sycrone: "A decision like this is never sudden"

MOUZ's coach explains the team's shocking decision to replace siuhy following the first event of the season.

sycrone denies the notion that siuhy's benching was made in a rush

Just when it looked like the transfer season was over, MOUZ pulled the rug from under the whole community when, after just one loss into the new season at BLAST Bounty, the organization announced the decision to bench Kamil "⁠siuhy⁠" Szkaradek.

The move was made all the more surprising when it was also revealed that Ludvig "⁠Brollan⁠" Brolin would be taking up captaincy for the first time in his career, and that the team's permanent replacement for siuhy, Lotan "⁠Spinx⁠" Giladi, would not be able to play at IEM Katowice due to a roster lock.

Instead, the team traveled to one of the biggest events of the season with a stand-in, academy prospect Adrian "⁠xelex⁠" Vincze, prompting many in the community to wonder just how badly things must have gone in the MOUZ camp.

In an interview with HLTV, MOUZ's coach, sycrone, denies the idea that the move came down to personal issues or that it was made in a rush.

"A decision like this is never sudden," the Dane says. "Throughout last year and all the time we worked with Kamil, there were differences in the vision. I heard some rumors in the community that, personally, we were upset with him, or that there's something around this area, but that was never the case."

He delves further into the decision-making process behind the shock change in the interview, which you can find in full below:

If you can't see the embed above, you can listen to the audio recording of this interview on Soundcloud.

Talk me through this whole situation, this process where during the off-season you decide on no changes despite there being some issues last year, and then suddenly things change after the first event of the year.

I understand that the timeline looks a little bit questionable, and for sure it is, also in hindsight something we could have done over the break. At that time we were very occupied with making sure we could keep Jimi on a good contract, also to give the break a little bit of time and see how it would play out in the next season.

To touch on Jimi there, did you see a possibility that you might have to replace him?

It definitely was a possibility. I would hope it wasn't and I'm happy we managed to keep him on a contract.

So tell me about how it goes from finishing Bounty so early and making the decision after the fact. What happens in that time that makes you realize so suddenly that this is not going to work?

First of all, a decision like this is never sudden. Throughout last year and all the time we worked with Kamil, at times there were differences, also in the vision. I heard some rumors in the community that, personally, we were upset with him, or that there's something around this area, but that was never the case. We came out of it in a good way. The boys grew up with each other, right, and always had a good time.

Maybe just at times we didn't fully get along professionally, and I think this is where it came into play. After three weeks off and coming back at the start of the season, we could feel that we're going into a tough time here, and maybe it's better for both parties, even if it is a rough time, to part ways now.

But you're coming into one of the biggest tournaments of the season and you make this decision, not only to put a new guy in the in-game leader position who has never done it before but also come in with a stand-in. Why not make the decision to just play out Katowice and then to move on?

There's never a good timing for these things. There are roster locks for other tournaments, and if things aren't going great already — you saw the BetBoom game —, we could try to work through it again and see how good of an event we could have in Katowice, or we could just make the decision and move forwards.

How do you then go to decide Brollan is going become an in-game leader as someone who's never been in this position before? What made you confident that that was the move forward?

Actually, Ludvig stepped forward and said he would like to take on the challenge. I think he has some qualities that a good leader would have — or a good tactical leader, I would say. He watches a lot of games, he really enjoys preparing, and in a lot of his career was quite a playmaker and he enjoys that part of the game. I would say he's also a bit unselfish at times. I think these are good qualities to have in a player and also in a tactician.

In terms of communication and leadership is where he has some shortcomings, and this is stuff we'll have to work on. But I think he has a pretty good starting point and he's very eager to learn.

Brollan took up captaincy for the first time in his career in the aftermath of siuhy's departure

Did you already discuss this option beforehand in that process where you weren't sure whether this was going to be the lineup, or did this happen only at a point where you realized it wasn't going to be the lineup?

In my position as a coach, you always have to consider what the roster would look like and what the possibilities are. Since the Kamil decision wasn't just overnight, I was considering, if we at some point had to make a change, what could we do there?

Was Spinx someone, again, that you had in mind, potentially in that Jimi conversation, where it would have been a good replacement for him as well?

Spinx, for a long time it was publicly known that things weren't that great in Vitality. He also had reached out to us a few times, I think he also did to other teams, just to test the waters, what it would be like for him if he joined a team like that.

At least in MOUZ we imagine ourselves in a position now where it's not just about if we can keep players but also attract top players and make it very exciting for them to be here, not just in terms of the setup but also the structure we can offer, also contracts and stuff.

What do you think are going to be the steps that are going to make it possible to reach the level you were at in the second part of the season? Do you feel that there's going to be a bit of a transitional period?

Looking at the timeline, of course we're at Katowice and we have a stand-in, we're gonna bring Spinx in and bootcamp here going into PGL so that we have a little bit of playing time.

It will be a transitional period. If you saw our games today, you also see some players playing new positions and having different responsibilites, and this will take time, not just the leadership change. It's one step back now, but I'm sure we're gonna take two steps forward in the future. We always have, we always will.

Once Spinx does come in, he's going to be the one who's going to be taking over Brollan's former positions and Brollan slot more into what we would have expected from siuhy?

I think you'll have to wait and see when we play.

What do you think could be the upside of this change down the line? Do you think that this lineup could reach higher than the previous?

I think it could. We obviously had a great year with Kamil and reached new peaks for everyone on the team. The steps to get there is slowly working on it. What it gives us in the short term is a new look on things, a new perspective, things are a little bit exciting again. We've created some forwards momentum.

Sometimes, when you're with a group for a long time, it's not just that you get tired of each other, but maybe you need some fresh perspective, you need some input. I think a guy like Spinx, who had a lot of playtime on top teams, comes in with a different view on how to do things. He's been on that stage, he's won at Cologne and also at a Major, so I'm hoping he brings some of that to the server.

Sweden Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1357
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.67
Poland Kamil 'siuhy' Szkaradek
Kamil 'siuhy' Szkaradek
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
927
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.69
Hungary Adrian 'xelex' Vincze
Adrian 'xelex' Vincze
Age:
16
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.71
Maps played:
7
KPR:
0.50
DPR:
0.72
Israel Lotan 'Spinx' Giladi
Lotan 'Spinx' Giladi
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
789
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.64
#1
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interesting
2025-02-01 22:18
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Classic " yeah we wanted a fresh perspective " . . . Admits Brollan is no leader of the team but obviously has to believe he ' ll do better than someone who he himself developed from Mouz NXT . Maybe that ' s why siuhy didn ' t make the cut in the first place to main roster , but after seeing paris results they just had to get him back ? If sycrone wants his vision to be played out , why doesn ' t he play in the server , instead of forcing it on others , now with brollan he can shape mouz ' s downfall . With half a year and three months after the player break worth of excuses , we wait to see , if something ever happens . Regards
2025-02-01 22:46
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i can't read this because why do you put a space before every single punctuation?
2025-02-01 23:17
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#55
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French speakers leave a space before certain punctuation (espace insécable), though it doesn't apply to commas or apostrophes. Looking at this guy's comment history, one could see that he's not really being consistent at it, which personally leads me to believe he's either an idiot or he's trolling, though both may be true at the same time.
2025-02-02 00:35
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Nah, the guy is typing on his phone. I'm a French speaker and we use the same punctuation. The "espace insécable" like you said is the space between numbers or other stuffs like that.
2025-02-02 01:41
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Neither iOS or Android makes a space before a punctuation unless you deliberately do it. So that makes no sense
2025-02-02 10:37
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#112
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United States Virgin Islands ProfNori
Im a french speaker and never in my life has anybody knowledgable put space before or after apostrophes
2025-02-02 12:40
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me either, it is weird. That's why I am thinking it is when you are lazy typing on your phone.
2025-02-02 15:35
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#135
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United States Virgin Islands ProfNori
no, it doesnt happen on phone, actually phones usually correct it themselves
2025-02-02 16:46
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#88
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Romania bNr2005
adhd surelly
2025-02-02 09:08
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#33
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Finland eesau
Sad for Jimi tbh, hope this doesnt affect his career trajectory too much. It's obvious that there are no strong voices or a strong leader in this roster anymore and mouz will definitely struggle to stay in top20 until the next roster change. Now you have a rookie igl with no leadership qualities.
2025-02-01 23:13
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Honduras tIdr
mouz in shambles
2025-02-01 22:18
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mikka "firepower" sunny, welcome back!
2025-02-01 22:19
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please never compare sp0nx to sunny ever again
2025-02-01 22:21
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sunny > sp0nx
2025-02-01 22:35
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A classic
2025-02-02 11:21
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That's actually crazy
2025-02-01 22:19
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United States ddown
brollan GOAT igl, ez 13-16th place <3
2025-02-01 22:20
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They are playing with a academy team 0,6 rating player. At least let them try the real roster
2025-02-02 10:39
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real roster like siuhy brollan jimi xertion torzsi?
2025-02-02 11:09
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The real new roster, with Spinx
2025-02-02 14:30
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"Maybe just at times we didn't fully get along professionally, and I think this is where it came into play" So siuhy was right
2025-02-01 22:20
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About what?
2025-02-01 22:29
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His vision for the future of the team was better than what other voices within the team had to offer. Y'know, since they got shitted on by a no-name GamerLegion squad that has been together for less than a month.
2025-02-01 22:36
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what does the GL match have to do with this? and mouz had to play with a guy who has zero tier 1 and like 3 matches of tier 3 experience lmao
2025-02-02 00:24
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The GL team is old Sangal with two good players added. So don’t make up bs. While rookie IGL is playing with a academy team 0.6 rating bot.
2025-02-02 10:42
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Slovakia GloryMole
GL is not old Sangal wdym?
2025-02-02 11:01
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My bad, I mixed up teams
2025-02-02 14:31
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+1 it's okay mens
2025-02-03 10:31
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that's Heroic lil bro
2025-02-02 11:15
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Yeah I mixed up teams.
2025-02-02 14:31
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Hungary ArcadeX
Wishing the worst for mouz
2025-02-01 22:20
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you should change your flair to sl3nd, he outperformed torzsi in their game today
2025-02-01 22:37
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torzsi 87,1 ADR sl3nd 86,2 ADR practically performed identical
2025-02-01 23:15
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torzsi 1.17 rating sl3nd 1.31 rating (+0.14) We both know you cherrypicked ADR instead of Rating 2.1 which includes ADR among many other stats.
2025-02-01 23:25
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not exactly, ADR is sth a player is close to 100% self-responsable other factors, like kills/death/trades and so on gets effected by ur team aswell.
2025-02-01 23:28
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no shit, it's a team game mr. einstein
2025-02-01 23:29
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so u understand the difference in the end, thats good
2025-02-02 00:09
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#66
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ADR is literally the most unindicative stat for AWP players. In rounds with AWP it takes the same effort to kill anyone from 30 to 100 hp (if less than pulling out the pistol should be fine), which potentially makes three times difference in ADR for the same plays. >ADR is sth a player is close to 100% self-responsable It's basically untrue for AWPers, again, in average situation there's no change for multikill with AWP, so it's like a part of your ADR anywhere between 10 to 50% is your own openings and the other part is at what hp your team leaves you frags and again, it builds up to three times possible difference in ADR. Respectfully.
2025-02-02 03:26
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u perfectly described why it doesnt make sense to compare awp to rifler, even tho ur examples with multikills are like 1% of all awp kills, so complete outliers. that doesnt change tho if u compare awp to awp. ofc 1 game is no proper sample size, but if u do it for 20, 50, 100 maps, it is.
2025-02-02 13:19
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#121
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But you're using ADR in 1 game as a indicator to say "it's the same performance level" and still saying "1 game is not proper sample size" And as I said before, the most reasonable way to gain ADR with AWP is to kill 100 hp enemies and it EXACTLY depends on how your team plays. For example, in NiP r1nkle gets all the opportunities to make openers - gets runboosted, goes to aggressive close holds with a guy behind him etc etc. Same goes for ultimate often. In all other occasions it depends on how good your riflers are - if they got killed with only 26 in 1 in response, you will get 74 dmg for every kill, otherwise you will get no kills at all or 5-20 dmg kills which STILL MAKES NO SENSE for comparing AWP players by ADR. HLTV rating includes open frags without being traded which is the most important play for AWPer - not to whiff his holding shot and to retreat, and the delta of rating in this game is quite big, even 0.05 more rating is means that you're impacting noticeably more, we don't even need to talk about 0.1+ difference. Regards.
2025-02-02 14:46
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#82
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Finland KarPPa
didnt even bother to respond to your bullshit claims being debunked? :D
2025-02-02 05:13
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ADR is wonky for awpers
2025-02-02 14:44
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there were differences in the vision. So u decided to kick out best IGL on the scene. There must be real reason instead of diffrent visions
2025-02-01 22:21
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the best*** more like one of the best. Mouz has a choking problem. They were losing left and right. It wasn't all his fault, but stop a bit the glazing. Sycrone is well known to be control freak.
2025-02-02 00:08
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#92
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France pheno71
When you think about it, siuhy had great results with ash and sycrone as a coach, which are highly praised when it comes to cs knowledge and building a squad. So if Sycrone with brollan manage to establish a gamestyle somewhat close to what mouz had with siuhy, the upgrade of -siuhy +spinx can be deadly.
2025-02-02 10:26
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best choker after choko… Best igl is everyone's daddy Aleksib, if we are gonna keep it 100
2025-02-02 11:23
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hooxi will join this team
2025-02-01 22:24
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enjoying this mouz downfall
2025-02-01 22:25
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Europe Jezynt
Please Jimmy leave that shithole asap, you carried torshit for long enough
2025-02-01 22:25
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at least they could bench him when the rostermania was happening, so he could join somewhere else
2025-02-01 22:27
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How mouz went from insane to shithole team. Sad. Kick the guys out of mouz who wanted IGL out.
2025-02-01 22:29
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"I understand that the timeline looks a little bit questionable, and for sure it is, also in hindsight something we could have done over the break." Wise words, I'm sure they have enough staff to both negotiate with Jimi and not fuck this roster change up so massively. Please #FreeJimi from these amateurs and the disaster that will be IGL Brollan. I think it's hilarious but not surprising that Brollan is the IGL because he asked to, not because someone actually thought it was a good idea. He really wants to dig his career back in to the NIP era hole.
2025-02-01 22:32
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how do you free jimi when he's the one who handcuffed himself and threw away the key
2025-02-02 04:50
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its only for a year but I think sycrone made jimi false promises to keep him on contract
2025-02-02 10:01
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You really think they made it clear in the negotiations that he would be playing under the leadership of brollan and beside sponx? Dont think so.
2025-02-02 11:53
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I hope this useless org quits cs finally together with Heroic and OG
2025-02-01 22:32
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enjoy tier2 buddies
2025-02-01 22:37
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#29
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this is doing more bad rather than good
2025-02-01 22:47
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If it was planned in advance and wasn't sudden, why couldn't it be done during Rostermania or after Katowice lol
2025-02-01 22:48
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So he says that it wasn't sudden and then contradicts himself. If it wasn't sudden, why did you play Bounty with him after all the roster locks? Like cmon.
2025-02-01 22:59
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Tbf, even I hate Sycrone, I understand what he meant. The team was on turmoil, they were thinking of changing him, but they continue a bit. They thought the player break will help to calm the situation, but it didn't. So, they decided to change after all. but I don't like the decision #48.
2025-02-02 00:15
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A bad decision is a bad decision.
2025-02-01 23:05
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clown team
2025-02-01 23:13
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Poland rotfiend
another ENCE aleksiB situation
2025-02-01 23:39
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#43
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Poland Manona
in 3 months they will be accepting cct invites
2025-02-01 23:48
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Sycrone always say that. He said similar things when they kicked JDC, nbk and bymas. He probably thinks he is igling the team, like blad3. Both are really good coaches, but you're not in the server anymore. So, even if you're important, the igl of your team is even more important. Brollan looks like somebody who was forced to igl. A super great plan in perspective.
2025-02-02 00:16
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Also, he always remove his player at the worst possible time. Nbk, bymas and now siuhy. All of them were on the bench, just few months before the major and cannot play it.
2025-02-02 00:23
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Mouz will get sent straight to the trick dimension every tournament. Fuck this team bruh
2025-02-02 00:15
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Poland mattyyyk
Bullshit, wtf is Sycrone talking about?
2025-02-02 00:18
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sycrone has to be the worst decision taker ever, he should stick to strats and let upper management do their thing
2025-02-02 04:25
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Can't pass without mentioning the nbk and bymas situation. Getting flashbacks of mismanagement, even though last couple of years things were going good and the team they put is pretty decent.
2025-02-02 00:33
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Pretty decent is an euphemism. Sycrone is an ass*ole. He dropped NBK and bymas, just before the major, but mouz, until very recently was more than "pretty decent". Also, the kicks of NBK and bymas were not mismanagement, it was more unethical move towards the players. Both deserved to be replaced. Bymas and NBK are now playing in t5 teams.
2025-02-02 03:53
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Bymas and NBK are free agents now, no?
2025-02-02 08:13
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Yeah or they play for a tier 5 mix in hope to qualify for the major (itb, revenants, etc.)
2025-02-02 15:37
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yeah maybe unethical is a better selection of words. Yeah players can be bad, but they way things are handled doesn't justify bein a piece of shit org, so my point stands still. It's noisy when things like this happen and worse when they do this interviews.
2025-02-02 19:38
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Thats a crazy sudden decision if ive ever seen one. And why lie about it too. just weird "Once Spinx does come in, he's going to be the one who's going to be taking over Brollan's former positions and Brollan slot more into what we would have expected from siuhy?" -"I think you'll have to wait and see when we play."- so they have no clue yet, but still not sudden at all lmao
2025-02-02 00:40
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Or it just means that they don’t want to give away exactly how they will play? Why are all these self proclaimed experts so pessimistic and interpret anything in the worst possible way
2025-02-02 10:44
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Canada minibeech
If it wasn't a sudden decision then why didn't you do it before the season started? He then wouldve had a chance to be picked up by someone. Now he's plagued to the bench for half a season. Seems like obvious BS to me.
2025-02-02 00:40
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So without the political BS let me sum it up- I basically didn’t get along with siuhy and we fought a lot. In betboom we got into such a huge argument that I had to remove him because I finally found enough justification to get rid of him otherwise I would lose control of the team since the biggest doubter just got unlucky and choked again. Siuhy had a vision to get better players because he is tired of waiting, but I think our players are good enough and we should not replace since our budget isn’t big enough and u guys still got few years left until u fully bloom.
2025-02-02 01:04
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I do agree with your logic, I really think sycrone and him had a huge "fight", but I think people act like siuhy is incapable of bad decision and he is the best IGL ever. If they sign Spinx, maybe, siuhy didn't want that player. It is a bad decision to remove your igl and replace him with a rookie, but we don't know what went wrong. So, instead of assuming he wanted to drop the whole roster and sycrone didn't want to, let's keep it cool. At first, people said that he was loyal to Brolan and that's why he got cut. Yeah, right.
2025-02-02 03:49
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I don’t think sycrone nor siuhy is the bad person. it’s truly like they said, just different vision neither are wrong or right. Both ideas makes sense.
2025-02-02 10:05
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#59
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Australia kTw0
Such bullshit haha - does he really think people will buy this?
2025-02-02 01:11
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Siuhy will be selected to the team more worthy of trophies
2025-02-02 01:26
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KappaClaus DELUXE I must say
2025-02-02 01:29
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Czech Republic PaYaB
we'll never know the full story, but the changes on paper look terrible
2025-02-02 01:42
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Fantic, its time
2025-02-02 02:07
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I've been an avid MOUZ supporter for 11 years but I feel like this is the straw that breaks my back. Gonna shelve my fandom until they can earn back my trust and just focus on the shit hole of NA CS.
2025-02-02 02:31
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praying for their downfall
2025-02-02 03:30
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I'll give it 6 to 9 months until MOUZ sells it's main players and brings on a new patch of NXT players
2025-02-02 03:35
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Poland YummyCS
I have a gut feeling that Siuhy will be back in MOUZ with a new Coach
2025-02-02 04:03
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Rip mouz and their reputation
2025-02-02 04:03
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Seems to me like Brollan stepped up to IGL because the alternative was that he'd be kicked alongside Siuhy as they'd bring in Spinx + an IGL.
2025-02-02 04:04
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but why wouldn't they just bench Brollan in that case? siuhy only IGL in the world that could have made that roster win tournaments, hopefully they never win again.
2025-02-02 04:21
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My prediction: mouz told siuhy to kick someone for spinx, he said no so mouz benched him.
2025-02-02 08:37
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Sycrone biggest snake in history of CS with all of the people he's randomly kicked and he gets away with it, imagine if this was NiKo.
2025-02-02 04:19
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He's clearly talking out of his ass here "There's never a good timing for these things." Yeah there is actually, during the player break like everyone else. And if there's not a good time for an IGL move, there certainly IS a bad time for it. He's trying to make it sound like this was 'part of the plan' somehow despite it obviously being a snap decision.
2025-02-02 04:47
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To be honest, Torzsi is a better igl than Brollan, this guy has no emotion at all. He just sits there with a sullen face and starts fighting. His expression doesn't change whether he wins or loses.
2025-02-02 04:54
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They did not get along. Simple as that. You don't need more than 3 braincells to understand this.
2025-02-02 05:10
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Fair enough, but why not bench him after the major then and not so close to roster lock
2025-02-02 05:47
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If its not sudden you wouldnt have to use xelex
2025-02-02 06:16
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Pointless interview, no merit at all.
2025-02-02 10:22
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> two official matches aside kato > ~0.70 rating > "academy prospect"
2025-02-02 11:03
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you keep siuhy to cheat jimi sign the contract then kick siuhy out?
2025-02-02 11:12
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Poland xRashu
Mouz should consider a coach change to somebody with more experience on the scene cuz since 3 years a team with such potential did not achieve too much.
2025-02-02 12:07
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Mouz never had the pressure to win something and that is good cuz otherwise players like Niko ropz or Frozen wouldn't have a chance there
2025-02-02 12:17
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#109
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Poland xRashu
You don't need the pressure of winning something to build a better team. What I meant is that it's not always the players' fault when they lose in crucial moments.
2025-02-02 12:25
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But the coach?? A guy that proved himself over the years is the problem? ahja
2025-02-02 12:32
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#111
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Poland xRashu
How did he prove himself?
2025-02-02 12:43
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worked with several lineups brought many young players to a tier 1 level won some tournaments and the org permitted him to decide on its own.
2025-02-02 13:08
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Poland xRashu
So you basically admit that if they're winning, it's also the coach's win, but when they lose, it's only about the players? I'm not denying that he played a role in promoting talents, but for some time now, something's not working in MOUZ, and I suggest that it might not be solely the players' fault.
2025-02-03 11:33
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lol nobody is buying this :D
2025-02-02 13:02
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It pretty clear to see that there where personal reasons, and Sycrone as the professional that he is won't shit on Siuhy in an interview, which is good. Personally, I alsways had an inkling, the Siuhy was a bit of an asshole and pretty self-absorbed as a person. To be fair to him: He never gave any evidence for that, in the way he behaved in the interviews and from what I've seen on camera. So I might be totally wrong about that, because I have no idea how he actually behaves behind the scenes. Still, I always felt this kinda way about him. Can't really explain why. So in a way it doesn't surprise me at all, that they are parting ways now. Plus I would love for Siuhy to find a propper team, like FaZe, G2, or Vitality, that is deserving of he IGL talents. He is an awesome IGL and should be rewarded with at least one major trophy in his career as far as I'm concerned. People talk about Donk as a generational talent, which is obviously fair. But when it comes to ingame leading: That's Siuhy for me. Every team he touches gets better. This is a pretty hard blow for Mouz and not going to be easy to recover from this. But I'm sure they will, even though it might take some time. As Sycrone said: "We always have, we always will." And he wasn't lying.
2025-02-02 13:50
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>Sycrone as the professional that he is won't shit on Siuhy in an interview, which is good. except he isn't professional enough to admit that siuhy is a top 3 IGL in the world and whatever """vision""" sycrone thinks he has isn't going to make up for downgrading from top 3 IGL to *literally not an IGL at all*. I mean if he had a deal lined up to get karrigan back from Faze this year or something maybe this move could be excused. but chances are there is no such move and mouz just let the coach implode the team. I feel so bad for jimi. >Personally, I alsways had an inkling, the Siuhy was a bit of an asshole and pretty self-absorbed as a person. I actually feel the same way but SO WHAT? aleksib, cadian, gla1ve, most top IGLs give off some of these vibes, especially when they're younger. it's normal. a natural leader will be a bit abrasive, stubborn etc. you're not gonna take a good little system player puppy like brollan and turn him into a leader so what is this move? this is going to set brollan back as well so it's messing with the careers of not just siuhy but also jimi (who trusted sycrone to run a decent team in 2025) AND brollan (who will never be an IGL so don't torture him like this).
2025-02-02 15:10
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Did you ever take into consideration, that it might actually have been Siuhy who wasn't willing to play with the others anymore because of (probably understandable) frustration? What was Sycrone supposed to do then? I would have done the same thing. You can't kick the whole team and just keep the IGL. You just let your IGL go and let him find some greener pastures. He doesn't have to admit that Shiuhy is a top 3 IGL, everybody whith a brain knows that. He is going to find a place in a proper team in no time. Sycrone isn't worried about Siuhys future, he is worried about Mouz, as he should be. And don't give me this Vision bullshit. Everbody knows that "different Visions for the team" is just a placeholder for internal personal problems.
2025-02-02 15:19
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>it might actually have been Siuhy who wasn't willing to play with the others anymore because of (probably understandable) frustration and then what? in this hypothetical scenario, what would siuhy have said? "bench me, I refuse to play with [insert name here]?" it was obviously not about the other players. think about it. if any of the other players didn't follow orders the coach and siuhy would be in agreement and those other players would be booted. no, if the IGL gets booted there's really only two reasons: - the coach wants a different IGL (ding ding ding) - a starplayer with more power than the IGL wants a different IGL (which player on mouz has more negotiating power than siuhy??)
2025-02-02 15:42
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So first of all, Siuhy and Sycrone have been working together for a long time now. He was their coach in Mouz NXT and they where very successful then, as everybody knows. He was the one who brough Siuhy back from GL when they formed their new Mouz roster out of the academy players and they have been working together pretty successfully since then as well. So obviously they share the same "VISION", whatever that vision is supposed to be anways. I mean what kind of vision could any of them have? Win as much tournaments + major trophy as possible? Yeah well, I don't think anyone of the two would object to that vision. It's farily obviously to me that Siuhy got frustrated with the rest of the of the team and the team probably felt the same way about him. I believe he got to a point where he believed he deserved a better team. And even though I'm a Mouz fan for 20 years now...I would say he would be right about that. He does deserve a better team. So yeah it obviously WAS about the other players. What do you think bro? Sycrone has been managing this Mouz & NXT team for a long time now and if he's shown anything, then that he has a really good hand for talent and good roster moves. And you are telling me that all of a sudden he just forgot how to do his job and got completely brainless? And then... let's say you are right.. and the players actually where in agreement with each other and wanted to keep playing together? You really think their voice has no value in the org? If that was the case, we would have seen a new coach and not a new IGL. There was disagreement between the players 100% and Siuhy wanted out. That's the way I read the situation. And he's also better off as far as I'm concerned. As I said: He's going to find a proper team. Mouz has a problem now and a big one.
2025-02-02 16:28
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it's hard to believe the scenario you're painting would lead to a benching after a player break. the timing is so bizarre I just cannot accept this narrative of a slow boiling conflict among players. and again, if things were good between sycrone and siuhy then it wouldn't be siuhy getting benched. I don't see how you dismantled that argument anywhere. siuhy is mouz' most valuable player next to jimi. I pretty much offered you the lay up: say jimi is the reason siuhy has to leave and your theory starts to make sense. I could see mouz choosing jimi (with the support of other players) over siuhy. they would be stupid to do so - better to sell jimi and whoever else and keep siuhy. but I could see them do it. but anything less than that and I can't see it.
2025-02-02 19:56
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In my opinion in a case like that it's always the player that's causing the issue, who has to go. If player Y doesn't want to play with player X , but player X is fine with playing with player Y. Then player Y has to go. That's how I would handle a situation like this. If you don't act like this, you basically give your IGL a free card to extortion, everytime he want's another player. "You have to replace player ____ or I go." Bro, doesn't matter if I like you or if we share the same vision or if you are the best IGL in the world or if I was your best man on your wedding. If this is the stance you are taking, you gonna be benched.
2025-02-02 20:32
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So siuhy wanted someone specific out of the team? Okay, say whom.
2025-02-02 20:48
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That's not what I was saying. I'm saying it doesn't matter if it was someone specific or multiple players he had a problem with. But I'm sure he had a problem with at least one player, but probably more. I think he didn't get the offers he wanted, in the player break and got frustrated when he had to return to the team. That's the most sensical explanation in my book. But if you want me to pick a player, Shuiy hypothetically might have a problem with... alright: 1. Xertion - Good player, but not good enough for his potential. Lost Mouz quite a few very important rounds. + One of the reasons they where under the Stage-Team curse 2. Torszi - Got a lot better and was pulling his weight, but seems to have reached his ceiling. Also he doesn't strike me as a guy with the best work ethic tbh. 3. Brollan - Very good pickup, great role player. Got lost in a map every once in a while, but overall no reason to hate on him or his performance 4. Jimmy - Let's bet real, there is no way Siuhy wanted Jimmy out of the team. In that order.
2025-02-02 21:09
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bro didn't even win coach of the year and just being nominated blew up his ego so much he crashed out and kicked the IGL to replace him with a puppet. sycrone's career is now over. siuhy's next team will beat mouz consistently just like aleksib always beat his former teams.
2025-02-02 15:01
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Yeah, because you have to be coach of the year, to be able to make hard decisions for the team lmao.
2025-02-02 15:09
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you have to THINK you're coach of the year to kick siuhy.
2025-02-02 15:11
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Poland Kilerosp
the situation with replacement siuhy just before iem katowice is the biggest split on siuhy and the polish fans hope they will get kicked in first 2 matches and hope the team get disband
2025-02-02 15:41
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lmao
2025-02-02 16:04
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just admit it was a bad move
2025-02-02 19:39
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#143
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Poland SebL
I think it's not surprising that MOUZ is making changes, I think everyone agrees that they needed chanes, and should've done it in the off-season, it's who they're benching being the most surprising fact, I think siuhy is a really good IGL, and if I were to guess, if MOUZ is making changes, the 2 players I was sure they should keep were siuhy and Jimpphat, I'm really insanely surprised by this move tbh. Also they're saying that it's not a rushed decision, but they did that not in the break, but after being upset in an online match against BetBoom, I really do feel like they rushed this and I'm really struggling to see them being better with this lineup that the previous one. I'd expect this move to work as in Brollan takes siuhys spots more and Spinx slots into Brollans, and I can imagine Spinx doing a much better job than Brollan as this sort of star rifler, but there's no way Brollan will be a better caller than siuhy was. I'm really surprised by all this stuff and I doubt MOUZ will be a trophy contender moving forward, really weird situation.
2025-02-02 21:15
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'we just didn't get along' my brother in Christ you literally bench your own IGL right before Kato, it can't be just 'we didn't get along' stop lying
2025-02-03 21:16
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Interesting
2025-02-09 02:22
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