Na´Vi get 13% prize deduction

The ESL has announced that Natus Vincere will have their IEM5 World Championship earnings reduced by 13 percent.

This decision comes after Na´Vi broke the tournament's rules twice in the semi-final clash with mTw earlier today: the first for leaving the stage without permission at halftime of the second map and the second for calling a timeout to go to the toilet.

For the first infringement, Na´Vi have received three minor penalty points, which will deduct 3 percent off their prize, while for the second infraction, they have been given one major penalty point, which sees 10 percent of their earnings being redistributed by the ESL.

This means that, in case Na´Vi beat Frag eXecutors tomorrow and win the first prize of $35,000, the Ukrainian team will lose $4,550. If the Ukrainian giants finish in second place, they will not get $2,210 of the $17,000 they were supposed to score.


Na´Vi lose 13 percent of earnings

Na´Vi manager Aleksander "ZeroGravity" Kokhanovsky expressed his surprise at the decision, saying: "I think it's unfair because we were drinking water and Red bull during the games, so there is the possibility that one has to go to the toilet."

Kokhanovsky added that, after calling a timeout, a team is given three to five minutes, and that it should make no difference if they go somewhere or just stay chatting during that time.

mTw, who will play the third-place decider against SK Gaming tomorrow, will be deducted three percent off their prize money, also for leaving the stage at the interval of the second map.

All the money that is deducted off teams is redistributed among the remaining participants.

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Sweden Gumme
lol
2011-03-04 17:00
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Poland ridds
2011-03-04 17:25
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nice :D
2011-03-04 17:31
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oh nice i should play it!=)
2011-03-04 18:02
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Bosnia and Herzegovina sidde^
omg
2011-03-04 17:00
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#215
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Australia Destiny Khan
oh the tournament is just saving money by lamest possible excuses... they want rules then why the hell is the tournament itself a mess?? what about starting late... what about the most pathetic coverage ever seen in cs history... and what about aweful commentators on their streams??
2011-03-04 17:41
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Portugal CYBERRRR
saving money? please read the news. "All the money that is deducted off teams is redistributed among the remaining participants."
2011-03-04 17:53
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#437
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Australia Destiny Khan
the line wasn't there before... but still it is a sorry ass move to punish someone for going to the toilet... it ain't school examinations man...
2011-03-04 21:33
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#472
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France hemo
Exactly, it's not preschool. They can't hold it for 10mn??
2011-03-05 00:03
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China ntraksharp
how
2011-03-05 02:16
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#487
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China ntraksharp
may cause distraction
2011-03-05 02:18
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#514
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Poland JabLuszko
10mn? You mean minutes? How the hell did you figure out that 2nd half of map will last for 10 minutes? Future Telling! Please predict how long does the first map of the Grand Final will take. Also it is very annoying to play when you need to go toilet. There are two ways to solve this problem. First: If there is break, allow players to go to toilet. Second: Make them all buy diaper/nappy/Pampers. I really prefer the first one :P
2011-03-05 09:41
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#520
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Sweden celoZ
please, just shut the fuck up you faggot, rules are rules.
2011-03-05 10:46
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#573
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Australia Destiny Khan
oh gtfo cunt... i am right... rules are wrong... fuck the rules if they are wrong...
2011-03-07 09:59
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#317
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Portugal Olivier
awesome reading skillz.
2011-03-04 18:24
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#378
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Panama paven
How was the coverage pathetic?
2011-03-04 19:19
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#440
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Australia Destiny Khan
oh come on... the stream was freaking pathetic... the worst i have ever seen.... super laggy and crazy bad in every way.. the only ones which did work had super annoying commentators all non english... lack of hltv as well... don't tell me it was a dream tournament...
2011-03-04 21:34
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I think this tournamnt has been pretty good. There were delays the first day but other than that there hasnt been much. The stream hasn't been lagging at all for me, maybe you need to upgrade your internet i dunno.
2011-03-04 22:41
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#493
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New Zealand leethal
na he's right. the stream worked fine on the first day and second days, but I couldn't watch the semi's because the visual was so lagged you couldnt see anything. these ESL competition are always ruined for me by the semis and final... the games you most want to watch :/ about this thread... that timeout penalty is dumb, if they want to use a TO to go piss it's their choice
2011-03-05 03:27
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Ok, I didnt experience any lag at all, but maybe thats just because im living close to their servers or something(living in sweden). But if it lagged for you then they probably have to put more into it to make the stream work for everyone :) And yeah that rule was stupid. But overall for me it has been a good event, not perfect but I dont think I can remeber ANY perfect event :P
2011-03-05 11:05
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#513
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Poland JabLuszko
"super laggy"? No problems with HD version here:-) "super annoying commentators all non english". Non english? WTF? What stream where you watching? There was RU, PL, ENG, DE stream. Also lurpis from Power Gaming was CO-Hosting english stream, so it was kinda nice.
2011-03-05 09:36
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#574
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Australia Destiny Khan
well you are one of the lucky ones... stream wasn't working well for the people outside europe... such a low quality stream and still lagging... no problem with my internet atleast... and due to lag i had to watch the ru,pl,de stream for many matches... the english stream had the most viewers and so was laggy... and that moronic commentator who was with lurppis...don't know who he was...
2011-03-07 10:03
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#546
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Malaysia geeruff
I'm streaming HD from MALAYSIA and it's smooth as silk. Internet is shitty here so kudos to ESL!
2011-03-05 14:55
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#426
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United States DeGReeS
facepalm
2011-03-04 21:07
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actually... maybe you're rig...Wrong! Because players never said that THE tournament was a mess. until then you can be quiet or troll anywhere else. Second of all the Rules may sound stupid and be stupid. But rules are rules and you, me,or anyone involve, by watching at home or staying in the building, have to respect them. Maybe next time they'll get lucky and change some of the rules to never had to be this way anymore.
2011-03-05 12:44
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#575
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Australia Destiny Khan
that is what i am saying... rules are wrong... change them... and i am just saying...
2011-03-07 10:05
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Slovakia muchac_
no toilet!
2011-03-04 17:01
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#172
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Portugal Olivier
I agree. Hardcore pros don't use toilets. You drink, you piss on the bottle. Na'Vi should know that, come on!
2011-03-04 17:31
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China sunuslee
hahahahahah nice one!man
2011-03-04 18:11
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#355
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Poland zoNk!
+1 :D
2011-03-04 18:49
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Poland tjK
hahaha XD
2011-03-04 19:12
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Ukraine catzz
made my night
2011-03-04 20:12
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Italy vT1X
stupid decisione btw.
2011-03-04 17:01
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Lithuania SocoRRo
ESL want save some money?
2011-03-04 17:02
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CINDER | 
Latvia CINDER
haha, true
2011-03-04 17:03
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Serbia trejnn
Oh.. YES!! :D
2011-03-04 17:06
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#56
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Denmark Nix0n
Nah, the money will be distributed to the other teams attending the event.
2011-03-04 17:09
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#68
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Lithuania SocoRRo
Oh, then it seems fair. Thanks for information.
2011-03-04 17:10
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Argentina NICOLAJZ
true
2011-03-04 17:11
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#78
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France Hakuteiken
"All the money that is deducted off teams is redistributed among the remaining participants."
2011-03-04 17:12
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Lithuania SocoRRo
it was added later after my message :)
2011-03-04 17:13
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France Hakuteiken
Np =)
2011-03-04 17:38
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#194
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India rocky001
they dint save money.... "All the money that is deducted off teams is redistributed among the remaining participants"
2011-03-04 17:36
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#199
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Lithuania SocoRRo
Read what i wrote to a person before.
2011-03-04 17:37
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Poland kokos/<.
lol they have expensive toilets........
2011-03-04 17:02
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Poland Visnia
good one! ;D
2011-03-04 17:03
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Romania Tomy_hh
:))
2011-03-04 19:21
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United Kingdom AnDEh92
ESL think they will put aimbot on there dicks or what , bloody stupid and bloody pathetic from them.
2011-03-04 17:02
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United States ZitroneCs
LMAO!
2011-03-04 18:44
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Russia Slava_slava
ESL... IDI*TS!!!!
2011-03-04 17:02
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s1mple | 
Russia pEndos
+100500!!!!!!
2011-03-04 17:03
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Moldova fln[t]
:DDDDDDD
2011-03-04 22:51
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Poland Czybulia
agree!
2011-03-04 17:04
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#107
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Finland Hattuli
Agree!!!
2011-03-04 17:18
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Xyp9x | 
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+9999
2011-03-04 17:19
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Ukraine pheeks
YES
2011-03-04 18:13
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Poland noobsoNN
hahaa xD
2011-03-04 17:03
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#12
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Romania gonor33
piss time are very expensive..:))
2011-03-04 17:03
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#249
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Pakistan Luckytwice
hahaha
2011-03-04 17:57
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#538
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Ukraine prostosAsHo
:DDD
2011-03-05 13:03
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#13
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s1mple | 
Russia pEndos
Stupid ESL..
2011-03-04 17:03
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Poland Visnia
SHIT IN YOUR PANTS!
2011-03-04 17:03
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Argentina Maiel
that's a lot of lap dances
2011-03-04 17:03
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North Macedonia banne1 [b]
oh god :facepalm:
2011-03-04 17:03
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#17
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Russia grunge
ridiculous pay $4,550 for toilet !_!
2011-03-04 17:05
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#93
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Sweden rubbe
you mean $2,210?
2011-03-04 17:14
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#96
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Russia grunge
will see ;)
2011-03-04 17:15
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#308
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Ukraine chigivarbi4
no...he mean 4550
2011-03-04 18:21
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Portugal iLLeGaL2R
4550cent?
2011-03-04 18:47
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#385
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Lithuania Rambambam
wow, that was a J J J J J JOKE. you should sign for a talent show!!!
2011-03-04 19:35
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Russia grunge
hello :D
2011-03-05 18:19
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Argentina luchoft
hahahah
2011-03-04 17:03
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#19
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Ukraine thisisit
Not fair. If they want to pee, they have to wear Pampers during the games? That's a full nonsense and rubbish!
2011-03-04 17:04
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#91
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Greece GolDeN^[NMe]
maybe they didn't have a permission? :O
2011-03-04 17:14
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#497
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Ukraine thisisit
is it school, so u have to ask the teacher whether u can or cannot go out? xD
2011-03-05 03:51
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#517
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Greece GolDeN^[NMe]
:D dunno:O
2011-03-05 10:05
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#412
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Peru SpiritWolf
They wouldn't need to pee so urgently if they weren't drinking stuff ? Like I always see Na'Vi drinking lots of Red Bulls, its their fault for doing that.
2011-03-04 20:45
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#496
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Ukraine thisisit
Not Red Bull, but mineral water.mtw went away as well, mb cuz they drink water too? oO
2011-03-05 03:50
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Czech Republic SirAster
=DDDDDD roflcopter
2011-03-04 17:03
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#22
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Lithuania Mantass
SHAME YOU ESL!!! HOLLY SHIT ESL!!!!
2011-03-04 17:03
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#23
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Netherlands Sjon
rules are rules... (y) esl
2011-03-04 17:04
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Ukraine thisisit
Yeah, would u shit in your pants and than stand up before the whole hall of people (and showing u on plazmas (zoom)) to shake your hands or whatever? Nonsense! Every rule has and exception - an this 1 of human needs, that can;t be ignored! T_T
2011-03-04 17:06
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#101
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Singapore hohi
+14555 they are just human , and have u seen their giant water bottles , its natural that you hav to use the bathroom
2011-03-04 17:16
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Slovakia Tri4l
Agree,this rule is just stupid..
2011-03-04 17:19
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#197
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Brazil Qi
esl probably is scared of info given by third person didnt play, sited in front of stage and person who see everything what oponent is doing, so that rule isnt stupid
2011-03-04 17:36
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#179
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Portugal jsantos2
Not every rule has an exception, but this rule is just stupid.
2011-03-04 17:33
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#198
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Brazil Qi
esl probably is scared of info given by third person didnt play, sited in front of stage and person who see everything what oponent is doing, so that rule isnt stupid
2011-03-04 17:36
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#207
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Portugal jsantos2
ESL should buy some toilets near the stage then.
2011-03-04 17:40
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#213
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Brazil Qi
thats another thing, but rule isnt so stupid as u look by my point ;)
2011-03-04 17:41
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#225
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Portugal jsantos2
yeah, if you consider that they talked with someone in the timeout, but if they didn't its unfair.
2011-03-04 17:44
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#223
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Ukraine thisisit
90 % of PERFECT rules have the exceptions. But these are not perfect, besides there always is - "what if". ALWAYS.
2011-03-04 17:44
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Netherlands P|chrisJ
very retarded decision about going to the toilet, but it depends if there are any rules to a time-out? Does anybody know this?
2011-03-04 17:04
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#25
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Poland Czybulia
FUCKIN' ESL :O
2011-03-04 17:04
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United States BioActive
the rules weren't so strict when redcode played with blood turned on
2011-03-04 17:04
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+100%
2011-03-04 17:05
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#59
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World Shinshus
yea but blood in game is shouldnt be restricted poor english sry
2011-03-04 17:09
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It still was breaking the rules, and imo it was more serious than NaVi guy taking a piss
2011-03-04 17:32
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#499
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Finland jonkkis
yea but it may give some advantage, for example if they wallbang and then notice the enemy by the blood or something similar
2011-03-05 03:54
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United States mawgwhy
+1
2011-03-04 17:09
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#67
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United States grayson21
+11111111 Something that actually affects the outcome of the game doesn't get penalized, but something that makes no difference to the match loses them money. I mean going to the bathroom.... seriously?! Just let him shit his pants or what? Stupid ESL.
2011-03-04 17:10
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#221
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Brazil Qi
as i think blood is not a esl rule but germany law? am i right?
2011-03-04 17:42
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#515
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Poland JabLuszko
It is required by German law, but I am pretty sure that ESL included in the 'Rules'.
2011-03-05 09:46
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Denmark datsik
esl going pwnd
2011-03-04 17:04
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#29
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Lithuania Troaflex
Total bullshit.
2011-03-04 17:05
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#30
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Australia Katalyst90
Wow! What's ESL going to deduct money for next? Scratching your ball sack? "NAH GUYS, SCRATCHING YOUR ITCHES IS OFFENSIVE TO SOME PEOPLE, 10% DEDUCTION!!"
2011-03-04 17:05
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#44
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Ukraine thisisit
ahahah u made my day, after Na'Vi's victory xDDD
2011-03-04 17:07
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#129
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Finland Hattuli
:D:D:D:D
2011-03-04 17:21
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#32
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World crooksy
Stupid decision, get real ESL people need toilet breaks when playing over 3 maps.
2011-03-04 17:05
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#33
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Norway WashTub
<3 esl NOT
2011-03-04 17:05
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#34
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Ukraine pitmason
next time : Ceh9 asks for a timeout,stands up and pees from the stage on esl admins, saying : "sorry..rules are rules"
2011-03-04 17:05
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Russia grunge
hahaha
2011-03-04 17:06
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Russia Peepec
AHAHHAH@H@H@HQAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2011-03-04 17:12
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Germany pa$co
+1 xD I thought the same
2011-03-04 17:14
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Ukraine D4N74
AHAHAHHAAHAHHAH HOROSH!
2011-03-04 18:23
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#35
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Germany wolf.
Kokhanovsky added that, after calling a timeout, a team is given three to five minutes, and that it should make no difference if they go somewhere or just stay chatting during that time. I TOTTALY AGREE WITH HIM... and what #19 said...
2011-03-04 17:05
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World Akell4
hmmm... there's nothin' to say ! ESL ...
2011-03-04 17:06
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#39
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Argentina cocoa[t]
lol. hahah god
2011-03-04 17:06
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#40
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United Kingdom Big H
what a joke
2011-03-04 17:06
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#41
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Georgia ProX.
LOOL STUPID DECISION
2011-03-04 17:06
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In stead of reducing the pricemoney they should have deducted rounds. mTw would be in the finals. But since most kiddos here are NaVi fanbois they decided to reduce the price
2011-03-04 17:07
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#66
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Lithuania kexas
You seem so grown up. Aren't you to old for Counter-Strike?
2011-03-04 17:10
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Not playing cs, just having fun with you fanbois and keeping a very succesfull blog laughing at you
2011-03-04 17:13
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#302
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Lithuania kexas
I bet you don't have too much friends because of your ego :) Talking about penalties. Why would they get rounds taken away, if this wasn't an in-game related issue. What you said kind of doesn't make sense.
2011-03-04 18:20
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#82
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Ukraine thisisit
yeah, and whos fanboy r u? =(
2011-03-04 17:12
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I'm a fanboi of me. I'm spectacular
2011-03-04 17:14
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Ukraine thisisit
cool story, bro :D
2011-03-04 17:15
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No but seriously, the normal penalty for breaking the rules is round deduction. But since NaVi gathers a huge audience they managed to keep their spot in the finals. It's the same with the koreans. ESL needs the korean audience, that's why they have gotten away with pitty protests and rulebreaking
2011-03-04 17:20
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#125
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Ukraine thisisit
i wrote earlier.. would u wear a diper?
2011-03-04 17:20
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No I wouldn't. Unless I had taken mushrooms and didn't have a toilet near EDIT: guess your bad english got you :D
2011-03-04 17:23
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#219
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Ukraine thisisit
ESL League is for everyone, so ESL rules are, so then, there be no blood at all - whatever what country players r from - if there are no exceptions -.- By the statement "bad English" u meant that i missed a letter "A" in the diaper? LOL
2011-03-04 17:42
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No I ment "would", I'm guessing you ment to hint I'm wearing diapers, not would I wear :) What comes to ESL rules redcode broke them unpunished, and NaVi and mTw being punished for a lesser violation EDIT: Your english still sucks
2011-03-04 18:09
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#296
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Ukraine thisisit
i mean - if u were a participant of the ESL League and "didn't want to break the rules", would u wear it? my English sucks if r a native speaker English teacher, but sicne u r not, mine -in comparison with your English is perfect ^^
2011-03-04 18:18
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How is my english as bad as yours? "ESL League is for everyone, so ESL rules are, so then, there be no blood at all - whatever what country players r from - if there are no exceptions -.-" That's what we call BAD english And: "i mean - if u were a participant of the ESL League and "didn't want to break the rules", would u wear it?" Meaning what?
2011-03-04 18:42
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#350
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Ukraine thisisit
dude, can't u think logically? omg
2011-03-04 18:47
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How am I not thinking logically?
2011-03-04 19:35
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#498
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Ukraine thisisit
it-diaper etc.
2011-03-05 03:51
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#144
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India prpl_haze
that would be hilarious.. and nixons new title would be "Zues's piss cost him dearly as admins deducted rounds for every drop spilled ?!?! :-s! mTw wins cause ceh9 cant keep his penis in his pants!?!? :-s
2011-03-04 17:24
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Well if ESL decides to put a penalty in effect it's just normal (as the ESL rulebook says) to deduct rounds. But I agree NaVi should not be denied the final spot because of this. But at the same time I find the price reduction ridiculous
2011-03-04 17:30
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#216
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India prpl_haze
how about players get more money every time ESL matches get DELAYED? !?!?!
2011-03-04 17:41
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Do they?
2011-03-04 18:04
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#45
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Germany JoeM
The ESL wont "KEEP" anything. The prize money deducted for PPs is spread around the other teams afaik!
2011-03-04 17:07
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#72
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Russia Leurc
And what's the reason of such move? Teams, who played worse will get more money.. nice
2011-03-04 17:11
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1 reply
#86
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Ukraine thisisit
+100500
2011-03-04 17:13
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#46
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chrisJ | 
Netherlands deemuu
haha
2011-03-04 17:07
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#47
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Estonia undacova
esl fucking cunts, not even surprised how fucking greedy bastards they are
2011-03-04 17:07
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3 replies
As Joe said ESL is not keeping the money but it is contributed to other teams
2011-03-04 17:08
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2 replies
#65
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Estonia undacova
Okay, but this was still completely unneeded, they lose 4500 bucks assuming they win the final, just for going to bathroom? Just shows how retarded organisation esl is
2011-03-04 17:13
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I agree
2011-03-04 17:12
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#48
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Romania chaos4cs
hey ESL...that was just PATHETIC
2011-03-04 17:08
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#49
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Russia AB74P
lol
2011-03-04 17:08
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#50
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World bartek1337
3pp reason ; toilet
2011-03-04 17:08
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#51
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Russia steveNNN
10% for going to the toilet? Seriously, how fcked up is this? Is Carmac walking around CeBIT with urine stains on his pants?
2011-03-04 17:08
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#102
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Europe GR@4
hahahahah
2011-03-04 17:16
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#160
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m0NESY | 
Russia st00rm
LOL
2011-03-04 17:29
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#53
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Bulgaria faithhA
Now i am sure that the most stupid league on the earth is ESL.Guys i need some coders to beat that crap.. srsly..
2011-03-04 17:08
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#103
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Xyp9x | 
Georgia Fatal Fighter
+1 mate F*** ESL
2011-03-04 17:16
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#54
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Ukraine minemax
That sucks. :)
2011-03-04 17:08
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rotfl
2011-03-04 17:08
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hahah this esl is fail from the beggining
2011-03-04 17:09
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#58
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Ukraine space inc.
stupid ESL))))
2011-03-04 17:09
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#61
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India reoparker
we were drinking water and Red bull during the games, so there is the possibility that one has to go to the toilet." CORRECT
2011-03-04 17:09
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#62
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Denmark cresceNt
it isn't like there were warnings right? how riddiculous
2011-03-04 17:09
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#63
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Singapore hohi
if someone has sudden stomach aches or has to use the bathroom urgently ESL just wants them to do it on stage in your pants? pathetic really.
2011-03-04 17:09
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#64
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Germany pa$co
lol ESL rule. Each player must wear a diaper during the tournament.
2011-03-04 17:12
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:D
2011-03-04 17:20
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#69
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World kennywow
In meaning of ESL they needed to piss in empty water bottle, am I right ?
2011-03-04 17:10
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1 reply
#577
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Australia redman3231
good idea!!!
2011-03-08 09:33
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#70
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Portugal burninho
ridiculous..
2011-03-04 17:11
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1 reply
#118
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Finland Hattuli
Indeed...
2011-03-04 17:20
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#71
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Serbia C Y N I C
Omfg,all about benjamins... next time shit your pants Zeus ^^
2011-03-04 17:11
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#74
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Poland Marcines
fail :o
2011-03-04 17:11
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redcode got off with breaking the rules and NaVi being punished for such minor reason. GG ESL
2011-03-04 17:11
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#76
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Albania klay
Real KURWA detected...
2011-03-04 17:12
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#77
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Argentina jotti
ESL SUCKS :S
2011-03-04 17:12
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#81
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Brazil islerocs
Hm? toilet?! Ok. ok... Anti-Doping now!
2011-03-04 17:12
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#83
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Canada +snoper
fuck you ESL :@:@:@ fuck all you esl staff :@
2011-03-04 17:12
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#84
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Russia razor~
Thats a bullshit!
2011-03-04 17:12
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#85
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Algeria Ainerhpozihcs
owned :DD
2011-03-04 17:12
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#87
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World epicfail
i'm lold irl
2011-03-04 17:13
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#90
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World fnatic pls!
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA!!!
2011-03-04 17:13
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#94
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Poland TeddyPL
good, more for FX
2011-03-04 17:14
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#99
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Sweden siMon2kk
So they want him to pee on the stage instead?
2011-03-04 17:15
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1 reply
#150
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Europe 7Y3
next time Na'Vi will do that i hope.. fckn esl
2011-03-04 17:26
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#100
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Finland perunamuusi
ESL is a fucking joke
2011-03-04 17:16
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1 reply
#110
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Finland Hattuli
True.
2011-03-04 17:18
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#104
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World aNdr-
OMG, tomorrow i think all toilets will be empty, audience will be affraid of penalties too..
2011-03-04 17:16
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#105
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Poland Jokerov
Ridiculous rules... koreans played all tournament with blood - no punishment (against rules). You're human - They will took your cash... I almost forget Stream works prefectly...
2011-03-04 17:16
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1 reply
#128
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Romania dEZ1BL
Yes, 2nd penalty, for "infraction", it`s so stupid, when nature calls you must go... I wish the ESL staff to read all these comments :)
2011-03-04 17:23
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#106
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Estonia Artyy
GJ ESL, BUT WE NEED MORE STUPID IDEAS!
2011-03-04 17:18
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3 replies
#124
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Europe 7Y3
yeah.. and this is sad
2011-03-04 17:20
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2 replies
#138
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Estonia Artyy
Gold toilet :S
2011-03-04 17:22
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1 reply
#578
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Australia redman3231
gold toilet? 5 star toilet!.
2011-03-08 09:37
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#108
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Poland perua
shame to fucking esl. first navi wait for they match vs eg because of this over 2h delay and if the "greatest" esl should wait 2 mins there is a big problem. This it's just pathetic with all the streaming problems and delays. Fuck ESL
2011-03-04 17:18
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#109
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Xyp9x | 
Georgia Fatal Fighter
After this accident, no one respect ESL Players are humans, not robots, I guess ESL didn`t know this :) this news makes me mad :|
2011-03-04 17:19
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#111
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Argentina sebaxinho
deduction or reduction?
2011-03-04 17:19
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#112
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Europe 7Y3
anyway ESL is org of stupid morons
2011-03-04 17:19
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1 reply
#121
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Xyp9x | 
Georgia Fatal Fighter
+billion
2011-03-04 17:20
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#114
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Denmark wynn
Ridicolous.
2011-03-04 17:19
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#116
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Ukraine Nzr0
toilet in these days cost so much :P
2011-03-04 17:20
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2 replies
#134
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Europe 7Y3
yea but its not funny
2011-03-04 17:21
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1 reply
#301
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Ukraine Nzr0
for me its funny :D for them i think no.
2011-03-04 18:20
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#119
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m0NESY | 
Russia st00rm
greedy ESL
2011-03-04 17:20
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german shit people
2011-03-04 17:20
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1 reply
#394
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France Emma W.
best people ;)
2011-03-04 20:02
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#123
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Ukraine Jlocb
stupid ESL
2011-03-04 17:20
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#126
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Moldova pashe4ka
ESL FUCK YOU!!!1
2011-03-04 17:21
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one of most ridiculous decision in esport
2011-03-04 17:21
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#130
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Serbia bettt
ye, it's a little bit weird, it doesen't matter if player stand with his team or go to wc
2011-03-04 17:21
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#131
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Spain freesty1er
its simple that esl don't have enough money for prize , so they need some explanation :-) kinda pathetic
2011-03-04 17:21
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maybe they shoud increase price to all teams cuz of longest delay ever seen no?
2011-03-04 17:21
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#135
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Portugal ALCHEMISTGOD
go steal somewhere else ESL esl wanted navi players to piss all over the stage? ahhahahahahaa
2011-03-04 17:21
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2011-03-04 17:22
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6 replies
#151
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Estonia Artyy
2011-03-04 17:27
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2 replies
Mine has definitely more style (besides the right height ::)).
2011-03-04 18:13
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1 reply
#295
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Estonia Artyy
true :)
2011-03-04 18:17
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#154
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Portugal OmaestrO!
ahahah n1
2011-03-04 17:27
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#159
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India prpl_haze
:))
2011-03-04 17:28
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#309
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Lithuania Mantass
+10000 man :DDDDDD
2011-03-04 18:22
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#137
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Latvia SLowN
so stupid, esl hates Na`vi
2011-03-04 17:22
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#139
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Latvia osi
ESL started to sux since they brought in their stream wihout ability to watch matches via HLTV. And what now? Teams have to ask dAkInG Carmac to leave stage during match break time?:)))))
2011-03-04 17:22
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#140
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Slovakia Gordal
how much is for 3th and 4th place?
2011-03-04 17:22
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#141
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Estonia undacova
If this decision won't be changed, I hope whoever made this decision gets his head smashed wide open with an axe asap.
2011-03-04 17:22
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#142
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controlez | 
Russia Illmatic
fuckin' ridiculous.
2011-03-04 17:23
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#143
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Israel Yakut
bullshit
2011-03-04 17:24
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#145
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Poland Qub!c
rofl I would like to see someone taking a piss on stage during the final xDDD
2011-03-04 17:25
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#146
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World jan.cz
so basically losers will get more money because of this 'toilet-break' ? coool........or maybe not
2011-03-04 17:25
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#149
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Russia Leurc
ESL just wants to put the meaning of "nolife" to a new level xD
2011-03-04 17:26
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1 reply
#162
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Europe 7Y3
hahaha fuckin true :}}
2011-03-04 17:29
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#152
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Taiwan albertowang
Agree with the first penalty but the second wtf? doesn't a team gets to do whatever he wants to do in that time out as long as is within the 5 minutes? or is it because they don't want the players contact with anyone not involved in the match? anyways next time just pee there, you're not the ones cleaning it anyways XD
2011-03-04 17:27
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#155
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Ukraine bodos
OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLO
2011-03-04 17:27
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#156
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Romania dEZ1BL
2011-03-04 17:38
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4 replies
#175
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Xyp9x | 
Georgia Fatal Fighter
:D
2011-03-04 17:32
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#195
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Slovakia PAIN.N
:D
2011-03-04 17:36
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#208
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Romania dEZ1BL
2nd picture...is from CeBIT 2012.
2011-03-04 17:40
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#579
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Australia redman3231
comfortable chair. no piss -> piss in chair
2011-03-08 09:46
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#157
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Austria Arborion
Personally I would drink 5 bottles of water during the next stage match and just piss in the middle of that stupid stage. ESL is just a joke!
2011-03-04 17:28
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#158
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Bosnia and Herzegovina KillaOR
LOOOOL, if i was some of Na'Vi member i would, tomorrow during the final game, drink a 3l of water and than stand on the chair and pee on those intel proccesors and computers.. You can't forbide someone to go on toilet o.O
2011-03-04 17:28
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#161
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Russia evrikanzor
FUCKING ESL!
2011-03-04 17:29
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#163
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Poland Lanvin
ahhahaa what a non sens
2011-03-04 17:29
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#165
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Faroe Islands leetisch
why so hi lang skills? reduction could sound better
2011-03-04 17:30
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#166
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Sweden Vilseledd
what's the problem to pee in between games? Call pause for a toilet visit is quite strange, you need really fragile bladder if you can't hold it in l o l
2011-03-04 17:30
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4 replies
How is pausing to take a pee strange?
2011-03-04 17:35
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3 replies
#212
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Sweden Vilseledd
if you have ever played a clan war yourself you know that it's possible to hold it in unless it goes on like forever (in which case you'll have breaks to go anyway)
2011-03-04 17:41
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1 reply
Dude when you drink water and energy drinks when you gotta go you gotta go :D
2011-03-04 17:55
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#580
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Australia redman3231
2011-03-08 09:50
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scandal
2011-03-04 17:30
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pretty much money, but its fair, you can take a "toilet" visit and check some demos or something like that while game is on. Its not right.
2011-03-04 17:31
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#185
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Europe 7Y3
demos? WHAT FCKN DEMOS? L@L epic...
2011-03-04 17:34
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well not maybe demons, but you could do other stuff you shouldn't do while you playing on stage infront of people. Would you like to see a fotball match when players just disappear for toilet when they feel for it? is that right?
2011-03-04 17:44
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#190
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m0NESY | 
Russia st00rm
o rly? Do you think navi didnt watch mtws demos before match?
2011-03-04 17:35
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Yeah NaVi took a few minute break to watch mTw demos :D:D Sure that happened
2011-03-04 17:39
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#306
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Serbia Relja
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL EPIC FAIL
2011-03-04 18:21
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#325
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Taiwan albertowang
lol demos no, maybe get some tips from people that aren't involved in the match, For example, fnatic, complexity and other teams are surely watching the match and they can see each players monitor from the spectators zone, so they know what type of strategies are the teams using most. there's a little bit of a chance that they pass that information to navi
2011-03-04 18:29
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#170
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Latvia SHERLOCKTT
stupid esl
2011-03-04 17:31
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#174
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Ukraine Heiko
Lol :D
2011-03-04 17:32
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#177
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India pfx
imba! RULES!
2011-03-04 17:32
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#178
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United Kingdom saM-
Denying someone to go to the toilet is like denying someone the right to breathe.
2011-03-04 17:32
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#180
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Russia dothaM
Yea STUPID ESL. I'm not fan of Na`Vi. I don't want Na`Vi to win a final match. But I respect them.
2011-03-04 17:33
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#181
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Belgium  seulf0rce
ESL,you guys suck tbh.
2011-03-04 17:33
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#182
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Latvia cable
ESL are morons..
2011-03-04 17:33
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#183
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World epicfail
watching demos in toilet during 3-5 min break? sounds so real!
2011-03-04 17:34
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yeah its sounds like a perfect plan:D
2011-03-04 17:35
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#184
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m0NESY | 
Russia st00rm
ahaha next time navi should pee on esl staff on the stage and computers imo they should change rules
2011-03-04 17:34
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#186
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Romania Rayku
Are you serious ESL? You really faild hard this time.
2011-03-04 17:34
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#188
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Ukraine mr.me
And don't forget, Na'Vi still wait for prize-winning money for IEM 2010 and ESL already fines them for 2011
2011-03-04 17:35
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#189
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United Kingdom Oxna
ESL are morons yes and maybe SK will get a decent paycheck for this tournament afterall hahaha
2011-03-04 17:35
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#191
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Ukraine bodos
ESl,where money navi at IEM4 ?
2011-03-04 17:35
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Guys the problem is this: ESL sucking hard but we all still follow the event and that's what counts. We all shoud have boicoted the event to really have any say
2011-03-04 17:36
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#196
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Bosnia and Herzegovina wcKd1337
For all the fan boys of Na'Vi here. In professional scene, in every game, there's something called RULES. Every violation of them must be punished (no exceptions). So, who gave you the right to talk like that to ESL organization, that organized all this with tournament funds above 100k $. This is top3 tournament currently, and you're talking crap in ESL favor. Come on people, don't be primitive for first time in your short life.
2011-03-04 17:36
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#214
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Russia Leurc
First of all - ESL is not a charity organisation at all so don't be so naive, second - if the rule is stupid it must be changed or canceled, be reasonable.
2011-03-04 17:41
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the rule is not stupid, you shouldnt leave the stage while you playing on stage. You shouldnt leave the field when your playing fotball. simple as that. if cancel that rule, ppl would just say "i need to toilet" when they want to get rid of the other teams momentum or something like that. It is not right. :)
2011-03-04 17:47
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#239
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Russia Leurc
Sorry but you are almost as stupid as this freaking rule xDD In a football match there are 15 minutes break between 45 minutes halfs in which you can go to the toilet as well, in CS bo3 people are playing for about 2 hours with great tension and it's very normal to go the toilet, so your statement is ridiculous.
2011-03-04 17:53
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#252
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Sweden Vilseledd
No, they are allowed to visit the toilet during breaks if they ask for permission (which will be granted ofc), however you can't call a timeout to go. In cs you play one half maybe 30-45 minutes at most. You come off as a complete idiot, congrats.
2011-03-04 18:01
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#272
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Russia Leurc
Football players are sweating a lot during the match and CS players are sitting in almost static position for about 40 minutes, don't you think about that, huh? Read all the comments in this thread and think who is the real idiot, thx.
2011-03-04 18:05
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#370
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Denmark satanioN
Haha, so now it is 40 minutes? Before you said 2 hours... Of course it is a shame if the players can't control themselves for 40 minutes, but that is honestly not that long. Go to the toilet before the game and then after each map if needed. Nobody should leave the scene during a game, that is just basic.
2011-03-04 19:05
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#559
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Denmark wynn
"for leaving the stage at the interval of the second map" So half time isn't an option either. How long would you reckon it generally takes to play e.g. a 26-24 match like the mTw - SK one? Keeping in mind there's no way of knowing at half time if the match will be over in the minimum amount of rounds or go on and on. With the possibility always being there of an infinite number of overtimes, shouldn't it even be allowed to use the toilet in the timeouts like NaVi? I don't think you can really blame the players for not being able to control themselves, because the uncertainty may always be there. If it's true that NaVi was denied bathroom breaks in addition to all that, then ESL should really reconsider these ridiculous penalties.
2011-03-06 17:30
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#337
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United States mawgwhy
you're projecting, no one expects you to explain why you would be able to hold off going to the bathroom, it's a stupid rule and if you disagree then don't post anything.
2011-03-04 18:39
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#371
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Denmark satanioN
Oh, so only people that think it is a stupid rule is allowed to comment? Please try to think before you post.
2011-03-04 19:07
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#278
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Netherlands P|chrisJ
but you can call a time-out to get rid of a teams momentum anyway, so whats your point?
2011-03-04 18:08
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Well redcode broke the rules unpunished. Also ESL is making tons of money in this, they don't do this for the sake of the community. And it is only fair to flame ESL since they have done a crappy job in this event
2011-03-04 17:44
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#200
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India rohitchogtu
morale of the story keep ur dick in ur pants no matter what :DD
2011-03-04 17:38
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Listen to your mother! :D
2011-03-04 17:39
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#202
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Europe tenet
huh
2011-03-04 17:38
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#203
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m0NESY | 
Russia st00rm
with this fcking rules after final match navi will have a debt
2011-03-04 17:38
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#205
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France klwN
stupid rules... it doesn't matter which teams are concerned, it's just stupid.
2011-03-04 17:39
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#209
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Belarus sZUPER
that's funny
2011-03-04 17:40
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#210
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Romania Rayku
So what does ESL stand for? Extreme Shitty League?
2011-03-04 17:40
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#211
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France largo_0
Bring toilets on the stage then
2011-03-04 17:41
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#217
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Australia havmen
this is bullshit
2011-03-04 17:41
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#218
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Romania inc0gnitar
money = 0 ! toilet first ! b-) :)))
2011-03-04 17:42
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#220
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United Kingdom butchR
From now, every team should point out they will use toilets as coaching rooms or something :D
2011-03-04 17:42
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#222
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France Energy~
ppl are saying "shit esl, esl idiot" navi lost money but who cares ?It doesn't concern you but navi so shut up !
2011-03-04 17:43
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go to school shutuper
2011-03-04 17:54
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#348
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France Energy~
oh sry navi fanboy, did I hurt you ?muhahahaha
2011-03-04 18:47
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#224
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Brazil Bellaggio
new rule, stupid people trying to appear, reduced by 20 percent of salary for inventing this rule
2011-03-04 17:44
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#228
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Netherlands RSN(0.0)
Hmm so stupid. They want someone to pee on the stage??
2011-03-04 17:44
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#229
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Ukraine BlackEnergy
I think it's really stupid... Btw, I'm not sure that NaVi received their last year's prize money from ESL. If so, it sounds pretty bad to decrease prize while you still owe $50k. UPDATE: They really didn't receive prize money for IEM4.
2011-03-04 17:49
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#242
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Romania zeusel
is that really true? where did you get this info? :o
2011-03-04 17:54
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#255
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Ukraine BlackEnergy
In one of the interviews ZeroGravity told that. I thought that ESL finally paid off, but some reporters from IEM5 made this situation clear.
2011-03-04 18:02
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#230
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Belgium  seulf0rce
Epic fail tournament,with epic fail organisators. Nothing more to say but ESL YOU SUCK!!!
2011-03-04 17:45
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pee on yourself or loose some cash !! GRATZ ESL or maybe they should have pee in bottle in front of the public . Carmac if you read this thread i hope you'll do something because it's really stupid .
2011-03-04 17:49
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#235
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Romania maybedabest
+1 =)))))))))
2011-03-04 17:50
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#233
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Estonia cheti1337
shouldnt it be -3% and then -10%, not -13% you cant just add percentages together...
2011-03-04 17:47
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oh they can!:D
2011-03-04 17:53
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#234
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United States bReAkDoWnRT
Lmao, way to skimp out on rewarding the winners ESL. Fail.
2011-03-04 17:48
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Haha, great :D
2011-03-04 17:51
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#237
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Japan novusv
omg.. that is so amoral.. taking a teams winnings because of a bathroom break? lame.
2011-03-04 17:51
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#238
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World loppas
though best what they need is 1st place and the greatest cup
2011-03-04 17:53
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#244
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Ukraine mein
I think the ESL you need to put in place the chairs on the stage of toilet bowls. What would later she did not have any problems. :////
2011-03-04 17:55
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#246
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France faceBUSTER
ahhah
2011-03-04 17:56
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#247
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Poland noaki
if they are hardcores... maybe close all toilets durning match :D
2011-03-04 17:56
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#248
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Ukraine realfooli
4,550 for toalet
2011-03-04 17:56
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#250
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Lithuania hairSpray
wonder how big penality would be peeing on the stage.
2011-03-04 17:57
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#251
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Greenland ALBiNh0
some more penalty points and they won't get any money at all
2011-03-04 17:59
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#253
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sashajke | 
Israel sashajke
sh!t
2011-03-04 18:00
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#254
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Belgium  seulf0rce
ESL you should pay off the prize money from IEM4,before reducing the money of the IEM5 which is not even finished yet.
2011-03-04 18:00
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#257
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Netherlands kayell
expensive piss :D
2011-03-04 18:01
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#258
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Asia Godz.
****the second for calling a timeout to go to the toilet.**** EPIC SICK? LOL ONE CANT GOTO TOILET :)) Sick Orgz.
2011-03-04 18:02
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LMAO ... made my day !!
2011-03-04 18:02
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#261
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World mouseq
fucking hell, ESL MAKE SOME MONEEEYYY... ANYHOW!!!!!! NO WC!!! I NEED MONEY!!!
2011-03-04 18:03
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#262
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Ukraine doitfunny
ESL have troubles with organization event! They must pay penalties!!!
2011-03-04 18:03
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#264
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Yugoslavia sTx1g
there is only one explanation for this, they are too much in the sky atm, because of the last year...so FX BRING THEM HELL!
2011-03-04 18:03
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#265
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f0rest | 
Ukraine lukas_ua
actually that proves cs to be a pro sport. and financial penalties for misbehaving are common there. but distributing among others is bad. they did nothing to deserve it. charity is better.
2011-03-04 18:04
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#275
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f0rest | 
Ukraine lukas_ua
PS red bull chewing gum needed!
2011-03-04 18:07
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#339
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Netherlands P|chrisJ
How would that help? Caffeine is a diuretic, meaning you will have to go to the bathroom more often ;)
2011-03-04 18:40
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#362
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f0rest | 
Ukraine lukas_ua
no water no toilet I suppose :)
2011-03-04 18:56
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#581
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Australia redman3231
awesome!
2011-03-08 10:01
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#266
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Sweden -noppe
Na'Vi gets punished for that and redCode don't get punished for having blood on and in that way breaking the German law. cmon esl...
2011-03-04 18:04
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#268
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World _hottab
fucking ESL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2011-03-04 18:04
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#269
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Poland Siwyxd
lol so make a toilet into the stage.
2011-03-04 18:04
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#270
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Pakistan hamzaaabutt
second for calling a timeout to go to the toilet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D:D:D
2011-03-04 18:05
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#274
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Serbia PEDJA[HFM]
Cartman u suck hard. Reduce their earnings for breathing air as well.
2011-03-04 18:06
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#276
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Turkey huth
Is Red-Bull effective for CS ? This question may sound silly to you but I find it interesting.
2011-03-04 18:08
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Red Bull is an energy drink so id assume it would just .. give you more energy? Not sure!
2011-03-04 18:19
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#284
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South Africa Tshabalala
Put ESL on stage, provide them with water and red bull and let them play something like 80 rounds over 3 maps and see if they can manage to stay on stage all the time without going to the toilet.
2011-03-04 18:11
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#287
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Ukraine chigivarbi4
fail....IEM - fail fail fail..
2011-03-04 18:13
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#289
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Other bacon_strips
12 pps soon
2011-03-04 18:14
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hahaha :D
2011-03-04 18:15
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#290
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World fnatic pls!
Put a proffessional soccer player on the field and he is Forced by the rules to stay there for a 45-50 min period of time, in the half he can take a shit if he wants, but in the middle of the game, this is against the RULES
2011-03-04 18:15
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#303
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Romania neXt!Mike
Word!
2011-03-04 18:20
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#312
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Ukraine chigivarbi4
soccer players don't dring so a lot in match...and it's not soccer...
2011-03-04 18:23
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#340
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World fnatic pls!
YES they do, and YES it is.
2011-03-04 18:40
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no look at ronaldo who left the game by himself because of injuries yesterday ... and they couldn't do any replacements they already used it
2011-03-04 18:26
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#359
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m0NESY | 
Russia st00rm
they sweat and lose much more water and calories than cs players
2011-03-04 18:55
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#525
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Germany pa$co
Logic: Therefore CS players would not need so much water and calories before the match.
2011-03-05 11:24
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#294
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Poland Udry
Perhaps Na'Vi should make some kind of deal with FX in order to save $2,340? ;)
2011-03-04 18:17
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100% Fair by ESL, These guys are treated as professionals and should act like them, They know the rules and they know there are consequences for breaking them - If we ever want to see E-Sports succeed in the future, Acts like these by ESL will help that as it shows they are not going to mess around when it comes to rules + rule breaking, GO ESL!
2011-03-04 18:18
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#307
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Lithuania kexas
I'm not sure anybody knew you aren't allowed to go to toilet even during a TIMEOUT.
2011-03-04 18:21
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Timeouts are meant to regain the teams focus - Talk strats or to just regroup if your rounds down. toilet/cigarette breaks are for half-team, Na`Vi knows this.
2011-03-04 18:38
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#299
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World badgames
You cannot take a timeout to pee simply because you can ruin your opponent's momentum/mental by taking a timeout simply to pee. Considering you have 10 minutes in the half time, you can use 2 of those 10 minutes to do your natural needs.
2011-03-04 18:20
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#304
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Denmark Mojazu
1 word: ridiculous CS is slowly disappearing (France etc.)and now with price-cutting money rewards from reasons like this is just rediculous tbh if it was me who had to play serious like these guys do and i had to pee at the same time i would not be able to focus on the game. 1 major penalty point for going to the toilet is too much...
2011-03-04 18:21
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#322
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World badgames
stop saying CS is disappearing, it's not true
2011-03-04 18:27
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sader
2011-03-04 18:21
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#310
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United Kingdom entail
this is what itll come to, youtube.com/watch?v=5sicTFKAUec
2011-03-04 18:22
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#314
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Lithuania Mantass
epic fail esl!!!
2011-03-04 18:23
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#320
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Slovakia Cavalera666
now they will recieve XXL pampers powered by Steelseries :P
2011-03-04 18:26
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#326
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Europe IntelCentral
its fair enough, navi often seem to think they can just do what they want
2011-03-04 18:29
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#335
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Latvia MobijsDiks
true man, theyre not gentelmans they just scream like peccarys, and swear in russian. Ofc people dont understand most of the time what they r saying, but this decision maybe makes them think a lil bit about that.
2011-03-04 18:38
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#455
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World ricf0i
Many teams swear. mouz, FX even mTw... Who not?
2011-03-04 22:24
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#327
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Serbia Niksi_F
FUCK YOU ESL!
2011-03-04 18:29
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Yeah thats it, Be annoyed at the one thing keeping competitive CS1.6 alive .. Good idea buddy.
2011-03-04 18:39
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#480
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Serbia Niksi_F
thanks for the information mate :)
2011-03-05 00:55
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#328
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Korea dafNaY
zzzzzzzzz like we care about that
2011-03-04 18:30
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#329
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Latvia MobijsDiks
Thats nice! Other teams will have more.
2011-03-04 18:33
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#331
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World netu
ESL STFU
2011-03-04 18:34
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#333
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Germany teh germans?
navi doesnt even try to respect any rules. net_graph, insulting, timeouts and so on. we arent in ukraine ;)
2011-03-04 18:36
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#344
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Russia rubberNiNjA
and still they won everyone, so they dont care.
2011-03-04 18:43
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#356
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Germany teh germans?
esport should be based on fairplay and if navi is unable to respect rules, they will get the consequences. this rules have to be followed by russians, ukrainians or germans.
2011-03-04 18:51
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#338
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Poland Poland
piss on Na'Vi ;)
2011-03-04 18:40
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#341
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Canada PrimeTime
Na`Vi often ignore the rules, show up late to match times, etc. Glad they are getting punished for once.
2011-03-04 18:42
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#345
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Russia rubberNiNjA
ofc SK need 50 euros for beer, coz they will loose tommorow.
2011-03-04 18:44
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#347
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Israel arbel
so stoped
2011-03-04 18:44
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ahaha it's unfair because Na'Vi this should make no difference if they go somewhere or just stay chatting during that time. )))
2011-03-04 18:47
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#352
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India sagkash1
LOL this is funny
2011-03-04 18:48
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#353
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Vietnam robocopvn
"All the money that is deducted off teams is redistributed among the remaining participants. " love it :d
2011-03-04 18:48
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#357
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Bulgaria disectorr
Over 4 thousand dollars for going to the WC? Is there a "YOU've Been Punk'D" episode going on down there?
2011-03-04 18:52
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#358
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Latvia INCODe
OMG Stupied Administration. :DD:D:D:D:D:D:D
2011-03-04 18:54
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#361
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Philippines WireLeaf
Steelseries, Logitech, Razer should make pee supporter so players wont pee on their pants.. anyway ESL RULES IS Total NONSENSE. Maybe because the admins dont pee
2011-03-04 18:57
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#363
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World phyro
what if one gets diarea? according to esl rules, he should sit on the chair and shit his pants
2011-03-04 18:57
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#365
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Philippines WireLeaf
he should not play if he has diarrhea but what if he wants to shit. He can use the processor as a toilet instead or use the mousepad as a toilepaper
2011-03-04 18:58
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#372
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World phyro
you can get diarea after eating a sandwich, thanks for pointing out esl's not so obvious solution
2011-03-04 19:09
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#582
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Australia redman3231
bad idea, not use the mousepad as a toilepaper.
2011-04-10 05:08
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#364
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Canada yrul
these rules : usefull as a bicycle to a fish...
2011-03-04 18:57
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#367
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Sweden siMon2kk
This is one of the reasons so many hates ESL.
2011-03-04 19:03
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#368
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Russia m9s1Q
wahahahah go to toilet under yourself !!!! THE MAIN RULE OF IEM.....wtf ? :D:D
2011-03-04 19:04
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#369
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Bosnia and Herzegovina c1le
Retarded punishment for going to toilet. If i were some of Na`Vi players i would take a shit on this main stage just in protest.
2011-03-04 19:04
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#395
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Singapore Nephalith
Lol your idea rocks. Let's see if those ESL professionals are willing to clean all the urine and feces made by players on stage. Can't imagine if a player were to fall ill in the middle of the game. Will the whole team get penalized for rushing his teammate to the hospital?
2011-03-04 20:06
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#467
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Portugal ENERG1EofLDS
ahahahah
2011-03-04 23:16
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#373
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Ukraine the.fail
fucking ESL...
2011-03-04 19:10
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#374
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United States racerX41
im amazed at how many people here are not looking at it from ESL side They are a BUSINESS hosting an event for players to ensure fair play. They are hosting a broadcast for 30,000 people (idk the exact number) that are looking to see the match in a timely fashion (you all know you complain about delays anyway). A timeout to go the bathroom in the middle of a map CAN give them an unfair advantage if they recieve help from someone (ie getting told from someone watching the live stream they are smoking mid and pushing 2 every time). That is something that will be very hard to control and the rule should be in place. Going to the bathroom inbetween maps is completely justified since you are on a break of playing. I cant really think of any good reason why a person cant relieve themself before they are going to play on stage when they know they are going to be up there for an extended period of time. Its like going for a long car ride you always go right before you leave. I do think it was wrong for Redcode not to get penalized for the blood, but since they didnt make it out of the group anyway what punishment is really needed.
2011-03-04 19:11
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#418
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Argentina Aguirre
Exactly.
2011-03-04 20:56
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1 reply
#503
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Denmark Snuacks
!
2011-03-05 06:46
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#504
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Denmark louzzy
bible dot com plz
2011-03-05 06:47
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#560
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Denmark wynn
"for leaving the stage at the interval of the second map" So half time isn't an option either. How long would you reckon it generally takes to play e.g. a 26-24 match like the mTw - SK one? Keeping in mind there's no way of knowing at half time if the match will be over in the minimum amount of rounds or go on and on. With the possibility always being there of an infinite number of overtimes, shouldn't it even be allowed to use the toilet in the timeouts like NaVi? I don't think you can really blame the players for not being able to control themselves, because the uncertainty may always be there. If it's true that NaVi was denied bathroom breaks in addition to all that, then ESL should really reconsider these ridiculous penalties.
2011-03-06 17:30
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#377
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Johnny R. | 
Spain shooterr
germans square head
2011-03-04 19:14
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#380
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Sweden Zyppe
Good ! they know the rules
2011-03-04 19:26
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#381
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Russia daturainoxia
hahaha nice!
2011-03-04 19:31
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#382
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Finland FliE
"I think it's unfair because we were drinking water and Red bull during the games" HURR WHO THE FUCK FORCED YOU TO DRINK WATER AND RED BULL DURING THE GAMES? You get a penalty for breaking the rules? Well no shit.
2011-03-04 19:32
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#398
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Bosnia and Herzegovina c1le
Oh yes , it would be better if they didnt drink anything , they would probably feel exhausted but who cares?
2011-03-04 20:11
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#526
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Finland FliE
If you get exhausted playing CS you're probably a fat slob, and in that case you again have no one to blame but you. Of course this is all far too complicated for the 12-year old eastern-Europeans who seem to reign over these forums these days. Understandable, it must be great to get a few wins after a few hundred years of constant failing.
2011-03-05 11:31
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#528
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Bosnia and Herzegovina c1le
You just want to attack someone becouse you are probably little dick in real life. First i don't even like Na`Vi , second Bosnia doesn't have anything with Ukrain(use google earth please) , third you should sit three hours speaking to teammates and not taking any drink , then you should tell me how you feel , fourth what few hundred years of constant failing?
2011-03-05 11:41
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#383
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Russia cr1me
ESL SUCK. IEM5 fail <
2011-03-04 19:33
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#384
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Bosnia and Herzegovina spaga
LOL, this greedy idiots should die :/
2011-03-04 19:34
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#387
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Russia sm1-
ESL LOL
2011-03-04 19:35
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#388
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United States IMkiN
As a Na'Vi fan I am happy they are getting penalized.
2011-03-04 19:40
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#389
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North Macedonia demolation
fx powah:( navi 14.800 :^^^
2011-03-04 19:40
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#390
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Ukraine Thevidmo
pfff... what they are supposed to do? pee in they r pants? awesome ... Fail decision .
2011-03-04 19:41
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#401
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NEO | 
Germany BackY
yeah, that sound funny lol ! I guess they should've asked, or who knows. this seems stupid, really.
2011-03-04 20:17
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#391
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Russia Aektann
Does wet zeus' trousers worth it?=)))
2011-03-04 19:43
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#392
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Russia Aektann
How the fuck they can reduce money for 2011 if they didn't pay for 2010?))))))))))))
2011-03-04 19:44
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#393
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Ukraine zegoooo
Where is the prize money for the seasons 2009 and 2010? And they still talk about the rules? how much can you delay the payments?
2011-03-04 19:47
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#397
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Poland praktik
Probably the most expensive piss ever :)
2011-03-04 20:09
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#400
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North Macedonia m1ch0
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHA This is really silly...HILARIOUS... Fucking stupid ESL. I hope everyone from ESL can't go to pee in the next 24hrs.
2011-03-04 20:16
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#583
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Australia redman3231
cool =]] god save you lol
2011-04-10 05:12
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#586
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North Macedonia m1ch0
what the fuck is wrong with you ?
2011-04-10 10:08
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#402
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United States EG|n0thing
lol
2011-03-04 20:21
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#404
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Argentina Aguirre
The players can go to the toilet between the maps and not killing the opponents concentration because they drink too much. I didnt see the problem at all to be honest. When you organize a tournament like the IEM you need rules (some are discussible but that's NOT THE POINT). The Teams know the rules before the tournament and have an option if they dont accept these rules: Don't participate. Where is the problem? They don't act like professionals.
2011-03-04 20:23
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#407
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Russia Aektann
They act like professionals. Ye, they lost some money, but scene is still dry.
2011-03-04 20:26
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#405
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World fooB11
A major penalty point was awarded for going to pee? WOW!! Just make the person who took this decision read this article and maybe just maybe he will see just how FKIN DUMB this is. I CANT BELIVE THE DUMBFUCKS INVOLVED IN THIS!
2011-03-04 20:25
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#410
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Argentina Aguirre
So when a Player gets tired and uses the Timeout to take a nap, what's your comment then? "A Major penalty point was awarded for having a nap?? WOW HUMANS NEED TO SLEEP "
2011-03-04 20:32
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#417
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World fooB11
So basically u dont c the difference between a nap and a loo-break? Cmon dont post BS arguments just for the heck of it.
2011-03-04 20:56
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#428
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Argentina Aguirre
That's not the point at all. You need to define what is allowed in timeouts and what is not. The ESL frame the rule, that the players can relieve themselves in the breaks between the maps and not in the timeouts because they don't want to disrupt the game (and the player's concentration) only cause of someone who needs to take a piss and was too lazy doing it in the break. The Teammanager should know these rules and it's his fault when the players don't stick to the rules.
2011-03-04 21:09
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#544
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World fooB11
The very fact that the rules regarding the timeouts arent defined show incompetency on behalf of ESL.And that was exactly my point.
2011-03-05 14:16
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#424
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SkullsY | 
United Kingdom SkullsY
lol nice argument... ?
2011-03-04 21:06
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#436
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Argentina Aguirre
So where is your argument Robin. Feel free to join the discussion.
2011-03-04 21:29
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#481
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SkullsY | 
United Kingdom SkullsY
ewwww pedo
2011-03-05 01:13
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#542
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Argentina Aguirre
wtf? how random is this flame anyway?
2011-03-05 13:48
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#406
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Latvia Interex
i am so sorry but esl do that ))))
2011-03-04 20:25
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#408
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Sweden lidda;D
I'm kind of happy and sad about this, more sad than happy. Happy because I hate ceh9 he absolutely shows no respect for his opponent at all. Sad because this shouldn't be a reason to take 13% of the prize money. SUCK ON THAT CEH9!
2011-03-04 20:27
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#416
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Ukraine BlackEnergy
I have the same feelings :) The decision is retarded no doubt. I'm Ukrainian and I support NaVi, but ceh9 is unmanner and I really dislike him.
2011-03-04 20:55
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#420
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Ukraine DREv
if u hate ceh9, u hate zet too.
2011-03-04 21:04
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+10000000000000000000000000 ceh9 is just like zet EPIC
2011-03-04 21:11
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#439
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Sweden lidda;D
Yeah, I hate zet too then.
2011-03-04 21:34
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10 replies
#442
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Sweden xav1en
i hate you, and what? lol
2011-03-04 21:38
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#444
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Sweden lidda;D
Well, I don't hate zet as a person, but the way he is acting, he's acting like a baby.
2011-03-04 21:39
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#453
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Ukraine DREv
i think u r newbie in cs scene, and dont know olda times when zet doing the same what ceh9 doing now, shout to the enemy and break them physically. and its moral + for your team. sry for bad eng.
2011-03-04 22:22
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#462
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Sweden lidda;D
Haha, please, how the heck do you know how much I know about the old times? I know what zet it and he didn't swear to his enemies, and he didn't exaggerate as much as ceh9 does so don't tell me that I don't know about the older times if you don't know what I mean.
2011-03-04 23:02
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#465
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Sweden lidda;D
Am I a newbie in the CS Scene? Wow, and that's coming from a strangers mouth who doesn't even know me. How the hell is he helping his team by swearing to the opponents? This kind of things should be penalized and punished, not some stupid thing about taking a timeout and going to the bathroom. It's obvious that you are as stupid as timeout rule.
2011-03-04 23:10
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#485
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Ukraine DREv
okey lidda, :DA:SSDA:SA: what a fucking idiot. omg.
2011-03-05 02:06
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#489
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Philippines WireLeaf
cmon trashtalking is part of the game.. it has been there since CS was born. Well you even tell yourself your not a stranger to CS. obvious troll detected
2011-03-05 02:33
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#508
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Sweden lidda;D
You can talk trash before the game all you want, that's okay for me, but swearing and cursing under the game, not acceptable for me.
2011-03-05 08:42
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#567
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Estonia kukeke
GTFO then, no one cares whats acceptable for you or what isn't.
2011-03-06 20:22
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1 reply
#568
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Sweden lidda;D
If no one cares why are you writing? That show that you, at least care. ;)
2011-03-06 20:43
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#422
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Ukraine DREv
and also shows ur lan skill is level 0:(
2011-03-04 21:04
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#441
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Sweden lidda;D
What does this have to do with my lan skill lol? Yeah they won, but come on, show some respect at least ffs. Not act like a egoistic baby.
2011-03-04 21:36
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#454
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Ukraine DREv
im not egoistic,read 453
2011-03-04 22:22
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#463
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Sweden lidda;D
First, you didn't answer my question, what has this to do with my lan skills? Clearly you're stupid or just retarded.. Yeah, before you comment something, learn to understand english, read my post again and think about what you wrote.
2011-03-04 23:04
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#512
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Singapore hohi
i love when ceh9 just jumps up and screams at the other team makes the match more interesting like we all saw yesterday vs mtw was so good
2011-03-05 09:35
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#518
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Sweden lidda;D
That's why I hate him.
2011-03-05 10:21
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#569
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Ukraine DREv
thats why u r an idiot, and not a little :DDDAS:DSA rly man, u r not normal, sry:)
2011-03-06 22:34
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#572
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Sweden lidda;D
Just because I have an opinion that you don't like I'm not normal? Seems to me that if I'm not normal that you're retarded.
2011-03-07 08:01
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#533
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Russia f1x3r
some people hate you
2011-03-05 12:41
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#534
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Sweden lidda;D
Well keep on hating then. It ain't bothering me even a little.
2011-03-05 12:44
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#409
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Poland Wuzwar
One side lasts like 30 minute max, I mean if he has like weak bluster he should give sth like doctor's opinion ;)
2011-03-04 20:29
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edward should of pissed his pants ...
2011-03-04 20:44
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#413
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Kazakhstan Pauly D
sad...........
2011-03-04 20:47
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#414
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Norway menu
UNFAIR !!!
2011-03-04 20:53
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#415
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Georgia dav1ll
hah lol :|
2011-03-04 20:55
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#419
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Ukraine DREv
:SDA:SDA what aretarted organisation esl.
2011-03-04 21:02
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ESL = Sh1t
2011-03-04 21:04
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#423
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LeX | 
Russia *Tpo-_-JI.b*
i think it is stupid...to have such rules...if you need to pee, you need to pee, there's no but...how can u concentrate on the game if you wanna pee jeez....that's stupid...
2011-03-04 21:06
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lol redbull promotion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! marketing!!!! in all news "drinking water and !!!Red bull!!! !during the games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in all portals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good money for zerog and navi!!! its promotion sor for my angl!
2011-03-04 21:07
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u just wrote red bull red bull this is promotion too
2011-03-05 00:19
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#427
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United States DeGReeS
i would love to have seen navi just piss on the floor during the games.
2011-03-04 21:09
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#430
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Ecuador calan
lol wow
2011-03-04 21:18
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#431
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Kosovo spadzxf
lmao
2011-03-04 21:19
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#432
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Malta wmbo
if they dont want them to leave stage to pee then they should put a bathroom below the stage or a portable
2011-03-04 21:21
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#434
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Argentina Aguirre
Well, they are allowed to leave the stage to relieve themselves ... in the breaks between the maps. And Since they are adults and don't have urinary incontinence that should be enough.
2011-03-04 21:25
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#507
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France klwN
it depends... Red Bull is a bitch when it comes to that.
2011-03-05 08:40
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#433
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Sweden chubby1337
Ha!
2011-03-04 21:25
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#435
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Poland Aavil
Im sure they sign a contract before the tournament and I hope there was everything explained. Anyway I think it harms too much, it's normal thing to go to the toilet.
2011-03-04 21:27
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#443
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Bulgaria SHISHETu
lol?
2011-03-04 21:38
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#446
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Sweden iNs8T
Haha thats so lame.
2011-03-04 21:44
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#447
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Spain p4pu
esl is a fucking idiot organization
2011-03-04 21:47
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#448
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Portugal andrefilipe
nice decision! Timeout for pee? oh come on, esl did very well.
2011-03-04 21:54
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#449
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Hungary -ZENITH-
esl=meet
2011-03-04 21:56
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#450
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Norway spYdR-
LOL ESL
2011-03-04 22:04
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#451
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World ricf0i
It's some kind of idiotism, isn't it? Burghers...
2011-03-04 22:11
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#457
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Poland Nobody_88
omg.. what wrong with u ppl! ESL bring us such a great event few time in a year and u write something like "ESL suks!" o_O without esl we have nothing! eswc and wcg... 2 events. OMG! we should thanks esl for they do what they do no matter what o_O and rules... other teams dont go to the toilet so this is way to play whole match withous break like this. And they dont take this money but give to another teams. I dont know.. maybe u think "navi are top 2010 team and they can do what they want" But this is bullshit... every team must obey the rules.. and this is it!
2011-03-04 22:48
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#466
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Portugal ENERG1EofLDS
So does ESWC, so does WCG, so did Arbalet, so does Dreamhack etc, i want ESL guys to go f*** themselves, priving the people from watching HLTV its RIDICULOUS! do not come with profits and w/e, cause NO OTHER TOURNAMENT does it and all of them are still in the business, so yeah, ESL SUCKS! about this rule break, i agree, players should read the rules and follow them, period..
2011-03-04 23:13
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but they could warn him or smth
2011-03-05 00:17
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#460
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Bosnia and Herzegovina codex
Rules are rules, nothing shocking there. They got enough time for all that things to do before the match.
2011-03-04 23:01
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#461
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Europe Grin4
nice piss 4.5k$ worth =DD
2011-03-04 23:02
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#464
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Reunion TheLastDream
ha i would have pissed my pants to save that kind of money
2011-03-04 23:08
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#530
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Sweden m4now4r
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you made my day!
2011-03-05 11:47
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#584
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Australia redman3231
you rock ^^ how about "no pee after 24h" just like ESL
2011-04-10 05:22
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#468
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Ireland nuer
good news.
2011-03-04 23:21
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#469
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United States benwon89
a time-out is a time-out..who cares if i clip my toe nails during the time-out, or go to the bathroom..
2011-03-04 23:28
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#470
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Pakistan PatrickT^
ESL trying to find some reasons to not give full prizes? :) what a shame.
2011-03-04 23:34
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#471
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Bahrain Jason Bourne
"All the money that is deducted off teams is redistributed among the remaining participants."
2011-03-04 23:44
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#475
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United States nyjuk
No, they are correct, do you see players in the MLB,NFL,NHL,MLS,NBA, leaving the game to take a piss or shit? no. If you want this game to be taken seriously as a sport, then rules need to be followed. professional players in sports get fines. Like i said if they want to be considered professionals and a SPORT then when the audience is watching they shouldnt be taking bathroom breaks, btw sports players drink alot of water in games. i.e boxers can u imagine 12 rounds having to pee? Redcode did not break the rules, that is german law not esl rules
2011-03-05 00:32
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#476
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Poland Wuzwar
I have no idea what is mls or mlb but totally agree with you. It's just a mob which reads "money was taken away due to he fact he had to pee" and doesn't think about why other players don't get punished for that and why esl team which consists of very competent people made a decision like that. Ahrg!
2011-03-05 00:31
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#479
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United States nyjuk
mls=major league soccer - mlb=major league baseball
2011-03-05 00:34
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#490
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Philippines WireLeaf
well they can call a timeout in the middle of the game and ask for substitution then they can ask their coach to go to the bathroom. Well you have wrong arguments
2011-03-05 02:36
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#506
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Ukraine CeMMu
Last season one of NBA players was supposed to be in a starting five, but only entered the game in the middle of the first quarter because he stayed in a locker room to shit. That`s a fact and his teammates were making fun of him so much after this happened. NBA players sometimes leave the bench to take a leak 100%, dunno about other leagues though.
2011-03-05 08:44
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#516
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Ukraine BlackEnergy
I don't know what these abbreviations stands for but speaking about soccer players have 15 min break when they can do whatever they want to do. In situation of NaVi and mTw they have asked to go to a toilet during the match break but orgs refused it. And this is very and very stupid. So they decided to go there during timeout though they were notified about points by Carmac. As Zeus said in his interview, this is better to get penalty points than lose semifinal match due to playing without concentration.
2011-03-05 09:56
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#536
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Argentina Aguirre
Totally agreed.
2011-03-05 12:49
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i bet they won't pay prizes about half a year or more and then those redistributed money will just disapear like they never had existed.
2011-03-05 00:33
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#478
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Ukraine Jlocb
Thye should piss under esl admin
2011-03-05 00:33
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#482
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Lithuania -SYNTEX-
lol so they should piss in their pants? :D
2011-03-05 01:17
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#483
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North Macedonia Dekac
THERE IS AN ACTUAL RULE ABOUT NOT USING THE TIMEOUT TO GO TO THE TOILET??? WOW!
2011-03-05 01:39
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#484
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Japan semdoh
Going to the toilet costs you $3,500?_?
2011-03-05 02:00
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#488
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Other mlupato
what joke.
2011-03-05 02:20
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#491
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Other Mortal_Wombat
wow, thats just harsh. but maybe they interpreted it as trying to disrupt mtw focus, like unsportsmanlike behaviour or someting, dunno, but i just wonder what went through their mind.
2011-03-05 02:40
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after first or second map Zeus asked admins if he can go to the toilet, they denied him, after first half they took a timeout to run to the toilet, when they came back carmac said they gonna lose some points, but zeus wanted to stay focused on the game and not to think every second about how not to burst urine, so it was Na`Vi's decision
2011-03-05 18:27
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#492
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Germany CALM_BAITER
=save money. joke...
2011-03-05 03:21
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#495
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Greece XecutioN
they are just mad because during 1 of the matches that navi was spectating the stream showed the crowed and markeloff was acting like he was whacking off LOL
2011-03-05 03:43
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I was thinking only ESL Turkey is amateur at organisations like this, but it must have been spread. Stupid decision.
2011-03-05 04:45
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#502
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Russia m9s1Q
I think NaVi needs win, and only then money...
2011-03-05 06:23
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#505
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Japan str8forward
hahahahahahahahahaha
2011-03-05 07:28
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#509
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Ukraine CeMMu
BTW Seh9 wrote in his blog today that the orgs didn`t let them visit a bathroom during the break between the sides because they were behind on their schedule, so this answers the question why they didn`t go during the break - because ESL admins didn`t let them and now they deduct the money... so lame
2011-03-05 08:43
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#510
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United Kingdom Bullseye2k
You're fucking kidding me? Because they went to the toilet? oh my god.. I feel sorry for Na`Vi
2011-03-05 08:57
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#511
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Argentina Tr4uM4
Nice :D
2011-03-05 09:03
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#519
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Europe Monsury
Hey ESL, you know what? Go fu** yourself!
2011-03-05 10:44
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#521
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Japan zetray
he shouldn't have gone to a toilet. Because he is a pro. soccer player and other pro player don't go to toilet in games.
2011-03-05 10:50
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#532
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Ukraine BlackEnergy
Soccer players have a break between periods when they can go to a toilet.
2011-03-05 12:30
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#537
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Argentina Aguirre
CS players have a break between the maps when they can go to a toilet. Seriously, don't you get it?
2011-03-05 12:53
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#539
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Ukraine BlackEnergy
They were not allowed to go anywhere during the break, don't you know it?
2011-03-05 13:15
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#541
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Argentina Aguirre
That's not true. The Players can leave the stage and go wherever they want in those breaks, with a timelimit of course. That's a fact.
2011-03-05 13:45
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#547
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Ukraine BlackEnergy
Then Zeus lied in his interview.
2011-03-05 15:32
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#571
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Ukraine pitmason
mb u havn't noticed,but f players doesn't drink anything during the match..that's why they don't need toilet
2011-03-06 23:56
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Justice for Na'Vi!
2011-03-05 11:11
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#524
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Sweden zeNap
It's fair. If you don't follow the rules then it's your own fault. You kinda think that these players who have been in many tournaments should know these stuff. Yet again, redCode didn't follow the rules either so..
2011-03-05 11:11
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#527
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Germany pa$co
But next time they would take a timeout to eat a beefsteak, smoke a cigarette or to masturbate. Sorry but something like this you have to do before.
2011-03-05 11:35
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#529
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Georgia GEORGIAxaBu
fuckin hell NAVI are you stupid? you want to go to the toilet for free? pay $4,550 and then go to the toilet
2011-03-05 11:45
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#531
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Germany azhaG
3 Maps means they have time to go to the toilet: - before the match - in 3x halftime break - in 2x map break - after the match No - it needs to be DURING the match!
2011-03-05 11:53
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#540
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Romania RatzY
the most pathetic reasons... FFS IT'S SOMETHING NATURAL TO GO TO THE TOILET... there's a small possibility to die in case you can't use the toilet if you must...
2011-03-05 13:20
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#543
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Ukraine flame /A/
hahahaaha JEEEEEEEEEEEEEWS
2011-03-05 13:49
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#548
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Estonia FrispeN
ESL = ROBIN HOOD
2011-03-05 15:56
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#551
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Slovakia ~ kWoPOr ~
to get a 10% prize reduction for going to the toilet ? :D :D trolled that one nicely... point 1 - it's their decision what to do during the timeout, besides, the other team can do the same.. point 2 - the toilet is the king.. when he calls.. you have to answer :D
2011-03-05 19:52
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These are expensive toilets? :)
2011-03-05 20:25
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#553
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Greece Mys7
I think they can afford it.
2011-03-06 00:30
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o_O
2011-03-06 04:10
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#555
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Kazakhstan KASeg
At least, it was worth it! Zeus and Edward will never forget this trip to the toilet :)
2011-03-06 04:59
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#585
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Australia redman3231
sure!!! it is heaven toilet. you will high. 4000$
2011-04-10 05:29
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#556
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Costa Rica AquILes tG
lmfao
2011-03-06 05:19
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#557
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Estonia TehkarN
ESL - Epic Stupid League
2011-03-06 16:52
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#562
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Ireland nuer
esl are not gonna pay prize money anyways :D like a last year.
2011-03-06 18:19
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#563
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Germany azhaG
You leprechaun be quiet with assumptions like that when it's your country that's in a fiscal mess.
2011-03-06 18:35
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#564
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Ireland nuer
lol you want to say that it isnt true? there was an interview with markeloff he said zerogravity was asking to esl admin where is their prize money for iem 4 and he answered with laugh. 1-3 months ago there was an article where it said that IEM 4 prize money (50k) hasnt been payed yet.
2011-03-06 18:41
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#565
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Germany pa$co
And why these "cheaters" host successfully e-sports tournaments since 1997, if they do not pay?
2011-03-06 19:01
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#566
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Ireland nuer
well i am not saying that they are not paying since 1997 i just said they didnt pay iem 4 i am not following esl that much so i dont know if they are paying from 1997 or not.
2011-03-06 19:53
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#570
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Finland dy7
well next time just sh*t on the f*cking stage
2011-03-06 22:38
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#576
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United States P0ckets
If the rules state that you must be on stage at X times and that there are no time outs, but one is needed to be taken they should be penalized. I mean if you are told what to do and given the rules there should be no reason for you to not follow them. They should have been before the match at halves, or after maps don't during a map where they need to pause the game for a timeout.
2011-03-07 15:31
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