21
0
4 replies
#207
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United States Wumbc
I've seen some crazy cheats online, but they really have AI machine learning cheats now? O.o I feel like competitive integrity in eSports is going to be completely gone in a decade, or maybe less, or maybe it's gone already!
2024-08-08 13:34
0
1 reply
Unfortunately so. I saw this in an interview with some top commercial CS2 cheat makers: youtube.com/watch?v=zwruk-tLIOU
2024-08-08 20:09
0
imagine those developers use their skills to create something more useful instead of a cheat
2024-08-08 15:27
1
1 reply
#234
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Russia lone__
they wouldn't get as much $$$ for doing so
2024-08-08 23:28
0
I wonder why faceit anti cheat cant detect his cheat when he plays faceit.
2024-08-08 06:52
0
1 reply
FaceIt has the best anticheat according to cheat devs themselves... people are unlikely to use all but the most expensive and exclusive cheats there.
2024-08-08 13:22
0
Ban this kid for life thx
2024-08-08 07:07
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#149
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
HeatoN | 
Sweden flkt
Game over Joel
2024-08-08 07:12
1
#150
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Europe Zwenix
"Makes no sense on why I would cheat now when I finally have received a chance to redeem myself" Weeell maybe to redeem yourself? Scoring great matches with huge performance would realy make it easier... Also who would have thought he will deny the allegations. Sry, but I believe more anty-cheat company than a matchfixer...
2024-08-08 07:36
1
#152
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Europe LastBlast
anti-cheat update was in same day and then he got caught lol ))) ok radar wallhack but aimbot trigger bot lol )))
2024-08-08 07:39
0
shouldn't be allowed to touch cs ban for life
2024-08-08 08:00
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#157
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Europe LastBlast
i think its goodbye joel forever for cs2 , may be valorant will get him or pubg dota2 apeks
2024-08-08 08:14
0
Joel - what a loser. Scammer, matchfixer and cheater - AIO.
2024-08-08 08:31
0
#161
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Yugoslavia lapace
bro got scammed by some ruskis XD
2024-08-08 08:43
0
ban him thx
2024-08-08 09:07
0
he can deny everything he want. cant be a coincidence that he's always involved in some scummy shit. ...and i dont believe that akros only bans ONE person by accident either. joel swedish hunden
2024-08-08 09:10
1
1 reply
that idiot got banned by using some shitty public cheat, since he must have started it before going ingame so that the ac can detect it, i cannot be a false positiv, since that's the reason he couldn't even connect to the server :D
2024-08-08 10:56
1
Why is he still competing after being a scammer and a matchfixer ? Ban them for life, it would solve a lot.
2024-08-08 09:12
0
Oh no, people are accusing me of cheating because I got caught by an anti cheat, how dare they judge me without evidence
2024-08-08 10:51
2
#191
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Scotland TWGKofi
Good from BC.Game
2024-08-08 11:29
0
#193
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Czech Republic PaYaB
of course he does again..
2024-08-08 11:49
0
yeah cool story joel, anyway hold the pickles please
2024-08-08 13:19
0
#219
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Sweden shirre
I just can't anymore.. There is absolutely no way for him to get out of this one. Joel needs to get some help with his issues. It's bullshit after bullshit. Matchfixing, scamming and now cheating. If there actually was an issue with Akros, more people would be banned. It's time for you to let go of CS and focus on yourself Joel. You clearly need it. Not saying that to be rude, but this is not healthy behaviour.
2024-08-08 15:19
0
I can't even begin to understand how he defends his position. I'm not hating on him but everything is there. How you can still deny that?
2024-08-08 23:41
0
Keep trying, you are done.
2024-08-08 23:42
0
#238
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Europe LastBlast
joel position like kindergarden lol its not me it was like that when i came ))) no proof arguments how cheats appeared on harddrive
2024-08-09 09:14
0
#240
Faceit level 8  | 
DZ | 
Algeria SilverQuick
When did a thief ever admitted the robbery? never lmao
2024-08-09 12:07
0
his cs career is basically over, ofcourse bro would deny the fact he was cheating
2024-08-09 15:37
0
#242
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
w1cked | 
United Kingdom w1cked
Gutted lol
2024-08-10 20:56
0
These kids keep ruining our great legacy in so many ways. Now it's FPS games turn... This guy will sell drugs most likely, can't see him even getting a job at Mcdonalds. Pathetic
2024-08-10 20:58
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