roman: "Not having Golden by our side was a factor, but we knew what we signed up for"

SAW could not qualify for back-to-back Majors after falling to BetBoom.

SAW did not have the benefit of a coach behind them, because they added Golden after the roster lock

Ricardo "⁠roman⁠" Oliveira and Christopher "⁠MUTiRiS⁠" Fernandes finally made the first Major of their long careers in March, but will miss the Shanghai Major after SAW were eliminated by BetBoom.

The squad endured a tricky period after making top-four at IEM Cologne, eventually leading to them benching star rifler Rafael "⁠arrozdoce⁠" Wing and parting ways with coach Danny "⁠BERRY⁠" Krüger.

After adding André "⁠Ag1l⁠" Gil and Maikil "⁠Golden⁠" Selim, the squad did win ESL Challenger Katowice on debut but their honeymoon was swiftly ended over three days in China.

Date Matches
Perfect World Shanghai Major 2024 Europe RMR A
17/11/2024
Finished
11:13
Match
17/11/2024
Finished
13:8
Match
18/11/2024
Finished
5:13
Match
19/11/2024
Finished
2:0
Match
20/11/2024
Finished
0:2
Match

"We thought it was the best decision for the team and we don't regret it," roman tells HLTV about removing BERRY and it's the same sentiment for arrozdoce.

Regardless of the turmoil, though, roman knows SAW could, and should, have done better. Entering as the No. 5 seed, they "knew that [they] had the level to beat most of the teams here."

That they did not, is down to them and them alone: "It just hurts, that we weren't good enough."

If you cannot see the Soundcloud embed above, listen to the interview here.


Unfortunately, it's 2-3 again after making the last major and missing this one, tell me how you're feeling about this

I mean it hurts, we knew that we had the level to beat most of the teams here and we were aiming to be at the major. It just hurts, that we weren't good enough. That's it basically.

Do you think it goes back to the opening day SINNERS game, because that's what put you on this path, often it's the BO1 upset, then it means that you need to play harder teams later on and things like that, how much you put this down to day one?

Nothing at all. I felt like we were better than BetBoom. I think we should have beaten them. I know that we can do so much better than this, and I'm just disappointed. I don't blame the loss to SINNERS on how we performed today. This is on us, and we got what we deserved, we should have been better.

How hard was it to not have Golden behind you during the games to help you reset and things like that?

Of course it matters, because he is an experienced IGL, and everything he says always makes sense to us. He's always there to help us. Not having him by our side during the matches is a factor but we knew what we signed up for. We just did what we thought was best for us and it was to get Golden on the team, and it was our possibility to do better.

Can you speak at all about BERRY's departure because it i think it is hard to know from the outside how that decision came about, knowing that you wouldn't be able to get a replacement coach to stand behind you?

I think I have spoken about it before. We thought it was the best decision for the team and we don't regret it, so there's not much I can add.

roman does not regret removing BERRY and arrozdoce

What you think was the main difference between Katowice and here, is it the pressure or? Because you played some good teams there, you beat some good teams obviously, what do you put this down to?

I think we just didn't perform at our usual level, probably we faced harder teams in Katowice, the only best team that we faced was NAVI, which was a really tough game. But overall I think that we just didn't show up this tournament, on the most important matches, and that's it, it's on us.

On ag1L as well, i think he had a very good start in Katowice, but it's hard for him to be thrown in the deep end here, what do you think about him, there's still potential there right?

Of course. He is a great player. These games, he had bad moments as well, but it happens to everybody. He did some great things here, and I feel like he can just get better from now on. I'm happy that we have him on the team.

Is there any sorrow that arrozdoce isn't here for you at all?

Not at all, he made his decision, we made ours, and we did what was the best for the team.

Going into next year, how confident are you you're going to be able to keep this team together?

We'll see, we just finish the major, probably everyone is going to have a talk and we'll see. But everything that will happen, it'll be for the team, we'll do the best for the team and whatever happens I think everybody will understand, and that's it.

Portugal Rafael 'arrozdoce' Wing
Rafael 'arrozdoce' Wing
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
608
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
Portugal Ricardo 'roman' Oliveira
Ricardo 'roman' Oliveira
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
1680
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.68
Sweden Maikil 'Golden' Selim
Maikil 'Golden' Selim
Age:
30
Team:
Portugal André 'Ag1l' Gil
André 'Ag1l' Gil
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
478
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.66
Portugal Christopher 'MUTiRiS' Fernandes
Christopher 'MUTiRiS' Fernandes
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1773
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Danny 'BERRY' Krüger
Danny 'BERRY' Krüger
Age:
34
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.87
Maps played:
826
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.73
#1
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Sweden fastflop
deserved, you dont remove 2 key members just like that before major even if its dysfunctional
2024-11-20 22:47
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The situation is a bit complex. Arrozdoce wanted to leave SAW at the end of 2024, and he decided to inform the org with lead time (probably so that they could start scouting and plan a replacement with time) Instead of keeping him, the org threw a tantrum because he wanted to leave and decided to instantly bench him, which doesn't make sense at all, and they are now facing the consequences of that atrocious decision As for Berry I have no info about why he was kicked
2024-11-21 11:04
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The second paragraph is kinda speculation, we know the org made a tantrum but we don't know if it was the org to bench him, the team or if the player benched himself. As for Berry, its most likely due to changing the player, but again, its only speculation
2024-11-21 14:33
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The player did not choose to bench himself, he wanted to play until the end of the year, the bench came from the org, I have a very reliable source on this
2024-11-21 16:11
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2 replies
the org or the team? If you have a source I guess I have nothing to add xD
2024-11-21 20:38
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1 reply
The bench came from the org management, the team wanted to keep him until the end of the year as said by mut in twitter when arrozdoce got benched, the team got forced to choose a replacement
2024-11-22 09:20
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#2
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Argentina Ademar
Just get on the damn plane bro
2024-11-20 22:49
45
5 replies
#6
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Portugal LOIS69
SAW nº1 fan
2024-11-20 22:59
6
Hes waiting for OG to qualify for this major
2024-11-20 23:37
13
you live and breathe for saw and og news
2024-11-20 23:38
0
IM ONLY HUMAN
2024-11-21 04:00
1
#32
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Portugal S!im*
Wake me up when OG is on major bro
2024-11-21 12:25
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#3
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Austria Im_The_One
Stupid moves from stupid players, just go home... they dont deserve any major spot...
2024-11-20 22:50
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#4
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United States Schwabies_
Guy wants to explore his options with his contract ending and you are so selfish you bench him. Berry probably called them out for being dumb and he gets kicked too. Deserved fall off
2024-11-20 22:51
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#5
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United States AJR123123
you couldve had berry by your side
2024-11-20 22:51
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NO BERRY NO MAJOR also no snaptap
2024-11-20 23:01
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7 replies
#13
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Switzerland Tsigalko9
Did they win esl challenger with snap tap? Nope
2024-11-20 23:45
7
6 replies
You mean that prestigious Tier 2 tournament with B8, falcons, paiN, EF, Legacy and mibr? lmao
2024-11-21 00:00
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#20
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ZywOo | 
Portugal cluzenjs
talking about snaptap when many pro players used it, when Heroic were caught using snaptap on LAN and they lost a map because of that :D you're just a brainless
2024-11-21 00:52
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#23
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Israel mcnamaras_EEEdiots
yeah but heroic doesnt have any fans or attention
2024-11-21 01:26
0
#45
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Bhutan r4ven_
why are u acting like saw is a tier 1 team lmao winning katowice was definitely a great achievement for them
2024-11-22 19:22
0
SAW suck...
2024-11-21 00:59
0
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Bro your goat also sucks and is washed AF now, and you're still here
2024-11-21 11:56
0
swim home bro
2024-11-20 23:04
1
#9
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United States r0l4nd_
no major for the snap tap abusers, desired outcome
2024-11-20 23:26
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#36
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Portugal couves0007
it has been 3 months since the match just get over it
2024-11-21 16:41
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#11
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rugrat | 
Hungary Therealkabumm
kicking your best player wasnt smart for a bot
2024-11-20 23:37
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#14
Faceit level 8  | 
DZ | 
Algeria SilverQuick
Sad for SAW.
2024-11-20 23:47
0
nice excuse
2024-11-21 00:01
0
#18
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Bulgaria 1mage_x
u mean not having arrozdoce haha
2024-11-21 00:26
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#19
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Sweden Vrede
Alright, its okay to cry but cry more pls
2024-11-21 00:37
0
SAW suck thats is the only excuse
2024-11-21 00:59
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#24
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Germany amazingn0ne
Joaquim next time put your arrogance behind before you risk 200k€, dumbo
2024-11-21 01:33
4
7 replies
#28
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Slovakia GloryMole
arrogandoce
2024-11-21 08:54
0
#31
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Portugal S!im*
Not only joaquim, probably roman and mutiris got some shares in SAW tbh. Some moves are strange and the way most of the time is just mut or roman talking about the team situation is weird for me.
2024-11-21 12:07
1
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In this particular situation the bench came straight from the org, both arrozdoce's and the team's will (as said by Mutiris on Twitter when arrozdoce was benched) was to keep him on the roster until the end of 2024, but the org threw a tantrum and decided to insta bench arrozdoce because he wanted to leave at the end of the season
2024-11-21 16:18
1
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#37
Faceit level 10  | 
Germany amazingn0ne
I do usually point the finger at roman and mut too, but I agree with you.
2024-11-21 18:10
0
3 replies
I mean, mut isn't really "flamable", if you actually check he's one of the best fragging IGLs in the world statwise, he carries a lot of rounds and he is the face of SAW I do consider coaching staff to be a major factor because it is kinda known in our fanbase that mut calls and plays a lot off feeling, he doesn't really micromanage alot nor does he have super set plans off the spawn, so a coaching staff that is capable of bringing new ideas and a head coach that is able to contribute a lot in terms of micro manage and setups both on CT and T during pauses is crucial IMO. roman has had struggles in the past performance-wise, but lately he's been improving a lot and you can see that by his stats, he's not really the problem, at least not right now
2024-11-21 18:36
1
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#43
Faceit level 10  | 
Germany amazingn0ne
yes totally. I think Mut is a great player and IGL, rmn I'm not such a fan, specially as he gives off arrogance vibes and is often the worst player ingame with roles of star player. The arrogant way of speaking when the subject is other players on the team/ex-teammates makes me think he is kind of a snake in the team. Hopefully I'm wrong though. Portuguese cs players don't really clarify these things to the public, so it's hard to know for certain
2024-11-22 13:01
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I'm not sure about rmn's atitute behind the scenes, but he doesn't seem like a rude or toxic player on the SAW vlogs, he screams in-game but that's just part of cs banter and he does it to motivate the team since our 3 young players are kind of quiet (ewjerkz, story & ag1l) Domestically I don't think anyone in our community has ever had a bad opinion about rmn attitude-wise, even ex-teammates or teams always say good things about him, so I'm pretty sure he's not toxic or arrogant
2024-11-22 16:31
1
"we had our most successful year ever let's ruin that by making stupid changes just before the RMR" deserved
2024-11-21 03:24
4
When your ego is bigger than your desire to make sticker money. Sad for the fans
2024-11-22 08:03
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