xertioN: "I don't care if we're No. 2, 3 or 4"

xertioN talks NAVI comebacks, getting off to a strong start in the new season and the goal to finally challenge Vitality for trophies.

MOUZ have kicked off the season with a run straight to the IEM Cologne playoffs, beating Liquid and Natus Vincere on the way to the winners' match against Spirit in Group B.

If they were rusty following their return from the break, it was not apparent outside of slow starts into both first halves against NAVI.

Dorian "⁠xertioN⁠" Berman spoke to HLTV following the team's qualification for the LANXESS Arena, admitting NAVI surprised MOUZ with their new addition, Drin "⁠makazze⁠" Shaqiri.

"They caught us off-guard, especially on the Mirage T side. They brought a lot of fire and momentum we didn't expect from the beginning, so we had to claw back twice," the Israeli said.

"They changed quite a lot, actually. makazze is a good raw individual, and I think they're using him a bit aggressively. It's very different from jL in their lineup before, and we can see they changed some positions."

The Israeli went on to talk about taking the fight to Vitality this season, and the rest of the scene changing around the top two teams of the first half of the year.

Congratulations, you're straight through to the playoffs at IEM Cologne. Two maps against NAVI, but both tough ones, I would imagine. Tell me about it and how it was from your side - second halves you had to pull off some comebacks.

I think we've been pretty good this year already at comebacks. I think they caught us off-guard, especially on the Mirage T side they played, I think they played really well. They brought a lot of fire and momentum we didn't expect from the beginning, so we had to claw back twice. I'm happy we did, but they really put up a fight for us today.

Was it difficult to prep for them? Obviously, they come into this tournament with a new lineup, a new setup with some changes.

Yeah, that's one of the pros you have as a new team with a new player. I think they changed quite a lot, actually. That guy, makazze, I think he's a good raw individual, so I think they're using him a bit aggressively.

I think it's very different from jL in their lineup before, and also Nuke we can see they changed some positions. Obviously they will play a bit different, and, yeah, it was hard to expect how they were playing.

The first tournament of the season is never easy, especially when it's a big one like IEM Cologne. How did you approach this preparation heading into this tournament?

At the bootcamp, at the beginning we were trolling a bit, whiffing a lot and the communication was terrible after the player break. But towards the end of the bootcamp we regained our form, and I think that we improved in a lot of our ways in terms of communication especially.

We came really prepared for this tournament. We knew that we're still one of the top teams, of course, and I'm happy we proved it once again.

I think we'll have a really good challenge tomorrow to see what our level is for the playoffs in the moment. It will be the best test we've had so far, no matter if it's gonna be Aurora or Spirit, in my opinion. We feel ready, we feel confident, and I'm happy we are qualified for the playoffs once again.

Heading into this off-season, obviously most of the teams changed around you, but you and Vitality remained as one of the few that didn't. Do you see that as an advantage heading into the new season, having all this work behind and a head start going into Cologne?

Of course, I think it is an advantage. We were also decently close to beating Vitality in some matchups we had last season. We know that they're gonna keep improving, we need to improve even more because they're obviously better than us at the moment. Not starting from the bottom like we did last season with Lotan, it's really nice because the last season we came with a new player, we had to change the system up a lot.

Coming into this season we don't need to do that, and now we can work a lot more on our communication and mini details in the game that I think we lack compared to Vitality. We're just working on things round by round and thing by thing, and hopefully there will be enough power for us to beat Vitality at least once this season.

What about the rest of the teams, though? Falcons is a big one that everyone's looking at and take the next step, you just played NAVI, Spirit is another one that tried to upgrade in the new season. Do you feel like it's gonna come as a bigger challenge for that second spot behind Vitality and for trophies?

Yeah, of course. We also thought that before when m0NESY joined Falcons suddenly in the middle of the season, but I think you never know what they will show.

I think Falcons need time with kyousuke. I think he's an incredible talent, you can already see it, also in practice he was shooting really well. They need some time, but I'm always going to be a bit worried about these teams. They can always bring really, really good games to the table. Falcons maybe gave Vitality the biggest fight in the games between them.

We're never gonna underestimate anyone - I don't care if we're No. 2, 3 or 4 in people's opinion. The most important thing is to be No. 1. We're a bit far from it right now and we just have to keep working.

Kosovo Drin 'makazze' Shaqiri
Drin 'makazze' Shaqiri
Age:
18
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
400
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.71
Israel Dorian 'xertioN' Berman
Dorian 'xertioN' Berman
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
684
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
#1
Faceit plus user Faceit level 10 Old school: User been here for more than 10 years  | 
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Poland Astoner55
Respectable mindset but honestly being #2 with Vitality as #1 is not a shame at all
2025-07-29 09:47
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Reality is that all teams except for Vita and Mouz are actually bad. Mouz is a good team and then Vita are just better.
2025-07-29 11:19
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MOUZ ARE BAD . They will soon learn what kicking goat future star igl SIUHEJ is going to do to them . Bye bye top 2 , top 3 , top 4 or even top 5 . enjoy baiter spinx . Regards
2025-07-29 12:07
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i think shuhey turned out to be a fraud they are even better without him and lulquid is even worse with shuhey
2025-07-29 13:07
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expected take from a ohne enjoyer
2025-07-30 03:45
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flair
2025-07-30 19:47
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United States devcat
Spirit are on par with Mouz.
2025-07-29 12:11
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Donk may be on par with Mouz. Spirit? No.
2025-07-29 12:22
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United States devcat
It's ok to be wrong.
2025-07-29 12:33
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I'm not sure, they haven't won against them
2025-07-29 13:12
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United States devcat
They literally have lmao.
2025-07-29 13:12
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Not enough times to say that Spirit is a contender at the same level
2025-07-29 13:14
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United States devcat
They just 2-1'd Mouz. Is that enough lol?
2025-07-29 20:00
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Honeymoon with Zweih, hugs, Liquid will be relevant one day
2025-07-29 20:19
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United States devcat
Can't believe you're salty about this lmao. Average HLTV user behavior. Grow up dude. Spirit and Mouz are on par point blank period.
2025-07-29 20:42
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Sweden her0o
sh1ro stepped upp, they added zweih, the only problems now are that zontix is inconsistent under pressure and chopper can't seem to shoot and call at the same time like apex/brollan, other than that they're a very solid team right now and might as well go to finals if the weather is right
2025-07-30 05:38
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if vita was as "bad" as last year, all these teams would compete for titles and everyone would go on how competetive the scene is and how well everyone is playing (just like last year)
2025-07-29 12:48
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if ropz didn't join vitality 2025 would have been the most competitive year yeah
2025-07-29 13:08
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Not really. Just the quality of CS is kind of low atm
2025-07-29 13:30
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wdym the quality is low, you need to play really good both as team and individual to even stand a chance against generational talents like donk. Mouz is better than ever, Vitality has been more dominant in 2025 than even prime astralis was, they played incredible cs both as individuals and especially as a team, falcons are building superteam after superteam with all the best players of the present and past, mongolz are the hardest hitting team cs has ever seen, old faze clan was a joke compared to how hard they hit. Sure, teams like faze, liquid etc are not at the top but that doesn't mean the quality of cs isn't good. If we still had csgo we could also see how good all of these teams and players are but sadly in cs2 almost everyone looks like a bot when the opponent runs and guns
2025-07-29 13:42
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Don't even bother responding to dumb shit like that. They've been saying it every year since 2012. Whether it's farmers era, roster changes, top players injuries/breaks(olof, device), astralis dominating which means everyone else is shit, online era, etc. They will come up with whatever excuse to fit their garbage narrative.
2025-07-29 15:08
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W comment
2025-07-29 18:18
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The best players to ever touch the game are all currently playing
2025-07-29 15:39
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Says a lot about the current state of cs
2025-07-29 17:11
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Current state? I said they are the best to ever play. Which means competitively it's at the highest state.
2025-07-30 06:50
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Individuals who are best to ever play. From the perspective of team cs and the quality of it, pro cs is kind of bad atm
2025-07-30 08:23
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ngl teams are so weak right now if this mouz roster is #2
2025-07-29 16:56
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Kazakhstan Shingis2kk
you will be 5th anyway
2025-07-29 09:48
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with zweih being worse than magixx and falcons losing to brazilian teams in groups no chance they aren't atleast 3rd
2025-07-29 10:22
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"The Israeli" taking me out lwk
2025-07-29 09:48
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Italy PavIusha
Dori beast
2025-07-29 09:48
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no aura
2025-07-29 09:50
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Ok xertion, I dont think anyone asked but the interviewer
2025-07-29 09:51
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United States post_poster
Interviewer: "Do you feel like it's gonna come as a bigger challenge for that second spot behind Vitality and for trophies?" Xertion: "Nobody asked"
2025-07-29 09:54
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Portugal MUTIRIS_VAC_SHOT
I once saw this man being asked what his favorite food was and he replied "Pasta". The interviewer thought that couldn't be it so he asked "what kind of Pasta" to which xertion replied "any kind of pasta".
2025-07-29 09:52
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In an interview mid event when xertion is constantly playing ,the interviewer asks him about his favorite food instead of anything relevant… Yet xertion is the problem here somehow ?
2025-07-29 10:28
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roman | 
Portugal MUTIRIS_VAC_SHOT
it wasn't mid event, it was something on mouz's channel my reply doesn't frame xertioN as the problem in anyway
2025-07-29 10:45
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Ok
2025-07-29 10:43
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honestly sums up his personality, he seems like a boring guy
2025-07-30 05:49
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Niger c4ptain
"I don't care if we're No. 2, 3 or 4, I just have to accept the fact that we are never going to be number 1"
2025-07-29 10:18
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Russia mr_c
Yeah not hard to tell
2025-07-29 10:40
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ewww
2025-07-29 11:25
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Nobody cares about anything anymore, we get it kids
2025-07-29 12:00
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Korea garukno
Musang King Dorian
2025-07-29 12:01
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that's the most Mouz answer possible XD
2025-07-29 12:53
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Sweden Vrede
auraless
2025-07-29 12:58
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Finland Emvi
Misleading af title. Which is also a shame considering tiktok children do not read past the header
2025-07-29 13:26
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yeah the title is grossly misleading
2025-07-29 15:17
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United States fatamerican
what a youthful smile
2025-07-29 15:11
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Estonia blees_
the grapes are sour
2025-07-29 15:20
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Poland SebL
I think the best chances for MOUZ will come in the first few events of this season, maybe even in this one, sure challenging Vitality is one thing, but the upgraded Spirit roster with time may also be a massive challenge for them, if MOUZ wants to win a trophy I think they've got the best shot at doing it here, seems like it will be hard to find better chances, GL boys!
2025-07-29 20:03
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Other FGsouL
Do you know why? Because theese people are only care about money.
2025-07-30 23:46
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