How does Vitality's season compare to prime Astralis?

We put Vitality's 2025 run against Astralis’ legendary prime in terms of trophies, maps, opponents, and impact.

In the first half of 2025, Vitality delivered one of the most dominant seasons in Counter-Strike history. They claimed seven consecutive Big Event victories, including a Major title in Austin, and maintained an astonishing 30-match LAN win streak stretching over five months.

The addition of Robin "⁠ropz⁠" Kool revitalized a roster that wasn't a "real team" during 2024 and reached heights previously thought were impossible due to the ultra-competitive nature of the current circuit and the move to MR12, which gives teams less margin for error. Above all that, Vitality rekindled a debate as old as Counter-Strike itself: what is the best season in history?

In this article, we will take a closer look at that question by comparing Vitality's 2025 campaign with Astralis' legendary run in the second half of 2018, which many still view as the gold standard in different aspects such as trophy count, win streaks, map pool, and many more.

Let's start with the most straight-forward one to compare — trophies. Vitality attended eight LAN events in the first half of 2025 and won an incredible seven of them, only failing to secure gold in the season opener at BLAST Bounty.

They then won IEM Katowice, EPL S21, BLAST Open Lisbon, IEM Melbourne, BLAST Rivals, IEM Dallas, and finally the BLAST.tv Austin Major to put a bow on an already spectacular season, giving them an 87.5% LAN event win rate.

Astralis, on the other hand, also attended eight tournaments, but won just six. They began their season with a second place at DreamHack Masters Stockholm before winning the FACEIT Major and BLAST Pro Series Istanbul, but followed that up with a third-place finish at BLAST Pro Series Copenhagen.

The Danes then went on a win spree and took home first place at IEM Chicago, ECS S6 Finals, EPL S8 Finals, and BLAST Pro Series Lisbon, but even a 75% LAN event win rate wasn't enough to win out this category against the imperious Vitality.

Both teams also won the Grand Slam during their season. Astralis did so after their EPL S8 triumph, while Vitality won the revamped, and harder to win, ESL Grand Slam in Melbourne.

When we come to win streaks, Vitality stand out with their 30 games in a row across a four-month period that only ended in a best-of-one against Legacy at the Austin Major, a tournament they dominated despite that hiccup.

That streak becomes even more impressive when we add the fact that Dan "⁠apEX⁠" Madesclaire's troops are currently on a 34-series win streak in best-of-threes and best-of-fives, which has the chance to go even further after the summer break and already puts them at the top of the all-time list.

Conversely, Astralis racked up 14 wins in a row across the second part of 2018, eight of which came in a best-of-three format. This comes in part due to the higher frequencies of best-of-ones during that time period and occasional hiccups even in the middle of their era.

Vitality's map pool, which served as a springboard for their consistency, also serves up some breathtaking numbers. Outside of their permaban of Ancient, their worst map across 2025 was Anubis (66.7% win rate), with Mirage (68.4%) not far ahead.

After those maps, however, the numbers get even crazier, as Mathieu "⁠ZywOo⁠" Herbaut and company recorded a +80% win rate on all other maps. Nuke (83.3%), Inferno (85.7%), and Train and Dust2 (88.9%) have all proved a happy hunting ground for the squad, whose longest win streak came on Inferno (13).

All of that gives them an overall record of 76-18, or an 80.8% win rate overall.

Astralis' map pool was also impressive, albeit slightly more top-heavy. Their permaban was Cache, even though they successfully picked it against Natus Vincere once, with their three next best maps being Overpass (54.5% win-rate), Train (57.5%), and Mirage (60%).

Next comes the trifecta of their era — Inferno (86.2 %), where they recorded a ten-game win streak, Dust2 (90%), and Nuke (100%), where they won 12 in a row. Their overall record was thus 66-19, or a 77.6% win rate.

Next we will look at their records against their three closest challengers throughout their respective seasons. For Vitality, those three teams were Falcons, MOUZ, and Spirit, and apEX's squad didn't lose a single series against any of them.

They beat MOUZ seven times, Falcons four, and Spirit three with a combined map record of 34-10, one that becomes 15-6 in their six grand-final bouts against the aforementioned trio.

Astralis' closest challengers were Natus Vincere, FaZe, and Liquid, and the Danes lost a solitary game against each. Natus Vincere beat them in a best-of-one at BLAST Pro Series Copenhagen, FaZe did so in a group-stage seeding game at IEM Chicago, while Liquid got the better of the Danes in a best-of-one clash at the FACEIT Major.

That puts their overall record at 11-3, with the map count standing at 20-6 across the season.

The worst records for the team came against their bogey lineups, namely Eternal Fire for Vitality and North for Astralis. The latter still went the way of Lukas "⁠gla1ve⁠" Rossander's men across the season, however, while the Eternal Fire match proved to be a one-off.

Last but not least, we can take a look at how the pros viewed coming up against both squads. For the Vitality side, Ludvig "⁠Brollan⁠" Brolin and Ádám "⁠torzsi⁠" Torzsás were the most expressive after finding themselves on the wrong side of the series seven times across the season.

"There are going to be some rounds where ropz or ZywOo is just going to make a really insane round that feels impossible to lose," Brollan told HLTV at BLAST Rivals.

Meanwhile, torzsi was in a mischievous mood even after another tough loss to Vitality in the Major semi-final. "I'm really proud of what we achieved here, and how we're progressing, but yeah, we just need to get rid of Vitality [laughs]", he said after the semi-final exit.

"They're a better lineup, better players, and we need something. Basically, they've lost zero best-of-threes; other teams couldn't beat them. If we wanted to beat them, we needed to have something," Andrey "⁠B1ad3⁠" Gorodenskiy joined the Vitality platitudes after Natus Vincere were sent home from Austin.

Astralis had a similar reputation of an indomitable team, with ropz, who played for MOUZ at the time, admitting that teams are not finding ways to get the better of the Danes.

"If we're going into matches like this one against Astralis, I mean one day, we know we'll for sure beat them, it's not going to stay like this forever. We're just kind of like hoping that... something clicks," he said.

"We had to beat the big boss before we can say anything and now we beat them, so it feels good," Håvard "⁠rain⁠" Nygaard said about finally getting the better of Astralis at IEM Chicago. "Every time we played them before we'd get hit with 200 grenade damage every round, and I feel like now we're starting to understand how they play, we're learning and developing," he added. Still, it would be quite some time before teams figured out the real counter to their playstyle.

His then-teammate Nikola "⁠NiKo⁠" Kovač was also fueled by the eagerness to knock the Danes off their perch. "The biggest goal for next year is just to knock Astralis off the top, that is my biggest motivation," he told HLTV. "I am too tired of watching them win everything this year."

Both Vitality and Astralis have earned their place among the all-time greats in Counter-Strike history. The Danes defined an era with their methodical, utility-heavy style that set new standards for what a championship team looked like. Vitality, on the other hand, stormed through 2025 and won nearly everything in sight with a consistency that's not supposed to exist in CS2.

Can Vitality continue their rampage at IEM Cologne?

When comparing their peak seasons side by side, most measurable metrics, such as event wins, series win streaks, map win rates, tilt in Vitality’s favor, even though comparing teams in different eras is always hard.

Yet history has a way of appreciating things in hindsight. We may be witnessing something better than the Astralis era in real time, but it's harder to appreciate due to its recency. Vitality have bested Astralis across a single dominant season, but the real question is whether they can sustain it. Astralis built a legacy on longevity as well as dominance. The Vitality era may have only just begun, and the looming IEM Cologne gives them a chance to keep the domination running a while longer.

Sweden Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Ludvig 'Brollan' Brolin
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1461
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1658
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
Denmark Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
2182
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.66
France Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.27
Maps played:
1470
KPR:
0.84
DPR:
0.60
Norway Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
2123
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.69
Hungary Ádám 'torzsi' Torzsás
Ádám 'torzsi' Torzsás
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
942
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.60
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
2456
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.69
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
2130
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.66
#1
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mzinho | 
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Best season ever.
2025-07-25 23:27
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How can it be when there are no quality teams challenging them? The only team that has looked against against Vitality was a Falcons that just added Monesy, and even then took them to 5 maps in finals, could have won both finals too. Astralis played against prime liquid, faze, s1mple, VP, finnish Ence etc. These days Vitality is playing against totally incomplete teams. Can you seriously say the level of competition is ANYWHERE near the same?
2025-07-26 11:53
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danish cope, Astralis was good at their time, today they would get trashed by most tier1 teams
2025-07-26 12:30
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No shit, has nothing to do with the matter at hand. Polish education
2025-07-26 12:39
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#132
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Germany Djinigami
what a useless statement people got better since 2019 shocker
2025-07-26 12:44
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Latvia latvianguy
No it's not ANYWHERE near the same, the level now is x50 times better than the level we saw during 2018-2019, so you're completely wrong buddy. Prime Astralis could not hold it's own in the 2020s eras at all, for sure
2025-07-26 18:11
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Zywoo incomparable
2025-07-25 23:28
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true. GOAT.
2025-07-25 23:32
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S1mple incomparabile
2025-07-25 23:45
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United States bennyjig
Is that the gambling guy?
2025-07-25 23:51
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Yeah the guy who did this to the fake goat youtu.be/xXtG08g-n4o?si=42T5OE-PAdm2a4xb
2025-07-25 23:55
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Europe Zwenix
Csgo was such a beautiful game. I get headaches from watching cs2
2025-07-25 23:59
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2025-07-26 01:10
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2025-07-26 01:13
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2025-07-26 01:16
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I don't remember this
2025-07-26 01:20
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Its coping mechanism of s0mple fans. Erase bad things from memory. Pretend like they never happened and continue living in their delusion.
2025-07-26 12:18
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Yeah, you cant compare s1mple to the GOAT, you are right.
2025-07-26 09:16
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zonic fraud
2025-07-25 23:27
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Argentina xpl0d3
Astralis era was way bigger, prime s1mple, prime coldzera/fer, prime Navi, VP, fnatic etc
2025-07-26 01:57
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maybe but Bad News Eagles clears every team in the history of humanity anyway so the article is pointless
2025-07-26 02:15
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vp was beyond washed in astralis era Prime s1mple = prime donk Decent mibr = decent Navi Decent fnatic = decent eternal fire superteam faze = superteam falcons Mouz = mouz Prime zywoo (in 2019) = Prime kyousuke? Prime molodoy? Prime liquid (in 2019) = Some team incoming Prime ence (in 2019) = prime mongolz
2025-07-26 10:38
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Nah zywoo was like prime donk, it was insane, he was already the best, otherwise you’re fully right
2025-07-26 11:10
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You are clearly misremembering. Please ignore this guy.
2025-07-26 10:54
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"Prime vp" you mean polish vp that collapsed in 2018-19? "Prime fnatic" you mean that roster with xizt and twist that couldn't get past challenger stages if qualify for a major at all? Yes they somehow managed to make it close vs astralis once (Chicago 2018 semi iirc) but it's more of an astralis stumble than "fnatic prime" Coldzera was significantly weaker in 2018 than he was on his prime and went full washed in 2019. Fer was already washed in 2018-19 "Prime s1mple" and "prime Navi" you shouldn't have splitted those into 2 cos back then it meant the same thing, no s1mple no navi. s1mple having to carry Zeus, Edward, flamie asses was one of the reasons why they won so little in 2018-19. Also prime navi were in 2021. Even 2024 navi > 2018 navi as a team So yeah you have to get the chronology straight
2025-07-26 12:01
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Argentina xpl0d3
Learn to read prime teams stop at Navi, and fnatic and VP were too solid and well feared
2025-07-26 12:04
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the well feared vp in 2018-19: 0 trophies, 0 big event deep runs. they had 5 deep runs on fissure playground-tier tournaments for the entirety of 2 years fnatic did better than that of course, but they were on decline for the most part of these 2 years. they were good in early 2018 (technically before astralis era even started, it started with dh marseille in april), then flusha & golden left and they were declining for 1.5 years until eventualy flusha & golden returned in late 2019, making them an elite team until covid with xizt & twist fnatic were a laughing stock. being able to beat fnatic with xizt & twist says nothing about this team being dominant the closest rivals to prime astralis were 1) prime liquid, 2) prime s1mple and prime electronic in navi
2025-07-26 17:07
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Netherlands xrnavkha
idk 3 majors in a row is rly something
2025-07-25 23:28
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3 majors in 1 season? crazy
2025-07-25 23:34
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Vitality best season sure, but Astralis era was like 4 seasons
2025-07-26 00:30
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
They won 2 during their era but post-era, they were still the most dominant team on 2019 and did indeed win three Major's in a row. Vitality had the better season but Astralis currently have the longevity, as we're comparing a single season to an entire era.
2025-07-26 01:37
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Actually if you bothered read article (and also understand it), you would know article didn't compare "a single season to an entire era". Vitality's Era and their prime season vs Astralis prime season -> again current Vitality win And Vitality is doing this when skill level is super much higher (like mouz players said: yet still Vitality got more skill than other teams today) than back in astralis days that best teams were what tier-6 teams are today AND mr12 makes it even harder since it increase variance and much less chance for mistakes. Vitality when any comparison, all experts have agreed. Even most respected Thoorin who followed CS 25 years in row watching all great teams playing vs others from 2000 daily. Also stats are on Vitality side Sorry to disappoint, but current Vitality is GOAT
2025-07-26 18:43
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I did read the article. "How does Vitality's season compare to prime Astralis?" <-- Meaning Vitality's current 2025 season is tantamount to that of Prime-Astralis, and by proxy, their respective era as 2018 Astralis. I also never disputed that Vitality's current form was "better", nor would I be disappointed by this prospect either; I disputed that Astralis did not win three Major's during their era, only two, but did indeed win three in a row during their entire dominance when assessed overall. The issue is that we don't know if Vitality can win another Major or a Cologne because it hasn't happened yet with only playing a single season, meaning the comment of "three Major's in a row" is great and all to respect Astralis' peak form, but not exactly comparable to Vitality who only played one thus far. Astralis still have the longevity but we won't know if Vitality will yet... that's the point.
2025-07-26 18:51
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I can respect how you analyst things and give arguments, but I still say that you missed the point: Who cares about "longevity" (especially so unstable as "Astralis" was), Success on certain period matter known as season, ONLY THING MATTER is that who is GOAT, Who is The Best team of All Time and its current Team Vitality and they proved it last season, nobody can take it away from them anymore (unless some mystic super super team come in future and do even better than Vitality did, which is super unlikely)
2025-07-26 20:13
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Well, I have to disagree there, I can't decide with 100% certainty that Vitality are the best team of all-time and have surpassed all of the other teams in that respect, as we can't really decide something like that with how different the respective eras of old were. I will, however, state that I believe Vitality can become the best team of all-time with more sample size than a single season. We have yet to see that. :)
2025-07-26 20:18
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Sample size is enough big already in this comparison and other articles + experts opinions (and they had good arguments why sample size was enough), and like many people have mentioned in their arguments that I copy from them: not even mentioning that back then (during astralis era) skill level was so low that it is what today is tier-6 skill level, its like comparison of 1925 football to 2025 football level, 2025 win with big margin that extra thing (about skill level rising so much) mentioning makes it only stronger case that current Vitality is GOAT
2025-07-26 20:25
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It's only regarded as lower because of how far the game has come and evolved since those times, the competition is as fierce as its ever been and it's only going to get better with each passing year, which is why we need to respect and view the eras and dominances of old in retrospect to the time; as, during that time, it was the highest competition, and 2015's fnatic era has actually aged insanely well—same for Astralis, for that matter. If you can safely state that a single season of CS is enough to trump the eras of old, including Astralis? Then I'll respect that opinion, my friend. It was indeed a good season—maybe the best season we've ever seen by a team since the days of NiP. :D I just can't comfortably make a call like that without at least the same amount of time with this current roster, like the previous rosters that we are comparing the dominance to.
2025-07-26 20:25
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You forget that changing to MR12 possible (I don't know for sure, just an observation) can make it literally inpossible to have such "longevity" anymore and for sure old teams and their eras "longevity" lose more meaning after one season because of that, and to be honest, MOST IMPORTANT: if longevity really would be key argument for who is GOAT there are some teams from early 1999+ who even dominated longer than Astralis, still nobody count those almost 25 years old teams to list of GOAT candidates... (back then skill level was close to today's matchmaking silver level) And do you know why? Because people actually believe that it does matters a lot what skill level have been and what is today, when comparin who is GOAT
2025-07-26 20:38
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I'd argue it's only fair to include at least GO considering CS2 and GO exist within the same period of Counter-Strike; which is why I assume this article even exists, because Astralis are arguably the only team to compare this dominance to. Articles and debates like this are important for discussion, and the more we see, the more we are able to confirm in our own mind of the opinion we want to make. I don't think that MR12 is that relevant in the grander aspect of things because it just implies that games are more difficult to win because of shorter rounds, but on the other side of the spectrum, it can also make games easier to win with less rounds to make a comeback. It's just how you choose to perceive these kinds of things.
2025-07-26 20:45
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Europe Zwenix
Hltv should start doing some tldr
2025-07-25 23:29
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United States Cashen
TLDR 2025 Vitality Good 2018 Astralis Good
2025-07-25 23:48
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tldr vitality a little better than astralis over ther best seasons but can vita keep it up?
2025-07-25 23:55
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Europe Zwenix
Thanks :D
2025-07-25 23:56
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Life hack: scroll down and read the conclusion they are basically a tl;dr
2025-07-26 10:41
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Goats
2025-07-25 23:29
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Europe SVJQAQ
0-2 vs aurora is crazy tho
2025-07-25 23:30
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i dont see any mention of aurora in the article
2025-07-25 23:48
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Europe SVJQAQ
EF, auroar, same shi
2025-07-25 23:51
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Russia moonEEK!
@gork explain
2025-07-25 23:31
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France JuLoZoR
Insane team, let's go Vita!
2025-07-25 23:33
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nice article
2025-07-25 23:34
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Luxembourg 2000
Uh-mazing Article
2025-07-25 23:38
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the best single season and most likely the most dominant period in modern history...hard to compare it with nip so i wont say of all time
2025-07-25 23:38
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considering its not even officially done yet, vitality > astralis
2025-07-25 23:43
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Astralis sweeps as always
2025-07-25 23:46
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United States bennyjig
The kings of the plumbers
2025-07-25 23:52
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flair checks out
2025-07-26 00:31
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I’d argue the opposite, even as a mouz fan. The top 3 rivals of Mouz Spirit and Failcons doesn’t stack up to those legendary liquid faze and Navi rosters. Spirit are really good and mouz can be but they choke when the odds are against them and failcons are just cursed.
2025-07-26 00:44
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100% agreed
2025-07-26 01:18
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good point
2025-07-26 11:57
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good joke, none of those "legendary liquid faze and Navi rosters" weren't even their prime rosters and prime versions of teams and even best skill level back then is what tier-6 is today even expert casters have agreed this is true, its like comparin football level and teams in 1925 to 2025
2025-07-26 20:17
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This means that s1mple is the GOAT, he wins without having honeymoon seasons
2025-07-25 23:46
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Indonesia Oetmar
What about b1t?
2025-07-26 06:36
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This article isn’t about s1mple. Gtfo
2025-07-26 11:05
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Great article Epic
2025-07-25 23:46
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Great article, respect
2025-07-25 23:51
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astralis strongest rival north lmao
2025-07-25 23:55
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King MSL is not to be underestimated
2025-07-26 00:03
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Canada p1peb0mb
Do 2015 fnatic.... and 2013 nip
2025-07-25 23:57
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France JBzOo
And sk - luminosity Ldlc-envyus to will be great
2025-07-26 01:06
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Canada p1peb0mb
They were not consistently winning as fnatic and nip tho
2025-07-26 01:41
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France JBzOo
Yes ofc but after nip and fnatic would be great cause french core go two major in one year as the bresilian …
2025-07-26 01:42
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TSM (device/cajunb/karrigan/xyp9x/dupreeh) were basically even (sometimes winning record) with fnatic in 2015 Just TSM lost to EnVyUs, NIP, VP and Navi a lot more than fnatic did
2025-07-26 01:42
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Canada p1peb0mb
Problem is they didn't won enough. Like current spirit maybe
2025-07-26 01:42
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nah not even close, spirit can't even win vs actual top top teams due to it being a 1 man team i.imgur.com/nwEArCU.png TSM vs fnatic head2head 2015
2025-07-26 01:51
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Brazil hugoooo
7-1 over Brazil mentioned
2025-07-25 23:58
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Haha I might be biased, but Vitality doesnt come close to the Astralis era, they litterally completly changed how the game was played.
2025-07-26 00:03
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as an era astralis clear...as the most dominant period? vitality clears...
2025-07-26 00:10
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I think to win majors in a raw is more dominant than to win 6 month tournaments
2025-07-26 10:33
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absolutely not...
2025-07-26 10:53
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Winning 3 majors in a row isnt more impressive than winning 6 tournaments, when theyve also almost won everything during a season like vitality xD
2025-07-26 12:01
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i never said a word about what is more impressive...i only said that vitality had more dominant period than astralis which is pretty much fact. 30 vs 17 match streak and vitality also hold the longest winning streak in big events with 7 events in a row with major and kato included. astralis is the greatest team of all time, there is no debate there. the best team of the year 3 years str8 with several majors but if we would talk solely about the most dominant period? vitality is simply ahead
2025-07-26 12:05
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Okay, I based it off of your comment "absolutely not..." to wether winning majors in a row is more dominant than to win 6 months of tournaments. Must have misunderstood you then
2025-07-26 12:11
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It is harder to win the most important tournament and defend that. It shows bigger dominance cuz it isn't just a phase or a momentum
2025-07-26 12:12
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it doesnt show dominance, it shows that team can peak at the right time in the most important tournament. sk/lg also won 2 majors in a row but they were never dominant... its about period where you absolutely anihilate your competition...and in that aspect vitality had more dominant period...
2025-07-26 12:14
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Europe Zwenix
The way astralis was winning was something else though. They dominated so hard it was boring to watch at times
2025-07-26 12:18
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streaks are streaks tho
2025-07-26 12:19
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They are literally way more dominant than astralis ever was. And its not even close.
2025-07-26 00:11
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#59
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
That's definitely not something to be accepted as fact. Astralis era is still seen as the peak of what CS dominance is to be compared to, but only retrospectively to the time of CS, like 2015 fnatic and 2013 NiP, who were arguably more or just as dominant. We're also comparing a single season to an entire era of CS - it's not that simple.
2025-07-26 01:40
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#52
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United States webchilla
Doesn't that just describe all pro play? If you go back and watch games from early csgo some of the amazing new strats of the time are now just second nature to faceit level 5s
2025-07-26 01:15
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#71
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Denmark Danny D3
While you're obviously right, I think there's a difference between creating strats that gets used widely, and defining an entire playstyle that most of the scene eventually copies to an extent. Though, a lot of that playstyle wasn't exactly new at the time. It's the same sort of dynamic/coordinated playstyle with an emphasis on the use of utility that zonic and mTw used in 1.6.
2025-07-26 02:28
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I’d say that Astralis used to beat their opponents with more ease while Vitality had a lot of very tight matches score wise against their rivals (12-6 comeback vs Falcons or several matches against Mouz were it ended up being 13-11). Astralis looked like several classes above their opponents.
2025-07-26 11:11
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youtube.com/watch?v=rdM6nm5WIV0 and if you look at match win streak its 30 vs 17 for vitality and vitality also hold the longest event streak with 7 big events in a row(kato and major included). astralis is the best team of all time without a doubt. top 1 team of the year 3 years str8, several majors etc but if we would talk about the most dominant period? nah, vitality is over them for me for sure
2025-07-26 11:15
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I don’t get how so many can miss the point of this article. They are not comparing vitality season to the whole of Astralis era, they are just comparing vitality’s season to Astralis best season. Season as in 6 month period because of Christmas and summer breaks
2025-07-27 11:48
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Best era ever confirmed.
2025-07-26 00:04
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#62
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's not confirmed, as we don't know if it is an era or not till the dominance ends; if the dominance will even end at all.
2025-07-26 01:41
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#81
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Australia hoangii
Its an era
2025-07-26 07:03
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We can't logically come to that conclusion yet based on a single season. At this point, it's just an opinion to be respected. 1. It has yet to even end in order to even assess the period of dominance overall. 2. The eras of old that we compare a period of dominance to lasted for two seasons, not one. It might be the best era is Counter-Strike history but we have yet to see that with only a single season of sample size to work with.
2025-07-26 11:39
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The Blast Pro Series' were also Mickey Mouse tournaments
2025-07-26 00:04
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3 major playoffs in a row without losing a map speaks for itself. Getting slammed by Mongolz on the first map of a major grand final also speaks for itself. Lol
2025-07-26 00:04
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#39
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Sweden Vrede
Vitality clears era ends in 2026?
2025-07-26 00:09
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It depends on how long it lasts Astralis were dominant till 2019, small downtime where liquid took over and again came back with Berlin and the rest of the year. 2020 was also a decent year- vitality and NaVi would challenge but they still ended number 1 in that year as well I suppose if Vitality can win out everything In this year, then I suppose that vitality's era is the same as Astralis
2025-07-26 00:47
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#77
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Canada p1peb0mb
its not about length. its about how much they win. if they can achive more than astralis did in lesser time, its obvious hey are better.
2025-07-26 06:14
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But the issue with this is that the number of tournaments are different from back then Random example Say 2018 astralis had 8 tourneys in a year (I don't have the exact number hence the assumption) Vitality 2025 had...6 in the first half itself. With some laxity, say they won all the tournaments . But vitality still has won lesser, even though they won all the tournaments. Which is why I think that duration of the era needs to be kept into account
2025-07-26 09:07
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i like astralis more because they accomplished what they did with teamwork and all around power; vitality has the best player in the world + ropz, so while vit fs is more dominant, i still find astralis's run more iconic
2025-07-26 00:53
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#65
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's an interesting comparison indeed, but one I feel is honestly incomparable as of yet, to be honest. Once 2025 is over and Vitality have a year of dominance to assess, then we can make comparisons. It's easily the best season in CS history if we don't count NiP, though.
2025-07-26 01:42
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#152 Read ”In this article, we will take a closer look at that question by comparing Vitality's 2025 campaign with Astralis' legendary run in the second half of 2018, which many still view as the gold standard in different aspects such as trophy count, win streaks, map pool, and many more.”
2025-07-27 11:51
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Yeah I know, I'm just saying it's too soon to make that comparison as of yet, in my opinion.
2025-07-27 12:44
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#70
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Denmark Danny D3
I think it's already in Vitality's favour, and I think it will continue for a while so it will be unquestionable. The only thing Astralis have, is that they dominated when the game was actually good.
2025-07-26 02:20
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Astralis changed how the game to be played,they beat teams before events start.vitality is beatable . They won falcon that game cuz monesy went on a flashy round unless it was over.
2025-07-26 02:39
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#73
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Asia david332
Xyp9x also the main reason why astralis success in mid 2018 until end of 2019 years. His lurk, support and clutch bring bringing impact in astralis to win rounds.
2025-07-26 02:49
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#84
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Asia NinX
New Gen people will see Ropz putting 1.20 and Xyp putting 1.17 and think yes, Ropz is a superior lurker ! Ropz does have better mechanics but Xyp9x put those number while being the 4th player on the team. Taking 2x less resources than Ropz. It's Basically taking Mezii worth Resources and put up Ropz worth number. I always like to think where would have been Xyp placed in top 20 if took resources Ropz take. One the True GOATs without recognition.
2025-07-26 08:25
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Feels like you're using all this to invalidate ropz's impact on the team's success. Ropz is to zywoo what dupreeh was to device while doing what xyp did in Astralis. He steps in and team's dominated an entire season similar to when magisk joined Astralis. The game has also changed the way opponents were playing it back in 2018. You can check xyp's numbers when teams figured out AST by 2019 and so on. Not saying Xyp is trash or anything but ropz is far beyond some average resource vampire you're trying to portray him as. It's not his fault that no one on can be the secondary caller, secondary awper, anchor and lurk. He's like a complete package. So, if he uses more resources that's not because he has an ego or he's trash, it's because he's has so many qualities in one player that requires more resources to be able to contribute as much as possible to the team's success.
2025-07-26 09:43
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#92
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Asia NinX
You can check xyp's numbers when teams figured out AST by 2019 and so on. 1.11 as the 4th Best Player in the team during LANs in 2nd half of the 2019 season. Then He went on a break, then it was sharing spot with Bubzkji. Then role conflict with BlameF. So technically after 2019 season. We never saw Xyp at his peak potential. So we never say what peak Xyp would have been after Astralis was figured out. Ropz is far beyond some average resource vampire you're trying to portray him as. I would like to apologize, if that is what was conveyed from my message. As matter of fact, I was trying to say exactly opposite of seeing a version of Xyp9x that was supported and provided for as much as Ropz has been. Cause since the day of Copenhagen Wolves it was always Dupreeh and Device. So we always saw a support/Lurker Xyp. Not a Lurker/Anchor Xyp... not to the extent of Ropz. By no mean, Ropz is resource vampire or trash, in fact it boils my blood when people compare him and BlameF. My thought was about seeing a version of Xyp where he had as much as support as Ropz, where we was setup for success, instead of setting others for Success. Just as thought experiment, where would Xyp land as number 1 or number option of the team. He had the mechanics in his prime to do it. Just never the opportunity.
2025-07-26 10:28
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idc prime magisk mewing streak>anyone on vita
2025-07-26 04:09
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Mouz being smoked by both the most in each season xd
2025-07-26 05:08
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prime vita > prime astralis tbh
2025-07-26 06:26
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Copium
2025-07-26 10:32
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#79
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Japan Kiriji
not even close to GOAT Astralis team
2025-07-26 06:34
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Difference between an era and a season. Maybe you learn it in the following 6 months.
2025-07-26 07:11
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All in all this tells me that Astralis were better by a bit
2025-07-26 07:25
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#86
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Egypt BomberMan_
Big difference is that blast was a super mickey mouse tournament back in 2019 as well with that format.
2025-07-26 09:11
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this season all we had was mickey mouse events aside from maybe kato
2025-07-26 09:18
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#90
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Egypt BomberMan_
at least the formats were decent, but you arent wrong MR12 is mickey mouse central
2025-07-26 10:10
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yeah and most events were also missing some of the top teams for various reasons
2025-07-26 10:15
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How it compares? Astralis won except cologne, everything that matters several times. And at peak they didn't need individual players to shine. And there weren't much tournament skips from top teams. Vitality dodged spirit at least 2 times in 6 months Vitality is a joke to that
2025-07-26 10:31
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#107
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India bywoo
cope, spirit dodged t1 tournaments
2025-07-26 11:27
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They also dodged EF/Aurora but they couldn't even qualify or make Top 2/Top 4 to even face Vitality, same goes for Spirit, who couldn't beat MOUZ. They would have fought in the Major otherwise.
2025-07-26 11:43
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XDDD
2025-07-26 12:08
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You cannot compare CS2 and CSGO. Also mr13 vs mr16. 2019 vs 2025 and 2.0 and 2.1 rating system, the game and meta changed ALOT during that span. It's like you would compare dogs and cats. Yes both are pets, but different animals. lol. I can say it from experience, because the first version I touched was CS 1.5 back in the days. I also played the original version of CS pro mod. And was in a team when clanbase was the thing.
2025-07-26 10:48
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You can definitely make comparisons but only when done correctly, retrospectively and according to the correct context, in my opinion. When we're assessing dominance like this, we can only compare it to the likes of Astralis or the eras of old because there are no other teams to compare them to. CS2 and CS:GO exist within the same period of Counter-Strike during the modern age of Counter-Strike, so all of the accolades, eras, accomplishments, accolades and even the records exist across both games.
2025-07-26 11:47
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Vitality peak season > Astralis peak season but Astralis era > Vitality "era"(?)
2025-07-26 11:17
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Haven't even read it but apples to oranges
2025-07-26 11:22
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even Navi 2021 clears Vitality stop disrespecting Astralis ffs i thought hltv loved Astralis
2025-07-26 12:12
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#135
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France ast0o
dream on
2025-07-26 16:44
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This is the best season ever for a team. Vitality for ever ♥️
2025-07-26 12:09
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i am way too flagged to contribute. but if vita makes a back to back to back major win and holds the spot for more than 406 days as #1 team in the world in rankings, we might have a conversation.
2025-07-26 12:18
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#123
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Vietnam duy411
Astralis prime just like jet2holiday
2025-07-26 12:12
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#130
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Europe lucekek
This is only a best season comparison, which in this case leans more towards vita, however, to outplay the Astralis era they need a lot more than one perfect season. Still, both teams were/are spectacular to watch. Astralis with their surgeon-like precision on strat execution and Vita just powering through teams, yes, they have many close up matches - but on the other hand it's much more entertaining to watch all these comebacks, back and forths etc. Instead of one-sided bulldozer. All in all both teams needs to get appreciated, numbers are numbers and hard to deny the impact of vita and their run in bo3s but let's be honest, from our - viewers/fans - perspective, let's just enjoy prodigies
2025-07-26 12:34
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Astralis ruined the scene for almost 2 years or something by winning 3 straight majors and most of the major exents they attended. But yeah lets compare 6 months of vitality domination with 3 straight majors 😂😂
2025-07-26 15:13
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Its comparison of Astralis best season vs Vitality best season Not Vitality or experts fault that astralis is just super bad in comparisons not even mentioning their weaker seasons Current Team Vitality = GOAT
2025-07-27 02:44
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Thing is that Astralis dominated for more than 1 season so lets compare Vitality's past 2 years to Astralis best 2 years instead
2025-07-27 14:48
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It doesn't work like that, first off vitality never played with this lineup so long Secondly, one season is perfect comparison (it was even Astralis best season and still they didn't come even close to Vitality's success in this comparison or HLTV's first comparison from different points before, even biggest CS expert Thoorin agreed that current Vitality is Greatest Team Ever played CS [he gave ever more arguments] and he have watched greatest CS playing CS for 25 years from 2000, I can give you link if you want), enough data to see which team is GOAT Sure astralis era was long, but never as dominant as Vitality's Era, which make Vitality GOAT Team
2025-07-27 15:30
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All Im saying is that Vitality and Astralis "peak" aint even compareable since astralis peak lasted for 1.5y+ which makes it laughable to compare with vitality who just started and can end at any point
2025-07-27 19:10
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Their peak didn't even last that long, AND MOST IMPORTANT: Vitality have given new standard what even is Era and astralis never achieved it, not even in their best season
2025-07-27 19:17
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all that BLASTralis thing doesn't really shows the impact of Astralis on CS scene, I don't think Liquid could ever come near to them if it wasn't for that tournament skippings. it's too soon to compare them, based than more bo3 wins :))
2025-07-26 16:00
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agree, liquid were so lucky they didnt face astralis many times. Not many people know that, and even less remember
2025-07-27 00:45
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true, they got their 15 mins fame cause Astralis skipped competitions left and right then there are some people saying they were the best team in the history of CSGO =))))))))
2025-07-27 10:17
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astralis skipped tournaments because they didn't have Team Vitality high skill level and stamina, astralis was weak so they skipped few tournaments to play stronger in rest (which is weak tactic that cannot be respected), Vitality played all but one, which they couldn't get to, and still Vitality did way more solid and better than Astralis on their prime season 💪 👽 There is reason why all experts say current Team Vitality is GOAT of all CS 👽
2025-07-27 15:38
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nice emojis, with this knowledge of CS; never get into debate with anyone.
2025-07-27 15:44
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yeah, nobody respect thooorin's knowledge he just accidentally can get to any event as top expert on CS when he want to join you clearly are master of logic ;)
2025-07-27 16:28
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what's with all these blanks? :)))) thooorin :)))))))))))) funny kiddo
2025-07-27 18:00
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I give you 1/8 for trying 🤣 My generation was way smarter and sneaker at your age, what happened to your generation is when your mommy and dads use smartphones all the time, this (Mkn021) is what consequences from that 🤣
2025-07-27 18:04
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I didn't want to fuck with u but I'm pretty sure that you are a kid :))) way smarter and sneaker? mf where u learn to write and speak? orphanage? some 00s kids trying to play cool and older than his self in internet while 80s here laugh in your father's face. all you can give me is your mother's number, maybe I can get you a new brother, with proper manners ofc, all the HLTV saw what your father did to you. GTFOH before I become more furious with your ugly a** and tear you a new one.
2025-07-27 18:13
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ahahhhaha, priceless, 8/8^^ PS: Didn't even read your long text, but thanks for writing it ;)
2025-07-27 18:54
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GTFOH kidd :))) don't +1 yourself useless :))))
2025-07-27 19:46
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hahaahhahaha, this really is priceless ^^
2025-07-27 19:54
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+1 yourself useless =)))
2025-07-28 14:22
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Poor mouz
2025-07-26 17:38
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Fluke team
2025-07-27 19:19
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