Sources: Falcons in talks over HEROIC trio

The Saudi organization is hoping to secure a ready-made core to get a boost in the Valve Ranking.

TeSeS, kyxsan and degster could be joining Falcons

Falcons are locked in discussions with HEROIC over the triple signing of Damjan "⁠kyxsan⁠" Stoilkovski, René "⁠TeSeS⁠" Madsen and Abdul "⁠degster⁠" Gasanov, sources with knowledge of the situation told HLTV and independent reporter Guillaume 'neL' Rathier.

The Saudi organization is hoping to pair the trio with Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač and Emil "⁠Magisk⁠" Reif and form a lineup that can secure invites to the biggest events through HEROIC's Valve Ranking points.

Talks between the two organizations are understood to be at an advanced stage, but Falcons have yet to agree on personal terms with the players.

If completed, the transfer could leave HEROIC with only one player, Rasmus "⁠sjuush⁠" Beck, amid reports that Guy "⁠NertZ⁠" Iluz is on his way to Liquid to fill the gap created by Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis's benching.

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Falcons have been in the market for new players after benching Marco "⁠Snappi⁠" Pfeiffer, Pavle "⁠Maden⁠" Bošković and Peter "⁠dupreeh⁠" Rasmussen and opting against extending Oleksandr "⁠s1mple⁠" Kostyliev's loan. The roster overhaul came in the aftermath of a failed qualification campaign for the Shanghai Major, which the Saudi organization described as "an incredibly disappointing and heartbreaking setback."

Falcons were frustrated in their efforts to sign Ilya "⁠m0NESY⁠" Osipov as G2 are unwilling to part with another star player despite the risk of losing the Russian prodigy for free at the end of next year. The European giants are already looking for a replacement for NiKo, who is set to move to Falcons at the start of 2025.

The failure to land m0NESY forced the Saudi organization to look at alternatives, like signing emerging players such as Michel "⁠ewjerkz⁠" Pinto and Dmytro "⁠jambo⁠" Semera.

But signing a ready-made core has always been the priority for Falcons, who also attempted to lure trios from FaZe and MOUZ, without success, sources said. In the end, they turned to HEROIC, who are currently ranked eighth in the world by Valve after a playoff run at the Major.

Montenegro Pavle 'Maden' Bošković
Pavle 'Maden' Bošković
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1059
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.70
Denmark Rasmus 'sjuush' Beck
Rasmus 'sjuush' Beck
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1253
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.65
Ukraine Dmytro 'jambo' Semera
Dmytro 'jambo' Semera
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
405
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.63
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
2303
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
Denmark Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1746
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
Portugal Michel 'ewjerkz' Pinto
Michel 'ewjerkz' Pinto
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
661
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.69
Denmark René 'TeSeS' Madsen
René 'TeSeS' Madsen
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1260
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Marco 'Snappi' Pfeiffer
Marco 'Snappi' Pfeiffer
Age:
34
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1942
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.68
Russia Abdul 'degster' Gasanov
Abdul 'degster' Gasanov
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
940
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.60
Latvia Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1478
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.69
Israel Guy 'NertZ' Iluz
Guy 'NertZ' Iluz
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
675
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.67
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
2005
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.66
North Macedonia Damjan 'kyxsan' Stoilkovski
Damjan 'kyxsan' Stoilkovski
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
942
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.67
Russia Ilya 'm0NESY' Osipov
Ilya 'm0NESY' Osipov
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.19
Maps played:
640
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.60
Ukraine Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Oleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.24
Maps played:
1739
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.64
Bruh Rip heroic
2024-12-29 11:00
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#77
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Finland BBDonk
Rip falcons too
2024-12-29 11:11
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They are cooked to begin with
2024-12-29 11:14
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They're in the typical death spiral of an org who spends too much at the beginning. Now they feel like they have to sign mediocre players to save money. I'd be willing to bet Falcons will be out of CS within the next 2 years.
2024-12-29 11:37
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#177
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
HooXi | 
Sweden penismodel
idk, they are making bank over in dota 2 kinda
2024-12-29 12:16
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#238
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
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Denmark Berry_ON_FIRE
cuz cs orgs have money so they dont need to sell there players to falcons no matter the cost
2024-12-29 14:38
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#320
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United States eldrexe
and rocket league
2024-12-30 08:42
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They are making bank everywhere + unlimited Saudi money
2024-12-29 12:25
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#196
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Germany Djinigami
What do you mean by "save money"? They literally wanted to buy out monesy after already having done the deal with Niko, not to mention the whole s1mple loan thing. If they could have bought a higher ranked core, they would have, but this is the best they can get currently
2024-12-29 12:39
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Nop, unlimited money glitch to OP. Just look at other esport or sports, from F1 over soccer, tennis, golf boxing oil money everywhere
2024-12-29 12:43
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Same
2024-12-29 16:21
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#233
Faceit level 8 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
zont1x | 
Russia shoras
Nah that's good for Falcons. But heroic is kill...
2024-12-29 14:01
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#245
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United Kingdom Junly_
nah, niko is better than nertz (while being more active), and magisk is better than sjuush in any way. Major contender for sure
2024-12-29 15:04
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#315
Faceit level 8  | 
NiKo | 
China skyojoj
kyxsan is a good igl, it's a good choice
2024-12-30 05:05
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Can heroic catch a breathe. Jezz
2024-12-29 11:21
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Making bag has always been their goal like ence with signings
2024-12-29 11:28
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Heroic is just an investor team, never really getting a winning roster, but always selling players for more than they bought them for
2024-12-29 13:08
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😭😭😭😭😭😭 rip
2024-12-29 11:24
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#262
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Ant1ka | 
World CaptainAllen
For a second time 3 of NertZ's teammates got approached by Falcons XD
2024-12-29 15:58
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Nah they are farming easy buyouts.
2024-12-29 16:53
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#288
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Czech Republic Sl4e
r.i.p.
2024-12-29 19:51
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Ah shit here we go again, also wasn't Degster to join VP? xd
2024-12-29 11:01
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#25
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China HouGuoYu
3 ppl can be the core maybe its sjuush,kyx and teses to falcons liquid +nertz vp+ degster
2024-12-29 11:02
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#29
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Czech Republic BorecLp
falcons wouldnt have awper
2024-12-29 11:03
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#41
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Czech Republic allas
c9 awperless meta
2024-12-29 11:05
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#65
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Czech Republic BorecLp
Well we all saw how that went...
2024-12-29 11:09
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quarters at major lmao /s
2024-12-29 14:58
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#42
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China HouGuoYu
good question
2024-12-29 11:06
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They do have Sunpayus on the bench though, and if it's Sjuusj then it won't be Magisk
2024-12-29 11:55
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#155
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Czech Republic BorecLp
I mean Magisk is their best player by far it would be criminal to bench him
2024-12-29 11:56
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1 reply
I agree, but if they want a trio and Register goes to VP it's kind of their only choice. Sjuush isn't bad either, it's just Magisk is better
2024-12-29 11:59
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sunpayus is the best player on the entire roster, other than maybe niko when hes playing well and not malding.
2024-12-29 22:16
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1 reply
I agree, him on the bench is wierd
2024-12-30 08:05
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weren't they looking at jambo or did it fail?
2024-12-29 12:30
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#246
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United Kingdom Junly_
probably going on two ways
2024-12-29 15:05
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#39
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Germany Hoansz
heroic trio niko magisk ewjerkz jambo new Chelsea???
2024-12-29 11:05
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niko fell through ewjerkz fell through after he saw niko aint joining, jambo, magixx at home, heroic -degster -nertz makes the most sense no?
2024-12-29 11:10
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#259
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Germany StefanSchmidt
When did Niko fall through?
2024-12-29 15:51
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That was me coping that he won't go into the retirement home himself but with g2 heavygod i guess it's joever
2024-12-29 15:52
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#261
Faceit level 5  | 
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Germany StefanSchmidt
Niko to falcons was confirmed like a month ago
2024-12-29 15:54
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2 replies
niko has basically thought fuck it, if i cant win anything even in a team with monesy etc, then i may as well go earn loads of cash.
2024-12-29 22:17
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#305
Faceit level 5  | 
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Germany StefanSchmidt
yes i know
2024-12-29 23:35
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seems like my boy sjuush is getting left behind in the mud not once but twice, Brutal.
2024-12-29 11:06
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His a professional, not some childhood friendship team playing
2024-12-29 11:29
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9 replies
What
2024-12-29 11:30
1
8 replies
you are not getting "left behind" at work or as a professional player
2024-12-29 11:48
0
7 replies
Dude come on having your entire roster leave you twice in a year is getting left behind
2024-12-29 11:48
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6 replies
The roster isn’t leaving him, the org might sell them tho. You seem to be 12 or something talking like that. I hope you don’t think it works like that😅 I don’t think he goes to bed crying ”my team left me buuu fucking hooo”
2024-12-29 11:59
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I'm 12? What argument are you even trying to make here? I am actually confused. Of course he still is salaried with a job. His entire team is gone besides his coach, I didn't say HEROIC the organization physically got up and left him behind in the mud by himself like it's elementary school recess during tag and sjuush took a little tumble. Is this some sort of language barrier? Do you need meds?
2024-12-29 12:00
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” my boy sjuush is getting left behind in the mud not once but twice, Brutal.” Yes, you actually said exactly that hehe
2024-12-29 12:22
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the 13yo calling people 12
2024-12-29 12:26
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you will understand when you get a job and grow up :)
2024-12-29 13:37
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#332
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
COCAINE | 
Uruguay RamzeYC9
Lmao working 8 hours as a slave for a boss is nothing to be proud of.
2024-12-30 19:07
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#50
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Singapore ryanchiew
impossible, no awper for them if they sign sjuush
2024-12-29 11:07
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Vp +Icy
2024-12-29 12:56
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA We are out here talking about m0NESY and these guys can't even pull torzsi My respect for FaZe and MOUZ just skyrocketted after REJECTING Failcons Edit: Johnny Speeds core could have accepted their offer The finalists for 2024 Worst Coach of the Year by @1xBet_Esports, voted by our panel🧐 @zonic @zonic @zonic
2024-12-29 11:06
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Brother they don't want to compete for tier 12 trophies and svenska cup, why would they sign them?
2024-12-29 11:10
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#4
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United States @@@@
LOL
2024-12-29 11:00
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1 reply
what a joke … Heroic was so fucking mid this year
2024-12-29 13:43
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#5
Faceit level 8  | 
NiKo | 
India ga7axy
bro what
2024-12-29 11:01
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#6
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Indonesia Ottoline
RIP NiKo
2024-12-29 11:01
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Last time same thing happened. Zonic too tired of recieving paychecks, bro can't even put a team together
2024-12-29 11:01
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#8
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Australia Urbanomics
LMAO
2024-12-29 11:01
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WTFFF Saw Be Watching his CORE getting poached by Falcons once every season..
2024-12-29 11:02
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I will do anything for saw to liquid Or yet better please I NEED a saw to vitality move
2024-12-29 11:04
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Many teams even FaZe will benefit with a coach like Saw . I think Twistzz is working very close to mithrr and he's been there ever since he started igling so i dont think it'll happen and mithrr is also a much needed hypeman for the team with jks,naf and ultimate.
2024-12-29 11:07
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I like mithr I’m not taking anything from him but imo saw might be the best coach in the scene for the past two years…
2024-12-29 11:08
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I totally agree with you but there might be a personal/emotional angle here even though it is a said professional environment
2024-12-29 11:10
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No doubt it will probably won’t happen I agree on that, but I just said it will benefit this team a lot, saw is amazing at developing talents as well as he might be one of the best theory coaches there is. But there is also no doubt there are top 8 teams that needs saw more than liquid does…
2024-12-29 11:12
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exactly my point, saw can walk into any team and be better coach than they have now (except NaVi,Spirit,Mouz ofc).
2024-12-29 11:14
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I mean of course I’m not comparing him to people like biade or sycrone, not because I think he’s inferior but because there’s no point in it these are all amazing coaches that has made an unbelievable system and neither of the 3 would be able the maintain the others team, they’re all better at something else, I just believe working with saw will benefit both ultimate and twistzz a lot as the are the two players that need the most growth within that liquid roster
2024-12-29 11:19
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not just liquid Vitality - More Stable System(mold players like flamez) Faze - More Help to Karrigan(needed) Falcons - It's his core after all he knows what to do G2 - I will not bother stating the reason here!
2024-12-29 11:22
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I just think liquid is best for him because it’s not a fully established team, saw coming and trying to alter the system in a team like vitality will cause arguments between apex and him. Same with faze even tho karrigan is less “angry” than apex. In g2 the entire team plays the way it suits m0nesy and trying to implement a more healthy system that will take away some of his freedom might hurt him and also maybe can make him want to leave. falcons he could be great but I don’t think falcons is looking to get rid of zonic even tho he isn’t doing well lately…
2024-12-29 11:48
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2024-12-29 12:47
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What has taz actually done? So much firepower yet can't even make it to the semi-finals in a major. Niko is a clueless choker as always.
2024-12-29 13:22
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"What has Taz done". Win Dallas without IGL and with Stewie2k.
2024-12-29 13:53
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#307
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
Is he serious? Or is that sattire?
2024-12-30 00:18
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and still building a better team than failclowns xddd
2024-12-29 11:06
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#54
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Europe pf1cha
SAW to Vitality, here we go
2024-12-29 11:07
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That'll work well actually anywhere saw goes it'll work but I think Vitality keep xqtzzz for atleast one more season french connection too stronk!!
2024-12-29 11:08
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#99
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Europe pf1cha
I know that NEO will never kick the voldemort because of friendship. But it would be so good if Vita signed a new coach and gave him a time
2024-12-29 11:20
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#142
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Finland ||||
There we land
2024-12-29 11:49
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XDDDDDDDDDDDD
2024-12-29 11:01
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so nertz is leaving because of this or are the heroic trio joining falcons because nertz left ?
2024-12-29 11:01
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Don’t know, don’t care Pleaseee saw to liquid I’m on my knees
2024-12-29 11:02
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1 reply
Saw to anywhere is good
2024-12-29 12:37
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thats just ence 2.0 lmaoo, even with Saw as a coach
2024-12-29 11:06
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well, this time they'll have Niko which could work, last falcons roster didn't because Nertz was very important on that roster but now they have someone that can be like him
2024-12-29 12:42
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obviously falcons dont get nertz . my guess is they had the deal first and nertz left later as in the blast bounty rule we knew they had a top 30 core and we have known for a while and maybe after that nertz was available and liquid benched yekindar only after knowing that they had an option ready . It would also mean that liquid and Elige deal fell through as we have known elige is leaving but yekindar benching only became public now.
2024-12-29 11:17
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#143
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
b1t | 
United Kingdom Barny980
I feel like falcons wouldn’t sign nertz just based on something else…
2024-12-29 11:49
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It would be funny if something like that happened not once but twice to Nertz because of falcons
2024-12-29 11:52
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if -nertz to liquid and -degster to vp then yeah, remaining 3 players probably not having too much fun, and an option to play with niko and magisk is credible (as long as 1 of them agrees to awp and then get kicked in 6-12 months when m0nesy rolls over)
2024-12-29 11:54
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the article states that degster is rumored to join falcons and they're just not going to sign 5 players but no awpers sure they could get m0nesy later but falcons just don't plan long term, they made a roster move like every 3 months for the last 3 years they've been involved in cs
2024-12-29 12:46
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if degster goes to falcons they get a sunpayus level awp at the cost of fucking over sjuush, which would also be odd unless we're about to learn of sjuush to g2 or something
2024-12-29 12:57
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they have sunpayus and he probably as good as degster or something like, sure but degster (alongside teses + kyxsan) is the core of heroic which means they'll be invited directly which is very very valuable (the others would probably not join if they didn't have a core) they could maybe sign sjuush and list sunpayus as a sub to use him or smthing but that's just trying too hard when they can (and probably already have) sign degster sjuush is also not that good, if they don't sign a better player then we will most likely seen m0nesy actually leave at the end of the year
2024-12-29 13:03
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Hahaha falcons just takes what ever core nertz plays with
2024-12-29 11:01
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#13
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China HouGuoYu
lol clown org
2024-12-29 11:01
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broooo waht the hell
2024-12-29 11:01
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#15
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
mazay | 
Japan makermeetsu
Should have talked with Eyeballers instead...
2024-12-29 11:02
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#16
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Australia SleepyAsp
Nah this lineup has potential
2024-12-29 11:02
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Im so confused, didnt they want ewjerks and jambo xd
2024-12-29 11:02
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those were the options in case they didnt find anyone better
2024-12-29 11:08
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#153
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Slovakia Psycho2k
That was probably secondary option
2024-12-29 11:55
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1 reply
7 man roster even if they play 7v5 they will probably still lose vs top teams lol
2024-12-29 12:27
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#18
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United States Virgin Islands donkgod
holy mid roster
2024-12-29 11:02
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Wait, isn't this exactly like Ence last year?
2024-12-29 11:02
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#20
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India Nujen
Another Core Ruined by Falcons
2024-12-29 11:02
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such a disasterclass by Falcons management
2024-12-29 11:02
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#22
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Israel Sykkko
sjuush ))))))))))):
2024-12-29 11:02
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#23
Faceit level 10  | 
Czech Republic starycs
Zonic strikes again
2024-12-29 11:02
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#24
rain | 
Finland BBDonk
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
2024-12-29 11:02
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#27
PR | 
Romania PROXY_v2
So deal with jambo and ewj fail through?
2024-12-29 11:03
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1 reply
Maybe jambo going fnatic with fear
2024-12-29 14:40
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At this point its gonna be a 15 man roster they can’t make up their minds lmao
2024-12-29 11:03
4
1 reply
Falcons taking pages from the EG strat book, buy out a bunch of rosters and create a “talent pipeline”
2025-01-01 06:23
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#30
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Finland Misttaa
I genuinely wonder who is making these moves? It's gotta be someone who doesn't understand CS at all.... They basically had all the facilities to poach MOUZ players and still aren't (well technically we don't know about jimi yet) but still!
2024-12-29 11:03
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9 replies
Jimmy said no, he is part of the core
2024-12-29 11:04
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#40
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Finland Misttaa
Didn't know this, all I remember was him leaving the falcons door open. But thanks. :)
2024-12-29 11:05
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1 reply
You can check last hltv confirmed video on yt. striker said that Jimmy refused to join without m0nesy.
2024-12-29 11:08
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You did not read the article “ signing a ready-made core has always been the priority for Falcons, who also attempted to lure trios from FaZe and MOUZ, without success”
2024-12-29 11:06
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#55
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Finland Misttaa
Yep you got me haha.
2024-12-29 11:07
0
1 reply
No worries, commenting and then reading the article is a bad habit I dabble in aswell
2024-12-29 11:09
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Well, they don’t want to sign xertioN, Jimmy said no. Signing other three is like signing Ence without nertz. Also, I’m sure that boys are happy to stay in Mouz
2024-12-29 11:11
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1 reply
The reasons why are reasonable I just stated that they did try to go for mouz core…
2024-12-29 11:13
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Jimmy said: if monesy doesnt go there, its nonsense to go there
2024-12-29 11:22
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I told you saudi will destroy another team. No way Niko agreed to play online qualifies
2024-12-29 11:03
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#147
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Comoros Zerua
They couldve just gone and kept their 2024 core like this: Sunpayus Maden Magisk NiKo Kyxsan or another IGL
2024-12-29 11:51
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Is heroic just gonna not have a roster next season?
2024-12-29 11:03
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2 replies
naw, sAw is going to somehow someway build up a whole new core from the ground up and by some miracle that new roster will be a decently good top 10 roster and perform better than the falcons.
2025-01-01 06:27
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falcons steal that core again and the cycle continues
2025-01-01 06:51
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Zonic is the biggest paycheck stealer and fr4ud in the history of esports
2024-12-29 11:04
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you cant be a fraud with 5 majors bro. People always switch around by saying it was either glaive who carried zonic when zonic has bad period or vice versa
2024-12-29 12:20
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3 replies
Zonic had 5 prime players
2024-12-29 13:03
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2 replies
what about vitality where he had washed dupreeh and washed apex? Thats because of zywoo carry this time or what? Because then every major is invalid in history other than the fluke navi win
2024-12-29 13:28
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1 reply
i give to zonic the fact that he could control bette apex mental. couple that with the goat of esport pshichologists and you can get vitality to perform which is really the only thing missing from the team
2024-12-29 15:00
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#34
Faceit level 9  | 
Jesus | 
Kazakhstan yTuHbIe_ucTopuu
Falcons targeted stars before and now they pick up crumbs
2024-12-29 11:04
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Zonic Falcons routine: - wake up - steals a core trio and +2 - eat - shit the bed - blame mouse change - bench entire roster minus Magisk - sleep - rinse and repeat
2024-12-29 11:04
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2 replies
I laughed so hard with "shit the bed"
2024-12-29 11:07
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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2024-12-29 11:08
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#45
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Romania aLeeeeex
what a shitshow this org is
2024-12-29 11:06
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#46
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Ukraine d3adLY
Ahahh, kyxsan, one silver (snappi) for another
2024-12-29 11:06
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3 replies
kyxsan is much better than snappi
2024-12-29 11:11
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#122
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Ukraine d3adLY
Better but not "much", they are both very bad players
2024-12-29 11:33
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1 reply
With how tournament invites work , this is about the best Falcons could do, they needed a ranked core
2024-12-29 11:36
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#53
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Taiwan Arkam47
Should have.
2024-12-29 11:07
0
niko XD
2024-12-29 11:08
0
lmao bruh
2024-12-29 11:08
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#59
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Ukraine Kelsso
Zonic destroyed ENCE now he want to destroy Heroic gj
2024-12-29 11:08
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#63
ropz | 
Slovakia nvrn06
clown fiesta
2024-12-29 11:08
0
Niko will never win major with Falcons
2024-12-29 11:09
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#67
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Nepal ekadeshma
holy falcons actually got a good core of players
2024-12-29 11:09
2
I knew it, degster was referring to Falcons not VP
2024-12-29 11:09
0
They did not learn their lesson, SAW obviously has well working system within talented players, but nothing more. Falcons want to win trophies? They wont achieve this with pouching trophieless cores.
2024-12-29 11:15
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9 replies
They almost beat the top teams at the major, with niko and magisk they could def win tournaments
2024-12-29 17:02
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zonic is really determined to prove that saw is a better coach than him.
2024-12-29 21:22
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7 replies
Zonic has nothing to prove, even if he fails at Falcons for next year, guy still is most acomplished coach in CS history, while nobody is even close to him.
2024-12-30 07:22
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6 replies
one major with zywoo when the scene was weak is not that impressive. it's his 4 majors with astralis that elevate him above blade for now. but when blade wins his 3rd or 4th major imo they can become tied for all time achievement, because the astralis success was ALL one roster (ignoring kjaerbye for certain reasons). it's really difficult to say how good a coach is when he keeps working with the same players for that long. doesn't mean he must be overrated but it means we just can't tell how good he was. in terms of dealing with different players zonic and blade are already tied, maybe blade even has an advantage. after all he had magisk AND dupreeh on vitality. blade kept only b1t around. best coach nowadays is blade. best coach all time is zonic until blade wins more majors. I think it's a foregone conclusion that zonic won't win another major. he is about to get niko, sealing his fate completely.
2024-12-30 09:04
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Blade lacks 15 notable trophies to catch Zonic excluding majors.
2024-12-30 09:09
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4 replies
imo this is an unfair standard. during astralis era 1. the scene was less competitive. 2. astralis farmed blasts which aren't going to be a thing moving forward. so in the future you can't really compare lifetime achievement in number of "notable trophies", not unless the new schedule provides enough of those (depends on where tier 1 teams choose to play, right? I'm a little in the dark about these plans still) and the scene settles back into a state where one team can dominate. navi's second half of 2024 actually was as dominant as astralis era - until they botched the major. so it turned from a dominant season into just a long streak in a competitive season. I'm not sure any team can ever replicate the astralis era and it's not because astralis were god gamers, it's that the low hanging fruit get fewer every season. the floor is rising while the ceiling stagnates. only mega-talented individuals like donk can still shake things up in tier 1 now.
2024-12-30 09:20
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1. Short answer bs, longer: VP, Faze, SK, french teams, C9, Liquid. 2. Bs. Theres just as many trophies to win as there were before. You can only win whatever you got in front of you and Navi still cant do this as good.
2024-12-30 09:30
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2 replies
1. the level played in tier 1 was a joke compared to now. the peaks may be similar but the floor was pathetic. a tier 1 team today would casually stroll through any tournament in 2015 because every team back then just made so many small mistakes round after round that add up to where it's not a competitive affair. some of that also had to do with MR15 BO3s and even BO5+ being common where now you're lucky if you get more than one BO3 before you're eliminated. there was LOW HANGING FRUIT to find and astralis happened to do the best job of harvesting that while other teams played a less cerebral, less coordinated style that was more about mechanics and momentum. nowadays all teams are extremely tactically sound. there aren't the same gaps to exploit. 2. so you think tier 1 teams will attend all the same events? because if more teams act like mouz and spirit did in 2024 then there are fewer tier 1 trophies to win, regardless of what the prize pools or Valve points are. we will see.
2024-12-30 10:31
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1 reply
Im not even reading that, sorry mate. Lots od words not much of meaning coming out of you.
2024-12-30 11:46
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Degster to falcons Zorte to vp Is heroic starting from 0 again?
2024-12-29 11:11
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#75
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Finland Dentrowl
Falcons are the biggest clown org like wtf??? Or zonic really hates sAw and wants to buy and destroy every team he builds xd
2024-12-29 11:11
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Sjush come to vitality bro
2024-12-29 11:11
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1 reply
I could get behind that. sAw too.
2024-12-29 12:43
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The Saudi org seems to be desperate to put up something 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡 their super team turned out to be super 💩💩💩 🤑🤑🤑🤑
2024-12-29 11:11
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At this point you might as well just bring back boros
2024-12-29 11:12
2
Loooool what a mess the scene rn
2024-12-29 11:12
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#85
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Yugoslavia lapace
What a good day to be liquid fan.
2024-12-29 11:13
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#89
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Europe _Liam_
"Falcons attempted to lure FaZe trio, without success" Why did they even try lol
2024-12-29 11:14
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1 reply
Faze esports is disbanding...
2024-12-29 11:15
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device to NiP check hltv
2024-12-29 11:14
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#91
Faceit plus user Faceit level 4  | 
karrigan | 
Germany Pummel
wtf is this shit
2024-12-29 11:14
0
lmao again? cant wait for more zonics excuses...
2024-12-29 11:15
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#95
B1ad3 | 
Finland n3iki
Maybe they should sign sAw since they like to poach his players
2024-12-29 11:17
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Kyxsan IGLing Niko and degster. Going to have a shit time
2024-12-29 11:18
0
steal faze core
2024-12-29 11:22
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2 replies
#105
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Europe _Liam_
getting g2 core is more realistic
2024-12-29 11:23
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1 reply
g2 core is 2 players and they got half of them
2024-12-29 11:57
2
ok the good news is that sAw can finally land in a good tier one team. but which one? g2 maybe?
2024-12-29 11:22
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#106
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
this shit again lmao well good luck.
2024-12-29 11:24
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#107
Faceit level 9  | 
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Brazil lilpeepBigCityBlues
Bro this FALCONS lineup is terrible 💀 also NiKo + jambo + ewjerkz looks better than signing Heroic NiKo really gave up on trying to win a major, GG
2024-12-29 11:28
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1 reply
niko + jambo + ewjerkz would be invite quals, whereas heroic core would mean top 10 invites, so that part makes sense from dumbass management perspective. niko + jambo + ewjerkz + good igl would've resulted in a great cs a year down the line tho. potentially, i think it's still gonna be a shitshow where whoever is the awper will know that they're getting tossed in favour of m0nesy the second that m0nesy wants that to happen
2024-12-29 11:58
2
I actually like the jambo ewjerkz team much more
2024-12-29 11:24
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#110
Faceit level 10  | 
Estonia akshanXDXD
what a clown fiesta
2024-12-29 11:25
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#111
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Ukraine _Z1N_
Ence scenario 2.0
2024-12-29 11:25
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1 reply
Degster will return to his bad form. They will sign simple to replace him. Teses will clash with zonic They will sign xypex to replace him.
2024-12-29 15:16
0
LOOOOOL
2024-12-29 11:26
0
I really dream that falcons will fall down and never will be existed anymore. I hate a such organization that have only money and they think they can buy everyone because of money. PSG/Manchester City of Counterstrike. I hope Niko will not join this shit and noone want to join them. And Zonic will forced to play with the team and finnaly there will be proper firepower.
2024-12-29 11:27
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#114
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Europe richwilde
Niko left G2 for this lmao
2024-12-29 11:27
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2 replies
I doubt he will. they're gonna have to find another star rifler.
2024-12-29 11:34
0
1 reply
the hopium around niko "actually not leaving" is insane
2024-12-29 11:59
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#116
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Canada minibeech
No wonder nertz is going to liquid. Team being gutted and leaving their star rifler behind in the dust. Both times now to fricking Falcons. They're just doing it to maintain ranking, again.
2024-12-29 11:30
0
1 reply
Poor nertz lol
2024-12-29 11:47
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#119
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
910 | 
France pheno71
Falcons didnt learn anything from the 2024 disaster? I hope for niko that he still has the possibility to not go in the zonic retirement club
2024-12-29 11:30
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#120
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Argentina Ademar
Expected
2024-12-29 11:32
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#121
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Twistzz | 
United States plsnopermaban
zonic in one year: "We knew from the beginning that this roster was temporary"
2024-12-29 11:32
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2 replies
lolololo
2024-12-29 11:38
0
True. If there‘s still a chance for NiKo to decline it would be now or grab the bags and play T2
2024-12-29 11:57
0
First they murdered ence now potential ence v2 im assuming degster to vp since heroic polar bear tweet so Kyxsan > Snappi Spinx = Spinx Sunpayus = Sunpayus Teses > Maden Sjuush > Dycha
2024-12-29 11:38
1
-TaZ +sAw pleaseeee
2024-12-29 11:36
3
Imagine heroic do snappi, dycha, spinx, sunpayus and maden
2024-12-29 11:36
1
Fuck man karrigan roper better
2024-12-29 11:42
0
I actually feel bad for heroic. Another great roster butchered by greed
2024-12-29 11:42
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#134
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Cyprus Komutan
a trio is leaving nertz who is their hard carry to join falcons, where did I see this before
2024-12-29 11:43
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2 replies
They‘re not leaving nertz, nertz is leaving as well (to liquid)
2024-12-29 11:56
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1 reply
#172
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Cyprus Komutan
nertz probably left because core is leaving
2024-12-29 12:03
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#135
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Russia Raum0
watch them flop even with this team
2024-12-29 11:45
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#136
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
KRIMZ | 
Poland deolic
I've seen it somewhere before.
2024-12-29 11:45
0
niko for nertz and magisk for shush doesn't seem like a direct upgrade but no sAw is really detrimental I don't really believe in zonic right now to justify this lineup for me
2024-12-29 11:47
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#145
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Canada minibeech
Can we get and HLTV award added for next year. Most hated Organization.
2024-12-29 11:51
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2 replies
Can literally flip a coin between failcons and asstralis
2024-12-29 11:55
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1 reply
#161
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Canada minibeech
only 2 finalists because no other teams come close. lol
2024-12-29 11:58
1
heroic again gonna rebuild and come back stronger than ever i know it i am familiar with their game
2024-12-29 11:51
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1 reply
Heroic busy Astralis core , Astralis disbands kewk
2024-12-29 12:23
1
this roster looks capable. What a shame
2024-12-29 11:54
0
Technically a better heroic with magisk > sjuush and Niko > nertz and both being able to take all the roles with minimal conflicts. This is interesting, but not really a super team.
2024-12-29 11:56
1
Back to heroic building new roster that can break into top 10 ztr sl3nd sjuush tauson yekindar
2024-12-29 11:57
0
4 replies
#220
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Greece her-1g
Heroic will probably build a danish roster with hooxi + sjuush they are just missing an awper an entry and a star
2024-12-29 13:26
0
3 replies
spinx and sunpayus maybe
2024-12-29 14:25
0
Good idea after tsm disbanded Hooxi Sjuush Zyphon Acor Tauson
2024-12-29 16:56
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1 reply
#302
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Greece her-1g
Thats a possible team to be honest and not bad at all
2024-12-29 23:08
0
who ever is scouting for falcons needs to be fired asap
2024-12-29 11:59
0
1 reply
the problem is that org is rizzless, no one wants wants to go to a big old oaf coach with no results to show in years, only interviews with "we knew this roster was temporary from the start"
2024-12-29 12:00
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Imagine being sjuush rn, last man standing in Heroic, knowing no one wanted to pick him up
2024-12-29 11:59
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3 replies
#171
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Asia Alamut
He is a decent player though
2024-12-29 12:01
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Anchor getting kicked left and right and now this, they need to respect anchors more
2024-12-29 12:22
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he is so underrated
2024-12-29 13:47
1
don't worry Heroic... keep sAw and sjuush, involve SunPayus in negotiations with Falcons, then: sjuush +SunPayus +HooXi +blameF +dupreeh already better than Astralis
2024-12-29 11:59
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1 reply
I actually kinda like this
2024-12-29 12:11
0
Career ruined for teses and degster. GG.
2024-12-29 11:59
0
Sjuush getting fucked over again. Pray for sjuush
2024-12-29 12:05
1
It is happening again
2024-12-29 12:07
1
Vitality buy sAw pretty please
2024-12-29 12:12
0
wow some how failcons keep dropping the ball even harder, pls Niko don't go
2024-12-29 12:19
1
degster when you can have a s1mple Zonic is a fraud
2024-12-29 12:19
0
2 replies
#219
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Greece her-1g
They want the core to get the free valve ranking invites mates
2024-12-29 13:24
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1 reply
Invites are worthless when you suck. Better to start at zero Zonic is a Fraud
2024-12-29 13:53
2
Looks like downgrade for Niko only, upgrade for rest.
2024-12-29 12:21
1
Nice superteam hahaha NiKo got jebaited
2024-12-29 12:22
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#185
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Russia I_D_R_C
rip HEROIC
2024-12-29 12:23
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#190
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Sweden Vrede
man... poor sjuush.. everyone is leaving him
2024-12-29 12:28
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Unexpected af
2024-12-29 12:36
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#194
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China RADNIKEY
Just buy FaZe at this point
2024-12-29 12:37
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#195
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Sweden multib
Heroic not catching a break wth 😅 just after finally crawling back from the last tear down of the team
2024-12-29 12:39
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1 reply
10 millions in 1 year is good they cant built and actual decent team from 0 not like falcons
2024-12-29 13:05
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Did Faze reject them or they have no money?
2024-12-29 12:45
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Well better than that tier5 roster that they wanted days ago Still bad Niko and magisk career is over + G2 will lose monesy for free
2024-12-29 13:04
0
This is incredibly funny. Every team try harding so much to have best possible roster for 2025. Falcons probably most. Spending insane amount of money. Just to be shit again. Menawhile Vitality roster looks best so far basically for free :D
2024-12-29 13:06
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2 replies
> Ropz getting new Ferrari > Free
2024-12-29 22:59
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+1 Vitality ropz is probably the best move, business-wise. Heavygod probably cost a lot and he is still unproven and was sometimes undisciplined. Buying a core is kinda stupid. Most of the time, the chemistry won't work with the other players. Faze elige is decent, but it is not a cheap move. Nertz has probably an insane buyout and liquid will still have problems with the leadership.
2024-12-30 03:04
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#211
Faceit level 8  | 
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Switzerland Husey13
wow now thats great
2024-12-29 13:07
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who did Heroic hurt to keep getting there roster robbed
2024-12-29 13:08
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Poor niko
2024-12-29 13:16
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saudis have literally all the money in the world and they target Heroic. of all teams, they target fucking heroic who made playoffs nobody knows how. thats the retard level.
2024-12-29 13:21
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1 reply
are u dumbb? Everyone refuse them so they take the left overd
2024-12-29 23:33
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#217
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Greece her-1g
Great on paper. Niko + magisk they are like one of the best players + one of the best anchors in the game. Kyx is a great igl imo and degster a pretty standard awper. Looks good but not on G2 level for sure
2024-12-29 13:23
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Niko Degster Teses Magisk Kyxsan This is a solid lineup.
2024-12-29 13:24
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2 replies
#221
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Brazil Lolove
not contenders on my view, though
2024-12-29 13:26
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1 reply
#225
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Ukraine garen
++ not better than what heroic was this year
2024-12-29 13:36
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bruh, another promising heroic lineup bites the dust2...
2024-12-29 13:27
2
Falcons continuing to try to steal cores and hope for instant success... honestly, above all, sucks for Heroic and sjuush in particular, he's getting screwed over again.
2024-12-29 13:28
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#227
Xyp9x | 
Asia NinX
Niko, Degester and Zonic in one team. This is not going to work.
2024-12-29 13:40
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#268
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Sweden multib
Degster niko might be amazing combo or absolute disaster 😅
2024-12-29 16:51
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1 reply
#276
Xyp9x | 
Asia NinX
I mean... Ya... But then you have Zonic who is an authoritarian. I wonder how that will work.
2024-12-29 17:24
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Falcons management is the worst in the world, they know nothing about cs scene
2024-12-29 13:58
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And GG, it was supposed to be an amazing lineup and it will be a total dud, not only did they destroy G2 which could have won something with Niko, but Niko can also forget about playing in top tournaments with such a lineup, but at least the guys will earn money
2024-12-29 14:09
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Yes please do the same thing again (buying a team core and fail). Falcons clownshow is pretty funny ngl.
2024-12-29 14:15
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Unexpected but good imo
2024-12-29 14:34
0
so, falcon will be: Niko Magisk Kyxsan Degster Teses? decent team, this roster surely not a significant upgrade from G2. at least Niko receives a substantial final paycheck before his retirement.
2024-12-29 14:39
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1 reply
this roster super mid its 3 times worse than G2
2024-12-30 03:50
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WHAT IS THIS DANISH NEPOTISM????
2024-12-29 14:52
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#243
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Denmark Danny D3
Why degster though? He sucks.
2024-12-29 14:58
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Falcon management plan : Try to buy players with infinite glitch money. Fail to do it twice. Steal a decent core who achieve something in the past. Make them worst, bench them. Hire another core who did something decent in the past Rince and repeat.
2024-12-29 15:14
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#250
Jee | 
Sweden 7emod
What about ewjerkz, NiKo, jambo and Magisk? And what will happen with Heroic then they disbanding or what?
2024-12-29 15:17
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#278
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United States PlankCS
Jambo and ewjerkz were just rumors. Niko and Magisk will be in their preferred roles. It's pretty simple.
2024-12-29 17:33
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#292
Jee | 
Sweden 7emod
Ok
2024-12-29 20:35
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FALCONS BRAINWASHED WITH MONEY WHAT ARE THESE ROSTERS? XD
2024-12-29 15:17
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#252
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland diefk
Zonic mid way through 2025: "We did not expect this lineup to win trophies, this was just a temporary solution. We're now signing Hooxi and Olofmeister."
2024-12-29 15:33
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i just confuse, why nobody wants sjuush????? he's the best anchor at least in 1.5 tier
2024-12-29 15:44
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3 replies
Falcons already has magisk
2024-12-29 15:45
0
1 reply
falcons tier 3, cant relate
2024-12-29 16:18
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because sjuush very inconsistent he sits 8/20 most of matches
2024-12-30 03:49
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Here we go again... Ence and heroic are making good profit from falcons though. Heroic neqrly bankrupt ~2 years ago and then sold of Cadian, and jabbi stavn for 2mil. Now they will prbly sell this trio for at least 2 mil.
2024-12-29 15:45
1
rip Heroic yet again
2024-12-29 15:48
0
Lol RIP HEROIC
2024-12-29 16:17
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#265
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India Faze0089
Wtf? Out of the cores they could have signed they sign heroic? They could have signed the mouz core or they could have signed the faze core. Falcons look mid
2024-12-29 16:20
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#277
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United States PlankCS
Are you so naive that you think they wouldn't try??? I can guarantee you they talked to every org in tier 1 about buying their rosters outright. This is a business, but that doesn't mean money can get you everything. It's still better as a brand to be competitive and get a bigger following than to have a bunch of money that will just be gone in a few years. It's unsustainable for any org that isn't a shitter org to sell their competitive roster.
2024-12-29 17:28
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read the fucking article. they tried to get mouz and faze trio but they didnt want to leave
2024-12-29 23:32
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Degster isnt worth it unless falcons got a reduced price for chosing all 3
2024-12-29 16:48
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i will enjoy watching them fail (again)
2024-12-29 17:15
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Feel bad for sjuush but unfortunately he can't replace magisk in falcons. Why take degster though? Just bring back sunpayus, he'd be 100 times better.
2024-12-29 17:54
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#306
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Other KittyVN
i agree degster isnt bad but for falcons wish to be a top contender he isnt really good enough.
2024-12-29 23:38
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b1ade confirmed goat coach zonic refuses to play without established successful core
2024-12-29 17:57
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With sources Falcons will sign 10 man roster
2024-12-29 18:10
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#282
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Hungary ShadYyBoy
look at yourself Niko, what did you do...
2024-12-29 18:27
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This would make more sense than the ewjerkz and jambo signings.
2024-12-29 18:39
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to be honest degster is kinda mid rather put SunPayus there ....
2024-12-29 18:48
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both are pretty mid nowadays
2024-12-29 18:53
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degster do NOT join this team you will not last more than a year
2024-12-29 19:38
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Zonic = fraud
2024-12-29 19:45
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he has managed to fly under the radar thus far because he has hair.
2024-12-29 21:23
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#289
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Poland Jevilek
Heroic again bruh R.I.P Niko too Ropz's move begun a rostermania
2024-12-29 20:00
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Falcons lowkey feel like they are bad for the overall cs scene
2024-12-29 20:03
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On the picture they already knew it was coming
2024-12-29 20:52
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Another danish trash Omega LUL arabs are dumb af
2024-12-29 22:09
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They are literally asking to be the corp villain of CS. No culture, no academy work, just pure sportswashing money. They are not only one, but for sure the most high profile in cs
2024-12-29 22:39
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NiKofiesta
2024-12-30 02:54
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at this point Falcons just trying to sign literally anyone lmao this roster are super weird anyways
2024-12-30 03:46
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#314
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Ukraine melyakyiv
Degster clown
2024-12-30 03:56
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#317
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United States caliprep
falcons got this!!!!! WAR FALCONS!
2024-12-30 07:26
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whole room gonna be silent when niko and degster rage
2024-12-30 07:56
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#329
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Twistzz | 
Sweden DiTzZ
I feel like Falcons will never get a real team.. just signing random players at this point.
2024-12-30 13:30
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I firmly believe this decision undermines the potential of both squads and their players. Without the right support and development, neither team will reach the level needed to contend for a top-five position.
2024-12-30 16:20
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#331
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Brollan | 
Sweden EntonXD
I’d get sjuush, kyxsan and degster. Sjuush is your xyp9x
2024-12-30 18:11
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Falcons gonna try to contact to anyone for fame obviously
2024-12-31 03:43
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#334
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United States DarkFX
This is hilarious. In before Falcons implode and leave CS altogether.
2024-12-31 16:28
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