flameZ: "I wanna beat donk in a grand final"

Vitality's opener wants to see ZywOo and donk face off in a rematch.

Vitality ended a six-year curse in Katowice after beating The MongolZ 2-0 in the semi-finals, winning a playoff match in Spodek for the first time to set up a best-of-five title challenge against reigning champions Spirit.

Date Matches
IEM Katowice 2025
09/02/2025
17:00
Match

It'll be the first time Vitality takes on Spirit with a full-strength roster since BLAST Spring Final in June last year, and their first shot at a title with Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool.

"It would be really nice to play a grand final against Spirit," Shahar "⁠flameZ⁠" Shushan told HLTV in an interview conducted before Spirit's win over Natus Vincere. "The last time we played them I think we had JACKZ [as a stand-in] and we got bullied by them."

It was the first time in the Polish arena for flameZ, who has been in excellent form in Katowice and is Vitality's second-highest-rated player (1.24) after Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut (1.35).

The Israeli rifler joked about bouncing back from his slow start to the year in BLAST Bounty, saying he "is not an onliner," and added that while he is still adjusting to a few new roles after ropz's arrival, the Estonian makes the transition much easier.

"It's quite easy to adapt to a new position when the guy who takes the other position communicates what he's gonna do, he has a lot of aggressive plays, you can play a lot on him and not just on yourself," flameZ says. "He fills those roles quite easily for the other people."

flameZ, straight to the grand final after a pretty one-sided game against The MongolZ. It seems like it's a comfortable matchup for you guys.

Yeah, I think they play very duelly, sort of like FaZe, they take a lot of duels and we like to play against this style. One more thing is that our prep was really good for this one and we're really comfortable with the maps and everything, so it was mainly the prep that made us feel really confident coming in, and also we have the confidence that we are the better team, the more experienced team, and we just need to show up.

Stage games feel different, my first time in Spodek so a lot of excitement regarding that, so we also get hyped, so it's really easy to do that.

You especially get hyped under the lights. As you say, the first time for you in Spodek, what do you think about this arena?

Actually, I always thought Spodek and Cologne would be sort of the same size of arena, but now I realize how big Cologne is. But Spodek is also quite huge, it's very loud, the fans get quite loud. Before the game, when O.J. asked, 'Who's gonna win,' it sounded so loud, I got chills all through my body.

I'm very happy to be in this moment, when you play and look at the crowd and you see the arena dark and everyone picks up their cellphone and turns on their flashlights, it looks so good. It looks like you're just in a dream and you see the stars. For me, it's emotion, I feel good about it, I feel like that gives me the passion and the motivation to push through and scream in game.

I'm very glad this was the game that welcomed us into Spodek. Also, Vitality, we never got through the quarter-finals, so this one feels very special for us, very unique.

Tomorrow, there's a possible matchup that is very comfortable for you out of the two possibilities — NAVI's never beaten you. Is that the one you'd be looking forward to more, or do you welcome the possible challenge of Spirit?

To be honest, I was thinking about it right now. We had a team talk just after we won, and I was thinking to myself, NAVI are always good, so we can never say we're gonna beat them for sure, but I think it would be really nice to play a grand final against Spirit.

The last time we played them I think we had JACKZ and we got bullied by them, but I'm really excited, donk looks like he's in form, and I really want a ZywOo-donk matchup again. That's the final I want.

We played against NAVI and it was huge, but I'd like to play as many teams as I can in a grand final just to have it. With NAVI it was great in Cologne and it's gonna be great here because they have a lot of people cheering for them, but with Spirit, there's something there, I wanna beat donk in a grand final.

Back at the HLTV Awards, you said the role changes weren't going to turn out exactly as we would have expected. A couple of changes happened for you, you moved on Anubis and Nuke from those anchor positions. How do you feel in your new positions?

I think on Anubis it was quite tough at the beginning, but me and mezii worked a lot to just get things going on and some ideas. It's tough because you don't have a lot of time to — sometimes the best practice is in officials, and we didn't have so many officials, and then we got Eternal Fire instantly on our head, and the next one was FaZe.

One thing that we need is this experience on those maps and some of the changes that have been made. Nuke, I'm very comfortable with, and some of the other changes that mezii and ropz switched also fit the team really well.

ropz is also an easy player to play with. He proposes a lot of ideas, he gives a lot of knowledge and effort in his position. It's quite easy to adapt to a new position when the guy who takes the other position communicates what he's gonna do, he has a lot of aggressive plays, you can play a lot on him and not just on yourself. He fills those roles quite easily for the other people.

At the beginning of the year, you had a bit of a slow start, but you've been on fire in Katowice. What was behind that?

I'm not an onliner (laughs). It was online, it was quite tough, and I didn't play so well individually. I didn't kill a lot, but I was talking a lot in the game in those matches, so I didn't feel so bad regarding the performance. But there is a different excitement when it comes to LAN, and I feel like we've all been grinding, and I hit good form.

Today against The MongolZ on Mirage, I was feeling this slow start and I wasn't feeling like it was due to pressure, I was feeling like my hands were sloppy and I couldn't properly aim, so this is something I'm coming for tomorrow, I'm gonna try to push instantly from the beginning.

There are a lot of excuses, cold hands, Poland (chuckles). But, for me, right now it's been going well, but I'm also a player that I need the team to help me in some sense. I'm always gonna entry, I'm always gonna sacrifice, I'm gonna try to do one or two jumpshots in a game.

This is something I'm allowed to do when I have great teammates behind me to trade, and that's getting me into those games. So far in this tournament I've been fortunate to have those situations, I'm glad.

France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
1387
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.61
Israel Shahar 'flameZ' Shushan
Shahar 'flameZ' Shushan
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
773
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1575
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
#1
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Turkey Shooenix
Sure bro Good Luck with that!
2025-02-08 22:36
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and I want a Ferrari f40, both things will never happen big bro
2025-02-08 22:36
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#11
donk | 
Europe naggby
likely not enjoyable to ride
2025-02-08 22:39
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9 replies
it's about the looks and history about this car, the last ever Ferrari personally commissioned and approved by Enzo Ferrari before he passed :(
2025-02-08 22:40
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8 replies
#22
donk | 
Europe naggby
It does look good, but tbh the whole idea of making luxury $1M+ cars is so wrong on many levels
2025-02-08 22:45
0
7 replies
yea, I mean it used to be 350k originally, but the price has sky rocketed ofc
2025-02-08 22:46
5
u clearly don't understand cars please stick to cs
2025-02-08 22:48
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1 reply
#31
donk | 
Europe naggby
from my experience, people love old classic/expensive cars when they're either kids or bored billionaires. I own an audi a7 2019 and still think it wasn't worth it
2025-02-08 22:57
0
The F40 is maybe everything but not luxury. It's the rawest street legal car ever, you pull a string to open the door, nothing is comfortable, nothing has been made to look nice inside, it has been made to make lap times, and it was freaking good at it. As for the enjoyment to ride, it depends what you are looking for It's terribly hard to drive, with the notorious turbo lag, the stiffness of the car and even the differential's settings, so yeah, you don't get in a F40 for groceries or casual fun But if you put on your gloves, close the harness, and turn the key, it's an event, and it's an insane car to drive, and this is why it's worth 2,5M€ now, not for marketing or rarity (Ferrari made a lot of those), it's because it's pure fun
2025-02-08 23:01
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3 replies
#39
donk | 
Europe naggby
cringe. you sound like you own one and not just quoting some carwow/topgear whatever. It's clearly a super expensive car. For a price of a good 1000m2 house + some decent car, you get a very old rusty bucket. It's sort of normal for bored billionaires to show that they've got "taste", but not for classic working class - it's weird that I have to explain that to a french who usually claim they're the most socialistic
2025-02-08 23:06
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2 replies
When you already have a good 1000m2 house + some decent car, because that’s probably the case for most F40 owners, you start buying cool things like this
2025-02-09 00:21
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#71
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Slovakia Psycho2k
You dont understand what he ment at all,its for people who like that car and wanna enjoy it.If u dont like it,you dont have to buy it,plus most people are already rich when buying cars like this,so they dont mind.
2025-02-09 01:43
1
enjoy your new ferrari f40 brother
2025-02-08 22:39
12
not with that attitude
2025-02-08 23:04
3
Any update?
2025-02-09 20:29
6
whoopsie, would have looked smart tho if spirit had smashed vita
2025-02-09 23:24
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#107
Faceit level 10  | 
Jimpphat | 
Finland Kuiskis
Aged like milk
2025-02-10 10:21
0
dont worry,you will 3-1 Vitality
2025-02-08 22:36
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1 reply
off by 1 map
2025-02-09 21:02
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aura
2025-02-08 22:36
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I'm rooting for you, buddy. But it won't happen.
2025-02-08 22:36
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#6
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
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Slovenia nejc__
flamEZ
2025-02-08 22:36
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#7
apEX | 
India bywoo
Jinxed?
2025-02-08 22:37
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this is the type of shit that doesn't age well
2025-02-08 22:37
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4 replies
he didn't shit talk them though he just said i wanna beat them nothing wrong with that
2025-02-08 22:57
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1 reply
true true but still
2025-02-08 22:59
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he just said he wants to beat donk in a grand final. he did not promised anything or threw some "hot" words
2025-02-08 22:58
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#91
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Israel HypnoCracker
Well....
2025-02-09 20:31
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#9
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Russia KopHuLLloH
You tell me exactly what you want, and I will very carefully explain to you why it cannot be. -Simeon, GTA V
2025-02-08 22:38
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4 replies
tell
2025-02-09 21:30
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3 replies
#97
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Russia KopHuLLloH
telling: "at the end, flamez, you didn't beat donk in a grand finals, because that is what zywoo did instead"
2025-02-09 21:33
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2 replies
He had a good showing overall in the finals, demon on that a-site mirage
2025-02-09 21:42
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1 reply
jokes aside, vita were extremely well prepared overall. i want to say overprepared but in reality spirit were just absent.
2025-02-09 21:44
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Vitality has: better players overall, better teamplay, better experience, more time to prepare, crowd support Spirit has: donk
2025-02-08 22:38
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6 replies
#17
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Russia balalexv
Meanwhile Sh1ro will be Spirit's best player in this matchup, as usual
2025-02-08 22:42
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1 reply
ye shiro is always really good vs vitality lel
2025-02-08 23:53
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#21
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
kyousuke | 
United States xynzzz
and honestly that gives spirit the edge
2025-02-08 22:44
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It S enough
2025-02-09 07:42
0
Zywoo and s1mple had no competition as super players. Not even prime niko or prime f0rest was so dominant. Still you forget to mention him because of how good Donk is.
2025-02-09 11:14
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when was the last time donk performed against vitality without stand-ins
2025-02-09 21:31
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#14
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Canada minibeech
go after donk every round. That way my fantasy can rack up them multi kills he gets from you feeding him.
2025-02-08 22:40
10
Hahaha like dont all the players?
2025-02-08 22:42
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#19
NiKo | 
Japan Kiriji
let's hope that vitality will win at least one map so it won't be boring 3-0 for spirit
2025-02-08 22:43
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3 replies
Idk im feeling its gonna be tough for spirit, zywoo is always dangerous
2025-02-08 22:48
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1 reply
flamez is dangerous, mezzi is dangerous, ropz is dangerous vitality firepower is insanely overwhelming but spirit have : donk and that may be enough lel
2025-02-08 23:54
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was a pretty boring 3 - 0
2025-02-09 20:02
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#20
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Israel RoyBenji
FlameZ yapmaster
2025-02-08 22:43
2
same
2025-02-08 22:45
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#27
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United States p0larix
I wanna become cs pro, I think I have a better chance than flamez beating mister spaghetti arms
2025-02-08 22:49
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#28
Faceit level 10  | 
Israel avivpro13
just do it then
2025-02-08 22:49
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#29
Faceit level 8  | 
DZ | 
Algeria SilverQuick
It's a 50/50 match tbh, there is no clear favourite for me, Vitality are good and so unpredictible they can beat any team right now including Spirit.
2025-02-08 22:56
0
Oh u will, donk glazers will be quiet tomorrow
2025-02-08 23:02
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1 reply
donk haters have been hiding in a cave since december 2024 you might get a chance tomorrow
2025-02-08 23:56
2
not gonna happen buddy boy
2025-02-08 23:03
3
please
2025-02-08 23:06
0
#42
Faceit level 9  | 
Singapore floofy1
>"It's quite easy to adapt to a new position when the guy who takes the other position communicates what he's gonna do from this we can interpret that spinX not talking much on what hes gonna do, not more than ropz at least.
2025-02-08 23:09
4
vitality free path to the finals, easy for donk xdddddddddd
2025-02-08 23:10
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#46
Faceit level 6  | 
NiKo | 
Canada swagcrazy
try beating him in a faceit pug first #donkgoat
2025-02-08 23:12
2
I am sure that an exciting finale awaits all of us. It won't be easy for both teams.
2025-02-08 23:18
0
Ropz destined to lose vs spirit?
2025-02-08 23:20
0
2 replies
never
2025-02-09 22:41
0
1 reply
Good for him
2025-02-09 22:48
0
3:1 Spirit
2025-02-08 23:21
2
Just make it a reality, what's so hard about it
2025-02-08 23:24
0
flam0z lucky because he doesn't meet w0nderful now, anyway spirit 26-0
2025-02-08 23:25
0
2 replies
#68
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
hally | 
Russia Juse
Your flair… it’s like you stepped shit
2025-02-09 00:32
3
1 reply
yes but its working, navi fans are malding )))))))))
2025-02-09 15:41
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#54
cool4st | 
Mongolia 4st
keep dreaming buddy
2025-02-08 23:28
4
maybe in 2040
2025-02-08 23:29
3
After this NAVI game it's 50/50
2025-02-08 23:32
0
Bro thinks he is the main character.
2025-02-08 23:45
2
1 reply
Lol
2025-02-08 23:49
0
You wont but godwoo will.
2025-02-08 23:47
1
Today was the finals, tomorrow will be just a showmatch
2025-02-09 00:02
0
You will buh
2025-02-09 00:23
0
ez4vitality
2025-02-09 00:29
0
:xD
2025-02-09 00:46
0
#70
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Serbia Cheerio23
Famous last words
2025-02-09 01:25
2
good luck))
2025-02-09 02:19
0
#74
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Brazil Lolove
Not tomorrow =/
2025-02-09 03:46
0
#75
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Australia hoangii
Flamez so overrated Somedays they call him a superstar But when vitality lose they say zywoo has no help
2025-02-09 04:32
0
1 reply
he was the only help last year for ZywOo. CS will never be 1v5 but then that's the thing 1 player is only performing as a 1.10 opener on your team and lacking in playoffs, then obviously you have no help. FlameZ hints in the interview that spinx wasn't even giving comms. Bro was a lurk and rotator. Like wtf
2025-02-09 21:35
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#76
ness | 
Canada ssau
I love how it’s “I want to beat donk” And not “I want to beat spirit” lol team spirit irrelevant except for extremely hard carry?
2025-02-09 06:00
1
maybe change your igl and coach and it might happen
2025-02-09 09:59
0
XD
2025-02-09 11:17
0
#81
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Ukraine CluuberTM
and u will flamez, Vitality are future winners of katowice 2025
2025-02-09 12:45
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#82
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Sweden Vrede
you got zywoo so yes!
2025-02-09 13:00
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#84
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Europe Zwenix
NAVI wanted to bet donk in semis too... and?
2025-02-09 15:59
0
go get them
2025-02-09 16:03
0
flamez has indeed beat donk in a grand final
2025-02-09 20:03
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#89
Faceit level 10  | 
Israel avivpro13
#28 grats bro
2025-02-09 20:05
2
ez prediction
2025-02-09 20:57
0
not just beat de_stroyed
2025-02-09 21:33
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