Stat Check: siuhy offers Liquid a way out of their T side nightmare

siuhy's new home offers great upside for both parties.

There were calls for a specialist in-game leader in Liquid long before Kamil "⁠siuhy⁠" Szkaradek was surprisingly benched by MOUZ.

But once that happened, it became a clamour.

It was a move that made sense on so many levels: siuhy is the outstanding in-game leader of the new generation, Russel "⁠Twistzz⁠" Van Dulken would be freed up as a fragger again, and you can lose the role clash between Justin "⁠jks⁠" Savage and Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic.

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Sources: Liquid target siuhy

It makes so much sense that you almost assume it will never happen. But, Liquid general manager Steve "jokasteve" Perino has made it so. They have got their man.

Bish bash bosh, trophies await. Or is it more complicated than that? Let's find out.

The place to start is that a leadership change was absolutely necessary.

Liquid had a 47.6% T side win-rate overall with Twistzz as in-game leader in LAN matches between top 20 teams, the fourth worst of anyone.

But when you look deeper, and remember that their home map was the T-sided Anubis in this period, that figure looks even worse: It drops to a staggering 43.8% without Anubis, at the bottom of the pile and worse than Falcons (including the old lineup), Complexity, and MIBR.

Twistzz's Liquid were below average on every single T side they played, except their trusty Anubis. On Nuke and Mirage, Liquid had 38.4% and 38.8% T side win rates respectively.

This is down to more than just the Canadian's calling. Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis was a free opening death for the first six months. NAF and jks took time to find a balance in terms of who would be more aggressive in their lurks (although they never really found it). Roland "⁠ultimate⁠" Tomkowiak has a 0.98 rating on T side in that period.

But Twistzz (and departing coach Torbjørn "⁠mithR⁠" Nyborg) have to shoulder most of the blame. The duo's time together saw Liquid remain hopeless on T side, as Twistzz failed to get the best out of his players or himself. He has a 1.02 T rating — a good bit below the 1.10 he had in the Casper "⁠cadiaN⁠" Møller lineup at the start of 2024 in the same roles. Leadership was a waste of his considerable talent.

siuhy comes in to fix that. In this pizza chart, we are comparing him to other in-game leaders to result in a score out of 100.

The Pole is above average in fragging, and in sacrificial stats like traded deaths percentage and flash assists. He is a stereotypical in-game leader, a selfless player who has moulded himself on the likes of Finn "⁠karrigan⁠" Andersen but, at 22, is a far better fragger than the elder statesmen of the scene.

"siuhy would balance Liquid out a lot on T side," his former GamerLegion coach Ashley "⁠ash⁠" Battye told HLTV in the siuhy fans come here podcast last month. "He gives a lot of structure, and a lot of top quality mid-round calling which is his biggest strength."

Given jks' drop in form below a 1.00 rating this year, the move is arguably a firepower upgrade once you account for the likely improvement in Twistzz's level now that he does not need to stay up late preparing gameplans.

The selflessness also solves the main issue with the Guy "⁠NertZ⁠" Iluz lineup, namely the lack of a natural bombsite entry. Now, we can have siuhy making space for Twistzz as the primary trade fragger, NAF as a supportive lurker, and NertZ free to make the solo plays that he made his name with.

That assumption is built into the move but we know it's not always that easy; Denis "⁠electroNic⁠" Sharipov and YEKINDAR can tell you as much.

Once a player has been an in-game leader, we know they can have trouble returning to being a regular player. Eyes are always on the radar, the mind is always on other teammates, and the focus on the crosshair just slips that little bit.

Something that might help Twistzz is that he will be away from the map control pack on T side, if siuhy comes in and NertZ keeps his spacetaker roles.

Twistzz spoke about playing in-game leader roles as a key part of what initially attracted him to playing under cadiaN at the start of 2024, roles which allow you to float around the map and be more aggressive than he could on FaZe.

But Twistzz was perhaps the best semi-lurker in the world under karrigan in FaZe — and those are the roles to which he should return.

When we say semi-lurker, we mean a player who often starts in lurk positions but becomes the aggressor in mid-round 3v3s, or returns to the team for executes.

Think of the dynamic with him, Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool, and Helvijs "⁠broky⁠" Saukants and you understand why that worked so well in terms of aggression balance (and also why jks and NAF didn't).

So in our predictions we've got Twistzz in FaZe roles, NAF as the full-time lurker, and NertZ as the spacetaker. That's a balanced trio that siuhy should be able to get the most out of.

Defence is more of a puzzle. siuhy had a mix of CT positions in MOUZ, but clearly preferred rotator positions like Connector on Mirage. There, he was in the centre of the map and able to keep control on defence as well as offense; he was more from the Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire style of CT leadership school than Rasmus "⁠HooXi⁠" Nielsen.

For all the struggles on T, Twistzz always ran a tight ship as in-game leader on CT with a 53% win-rate (the 4th best). Recently we have often heard of teams having different primary callers on attack and defence, with in-game leaders often shunted to the side of the map as anchors, and that seems the easiest solution here.

That means Twistzz and NertZ continuing as rotators, with the Canadian as the primary shotcaller on CT. It's a proven template, with Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač the main example of a star CT caller.

It does require siuhy to give up some of the control he had in MOUZ, an interesting proposition for a caller some have characterized as partial to a micro-manage.

apEX couldn't anchor on CT — will siuhy be able to?

The 22-year-old will also have to deal with big names, proven trophy winners who won't shy away from a conflict (or a coup — just ask cadiaN).

We also are still at a loss as to why siuhy was removed from MOUZ in the first place, with the team keeping it vague with terms like "differing visions." Given their success under Ludvig "⁠Brollan⁠" Brolin, even in arenas, was siuhy as good as his reputation? Was his success down to highly rated coaches like ash and Dennis "⁠sycrone⁠" Nielsen?

These questions are all hanging over the young Pole. His benching was the first hiccup in what has been a mightily successful career from WePlay Academy League domination, to a Major final in GamerLegion before ESL Pro League trophies at MOUZ.

Liquid is a different challenge, and siuhy will start PGL Bucharest alone with data analyst and self-admitted CS outsider Jay "⁠DeMars DeRover⁠" Li as the team's substitute coach.

He is also joining on a short-term three-month loan deal, at least initially, giving him a short window to prove he is worth a big buyout in the summer.

Liquid have been stuck in a cycle of changes. siuhy's job is to provide the stability they have been lacking.

Liquid have gone through 18 players and coaches since the start of 2022

siuhy has plenty in his in-tray when it comes to achieving that goal. He must cast aspersions on the doubts around not only upon himself but all four of his new teammates.

Twistzz can be an immensely useful secondary caller, with bags of experience and the talent to be a top 20 player once more — if siuhy can keep a lid on his leadership aspirations.

NertZ is a star rifler as skilled as any siuhy has worked with, despite his drop-off in March, but his approach will differ to previous spacetakers Mihai "⁠iM⁠" Ivan or Dorian "⁠xertioN⁠" Berman in what is still a new role for him.

NAF is 27, with 1045 LAN maps on the clock, and has dropped below a 1.00 rating in 2025. That's fine for a supportive element, but he needs to be a top anchor on CT side at least.

ultimate has the mechanical ability to be a top AWPer, and, in a market starved of alternatives, siuhy will need to mold him into one. That's a lot of work for one in-game leader who has no coach behind him, but everything we hear about him indicates that he has the ability, and the nerve, to pull it off. A move to Liquid is his chance to prove it.

Poland Roland 'ultimate' Tomkowiak
Roland 'ultimate' Tomkowiak
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
364
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.64
Latvia Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Helvijs 'broky' Saukants
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1168
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.61
Australia Justin 'jks' Savage
Justin 'jks' Savage
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1480
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.63
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1988
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.62
Russia Denis 'electroNic' Sharipov
Denis 'electroNic' Sharipov
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1716
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
Israel Dorian 'xertioN' Berman
Dorian 'xertioN' Berman
Age:
20
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
630
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
2405
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.69
Canada Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1847
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
Latvia Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Mareks 'YEKINDAR' Gaļinskis
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1489
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.69
Israel Guy 'NertZ' Iluz
Guy 'NertZ' Iluz
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
715
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.67
Denmark Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Casper 'cadiaN' Møller
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1872
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.62
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
2060
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.66
Sweden Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1414
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.67
Romania Mihai 'iM' Ivan
Mihai 'iM' Ivan
Age:
25
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1209
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.69
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1607
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
34
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
2480
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.69
Denmark Rasmus 'HooXi' Nielsen
Rasmus 'HooXi' Nielsen
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.85
Maps played:
1075
KPR:
0.57
DPR:
0.69
Poland Kamil 'siuhy' Szkaradek
Kamil 'siuhy' Szkaradek
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
927
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.69
Denmark Torbjørn 'mithR' Nyborg
Torbjørn 'mithR' Nyborg
Age:
35
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.81
Maps played:
33
KPR:
0.54
DPR:
0.70
Brollan > siuhy
2025-04-05 19:33
23
17 replies
it just the extreme firepower they have rn, look at g2 with snax in 2024 and in 2025
2025-04-05 19:38
85
8 replies
m0NESY = torzsi NiKo = Spinx malbsMd = xertioN
2025-04-05 19:55
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6 replies
#47
shox | 
Italy BNV
Meds
2025-04-05 20:59
50
#49
Faceit level 10  | 
EliGE | 
United States theberd
m0nesy>>>torzi niko>non chocker xertion malbs<Jimphat hunter<<spinx snax<brollan
2025-04-05 21:05
9
3 replies
My comment was a sarcastic response to this guy saying that MOUZ has firepower like G2 with NiKo m0NESY and unwashed malbsMd
2025-04-05 21:38
2
1 reply
Na it wasn't sarcasm you didn't put /s. /s
2025-04-06 00:39
0
#81
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Finland KarPPa
niko is the most notorious choker... gets protected wayy to much
2025-04-06 13:51
1
#90
Faceit level 10  | 
Denmark CoachLeflokz
Full on delulu
2025-04-07 08:42
0
#24
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Germany KEMSN
Not only..
2025-04-05 20:16
0
#9
Faceit level 10  | 
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Poland Klimma
That's a crack smoking statement
2025-04-05 19:40
24
3 replies
crack smoking = brain nourishment
2025-04-05 19:41
1
1 reply
That's a crack smoking statement
2025-04-05 19:52
21
#26
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Germany KEMSN
0/8 its based af
2025-04-05 20:16
0
Your just mad that Jimpphat turned out to be another siuhy's product from 1.14 to 1.03 since Kamil left
2025-04-05 20:58
8
3 replies
Even if he is in a slump 1.03 is fine for his roles, IGL does not change his play in his solo roles
2025-04-05 21:43
2
1 reply
#80
Faceit level 10  | 
Denmark XyhPZ
Ur just mad siuhy made jimphat
2025-04-06 13:33
1
kek, there are only so many kills you can get. Since other members are fragging harder and their doing better in general compared to when siuhy was around, jimmy has to carry less..
2025-04-06 13:28
0
#3
donk | 
Uruguay deeslo
Nice read thanks
2025-04-05 19:33
35
1 reply
Indeed although they messed up siuhy's and nafs positions on mirage
2025-04-05 21:31
0
thank u @NER0cs very cool !
2025-04-05 19:35
5
#6
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Canada Nettspend
bring back NA lulquid
2025-04-05 19:37
1
#7
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Honduras tIdr
Another avg @NER0cs banger
2025-04-05 19:38
31
6 replies
i remember when he said skullz was perfect for cadians liquid
2025-04-05 20:01
5
5 replies
#21
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Honduras tIdr
We are only human after all
2025-04-05 20:14
15
#25
Faceit level 10  | 
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United Kingdom NER0cs - HLTV.org
much harder to predict a personality clash like that liquid team had 😅 i said he was the perfect plan B for kscerato and i’d stand by that, still a solid player
2025-04-05 20:16
27
Who knew cadiaN is washed
2025-04-05 20:28
0
2 replies
my glorious pookie bear cadian did nothing wrong
2025-04-05 20:37
8
#73
Faceit level 4  | 
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Israel mcnamaras_EEEdiots
imagine trying to tell twistzz what to do when he has an idea of his own....
2025-04-06 01:05
1
#11
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Poland BAN_ANIME
thank you mr @NER0cs
2025-04-05 19:43
7
#13
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Scotland LinInABin
DeMars DeRover will be the reason Liquid wins 5 b2b majors
2025-04-05 19:53
14
can we get a stat check on how m0nesy will be guaranteed top 3 this year no matter what
2025-04-05 19:53
3
#17
Xyp9x | 
Asia NinX
Wait... Why is Ultimate on that right on the graph. Brother is playing AWP. He is in the wrong side of the quadrant. Ultimate should see this chart. He will understand what he needs to do to improve as AWPer.
2025-04-05 19:57
5
#19
JW | 
United States JW_belly
SSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIUUUUUUUUUUUUU
2025-04-05 20:04
6
1 reply
HHHHHHYYYYYYY
2025-04-05 20:33
6
polska pride
2025-04-05 20:06
3
> Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis was a free opening death for the first six months LOL
2025-04-05 20:15
12
"YEKINDAR was a free opening death for the first six months" Damn
2025-04-05 20:15
13
#27
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Germany KEMSN
Liquids downfall... they should kick him after major
2025-04-05 20:17
0
2 replies
Hahah After major siuhy leaving to faze or g2, no need to be kicked
2025-04-05 20:43
0
1 reply
#65
rain | 
United States celtek
yea haha that would be fucking idiotic delulu
2025-04-05 21:55
0
Twistzz is still gonna call on ct... ahh yeah they are still gonna choke lmao
2025-04-05 20:22
0
2 replies
#66
rain | 
United States celtek
CT was the only thing liquid was actually good at. They had the 4th highest win rate on CT
2025-04-05 21:56
3
1 reply
Sure they have, yet those stats doesnt include chokes on ct compared to t sid, that was the point
2025-04-05 22:30
0
Demar Derozan great coach 👍👍
2025-04-05 20:25
5
can't wait for those -siuhy threads
2025-04-05 20:25
3
Twistzz is the REAL star player. Nertz will be the second star player. That combo could be insane with the help of Siuhy's calling. People forget that Twistzz was the star player on Faze & the secondary caller. Twistzz was faze. The moment he left, Faze started crumbling. Even Ropz started to decline after he left. I hope Liquid can do better now. All i want is to witness a Liquid game were i'm not stressing out LOL.
2025-04-05 20:29
5
#33
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China hghgh
nice
2025-04-05 20:33
0
#36
Faceit level 10  | 
apEX | 
Russia K3yson
@NER0cs the lineup could have existed if they had removed naf and not Justin, right?
2025-04-05 20:38
2
5 replies
#39
Faceit level 10  | 
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United Kingdom NER0cs - HLTV.org
yeah just would have meant an asian mrq slot and liquid lose the last shred of their NA identity and i think naf has been better over the last 12mo overall
2025-04-05 20:43
2
4 replies
NAf even carrying NA with his name.
2025-04-05 22:15
3
naf masterclass 12-30, maybe actually watch the games instead of stats because this was expected
2025-04-06 16:37
1
2 replies
#86
Faceit level 10  | 
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United Kingdom NER0cs - HLTV.org
> 'watch the games' > cites stats > flair
2025-04-06 16:40
2
1 reply
yes and naf has been playing like this for months, regardless of my flair. if u had watched the games you would see he can't win aim duels to save his life
2025-04-06 16:41
2
#37
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Cuba Dyabolic
I know Twistzz was doing alright fragging as an IGL but my “main concern” right now is, will he return to old form after his IGL stint? We have seen a few players be hit by the “IGL curse”. Also, this made me chuckle: “the fourth worst of anyone.“ TL forever 4th 😭 For those who have followed LoL and TL.
2025-04-05 20:43
3
#41
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
Hong Kong JW1223
Twistzz IGL was just like NiKo IGLing History repeats itself
2025-04-05 20:46
3
im just sad mithr had to go :( he was such an animated coach
2025-04-05 20:56
2
2 replies
#48
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Latvia Bouncy2370
maybe this could be the new g2 mithr (coach) cadian (igl) s1mple (awp) heavygod k0nfig degster
2025-04-05 21:02
0
1 reply
#67
rain | 
United States celtek
Lmao
2025-04-05 21:57
0
#50
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
kinkybdsm | 
Other MissingN0
Has twitsz permanently destroyed liquid?
2025-04-05 21:11
0
1 reply
#54
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Latvia Bouncy2370
probably not, just niko igl things again
2025-04-05 21:29
2
#51
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United States m1nked
Hopefully Liquid can make it work. It sucks seeing TL in a consistent game of musical chairs.....
2025-04-05 21:16
2
I want to see Siuhy being the entry. Because that wasn't the case in Mouz and that's 1 of the reason why Brollan igl is working for Mouz.
2025-04-05 21:17
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#55
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10  | 
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North America unban_forsaken
This is down to more than just the Canadian's calling. Mareks "⁠YEKINDAR⁠" Gaļinskis was a free opening death for the first six months. YIKES! Didn't need to do my mans like this!
2025-04-05 21:30
3
gl
2025-04-05 21:38
1
#63
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Poland P4wl1k
Another @NER0cs masterclass
2025-04-05 21:50
1
#72
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Fiji Henpai
Better sign Brollan
2025-04-06 01:00
0
#75
Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
Poland veri
lets go siuhy bring back Liquid to powerhouse again
2025-04-06 02:32
0
CT side nightmare about to start justice for jks
2025-04-06 02:35
1
#77
Faceit premium user Faceit level 10  | 
ropz | 
Canada brokyydad
cadian a canadian without N, he was lit built for this lineup, f u russel
2025-04-06 06:10
0
#82
Faceit level 8  | 
donk | 
United States kiwipure
Aware
2025-04-06 15:47
2
Worked very well, thank you.
2025-04-06 15:49
2
statcels in shambles
2025-04-06 16:36
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#88
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Poland ad3mq
1st match 0 practics
2025-04-06 22:42
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#91
Faceit level 10  | 
Korea meds_by_dre
oh nyo...
2025-04-07 10:35
0
very big 0iq desicion
2025-04-07 13:01
0
#93
Faceit level 9 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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United States ROCKY_JAYYY
Liquid won't do anything if they don't kick ultimate
2025-04-07 14:04
0
why train have vertigo logo?
2025-04-07 15:31
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