FalleN: "I proposed a game too fast for my own taste"

FURIA's captain says his team had to experience the loss on stage to further their growth.

FalleN wasn't happy with some of his calls against MOUZ

FURIA surprised at IEM Rio with a triumphant group stage campaign, romping past FaZe, MOUZ, and Natus Vincere to book a ticket directly to the semi-final in front of their home crowd.

Upon returning to action under the bright lights, however, they collapsed: A meager six rounds across two maps against MOUZ meant the Farmasi Arena was silent for much of the series and the Brazilian fans had little to celebrate, with FURIA looking a shadow of what they had just two days prior.

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The defeat is one that Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo is taking as a learning experience, he told HLTV after the match, saying that half the team — Marcelo "⁠chelo⁠" Cespedes, Felipe "⁠skullz⁠" Medeiros, and Sid "⁠sidde⁠" Macedo — lacked big stage experience and that the defeat something "the team had to go through to see how important communication is, how important it is to hold our nerves better next time."

The Brazilian veteran also spoke about his own mistakes and erroneous approach to the game from a strategic point of view, discussed how FURIA's new coaching staff is helping integrate new strategies, and praised skullz while admitting that playing on stage was a new reality for the youngster and that it was a "big learning experience."

If you cannot see the SoundCloud embed above, you can listen to the interview here.


Commiserations, a really hard loss. One-sided, unfortunately. Can you tell me about what was going wrong and the feeling of playing on stage with a defeat in this fashion?

The feeling before the match happened was awesome, there were so many people cheering for us. It felt like during the game we couldn't play our best version as we did in the group stage, mainly because... first, they were playing super well, they were really making it very hard for us.

Secondly, without watching the match yet, it feels like we felt the pressure a little bit playing on the stage. It was one of the first matches for half of the team including the coach, and even myself, with the experience I have, I still made some mistakes and maybe played a bit too fast at the very beginning and stuff like that.

The team is going step by step, and we would have loved to go three steps at once, go to the finals, win the title in front of the crowd, but reaching playoffs was a good goal for us here and getting to the semis was a good result. We will take it from there.

Tell me about reaching playoffs, because coming into this you weren't expected to take down NAVI, you weren't expected to go through in that fashion.

Our main goal was to get to the playoffs and play in front of the crowd, that was the main dream for us. It feels like we were able to control the nerves and play very good CS during those first days. We played convincingly, communication was on point, the team was really flowing. A very different version of the team that we showed here in this match against MOUZ.

You said that it was a little bit of stage inexperience for half the team. I was talking to sidde just before you came and he said similar things, that it was hard going on stage with some of this team being fresh to it, was that all that went wrong or what caused the collapse between the group stage and here?

Well, no... I think you have to bring things from the match to really give you a good answer, but I'll try giving that. We won the pistol round and started pretty well, we lost the first force-buy which made our life harder already.

We make our ecos, I think it's 3-1 at that point, we win the first gun round convincingly, we had a good idea on what to do. The second gun round we kinda go the same way, we do it pretty well, but we lost a 3v2. Jimphhat was in Heaven and he was able to get some kills, and it kind of gives you the feeling of, 'Oh, we had this one,' and stuff like that.

Then I think that's where I made a mistake, that is something I would call differently. I called something very similar a third time, my teammates said they had a good chance in this round, but for me it felt like because I was proposing a game that was that fast, maybe the nerves were a little bit high and we played too fast.

I would go back to that third weapon round and do something different, a little bit more slow-paced, try to put them in control. And then at that point, trying to go for something else, it was easy for them to read that we had to adjust so they had the upper hand already.

Strategically, that's what happened on the first game, and a little bit more emotionally in terms of how the team was flowing, we were a little bit too tunnel-visioned in some moments because of the pressure. The communication was not on point completely, and for us it is normally. That is the main focus for me, the main thing to work on.

Playing in front of this crowd was your main goal coming into the event, do you walk away with a bit of regret or disappointment in the way that you played?

My only regret is that weapon round, honestly, because I feel like the game can be different when you call differently. I proposed a game too fast for my own taste, and when it doesn't work, it just sucks. That's the only regret I have, about that weapon round, but that's mainly me thinking about it strategically as a captain.

I think the team had to go through what we went through, we had to see how important communication is, how important it is to hold our nerves better next time, and a lot of them are going to learn a bit from that. We're going to keep our heads up, and no, no regrets, it was amazing.

There was a big chance we couldn't even make it to the stage, the competition is so stacked. It wouldn't be shameful to lose in the group stage and say, 'Yeah, it didn't work this time,' but we were able to go through convincingly which is the best-case scenario.

We will go ahead and have that in our minds and work strong for the RMR now, make sure that we keep working hard and improving step by step. As I said before, it would be great to go three steps at once and win the title, but we're not there yet.

FalleN says skullz can take Rio as a "big learning experience"

This iteration of the lineup with skullz hasn't been around that long-

Three months, yeah.

-Yeah. There was this long period where you were in this team, the leadership changed hands a bunch of times between you and arT. You're now fully in the driver's seat, you have some new coaching staff, and there is a lot that has changed around you. What has it been like for you with these changes and now trying to bring this lineup up to the top?

The people working around us are making our lives very easy. FURIA provides us a lot of good stuff in terms of the people who work with us, and also the structure. There's a lot of facilities that help us to only focus on our job, and that's amazing.

Secondly, the coaches, sidde, and all the analysts, they're helping us progress in areas that keep showing up. As long as we play a couple of matches, problems show up, things that need to be different, they are always on point with what to look at, how to behave differently next time. Slowly we're getting there because we're adjusting things ourselves, guided by what they think.

For you as a captain, how has the change been with the coaching staff bringing new things to the table?

Personally, working with more people is always challenging because everyone has different ideas, but they give me a lot of freedom to do and use whatever I want to use. It's very good that they give me this freedom.

Slava, his name is innersh1ne, he is very creative on many of the T sides. He's always looking for stuff the other teams are doing, always giving ideas and input for some players here and there, and sometimes those ideas become strategies. Sometimes we can play around it, and once we try it in practice, we feel it. Like on Dust2 we beat MOUZ in the first game, there was a strategy that was mainly created by an idea, a lurk B smoke that he showed to skullz, so these kind of things are very helpful.

Hunter, Lucid, he is more focused on working on our CT sides, like why we are not moving when we have to move and stuff like that, setups we should do more. He's more on the greater game as CT. Both of them help a lot, and sidde is making sure everything works smoothly and he is getting all those ideas from a tactical point of view, making sure that players adjust to it, and the daily routine is very good for us to achieve off that.

Lastly I just wanted to get your thoughts on skullz, how he has developed now that you have time to work with him and now that he's played a big stage game. A goal was probably to also get him in front of this crowd, right, so what was that like and how has it been working with him?

This tournament was very, very important for skullz. During the group stage he played amazing, he was in control of all of his emotions and had flowing communication, playing super well.

Playing on stage here was probably a new emotion and new reality for him in terms of how he has to behave next time. It's a big learning experience for him here. I'm very happy having him on the team, he brings a lot of calmness, a lot of precision to our game, and he's a great asset for the team.

Leaving this tournament, as you said it was a good result for you that you made the playoffs and that you got this far. What's feeling like going out of this and turning the focus to the RMRs and following events for the rest of the year?

Our focus will remain the same. Analyze what can be better, step by step. Looking ahead for the RMR, it's going to be tough competition, we gotta make sure we are at the Major, there's a lot of pressure as well. That's the life of the athlete, right? You go from one to the other, the next two weeks there's something new again and you keep going through all those things.

For us it's coming back, we're going to have a very small break now, a few days for people to [take] off and do something different, and then we'll go strong to the RMR. The end of the season is going to mainly be focused on China, so it's going to be big weeks coming ahead of us.

Brazil Felipe 'skullz' Medeiros
Felipe 'skullz' Medeiros
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
784
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.63
Brazil Marcelo 'chelo' Cespedes
Marcelo 'chelo' Cespedes
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1249
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
33
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1916
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.61
Brazil Sid 'sidde' Macedo
Sid 'sidde' Macedo
Age:
27
Team:
LOL
2024-10-13 00:34
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Paycheck stealing masterclass Outclassed in game by real awper
2024-10-13 00:34
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#15
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Russia KillKiss
props to him his stealing will last way longer now due to this impressive result now he can go back to making last places on every other tournament and no one call tell him anything because he made semis in Rio!
2024-10-13 00:45
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#46
NiKo | 
Brazil Kly(u)
+1 yearly Furia decent finish in a tournament, now back to last place finishs losing to t2/3 european squads Oh and dont forget easily making it to the Major - bcz NA and the rest of BR teams are fucking dogshit - and celebrating it as something incredible (when it should be your bare minimal) just to get stomped and leave 0-3 on Legends stage
2024-10-13 08:15
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WTF DOES THIS EVEN MEAN PLEASE GET OFF FURIA GRANDPA
2024-10-13 00:35
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#5
donk | 
Canada Pumby
Rolled and smoked quite simply
2024-10-13 00:35
5
gabried “ twofaced “ todeldo back at it
2024-10-13 00:35
24
I think there was a clear conflict in terms of goals for furia this tournament. I remember kscerato saying that winning was the MINIMUM goal in rio for furia. Given that, I don't think you can be happy with a semi-finals appearance. After all, you didn't reach your MINIMUM goal. Regards
2024-10-13 00:37
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if you aim high and then you fail slightly it's still a win
2024-10-13 01:52
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#41
Spinx | 
Finland KnelI
Eh maybe... but setting your goal lower and then getting to semis would definitely be a slightly bigger win no?
2024-10-13 06:16
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#8
Faceit level 9  | 
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Brazil lilpeepBigCityBlues
tbh, its already a miracle that they managed to beat NAVI, mouz and Faze. 3 Tier1 teams they did well and reached the semi finals but they need to find someone to replace chelo, he doesnt have enough firepower for this team. It's already bad enough to have a team with an awper that barely impacts the game, you cant have other people underperforming give a chance for another player, dumau? latto? idk someone new
2024-10-13 00:40
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Why is FalleN not the one to be replaced? Having an AWPer who's as bad as him obviously drags the team down. And he hasn't exactly been having much positive impact as IGL in recent times either: reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1f.. From what I've heard, he's expensive salary-wise as well. Seems like the obvious cut if you want to improve this team.
2024-10-13 00:57
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#24
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Brazil lilpeepBigCityBlues
I dont think FalleN should be kicked I think he should abandon the AWP, but the problem is, there are no awpers in Brazil I also think since MIBR times, all the teams fallen managed had terrible players bringing the team down. So i dont think he is a bad IGL, but he has had bad pawns at his disposal. Some of the players that Fallen played with nowadays dont even play anymore... JOTA, TACO, stewie, leodrunky... and some are on tier 5... this shows how bad Fallen's teammates are
2024-10-13 01:31
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The last point you brought up is so true. I wonder what will happen to chelo when fallen stops taking him under his wing, because chelo is legitimately tier 3 material. Too bad Furia's management is so reluctant to change players. Just look how long it took them to replace art. I think chelo will unfortunately stay with us at least until mid 2025... Maybe when the player break starts in the middle of the year we'll see some changes.
2024-10-13 07:05
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I agree. Fallen has to go. We have a shortage of pro awpers in brazil, but it's obvious that things won't improve while Fallen and Chelo continue to be on the team. At this point, I'd even take some young non-proven talent from faceit pugs just to see what happens. This is pretty much what Liquid did to find ultimate and now they have one of the best awpers in the world at their disposal. Ultimate showed the professional scene that the current talent hunters in CS are awful, and that there's plenty of great talent to be found within pug lobbies. Why hasn't furia tried this yet if they want to improve so much ?
2024-10-13 03:17
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Regarding ultimate, his form has been pretty short-lived. His hyperagressive style might've surprised teams at first when they didn't know much about him, but it looks like he has been found out to some extent. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/21763/ult..
2024-10-13 03:19
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#42
Spinx | 
Finland KnelI
Such a small sample size though. And 38% WR
2024-10-13 06:18
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#9
SolEk | 
Poland bon33r
Weird, it worked against Fluxo and pain
2024-10-13 00:39
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Nice excuses
2024-10-13 00:40
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Team Is ass, nonetheless good run
2024-10-13 00:41
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#12
Faceit level 6  | 
NiKo | 
Canada swagcrazy
Dont worry bro only one year to try again at IEM Rio 2025
2024-10-13 00:42
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>reaching playoffs was a good goal for us here and getting to the semis was a good result. We will take it from there. masterful framing! pretending like this event is part of an upward trajectory that will continue. reaching an undeserved semifinal will of course remain the peak for this roster and they will keep fallen on the team for at least a year of bombing out of every tier 1 event, after which he will get another gig with a top5 BR team and keep the paychecks rolling. hats off! presente!
2024-10-13 00:42
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Great, this final for navi is their next downfall, you can only go down from what they are doing right now. See faze for example. Final after final and now, playoffs xDDDDD Disband ASAP. RegarxDs.
2024-10-13 00:46
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#14
rain | 
Europe Ithlin
Absente
2024-10-13 00:44
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Furia trash team, they need more changes. Chelo to cocky player and then he is a joke on the server.
2024-10-13 00:50
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#18
Faceit level 8  | 
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United States sziasztok
Fallen the librarian has been replaced by torzsi the librarian
2024-10-13 00:51
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#20
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Israel mcnamaras_EEEdiots
well, insane run anyways gg furia
2024-10-13 01:01
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"I think the team had to go through what we went through" Brother, why not EVOLVE AS THE GAME WENT ON. You have timeouts for things like this. You only got 3 measly rounds on the whole series
2024-10-13 01:10
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He should be proud, he did make it to the playoffs and he is not exactly in his prime either, so making playoffs as IGL in 2024 is not a bad result for him
2024-10-13 01:19
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#29
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Ukraine DANTOP1
making playoffs on car with 3 weels is indeed impressive, I wonder when fallen will be way too heavy to carry
2024-10-13 02:16
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#25
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland jordonjrjbe
Yeah 2x 13:3 is really fast
2024-10-13 01:28
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Daddy you were really impressive 8 years ago but we all think your time has come Just become FURIA coach and let Kscerato breath
2024-10-13 01:32
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lol kscerato and yurrih have experienced enough losses on the rio stage bro
2024-10-13 01:50
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#30
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Poland P4wl1k
delulu
2024-10-13 02:39
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#31
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Brazil Lolove
You’ve made the almost impossible become reality Fallen, this interview was the last drop for me, after all these years of excuses. Not that anyone cares, but i dont like you anymore
2024-10-13 02:43
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#32
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Singapore floofy1
sanest brazillian i've seen on hltv so far
2024-10-13 03:11
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To me the last straw was when he framed Furia's loss to Lynn Vision at the copenhagen major as "an important learning experience". That has to be a joke. What happened today wasn't a one-off, it's just one more sample of the pattern that we already know to expect from Furia. I already don't watch their games, today was an exception I made because they reached the semis, but after today I will stick to watching them only if they reach the finals. Going by how lazy and unprofessional they've been lately, I have a feeling it will be a while before I watch another furia game.
2024-10-13 03:50
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#48
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Billyk | 
United States jakobii
fallen keeps declining in performance year over year you can respect him for the legendary things he did in his career while also acknowledging he is actively dragging his team (and the brazilian scene) down with him i would much rather see him take up a coaching or gm role
2024-10-13 08:23
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#52
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Brazil Lolove
I don’t respect him anymore.
2024-10-13 11:28
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#62
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Sweden west1m
he is the coach/manager already or do you think sid have anything to bring as coach, that guy have no personality, just look at his interviews
2024-10-13 21:42
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Fallen the biggest paycheck stealer of all times. Good for him though.
2024-10-13 03:20
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#36
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Brazil ginga do maroto
isn't FalleN aware of the difference between tactics and strategy? honestly expected more from one of the most accomplished igls ever... please read "On War", by Carl von Clausewitz.
2024-10-13 03:37
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#55
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Israel mcnamaras_EEEdiots
maybe it is a strategic tactic to pretend not know difference)))))
2024-10-13 12:55
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FallenBOT = FURIABOT FOREVER
2024-10-13 03:51
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Too old to f, bro
2024-10-13 04:21
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resign them for 8 years
2024-10-13 07:11
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#45
donk | 
Colombia xNaito
I love it when brazilians get F'ed against international teams. They are not built for this. They should just stay on their caves fixing games against random ass teams. That's the only thing they are good at
2024-10-13 08:07
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You say that like sweden have made a lot in the last 8 years. Just a handfull of countries are able to compete and do something in big events with a full national team. Brs have 5 teams in top 30. They are not winning yet, but you better do best before saying sht.
2024-10-13 16:12
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average european hate towards brazil, don't even know why we try to argue yet.
2024-10-13 16:23
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#47
Faceit level 10  | 
Billyk | 
United States jakobii
damn fallen needs to go back to turkey
2024-10-13 08:16
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Sad for FalleN :(
2024-10-13 08:24
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#51
Faceit plus user Faceit level 9  | 
Czech Republic maXX_CZ
IT is very simple. You got one star one semistar, then two players with 1,0 rating and one not that good awper as IGL. If you want to have at least slight chance to be top10 team, you need AT LEAST 3 palyers (and one of them should be awper) well above 1.0 rating, ideally 4. Considering chello is entrying, this is on skullz for sure atm. I think everyone expected better things from him. And this is long story for furia, they now have decent IGL (who is sadly also awper), two solid players and two players that they need to be better. Pretty much same as last roster except for fact that i would argue art was probably better.
2024-10-13 09:38
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#54
Faceit level 10  | 
Denmark kasper123gta
They did fine, room for improvement
2024-10-13 12:52
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#64
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United States ca1cubait
-1
2024-10-13 22:08
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Woah, is this what you gotta say when you get clapped on your home turf?
2024-10-13 13:47
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#57
Faceit level 7  | 
Canada kr1ska7a
finally furia can TRY being a real team again
2024-10-13 14:26
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They clearly felt the pressure. It was a complete different team in the semi. Cant complain that much on psicological stuff, unfurtunately. My expectations were so low on them that I didnt even watched their matches in group stage, thought they would fall with 0x2. They clearly improved a lot. Not throwing against t1 teams was already a big improvement. Playing well at lan with big crowd is a next step.
2024-10-13 16:18
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#61
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Brazil Lolove
There’s no next step with the mentality this team plays. Fallen is a moron at this point, he screwed his teams for 5 years in a row, only way Brazil can win is with a roster like Ks/Yuurih/Bigu/Insani and a young awper that want to win. If you don’t want to win and just stealing paychecks, it’s always a “learning experience”.
2024-10-13 16:24
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#63
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Sweden west1m
bro, do you even watch the matches? yuuurih is trash, dont have the skill to be in a team tier 3, he is utter garbage
2024-10-13 21:48
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lets wait
2024-10-13 22:17
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#66
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland SebL
I don't really think that in this semi-final it was the case of FURIA getting outplayed that much, I think they were just heavily outaimed in this match, like really, it felt like a difference of class, maybe that comes because of the inexperience of most of the roster, idk., hopefully, but it didn't look good individually at all. I think what's great for FURIA is that giving FalleN full control as the IGL is really working it seems, I think FalleN still is the best Brazilian IGL, and even though he has been terrible individually let's be honest, I think it was a good move to finally get rid of arT and get a new IGL. NA RMR won't be easy it has to be said, I think it will be tougher than it ever was, so FURIA has to stay focused, and have to be in a great shape heading there to make it to the Major. Hope they do, GL boys! Big fan Mr.Gabrielo!
2024-10-13 23:03
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#67
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Brazil LAPJ
i REALLY wanted fallen to win another major, but at this point it just seens impossible. Retiring after winning another major would be so beautiful for his carrer. Maybe if all their start align, fallen can still retire as the brazilian goat he is. RN people are kinda mad on him, and i'd like this feeling to fade down.
2024-10-14 00:08
0
the results were very good despite the defeat in the semi-final, and detail, "without needing foreign players", using only national talents... Insani is missing in Furia... but congratulations on the good championship...
2024-10-14 07:26
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