Dreamteam general information

7-4-2010 14:05

The first round of EPS Nordic matches have now been played, and the numbers have all been put into the Dreamteam game. Furthermore the markets are closed, and what exactly does this mean? For a bit of general information of the game, read this post.

First games are over, bonuses are paid, and we got a leader of the highscore list. It is not a big lead however, and everyone is still very much in the game. To check out how your roles played out make sure to check your Log Ticker on My Team, it will display each players contribution. Later on there will be many more details about how the roles pay out.

The transfer market is now closed, this means that if you already have 5 players you cannot change players, nor can you re-assign roles. However if you are just creating a team now you can buy players and assign them roles once, so choose carefully.

The market is closed till AFTER the matches tomorrow, this is a needed step, otherwise the winning strategy would be to simply switch all the players in your team to the ones playing tomorrow, and then flip them back after tomorrows matches. Obviously that should not be the only way to play the game. Therefore there will be a transfer fee added at some point, making it possible to switch players between matches, but it may not be a good idea, at least not without giving it a few seconds of thought before it is done.

We realize some had already planned to switch players, and chose their players at first because of that, and we are not out to harm anyone by keeping the markets closed, we genuinely believe like this the game will be better and more fun for the entire duration, and not just the first week, so please bear with us as we figure out exactly how the game is best played and balanced.

Updates will be rolled out all day, so be on the lookout for new graphs, pages and features, we will also make sure to update you all when a bunch of new features are released.

We hope most of you are starting to get a hang of the game, and are having fun following your players in the actual matches, I sure know the HLTV.org crew did in yesterdays matches.

:-)

2010-04-07 14:12

LET THE HORROR BEGIN

2010-04-07 14:16

listen, i think u should consider UEFA fantasy football system.. in the beginning of the year, people choose, i dont know 15 players i guess, 11 as 1st team and the rest as backup players.. when the season starts, the transfer market is shut down till the end of group playdays.. i dont know if u understand the paralelism im trying to make here, im saying u should consider add more money and more 2-3 spots for backup players, so people can't buy players in the transfer market, but are able to trade them inside the team, and when the play-offs come, if theres gonna be, we could once again make transfers... dont know if i make myself clear here..

2010-04-07 14:18

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Well, we'd rather have the market open more often, and I think it does make sense to switch players, there just cannot be free trade as that can be abused since we do not have proper play days because of wildcards.

2010-04-07 14:20

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yeah i figure that, but that's just in this tournament am i right? cause in big tournaments like eswc or IEM5 in lan, group matches would be played at the same time, theoretically.. maybe u could make like "only one(or two) switch(s) alowed" , i dont know its just an idea..:)

2010-04-07 14:26

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Yea, we will of course sit down and evaluate how this went before we decide on the rules for EM5 and other tournaments.. :)

2010-04-07 14:28

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Any players addition in future?I mean any other players from other team to the market?

2010-04-07 20:57

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Uh what? That would make no sense..

2010-04-07 21:30

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I think many users wanna see players from mouz/na'vi/eg and other teams in their dreamteam,that's the point

2010-04-07 21:59

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But that makes no sense, the Dreamteam game is running on the EPS Nordic, those teams are not attending?!

2010-04-07 22:03

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And what about other events with such "games"?ppl wanna get some fun,even without prizes

2010-04-07 22:52

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There will be other events, with their own dreamteam game, don't worry, but we first need to finish developing it! :)

2010-04-07 23:08

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ok,that's rly cool,thx for that stuff =)

2010-04-07 23:26

its a great way to increase specs and its more interesting when we are watching the matches,keep it up

2010-04-07 14:22

About the team name, are team names unique, like there can't be two teams with same name?

2010-04-07 14:30

Yes they are unique.

2010-04-07 14:31

Nice, then i will let my team name be "Team"

2010-04-07 14:34

so creative! good job!

2010-04-07 15:53

Yep, it was very fun watching face kick butt last night, although he could've had a few more pistol frags :P

:) i had gux as 1st fragger, 1000k on him..

2010-04-07 14:41

i won +7950 on face's value :D

2010-04-07 15:29

same here! "sprayer" was made for him. Btw i was surprised how cheap carn was, since he's in the team that's should win the more rounds, he should always bing money +

2010-04-07 15:42

just get threat, hes cheaper and obviously in the same team

2010-04-07 16:32

I'm not sure but I think that when I bought cArn he was cheaper than threat

2010-04-07 16:47

i got both ^.^

2010-04-07 17:09

:) i meant gux with his role, cause his worth + 5400.. :)

2010-04-07 15:54

Just wait till my three other players start off. I'll be claiming the first prize.

2010-04-07 14:35

hahah same here!

2010-04-07 17:22

yea it should go without saying that the market should be closed for the entire during of each round... otherwise it's just stupid really cool game, good fun. i NEVER dl demos, but decided too just to see how my team went haha go friis and ave for tomorrow!!

2010-04-07 14:40

Problem is, keeping the markets closed with a game like CS where wildcards are everywhere is no good, some play weeks may have 2 matches while others 10 :(

2010-04-07 14:57

thanks for information nomad that is beautifull game now i playing DREAMTEAM CS no ONLINE AND LAN CS :D once more thank you for this !

2010-04-07 15:06

cbteam-mtw is scheduled for the 12th, so the market will be closed until that match is played ?

2010-04-07 15:07

We are currently discussing exactly what to do about that, stay tuned..

2010-04-07 15:08

that's what i was thinking of.. Is there a simple way to let the market open most of the time, but not to have all the players available?

2010-04-07 15:52

I think we will go with having the market open most of the time, but with big fees for trading players who only played 1 match for your team.. That should stop the worst player switching..

yeh good idea, my first plan was to switch the players according to their opponents and to the map of the day... Anyways gj guys that's a cool game

2010-04-07 16:04

why i can't create a team ? i put some name like 'Locked' and don't create a team... help me please.

2010-04-07 15:13

Are you getting some kind of error?

2010-04-07 15:21

sk - h2k fnatic - mym OK - abovo mtw - cbteam and what other matches are scheduled for round1?

2010-04-07 15:17

playzone vs playzone.se lions vs ravens

2010-04-07 15:28

P@UKI KL@N

2010-04-07 15:25

Aimstar: Plus: 1on1 won: +300 1on2 won: +500 1on3 won: +800 1on4 won: +1000 1on5 won: +1000 +1000 for 1vs5 situation win ? Why not a little more :D like +1200 or something. Because it doesnt seem logical that 1vs4 and 1vs5 have the same reward...

Max for any any of the roles is 1000.

Yep thanks, i saw your tips in live on the Player valuation menu :D

2010-04-07 15:34

I was thinking you can add a defuser/bomb planter role or something like that with few chips to win like tac leader role's! Think about it ;P

2010-04-07 15:37

Sadly we cannot get proper bomb stats when taking stats from demos, so we are not doing anything with the bomb.. We will however look to add more roles as we go, there are a lot more we can do.. :)

What the difference between Kill (+500) and One kill round (+50)? If one player do one kill every round you get a bonus of +50 and if He just did a kill once you get +500? I am sorry for harrassing you with my questions but this game is pretty attractive and fun :D

2010-04-07 15:41

If a player makes 1 kill in a round he will get 550.. I know it can seem a little confusing, kill should just say 550 instead, but I was tired when I did it..

No problem man You did a very Kewl job actually! And thanks again :D

Can you look into the Newbie role? Something's wrong here. You're always losing the money for this role. You could just have max 1000 for the role. But you might lost a lot valuation for the 'good role' the Newbie played.

2010-04-07 15:48

The role makes you money if the player does bad, HOWEVER the player value will drop due to the bad performance. Look at the newbie role as a way to cut your losses, if you got a bad player because you wanted face and f0rest and could only afford a bad player for last, then instead of losing 4000 when he does bad, you only lose 3000 because of his newbie role.. Your expensive players should make up for the loss and your team should stay competitive if you chose the expensive players correctly..

2010-04-07 15:51

I understand now. I'll get rid of the Newbie as soon as possible. Thanks Nomad.

I can try and help you. The Newbie role, for now, is intended to minimize the loss for a player. For example, if you choose 4 expensive players from good teams and then dont have much money left, you will have to choose a less valuable player. The less valuable player is most often from a team that doesnt do that well. Therefore that player is likely to lose money, if the team meets a very good team. By picking him for the Newbie role, you will be able to at least get 1000 back, though you will lose money overall. Bah Nomad..

2010-04-07 15:58

You're late to answer me but thanks anyway :)

2010-04-07 16:03

Np. mate. Thats why I wrote an edit saying "Bah Nomad", cause I saw his post after ^^

respect for your work guys :] reallly nice feature.

2010-04-07 15:55

"The market is closed till AFTER the matches tomorrow" It's pretty unfair saying it today, cuz almost everyone bought players only from yesterdays matches, now it's all clear, so imo now you should give us an option to change players, and later just keep it close from time to time, because we bought our players without all information we needed to create best lineup

2010-04-07 16:01

Opening it would be even MORE unfair because the guys who did good in the first round would now crazy ahead of everyone else if they were allowed a free trade, take 5 seconds to think objectively from the perspective of making the game fun for everyone, and not just your own team value for one second..

2010-04-07 16:09

so changing at least 1-2 players, to be part of tomorrow's matches

2010-04-07 16:23

no, cause u would get points in 6-7 players, and people who doesnt change lu, would only get for 5.. its fair like this, cause by the time playday 1 is over, tomorrow, all players, are going to have 1 match played... totally fair like this imo

2010-04-07 19:29

they would change it too

2010-04-07 19:50

monday will have all 1 match per player mTw vs cbteam 12th

2010-04-08 00:56

Very nice work! Thumbs up! =)

2010-04-07 16:11

its nice to see, that a lot of people going to watch demos and hltv because of individual skills of their players, its so fresh for the scene. But there are still some bugs in this game system (imo). - some roles are useless, like aimstar... there is too hard to reach the plus point in your game - players will be bought with the prediction of each upcoming EPS round, but after that, almost everyone will sell all of the players and buy new one, just with the predict for every new round... like SK vs playzone.swe, so Ill buy SK players with the predict od "easy game" and sell fnatic players, because its too risky,when they are going to play against mTw... but in next round, Ill sell all of the SK players and buy another one... I mean, its strange:-/ Buy five players but in next round sell all of them and buy another five...any restriction?

2010-04-07 16:13

Sure some roles might not be balanced, but it is VERY hard to know in advance and get them exactly right the first time.. The problem you describe is EXACTLY why the transfer market is currently closed, there will be a fee on all player transfers to avoid exactly what you are saying.

2010-04-07 16:16

perfect Next idea: Money earning/losing depending on total score reached of all players in your team at played EPS round. example: I have lineup: carn, allen, fyrrte, REAL, zet carn with score 18:14 allen with score 21:12 fyrrte with score 14:18 REAL with score 17:18 zet 12:20 so total score is 92:82, so +/- is at value of +10, so maybe $500 * 10 = total earn of $5000 ? It should be interesting too.

2010-04-07 16:27

Yea that sounds interesting, wont be added for the game running on EPS Nordic, but may for the next one, I'll keep it in mind.. :)

2010-04-07 16:42

maybe should be better make two changes in lineup in one round for free, but the other one with fee

2010-04-07 17:56

Maybe you won't agree with me but I think it must be limited. For example we can swap 3 times per day.

2010-04-07 16:21

I earned some of my money on the Aimstar rank yesterday :/

2010-04-07 18:17

with f0rest, right?:-)

2010-04-07 18:30

cArn all the way baby :D

2010-04-07 21:27

Can you put the fixtures up for enitre EPS nordic season on the coverage page, esl website is awful for finding fixtures etc

great idea!

there is a problem if a match is postponed to be the last match in the group, instead of the first one (i think it has happened already in some tournament, its more often online), so paying high fee to change the player, who wont play for some time(which is not your fault), is maybe not the right way to deal with it. maybe u should only put fee to sell a player which HAS already played a match in current group of matches (like here a group would be first round of EPS) my idea may also be a stupid one (wasnt really checking for bugs etc) :P nice game btw!

2010-04-07 16:41

Trading a player who has not played any matches for you will be free.

2010-04-07 16:46

yep sry, didnt read carefully :D

2010-04-07 16:58

I had nexis this week, does that mean I can swap him for a different player for tomorrows games?

2010-04-07 17:06

Why is nexiz in Ravens' team and not Ab Ovo?

2010-04-07 17:33

Because he moved there..

2010-04-07 17:35

I think you should change the role hacker. For example, if someone put face on the role hacker yesterday they only got 850€, even though he had 22-4 in stats and a 5.5 k/d ratio. I dont know how this rating thing works (which the role hacker is based upon) but I mean if face didn't get 1000€ for the role hacker yesterday, will anyone ever be able to?

2010-04-07 16:57

and the pistoleer role is 2 much unbalanced imo

2010-04-07 17:03

How come? No one yesterday got max on pistoleer..

2010-04-07 17:36

QCK top1 from Portugal. Nem os K1CK ahahaha

How did you guys buy Gux allen face GeT_RiGhT in one team we don't have much money for that can any one explain?

2010-04-07 17:14

who said he got gux allen face and gtr? as you said, it's impossible for first round

2010-04-07 17:18

Lovely idea:D. And a smart way to keep people @ hltv.org^^.

mk mk thanks :P

2010-04-07 17:19

lol i picked Jumpy yesterday.. such a bad idea.

2010-04-07 17:31

Can't you make a Schedule about the matches? So we can see what they are up against/when they play. Its boooooring to lock around everywhere..

I'll look into this..

2010-04-07 18:14

when mtw plays?

2010-04-07 18:05

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Monday..

so the transfer market will be close till monday? or re-open thursday?

2010-04-07 18:19

Not decided yet.

2010-04-07 18:26

close till monday because if re-opens thursday they will pick mTw players and win more € monday my choise

2010-04-07 19:08

you got ave for sure in your team :)

2010-04-07 19:51

i got zonic but if the transfer market opens thursday i will pick up all mTw team

2010-04-07 20:02

and you dont understand my point if my team was example: face allen walle zoop robban all these players played before thursday but if the transfer market opens thursday i will release my team and pick up mTw team than i will make more €

2010-04-07 20:07

so you can't buy all players in such good team cuz of budget and it would be stupid move, cuz you wont have chance to change them for few matches and if there's won't be chance of changing players often, how boring this game would become? changing players only few times for so many matches wont bring so much fun

2010-04-07 20:30

yes it brings more fun and it would be better "so you can't buy all players in such good team cuz of budget and it would be stupid move, cuz you wont have chance to change them for few matches" example

2010-04-07 20:47

you said you would buy all players from mTw, so until next market open, you won't earn any money, cuz those players won't play any match yet

2010-04-07 20:58

you dont understand read past comments

2010-04-07 21:04

now vll b up for the not so good teams' matches too.......

2010-04-07 18:11

join indias private league for indian ranking. :) its "indian pwners league" hltv.org/?pageid=233&eventid=536&teamid=.. refer ur friends too

2010-04-09 19:26

Yes that's what I wanted to know It would be unfair if some people were able to switch the lu between matches

2010-04-07 18:46

This competition definitely lacks some good motto :P

2010-04-07 18:52

And I think you have an idea because you said that this game needs motto :p

2010-04-07 22:14

Even if I had (:P), who said it actually needed one? ::) Even though, yes, I still think it lacks one ;D

2010-04-07 22:20

The market is closed till AFTER the matches tomorrow, this is a needed step, otherwise the winning strategy would be to simply switch all the players in your team to the ones playing tomorrow, and then flip them back after tomorrows matches. Shit!!! i had picked up my best 5 players initially, but then thought it was of no use to take players who aren't playing that day. But then, i changed my 5 to the players that would be playing. I have never played any fantsay leagues before so i dont know how the game is played. :(

2010-04-07 19:27

Well it is partly our fault too, but we had to kinda rush it out.. Don't worry we will run Dreamteam for future leagues where you will all know the game and can play it in the best way.. :)

2010-04-07 19:28

imo transfer market should be closed till play-offs, for all reasons sirAster named above..

2010-04-07 19:35

Well I think you could just use that tactics to the game between mtw and CBteam on monday, so if you'r gonna close it to thursday it should aswell be closed until the whole round is over (which it is after mondays game between mtw and CBteam). This is gonna be an even bigger problem in the future because of wildcard and rounds overlapping eachother.

2010-04-07 19:59

Great Efforts! Very much appreciated :) Thanks.

2010-04-07 20:46

i think someone suggested only being able to changed 2 or 3 players betweem rounds. i think thats a good idea if you cant come to an acceptable decision on the transfer fee idea

2010-04-07 21:14

how does our bank balance increases ? buy the money we get from the role ?

2010-04-07 21:21

It will be very smart and interesting to show players valuation changing on a graph when the tournament will end up, to compare the cost of each players before and after the ESL Nordic.

2010-04-07 22:04

There will be many graphs of a ton of stuff, no worries.. :)

This is fun and should have been created years ago (in general). =)

2010-04-07 23:30

omagawd KILL THEM ALL!

2010-04-07 23:55

The game is very good :D

2010-04-08 09:32

hltv.org <3 love this!

2010-04-08 10:21

this is wonderful ty hltv

2010-04-08 11:42

hltv.org ! nice .

2010-04-08 14:24

great stuff hltv crew, really. i dont know if anybody asked about that before but if you are going to create another league to play in (I mean like eps nordic) it is going to be eps german, right?

2010-04-08 16:12

I got a question about the dreamteam game. I wonder about how you figure out how to control the value of the players because some pick example f0rest as aimstar and others at sprayer, but when they are going to sell and buy another player will the value of f0rest still be the same? and after i have sold f0rest does hes value then raise at sprayer or aimstar?

2010-04-08 20:47