ESL denies Lions-redCode rematch

2-3-2011 14:38

The Electronic Sports League has told HLTV.org that the match between Lions and redCode will not be replayed.

After Group B came to an end last night, the Swedish team filed a complaint to the tournament admins after learning the former WeMade FOX had used illegal settings.

Under German law, CS competitions cannot use blood settings, which means that even after you have killed an opponent, you will not see blood coming out of their body.

However, redCode managed to play the entire event with blood settings on, which Lions feel that was an advantage to the Koreans.

The Swedish team finished their group in fourth place, and the 16-8 defeat to redCode in their final group match deprived them of a place in the playoffs.

In case of beating redCode in the rematch, they would leapfrog fnatic and Na´Vi in Group B and advance to the relegation stage.

The ESL acknowledged that that redCode's use of blood settings was unfair, but stated there is nothing in the rulebook that says a match has to be replayed in light of a situation like this.

right choice

2011-03-02 14:39

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-1

2011-03-02 15:04

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-1

2011-03-02 15:07

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I have a hard time figuring out if you agree with him or disagree. because your -1 counteracts his -1 and becomes a 0...

2011-03-02 15:16

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-1

2011-03-02 15:18

fail :S

2011-03-02 15:19

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-1-(-1)=0

2011-03-02 15:21

5 replies

but it's -1+(-1) lol

2011-03-02 16:13

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if you think about it he could mean -1 of what was said earlier. like if he would have said +1 he could have ment that he liked the -1 :)

2011-03-02 16:17

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ur right ! he said -1 like the other one to support it, and to be -2, or he said -1 not to support the other one and it becomes 0 . haha . i go mad with those -1 +1 0 +23491734

2011-03-02 16:35

admit it you failed

2011-03-02 16:34

+1 true

2011-03-02 20:49

Your math is strong!

2011-03-02 16:46

if its -1-1 it equals -2... where did you learn math from?

2011-03-04 08:05

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read my respons to n3o95 ( #143 )

2011-03-04 09:21

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I was gunna put something up on this but I decided to kill the bs

2011-03-10 20:53

2011-03-02 15:08

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-1

2011-03-02 15:12

2011-03-02 15:29

not

2011-03-02 16:31

-1 SaD...If the result affects the top of the group then it seems quite UNFAIR :( and if there is no rule in rulebook then its time to CREATE & start the new ERA :| i think if it would be rematch then LION could be on the top of GROUP :| zzzzzzzzzzzz ...

2011-03-03 04:07

-11111111 rules r made to be follow dats unfair

2011-03-03 09:19

2011-03-02 14:40

lol

2011-03-02 14:40

desperet time requires desperate mashures :D

2011-03-02 14:41

3 replies

How can you spell the same word entirely different in the same sentence? LOL

2011-03-02 18:09

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typo, dont need to make fun of it :P

2011-03-02 22:50

you made my day

2011-03-02 18:19

An advantage, yes... Why have they lost all their matches so? F***ing whiners.

2011-03-02 14:42

4 replies

What? :D

2011-03-02 15:21

lions only lost 2 out of 5 matches? :S

2011-03-02 16:03

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He's talking about the koreans, that is said to had this advantage and even so managed to lost 4 of 5 matches.

2011-03-02 17:49

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aha ok sry, I misinterpreted it.

2011-03-03 17:49

looser

2011-03-02 14:42

playing with blood is a serious advantage!!!

2011-03-02 14:42

15 replies

it actually can be

2011-03-02 14:44

14 replies

do explain

2011-03-02 14:54

13 replies

you can get a hint of someone behind a corner if you hs him and the blood spills

2011-03-02 14:58

12 replies

thats not much of a advantage tbh.

2011-03-02 15:07

7 replies

what about awp in the leg?

2011-03-02 15:08

4 replies

go watch the demo and tell me how many times that happen

2011-03-02 15:16

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Thats like having aimbot and saying, well i only used it twice in the game so stop whining lol.. if it was 16-12 i would have said re-match, but it would have been stupid to rematch after a 16-7 win.

2011-03-02 15:50

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whining? jesus christ, there are only kids around here, its unbeliable..

2011-03-02 16:09

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blood on the walls can see that somebody is low hp, for me to see blood gives me some kind of momentum

2011-03-02 18:33

try it..its big advantage

2011-03-02 16:50

1 reply

i agree at first i wasnt seeing it :)

2011-03-02 16:58

also makes some sound so

2011-03-02 15:07

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somethimes you are not able to hear it, so blood will tell you..

2011-03-02 16:49

yeah. or if you headshot someone with glock. Anyways this law is retarded. One of the biggest CS event suffers from some stupid law. Shame.

2011-03-02 15:10

2011-03-02 16:50

Rules are made to be followed, grow some damn balls admins..

2011-03-02 14:42

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2011-03-02 14:43

They actually followed the rules.

2011-03-02 14:54

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They followed the lack of rules. redcode broke the rules but there was no penalty for such abuse.

2011-03-02 15:00

2 replies

They followed the lack of rules. ....ahm okay..what? ok

2011-03-02 16:53

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My bad :D bad english EDIT: as a reply to 'they followed the rules', I just countered it :D

2011-03-02 18:40

Its German Law so I doubt they were aware they were doing anything wrong.

2011-03-02 15:05

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Well, not knowing a rule shouldn't be an escuse.

2011-03-02 15:17

5 replies

but what about an excuse?

2011-03-02 15:23

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= D Meh

2011-03-02 15:34

Yeah thats true but what are redcode gonna do about it? If they didn't know they cant help that. It's just unfortunate for Lions.

2011-03-02 16:03

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Well, they should have a management that read the rules for them. I'm not saying that I support Lions complaint, but not knowing a rule can NEVER be an excuse.

2011-03-02 17:11

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I don't understand what you mean by an excuse? Lions are the ones using it as an excuse for their loss. Redcode have nothing to complain about since they got away with it. Do you mean they shouldn't of been excused by ESL? Excuse the misunderstanding :P

2011-03-02 17:18

yeah especialy when koreans could be finaly punished... im surprised that they actualy didnt check any demo of some def bomb abuse or something like that.. oh wait they surely did :D and once again somehow they are out without any problems pff

2011-03-02 16:27

Isnt fairplay one of the rules in the rulebook? And doesnt it say that you have to play with the ESL gui? And not change any settings except sens binds and such? (which redcode obviously did)

2011-03-02 14:43

how the fuck did they go a whole event using illegal settings?? fail by esl admins

2011-03-02 14:43

when you smell blood you know your opponent is hurting!

2011-03-02 14:43

Can any explain to me, why it is a advance to play with this on, as lions claims it to be?

2011-03-02 14:44

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When u hs someone, leg with awp etc

2011-03-02 14:45

Well you can't really tell you have hit someone, or HS'ed someone etc. Since there is no blood.

2011-03-02 14:46

You cant tell if you did a hs on a pistol round for an example, and we both know if you headshot someone with the usp you automaticly draw the aim down to the body and the same with glock, you cant tell if you headshoted there too, and if legshot someone with the AWP, you cant tell because theres no bloodsplash. And you can also see if there is any blood on the wall if you have shot thru a smoke a little earlier, to see if there was a player there, and if he damaged him.

2011-03-02 14:47

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So .. Redcode WERE able to see blood, which they were not allowed to or?

2011-03-02 15:07

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Yes, 3 players from redCode changed the settings (which is not allowed) so they can see the blood. The ESL admins is VERY strict about it, so it suprises me that they dont care about it.

2011-03-02 15:09

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Is it the blood the flies out and lands on the ground and then few seconds later disappears, or the blood that stays on the wall? or both?

2011-03-02 15:15

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I cant tell, but i can guess that they used the settings that is normaly used, so its the same settings as you have (i presume).

2011-03-02 15:22

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Okay :D Really find these rules stupid ..

2011-03-02 15:22

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Yeah, they said that if they were allowed to play with blood then they would have to put the age 18+ on the cebit convetion :/

2011-03-02 15:25

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Omg xDDD Hate those kind of things.. What the hell is the problem if i see some blood? I have tried to cut my self xD

2011-03-02 15:26

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Something with the german government

2011-03-02 15:28

both. imo its a pretty big advantage, especially in pistolrounds, which Lions both lost against redCode.

2011-03-02 16:42

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its an advantage in pistols only... cuz in gunrounds u cant see blood unless you "leg" someone with awp.. and in antieco rounds headshot > kill so what.. anyway hit or not.. u still have to kill him

2011-03-02 16:46

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yea thats basically my point but you must remember the pistols are a huge part of any game... so I really can't understand how the admins have allowed them to play like this ?!

2011-03-02 16:48

FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

2011-03-02 14:44

"there is nothing in the rulebook that says a match has to be replayed in light of a situation like this." Can you read? And redCode don't care if they have penalty points. They are out of the event =)

2011-03-02 14:45

rules are rules, but its lions fault that they didnt drop inferno..

2011-03-02 14:45

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alright its LIONS fault when REDCODE are being dishonest.. tht makes sense to me :)

2011-03-02 14:53

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what a lame excuse that was seriously.. lions didnt remove inferno cause they didnt want to.. right decision tbh

2011-03-02 14:56

Right decision, unfair complaint by LIONS.

2011-03-02 14:46

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unfair complaint? fair complaint, right decision

2011-03-02 14:48

if its ilegal, why not a rematch?

2011-03-02 14:46

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because if Lions wins they pass and fnatic goes home. And the thing here is that the sponsors maybe do care about what teams they want in bracket finals ...

2011-03-02 14:49

tobad loved to see a replay and lions win and go to playofss

2011-03-02 14:47

hahaa, yes it's very big advantage!

2011-03-02 14:47

it isnt that big advantage really,besides codered lost to every other team with the same settings so no point setting up a rematch. Lions,simply need to accept they made a bad map choice.

2011-03-02 14:49

NAVI have greater influence than lions :)

2011-03-02 14:51

rematch would be too much for this, everyone knows that,...

2011-03-02 14:51

point is redCode wouldn't care for the match, an fnatic would be easily out.

2011-03-02 14:52

I bet the rulebook is just a bunch of crap. Doesn't contain any specific punishments or what ever. Fail admins

2011-03-02 14:52

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as always lol. Money is an issue, no organisation would like to spend time and money on a rematch. Fk them

2011-03-02 14:55

They did it the whole tournament so if they replay this one they'll have to replay all of them which isn't a good idea.

2011-03-02 14:52

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They lost all other matches, so no, they wouldn't need to replay the other matches. And RedCode even AGREED to play the match again, I guess ESL is just afraid of Lions winning and sending fnatic home since they have "sent" fnatic through to playoffs.

2011-03-02 14:55

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no its becouse the koreans wouldnt care if they win or lose so that wont be fair for fnatic

2011-03-02 15:04

srry LIONS...u were awesome excepting kHRYSTAL's haircut...ROFL!

2011-03-02 14:52

why can't u use blood settings? it doesn't give any advantages almost.

2011-03-02 14:53

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German law or something ;). But it gives a big advantage. Especially on "high-level"

2011-03-02 14:55

the blood settings, as already said in this topic, tells you when u hs someone. imo it is more important for awpers (they know if they shot the leg or if they did not hit at all) and on pistol/eco rounds (u know when u hs even if u dont kill)

2011-03-02 14:58

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How many blood settings are there?

2011-03-02 15:10

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They are 4: violence_ablood 1 violence_agibs 1 violence_hblood 1 violence_hgibs 1 As usual 0=OFF ,1=ON

2011-03-02 15:19

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Nice

2011-03-02 15:22

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And after a quick search just discovered that there is one more: gl_spriteblend 1 This one affects the blood models detail. The default is 0

2011-03-02 15:25

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this one is illegal anyway(in tournaments) because it shows alot more blood when you hs someone.

2011-03-02 16:43

the real question is WHY IS BLOOD NOT ALLOWED IN GERMAN CS?

2011-03-02 14:53

4 replies

a bit too violent :)

2011-03-02 14:56

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haha o rly? it looks like ketchup

2011-03-02 15:00

actually take a look at this... youtube.com/watch?v=R9T5vUdj_3k

2011-03-02 15:00

maybe to stop them playing cs with real guns in real life

2011-03-02 15:00

16-8 can't be like it decided the match imo ..

2011-03-02 14:58

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suppose that lions won both pistol rounds that would gave 2 rounds to lions then they won redcode eco's round, so they would be tied 16-8, 16-2 = 14-10, 10+4=14 so 14-14

2011-03-03 02:03

Rofl, literally illegal.

2011-03-02 15:01

lol

2011-03-02 15:02

lol...

2011-03-02 15:01

najs ! GO WIN LIONS ! Korean ....

2011-03-02 15:02

Lions got right

2011-03-02 15:03

are they talking about gl_spriteblend 0 here?

2011-03-02 15:04

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no violence_ablood "1" violence_agibs "1" violence_hblood "1" violence_hgibs "1"

2011-03-02 15:14

Thats pathetic from Lions. Shame on them

2011-03-02 15:04

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Yeah, shame on Lions for trying to follow the rulebook!

2011-03-02 15:08

remember wcg 2007? e-STRO vs MYM hltv.org/?pageid=135&userid=207271&blogi..

2011-03-02 15:26

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I was thinking the same, it's not the first time that this team use ilegal settings or smthng like that, i also remember this illegal defuse that disqualified EG, youtube.com/watch?v=T6V1RgLCjjI This team does these kind of things on purpose, they know i'ts illegal, thats why i dont want them to win anything.

2011-03-03 01:18

solo said they agreed to replay the matches and it wasn't intentional, they copy pasted their configs as always and didn't realize this blood rule as it doesn't take place in any other tournament or country.

2011-03-02 15:07

RedCode should get disqualified and loose all there matches on WO

2011-03-02 15:07

on one hand lions shouldnt have picked inferno and everything would be fine for them(probably),and on the other this korean team always uses unfair advantage and everytime they dont get punished for it(wcg07 against norwegian team,illegal defuse by termi,now this) :S

2011-03-02 15:07

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wcg 2007 was four years ago for gods sake get over it already. The illegal defuse happens and lots of teams have done it even your beloved fnatic and sk. They explained the situation on fps korea and agreed to what ever decision esl chooses to make so it's not their problem anymore.

2011-03-02 15:10

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well the thing is MY beloved fnatic and sk are not followed by this much controversy,and who cares wcg2007 was 4 years ago,unfair is unfair you get over it :D

2011-03-02 15:15

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What controversy? this has nothing to do with redcode really, they agreed to what ever decision esl choose to make. It's an uncommon rule it's not like they went out to exploit an advantage, I love how many people on this site are uneducated and overly xenophobic.

2011-03-02 15:17

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im not talking about this issue and i do agree this time it wouldnt be fair if there was a rematch,i'm just saying most of the time there is some controversy redcode are smacked in the middle of it :D as for xenophobic , you couldnt be much further from the truth and even mentioning that means you are closeminded as fuck.

2011-03-02 15:41

bad choice. (Maybe it's because Lions is my fav. team) ;D

2011-03-02 15:10

If LIONS WINS, FNATIC IS ELIMINATE? ;>

2011-03-02 15:11

AGAIN losee Lions noobs

2011-03-02 15:11

1.SK 2.Na'Vi 3.Lions fnatiiiiiiiic nooooooooo

2011-03-02 15:12

To be fair, it's a pretty uncommon rule, it's quite possible that they didn't know about it. And i'm pretty sure at an event like this that several ESL admins would of noticed that they had blood settings on while they were playing, (as admins have to watch the games being played to prevent ghosting etc), and didn't do anything about it/realise they shouldn't of had blood on.

2011-03-02 15:12

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the things is that ESL didnt tell Red Code that they wasn't allowed to play with blood so the fault is the ESL admins. and RedCode agreed to do a rematch its just that if ESL allow this rematch then they more or less need to re play all of RedCodes matches and that ESL dont want.

2011-03-02 15:19

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No, because they LOST the other matches and the blood gives them an ADVANTAGE, not disadvantage. Meaning they shouldn't be rewarded any rematches, it's Lions who should be rewarded with a rematch.

2011-03-02 15:40

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you are correct

2011-03-02 15:59

GOOD CHOICE BY ESL

2011-03-02 15:14

what a nice organization!!! so long delays, everybody can ignore the rules.nicE! follow your way ...

2011-03-02 15:14

hahahaha esl big fail again!!

2011-03-02 15:15

advantage wtf. dey got pwned by all da etams very badly and u say dey had an advantage . OMFG CRY MORE LIONZ

2011-03-02 15:16

Okey so the rules doesn't matter just because they haven't written anything about what would happend, if they break them.

2011-03-02 15:16

Bhahahahaha How much time it took to find SOMETHING to complain about? -100 Lions.

2011-03-02 15:18

koreans broke the rule , but why rematch it ? how it help them to win this match ?:) its not doping which help you to get better place , they broke the rule and i think they should pay some cash for it or something ...good decision by esl :)

2011-03-02 15:19

#100 - They complained 5 mins after the game, but the admin "forgot" about it...

2011-03-02 15:19

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Dude... This complain is just gay.

2011-03-02 15:25

It's a difference between german law and esl rules, OBVIOUSLY. If lions really think redcode won just because of that, ofcourse they should do a complain, but this is just embarassing.

2011-03-02 15:20

#94 it's actually -2, not 0.

2011-03-02 15:23

It's a good call imo. If they called a rematch it would be such a fail. If a match is played on the stage there are some peoples from esl(i guess) behind the players, so i think they are there to check and execute if someone break the rules. This is the only situation to rematch imo. It's a admin fail, but to call a rematch would be just worser. Sry for my not perfect english ;)

2011-03-02 15:24

hahaha Lions BOT's

2011-03-02 15:24

In case there would be a rematch and they won, they would be backstabbin fnatic real bad :D

2011-03-02 15:29

fail sadness ;o

2011-03-02 15:29

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMG!

2011-03-02 15:33

Gux yelling rematch to get fnatic out :P

2011-03-02 15:37

2011-03-02 15:39

If they broke the German law the police should arrest them! Let them suffer in PRISON!! Stupid law lol

2011-03-02 15:40

Under German law, CS competitions cannot use blood settings lol0l0l0lolololol

2011-03-02 15:44

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yeah, it's because we are mentally unstable and highly amok-endangered. you should also check out our css version youtube.com/watch?v=vkUuABNnTC0 or our Left4Dead Cover pcgames.de/screenshots/original/2008/10/..

2011-03-02 16:02

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IN federal germany, video game characters dont bleed

2011-03-02 16:23

HHAHAHAHAAH HOLY SHIT i never knew about the css version :D

2011-03-02 16:45

Lame excuses to be honest. Lions should lose with dignity at least.

2011-03-02 15:54

if they had moddii in their lineup, they wouldve come top of their group same goes for any of the swedish teams karma

2011-03-02 15:58

bb lions dont cry boys

2011-03-02 16:11

girls

2011-03-02 16:17

thats German rule, not ESL rule. so, all losers go straight into warm bed.

2011-03-02 16:28

real question is why didnt the police raid the place? there were korean gamers with blood ON!

2011-03-02 16:28

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yea they are lucky the koreans didnt go beserk and kill all the teams ranked higher than them.

2011-03-02 16:45

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You guys are confusing North and South :D

2011-03-02 18:41

Some last moment desperate effort from LIONS to salvage something out of this terrible situation. Glad that they failed miserably. What the fuck is this reason really!

2011-03-02 16:38

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First they had that ilegal defuse situation that nobody cared. Now they use ilegal settings that they shouldn't. Once again nobody cares. Really? You don't see anything wrong here?

2011-03-02 17:05

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Talk about illegal defuse when it happens. Here it didn't. Invoking rules like blood settings reeks of desperateness and inability to accept what just happened. That's a lame attempt.

2011-03-03 10:39

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I don't even care about the decision that ESL made. I mean, what would they do? My point is that when it comes to the koreans, they always let it go...

2011-03-03 17:05

if you just knew what kind of crap estro/redcode could put other teams through a couple of years back..

2011-03-02 21:30

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I know what you are talking about. I have been following the scene as long as you. But in this case fighting over blood settings is pure fail. You can't invoke some other match controversy to settle this one. That's just wrong.

2011-03-03 10:40

if u dont understand a reason for this your iq must be below the shoe number. redCode used illegal settings , they broke the rules. thats it not much to understand? its almost same like lions would have a model with a penis , and koreans not. think it that way like solo would be sneaking up in the house (inferno) and notices a dick of gux behind the wall , sure he's gonna check there like wtf is this.

2011-03-03 09:05

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You talk about iq, dick, penis and what not. You are so sure of your superiority over the rest of human population that I don't think you are really looking for an answer whenever you state something. You just want people to accept it prima facie. Sad that's not gonna happen here. Illegal settings (which really affect the game in a big way) is one thing and talking about blood settings is another. Anyone who has played CS for long enough will acknowledge that it's a lame attempt. Bye.

2011-03-03 10:46

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well firstly im complete opposite , i dont think im special in any way. Secondly i didnt say if it was lame or not , but it was illegal still. surely they not gonna have a rematch over a blood issue but rules are rules , no matter if it was ghosting , illegal defuse or a blood. you gotta stick to the rules.

2011-03-03 11:00

This was Lions chance. They had a really good perfomance through the group stage. Sad to see them out of the tournament.

2011-03-02 17:03

rules to the rescue

2011-03-02 17:13

1 reply

why should rules elese be there ? If they are not re-enforced

2011-03-02 21:27

Lions sux, get over it noobs.

2011-03-02 17:16

It would be funny if redcode lost, and then made a complaint that they used blood setting, and then got a rematch lmfao. Get over it, they definetly should of dropped inferno and play better against them. Also massive fail from admins not checking, and plus im sure the rulebook is like the size of a harry potter book, and its probably in german/english and you really think every korean knows how to read it >.>

2011-03-02 17:44

1 reply

hahhaha

2011-03-02 21:31

why would they allow a rematch because of some blood settings? of course this is a good decision. bad sportsmanship...

2011-03-02 18:07

its something about koreans and rules that does not go together.

2011-03-02 18:13

The koreans changed the blood settings. it says in the rules that its not allowed. so why should their win count? Lets hope TAZ does what he says and play with it on.

2011-03-02 18:14

Why the fuck are they whining if they won anyways?

2011-03-02 18:28

2 replies

Because they didn't win?

2011-03-02 18:40

1 reply

probably read wrong. idd; as in i read wrong.

2011-03-02 19:58

this is why nobody supports Lions...

2011-03-02 18:45

bail was playing with his eyes closed thats why Lions lost this match.

2011-03-02 18:52

The koreans didnt only break the rules, they broke the law. It's not only against the rules to play with blood, but against the law according to the german law book. So I guess Lions could file a lawsuit if they wanted to bring the matter even further.

2011-03-02 19:09

that that that that

2011-03-02 19:11

they should dq korean team for future events, but not rematch, imo

2011-03-02 19:30

esl gui has the yellowish plasma as a replacement for blood so thats not much diff imho

2011-03-02 20:16

I think it's quite fair that there's no rematch. I don't like redcode, but still i don't think it gave them any advantage at all, playing with blood on.

2011-03-02 20:38

4 replies

What ? 100 times easier to determine if a person is low on health after combat. And Legshots ??? And so on... Ofcourse an significant advantage that should simply not be there..

2011-03-02 21:19

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It was replaced by some yellow plasma liquid thing, so it's the same thing.

2011-03-02 22:06

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if the matter is solely the color of the blood then i would agree on this beeing the correct judgement

2011-03-03 03:00

1 reply

it exactly is that

2011-03-03 10:56

Im sure nothing in the rulebook says about having an Usb Rocket canon by your computer and distracting your oponents. This is cleary an effort to cheat or get an advantage in a way they knew was unfair. I beleive this kind of thinking should be punished. Anyways, any of you remember how much e-STRO whined at every event over practically everything.. Revenge would have been sweet Im sorry for you lions.

2011-03-02 21:17

Under German law, CS competitions cannot use cl_righthand 1 settings, which means that even after you have killed an opponent, you will not see gun in his right hand. strange laws imo

2011-03-02 21:17

Koreans doing shady things in tournaments is nothing new and has been around for years. They will do what ever they can to win or get the advantage like when the crouch hopped for the entire tournament and then called others out on it. The have been caught ghosting before and numerous other BS like boosts, illegal flash, illegal defuses, and ect. Here are some. hltv.org/news/1620-e-stro-to-final-after.. hltv.org/news/4318-wemade-fox-stay-at-ar..

2011-03-02 23:44

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dont forget wcg 07

2011-03-03 01:13

under the German Law, cs competitors are forbidden to use the Artic Avenger model on the terrorist side unless your f0restwOw~

2011-03-03 03:18

lol lions nerds? who gives a shit

2011-03-03 05:40

since there is nothing in the rulebook, right decision.

2011-03-03 08:16

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Wouldn't it be an illegal config since those commands are not allowed

2011-03-03 19:32

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in the rulebook are just a few commands which must be used. Such as net_graph 0 or cl_lw 1... the rest is not defined. IEMV Rulebook: part 6.2.2 gfx.esl-europe.net/gfx/media/masters/rul.. Sorry I don't know why all my links are fucked up :/

2011-03-03 20:02