UMX announce US-based team

8-3-2011 09:41

ULTIMAX Gaming have announced the enrolling of the former Ruins squad to their ranks.

The team, who hail from the United States, are currently thriving in the ESEA Invite with their second place position behind iDemise.

They have now received a major boost by being picked up by UMX Gaming and are ready to fully utilize the organization's support.

According to the official press release, UMX will provide the team with a California-based house for them to practice full time in.

"We're all very excited and have put off school, work and our personal lives for a year to live and train together. As UMX.US we intend to make the most of this dream each and every single day. Special thank you to Tony 'xaN' Lo for all of his help," Dustin "dizzaman" Dilyerd said.

Furthermore, the support will make the team eligible to attend most domestic and international tournaments throughout 2011 - the period which their current contracts will last.

UMX.US boast:

Kyle "flowsicK" Mendez
Dustin "dizzaman" Dilyerd
Chris "TRULS" Navratil
Ric "iNERTIA" Bundy
Ricky "sLip" Cohen

The team will, according to ESEANews.com, have their first official debut at the ESEA Invite Season 8 LAN finish.

Good Luck guys

2011-03-08 09:40

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the boss of UMX must be fking rich !! fight.pcgames.com.cn/cs/news/1103/215088..

2011-03-09 04:21

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THANKS

2011-03-09 12:21

Gettem, boys.

2011-03-08 09:41

Never heard of these guys, and they have a team house, lol :p

2011-03-08 09:48

18 replies

really never heard of iNERTIA?

2011-03-08 10:35

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no never

2011-03-08 11:15

No, sorry.

2011-03-08 12:07

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jesus inertia is sick really

2011-03-08 13:05

no..

2011-03-08 18:48

You should have heard of flowsicK :)

2011-03-08 13:51

Am I the only one to think that having the 5th computer away from the rest of the team is a bit of a fail?

2011-03-08 15:13

6 replies

where did you read that?

2011-03-08 15:20

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umx-gaming.com/usa/images/rsgallery/orig..

2011-03-08 15:36

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doesnt matter all that much, still beats training in seperate houses

2011-03-08 16:04

i honestly have no idea how that would really matter, its such a small detail... and at MSI Beat it sometimes the teams were in 3 rows haha. When you are ingame, it doesnt really matter.

2011-03-08 19:27

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Yes, maybe I'm just being picky, but I do love looking at my team's screens, that's all.

2011-03-08 21:04

maybe that's the cap computer and disposed like that its easiest to watch the other 4 dont know

2011-03-09 17:32

basically they all suck and inertia is random on internet but bad on lan

2011-03-08 20:10

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LMFAO WAIT. THEY SUCK? flowsicK is getting better then n0thing. You obviously don't know anything about cs.

2011-03-09 05:42

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And when have they done anything internationally? Yeah didn't think so. American CS is dead.

2011-03-10 04:38

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lol You are dead fanboy

2011-03-10 16:48

all of them are pretty well known, if you don't follow the american scene its not weird you only know EG and maybe a handfull of others :P

2011-03-09 19:33

2011-03-08 09:48

bahaha, i just realized how low american cs really is...

2011-03-08 09:53

Heh, hey guys :D

2011-03-08 09:59

gonna be interesting seeing them play at the esea lan finals

2011-03-08 10:01

I seriously don't understand why all of these companies keep putting time and money into players that have already had their chance. Not to mention, these guys really aren't all that great, no offence. I give this team 3-4 months before either breaking up, changing players, or the organization cuts them. There are literally hundreds of highly skilled north american players that have never been given an opportunity, I just don't understand.

2011-03-08 10:04

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pretty sure slip, dizzaman and truls never really got their "shot" with a real organization backed by a corporate sponsor. this is a true organization which the entire north american community has been lacking for the past several years. so i seriously don't understand YOU.

2011-03-08 10:07

because it really didnt pay off for Na'Vi. All of the players had their chance in teams like Virtus.Pro / A-Gaming, KerchNET etc etc... Assuming they have the right level of raw skill, living together is the biggest improvement a team can make. The cost of a house in the US isn't cheap, i would of those UMX would of made a bid for WemadeFox.

2011-03-08 10:39

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They couldn't have made a bid for WMF, considering there main team is Taiwanese and the whole org is based in Taiwan. I don't know much about the US scene, but I think this is them trying to make UMX a worldwide name, rather than just top 2 in Taiwan

2011-03-08 12:25

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that made no sense at all. "They couldn't have made a bid for WMF, considering there main team is Taiwanese and the whole org is based in Taiwan" "but I think this is them trying to make UMX a worldwide name, rather than just top 2 in Taiwan" they could of made their "worldwide name" with a team that is already top10 in the world. + closer to taiwan. The only reason that makes me think they went US, is because ZOWIE is based in the US, and ZOWIE support UMX.

2011-03-08 12:36

Didn't they rent the flat after a succesful start? By the way, starix didn't move in with them (don't know how it is now though).

2011-03-08 16:27

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my understanding is that starix lives very close to the flat location, and could just walk between the two. Not to sure whether it was before or after IEM. Regardless it's definitely a big reason why a team consisting of those players went to world #1 in the space of a year.

2011-03-08 17:23

I appreciate your comment, that's a really good point. The only difference between NaVi and this team is that markeloff and company have extraordinary talent, whereas these american players are nothing special in any respect. Of course, only the future will tell, but my point touches on the fact that international CS is top level because of the mix of experience and new talent. You see up-and-coming players making a stand in all different teams throughout the history of international CS. First there were newcomers like f0rest and zet, then there were newcomers like roman and n0thing, now a days we have trace and minet (who seemed to come out of no where) as well as dennis, ect... CS has always relied on 'fresh blood' throughout different eras, and that fresh blood is always exceptionally talented. Teams and organizations in europe are always looking for new TALENT whereas american organizations are only looking for known names who have some experience, they're not willing to take a chance, and that's the difference.

2011-03-08 20:40

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Yeah, both your points are correct if these players end up 'doing nothing'. ive only heard of a few, and probably only seen a handful of games ever of them. So i guess time wil tell if they have the talent of Markeloff and co.

2011-03-08 20:43

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As an American who has seen these players playing in ESEA invite for what feels like years now. I feel I can say they are good players. However, they don't stack up to the Na'Vi players. They still have a chance to make ground internationally. I just don't see them doing any better than EG. :(

2011-03-09 11:25

lol this kind of opinion is so common, an the situation really is such. it s like this with a lot of teams, live with it ;D

2011-03-08 11:18

Please name 5 of these "hundreds of highly skilled North American players."

2011-03-08 14:01

you did read the word CONTRACTS yes? lol

2011-03-08 19:27

flowsicK go

2011-03-08 10:05

gl guys! all the negative people here are just bad and brain dead.:D

2011-03-08 10:09

gl guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2011-03-08 10:23

are they living at the... hotel california?

2011-03-08 10:28

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ahahah nice one dude :P

2011-03-08 12:23

such a lovely place

2011-03-08 16:30

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Not so lovely faces however :p

2011-03-08 17:13

goodluck, hope you guys can make it work! :D

2011-03-08 10:34

gl guy's

2011-03-08 10:35

good team, only gonna get better now they are able to focus 100% on cs

2011-03-08 10:40

damn, that's a nice house.

2011-03-08 10:49

"We're all very excited and have put off school, work and our personal lives for a year to live and train together." *Facepalm* Unless you're the best players in the world, CS should be a second thing you're doing not the main thing. They shouldn't have put off important factors in life. What will they do if they DO become the best in this 1 year? They would have wasted 2 not 1 year if they decide to play another year. Regardless, good luck ;)

2011-03-08 10:58

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I agree to some extent, but I also think it's cool that they break a couple of norms and do what they really want to.

2011-03-08 11:02

the players are fully supported so this is their job and treating it as such.

2011-03-08 11:33

i tottally agree with you, that sounds kinda hardcore if you ask me.. Like they are training some ,,super-soldiers" for a next world war...

2011-03-08 12:27

They got the opportunity to live out what I guess is a dream for them! Why not grab that chance? If I suddenly got the opportunity to live out my dream, I wouldn't hesitate a second to go for it!

2011-03-08 15:48

You can always return to school at any time of your life, not so much with an opportunity like this. I dropped school to work for 2 years, saw that it wasn't what I really wanted and picked it up again. Now I'm in college and doing great, sometimes you need to take a break and do what you think it's better to figure things out. Just my point of view, obviously.

2011-03-08 19:07

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School is one thing, I was commenting on other things. How many friends of yours will remain close if you neglect them for a year? Will their jobs last when they are out for so long? What if they have a girlfriend? Trust me when I was 14 I had to travel for a year, I came back and they were still friends...then I had to travel again for 6 months and I haven't heard of them again. Of course I have a lot of different friends now, but I still regret losing those to traveling for so long. Even now I LAN a lot and I'm in a good team, I usually wouldn't have time for my friends until I realize I'm neglecting them. SO even if education is put on hold and can be brought back, your "personal life" can be hard to recover. It's just that part that I don't understand, even top players have lives and have time to party and spend time with girlfriends. Many top players take education in the same time, why not do the same?

2011-03-09 01:26

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It also depends on where these players come from. Any Americans know where the players from this team live? If they're from California or somewhere on the West coast its far less of a deal than if they come from the East coast.

2011-03-09 04:56

"wasted a year" what is the point of life in the end... to enjoy it right? I don't understand how a bunch of very young people 19-24 can't take a year of their life to give a shot at something they love to do? They are putting aside some of their obligations, not forgetting them. There is so much time for hard work and stress in life, i think not taking advantage of a very fun and unique opportunity would be more of a waste tbh, unless doing so really screws up your life (which it shouldn't, and won't for these guys)

2011-03-08 19:34

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I agree completely.

2011-03-08 21:55

Your last part is what I was going for in #151 (right over this post). Education can be put on hold (although that may affect when you'll get a stable job for a few years and find a wife...then again I'm in my 20s so I guess that's just my mind) Edit: Though I do agree it's a once in a life time opportunity, just that it's not a good idea to cast things aside. It's the attitude not the idea behind it. It's one thing to try to balance life and a hobby, and to pick one over another.

2011-03-09 01:33

Live your life...not someone else's.

2011-03-08 20:35

if u love something in your life, why wouldnt you try to do it? make it hapeen

2011-03-09 05:56

2011-03-08 11:42

gl guys, truls is beast.

2011-03-08 11:43

Amerifags, where does sgares play? Really liked his awp.

2011-03-08 11:59

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Amerifag here. Sean "sgares" Gares still plays with DINC (team leader steno + pauLy back from vacation with newcomers jstone and aZn). :D)-<

2011-03-08 12:04

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i kinda loled :D

2011-03-08 13:27

#1 is sgares

2011-03-08 22:37

good luck to them :D

2011-03-08 12:18

these guys are awsome hopefully some invites to lans

2011-03-08 12:24

inertia is a damn good player

2011-03-08 12:36

2011-03-08 12:37

wth, look at the house... for those guys ? lol

2011-03-08 12:45

Not sure why people are so quick to critize a team and players they know zero about. They have improved majorly together online already over a shorter period of time. If they stick at it for the full year they will be major contenders with EG, finally someone

2011-03-08 12:47

2011-03-08 12:51

It is disappointing when sponsorship money gets thrown at room-mates rather than real talent. Anyone who thinks this team has more potential than the former-DINC lineup is delusional.

2011-03-08 12:57

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okay that explains everything i guess so btw who is the good friend with the umx org?

2011-03-08 13:18

For anyone reading this, know that this guy was the manager of the former-DINC lineup.

2011-03-08 13:20

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at least one source :D i would say that the old dinc team had more potential than the new team

2011-03-08 13:23

I was?

2011-03-09 00:35

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Oh my bad, sorry, got you mixed up with Freytag for some reason.

2011-03-09 17:33

He was definitely not one of the 3 "managers" and not including the original CTO and CMO "figures" at the start when Loaded had one of the various different CS 1.6 lineups led by Steno which is now DINCNESS (another new lineup). He was just a staffer but you do make a good principle point and a rare comment based on the full facts and background.

2011-03-09 01:27

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Mixed him up with Freytag, my bad sorry.

2011-03-09 17:34

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No I don't sell out to EG like Freytag, sorry bro.

2011-03-10 00:46

yeah won once against a wounded eg team and umx picks ruins up :D facepalm not the smartest decision beside that they already lost to revolution sports and backfire/idemise but we will see if they get more experience and skill to do some damage against the int teams

2011-03-08 13:21

nice

2011-03-08 13:30

i don't understand why they don't live in Europe for a year? would'nt even be that much more expensive over a year

2011-03-08 13:38

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++ and can practice vs european teams aswell!

2011-03-08 14:38

Yeah, they could've just bought a apartment in sweden or anywhere in scandinavia, most poeple do talk english here anyways, plus it costs as much, difference is they'll get more competition here.

2011-03-08 19:53

GL iNERTIA (:

2011-03-08 13:44

good luck

2011-03-08 14:06

iNErtIA dA KING !!! gl

2011-03-08 14:15

gl :>

2011-03-08 14:24

umx-gaming.com/usa/images/rsgallery/orig.. umx-gaming.com/usa/images/rsgallery/orig.. umx-gaming.com/usa/images/rsgallery/orig.. Better conditions than Na'Vi ? At least they look to have more space

2011-03-08 14:30

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really cool

2011-03-08 14:37

Wow! What a house!

2011-03-08 15:01

really sweet place. home sweet home =)

2011-03-08 15:10

flowsicK looks like a real gangsta shit umx.sandlin.com.tw/usa/images/up_images/..

2011-03-08 14:28

I see what UMX did there. Pasha will now think twice before facing dizzaman. Good move.

2011-03-08 14:57

newbzzz

2011-03-08 15:04

Its cool to see. I grew up playing against these guys back in the day. Can't believe they are still at it, but I wish them the best of luck.

2011-03-08 15:32

Nice that they get the chance to do this, but i doubt they will achieve anything greater then maybe top3 spots in national competitions.

2011-03-08 15:48

gl guys!

2011-03-08 15:54

sick lineup GL !

2011-03-08 15:56

Inertia was on Loaded and Winout with Rambo.Also the Ruins team competed at Dreamhack and that other event that took place at the same venue.

2011-03-08 16:08

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No. lol.

2011-03-08 16:41

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I meant arbalat cup and ESEA finals when mentioning ruins <a href="hltv.org/?pageid=182&eventid=603">hltv.org/?pageid=182&eventid=603</a> And Inertia on Loaded <a href="complexitygaming.com/news/1416/">complexitygaming.com/news/1416/</a> Inertia on WinOut <a href="sk-gaming.com/content/30426-zid_rambo_jo..">sk-gaming.com/content/30426-zid_rambo_jo..</a> So bit me scott.

2011-03-08 20:44

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I didn't edit the previous post and I can't edit so here are better version. Arblat and ESEA finals Ruins was at www.hltv.org/?pageid=182&eventid=603 Inertia on Loaded www.complexitygaming.com/news/1416/ Inetria on WinOut with Rambo ww.sk-gaming.com/content/30426-zid_rambo_join_WinOut COuldn't edit my previous post

2011-03-08 21:06

damn, if my team and i have a big opportunity like that.. <3

2011-03-08 16:10

I think its a good choice. Players on this team are good individually and have been part of teams which have got good results against top teams like EG in US. With this kind of intensive practice, maybe they will make that proverbial leap. GL.

2011-03-08 16:13

New top-teams orga?

2011-03-08 16:19

Looking at the success of past and present US counterstrike teams I don't think it's a wise decision for lesser a known (worldwide-wise) and lesser skilled team to drop school and work to train for a year.

2011-03-08 16:21

iNERTIA :DDD

2011-03-08 16:34

Is this the same UMX from taiwan?

2011-03-08 16:40

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yeah. gl guys.

2011-03-08 16:57

Ultimax Gaming is an organization with two professional Counter-Strike 1.6 teams. UMX.TW = Taiwan UMX.US = United States of America Stay tuned!

2011-03-09 01:33

probably would have been better investing in some mid-lvl european team just below the top like eSahara or SpraynPray or maybe TCM. Since it seems like they can give extraordinry conditions for getting really far and into the top, just like it happened to Na'Vi.

2011-03-08 16:54

3 replies

eshara good org.

2011-03-08 16:58

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but as far as i know they don't get this kind of support.

2011-03-08 19:15

Couldn't agree more.

2011-03-08 19:22

2011-03-08 16:58

Cool. GL to them :)

2011-03-08 17:07

UMX wanted to boost the American scene... hence why we didn't pick any other 'known' teams from Europe... hopefully these guys would go hard at it and impress us : ) good luck boys <3 sLip

2011-03-08 17:12

This is big chance for them to succes, i dont know anyone from this team, but if they got this oppurunity and will not be top2 @ USA then i dont know..

2011-03-08 17:27

there is better teams in America tbh..

2011-03-08 17:30

flowsick, dizzaman and inertia are quite beasty. gl

2011-03-08 17:33

best of luck

2011-03-08 17:54

my flow sicker, your dough thick well my dough thicker (8) go go flowsick

2011-03-08 18:08

umx-gaming.com/usa/images/rsgallery/orig.. Who is the giant to the far right? Haha, that is awesome :D

2011-03-08 18:40

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dizzaman. i think its a mix of the other players being quite short, and him being quite tall.

2011-03-08 19:38

1 reply

Haha, allright :p

2011-03-08 19:39

That picture portays USA in an excellent way. 3/5 are fat.

2011-03-08 20:50

5 replies

facepalm

2011-03-08 21:29

4 replies

Really?

2011-03-08 22:01

3 replies

Yes

2011-03-08 22:14

2 replies

Then I have to facepalm at you facepalming. Got to love McDonalds and Burgerking though!

2011-03-08 22:23

1 reply

gotta love jus the cheese burgers :D

2011-03-09 09:14

gl i guess

2011-03-08 18:42

good luck

2011-03-08 18:47

good luck and have fun guys.

2011-03-08 18:47

Should be "Al Bundy" instead of "Ric Bundy"

2011-03-08 18:49

nice car

2011-03-08 18:53

good luck :D

2011-03-08 18:53

gl guys gogo:)

2011-03-08 19:38

Why not pick up a better team? ...

2011-03-08 20:11

Who are these guys?!

2011-03-08 20:30

Truls, dizzaman, intertia, and flowsick are all pretty good, and easily top tier in america, as far as slip goes I don't know anything about him, can an american give some real insight for me please? As mine is just hear say.

2011-03-08 20:44

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sLip is really good, definitely one of the stronger on the team imo.

2011-03-08 22:02

I don’t understand why all these kids who would never have a chance to play at this level hate lol you talk as if your better then them..

2011-03-08 20:53

The North American scene is dead, waste of time and money.

2011-03-08 21:07

top3 easily, mby they can take over Eg...

2011-03-08 21:31

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top3 yea why not, but EG doubt it highly

2011-03-09 02:59

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with good will and good conditions (which they have) its possible imo :)

2011-03-09 03:19

we did an interview with dizzaman here: esfiworld.com/cs/news/ultimax-gaming-sig..

2011-03-08 21:31

congrats boyzzzz :D

2011-03-08 21:47

dizzaman and truls to out-awp everyone especially the guy above me

2011-03-08 22:08

Don't notice eSAHARA because i don't think they are able and have the motivation to train 12hours per day :) goodfornothing evolution thomz & co could be a better option, anyway if this guys have 1% of potential, they could go far with intensive training (but not in USA campement) :)

2011-03-08 23:04

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GFN is playing with 9spot on SK.usa and thomz has been a ghost as of late, probably never gonna recover from the epic forget your passport fuck up.

2011-03-08 23:36

7 replies

yeah but thomz is fucking godlike so eat shit hater :D. EG.thoMz

2011-03-09 00:36

1 reply

He isn't godlike, he is retard and you should eat your own shit. :P

2011-03-10 15:57

thomz was only recently unbanned from league play for playing s0nny's account last season, so that's why he's been 'a ghost' so far. He's too good not to be picked up if he's planning to keep playing competitively. Besides, he just lost his passport on a bus to the airport. Shit happens.

2011-03-09 04:59

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i really miss thomz0 and his sick game style. hope he makes return. EG perhaps ;o -- gratz UMX team though.

2011-03-09 05:37

I don't think thoMz would personally waste his time on any team in USA after playing with compLexity besides maybe playing for EG when Storm retires. That whole passport situation was dumb but over exaggerated. coL had a lot of problems prior to that, evolution and hero hating each other.. drama drama. As far as it looks dboorN Irukandji and thoMz are still ESEA buddy friends so I would hope they go for him instead of really sub-par replacement 5ths.

2011-03-09 05:29

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i sure hope not.. thomz never plays cs and pauLy, inertia, and hostile are all better than thomz for that 3rd rifle in the team. i also wouldnt chance that thomz hasnt played for 5 months and would be able to get to what he was

2011-03-09 10:22

1 reply

2011-03-10 16:00

congratz and gl

2011-03-08 23:24

They alredy picked up the former 9StorM team so iguess this is round 2...and why would UMX pick up eSahara? why is eSahara mentioned in every single organization topic...they have a sponsor and team and are happy...cant anyone figure that out? sLip is OK not as good as the rest deff the weakest part of the team next to truls..idk if they are a top 3 team in US...iNERTia is way washed up IMO but dizzaman is one of the best fraggers in the US and flowsick is on par.

2011-03-09 00:25

gl flowsicK

2011-03-09 01:19

a51 team is still stronger!

2011-03-09 01:56

they are top 5 team in US and UMX is 3nd in Asia

2011-03-09 02:06

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Saying UMX.US is top 5 in US is meaningless because the gap from maybe the top two and every other US team is huge. Just look at ESEA-Invite; the 5th best US team, ttb, is 3-6. Plus one win is against a team that is 3-7 and the other two are forfeit wins. They're going to get moved down to ESEA-Main next season. Right now, EG and iDemise (formerly BackFire) are the only two US teams that are consistently very good. Maybe with a year to dedicate to CS this UMX.US team can get up to their level, though. They're one of a few US teams made up of good players who just haven't played together very long. Part of the problem with cs in the US is teams stay together for one season of ESEA-Invite then break up. Just look at sLip's team history, which is a perfect example of how players jump around: esea.net/users/216300?tab=history. Now that they're signed by UMX for a year and live together, there's less chance of them breaking up at the end of the season, though I guarantee they would change out at least two players without the UMX sponsorship.

2011-03-09 05:21

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has it

2011-03-09 07:07

pretty sure he means top 5 NA. And ttb is definitely not the 5th best team in the US.

2011-03-09 09:03

And then the jump from top US team to the international scene is hilarious. EG is the only one who can compete and usually they don't even fare that well.

2011-03-09 20:48

sign virgo prom1se GoodRifle Rita &JK!

2011-03-09 06:20

2 replies

Visa problems is a huge turn off for any organizations. It's a pain in ass to send 5 in a group out of China, that sucks :(

2011-03-09 09:24

1 reply

sad but true

2011-03-09 11:21

Goodluck gents... hs0! ^^

2011-03-09 08:05

wow, rly nice house. GL!

2011-03-09 08:15

I'm jelaous. :\ gl guys

2011-03-09 10:43

U$A

2011-03-09 10:46

truls and dizzaman are the core of the team. won main together and been top 4 team in the usa last 4 seasons. this is chemistry. my ranking (invite mid tier) inertia carried winout with entry frags to 4th place at arbelat cup dallas. my ranking (star player) flowsick was on the dinc / loaded team who was top 3 in the usa for 3 seasons including beating complexity on lan and placing second tho i always thought he wasnt on par with others. my ranking ( top main player ) sLip was on the dons and placed 4th last season. dont know much else but from what i hear hes very solid. i also seen he pecks invite kids in the head. my ranking ( potential ) this team should fair well given this oppertunity

2011-03-09 11:00

not good !

2011-03-09 12:32

pro gaming is different from entertain team, they'll find it difficult. good luck!!

2011-03-09 13:17

Team has potential but the entire US scene is a joke. ESEA is the only league in the US and the invite division just can’t seem to hold it together. Ever year there are 12-16 teams that start in invite and by the end of the season over half of the teams are dead with 2-3 dying before the season even starts. The invite division is full of drama and half of the players in it is giant trolls and douche bags. Professionalism for the most part in the US scene is a joke, teams get hijacked, many don’t follow league rules, the teams use ringer constantly and it is just a shit show. Then in general all of US CS is full of bad mannered, immature elitists who believe if they don’t win their division in 1 season it is time to reform the roster, which causes massive amounts of hate and drama.

2011-03-09 16:18

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ahahah troll

2011-03-09 16:55

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Nah it's true.

2011-03-09 18:33

sadly have to agree with you this has been the state of online cs There hasnt been respect for USA cs since the great 4 were playing (Col. 3D. GC. and Aggression.)

2011-03-09 18:45

This is all 100% true lol, well said.

2011-03-09 20:40

the US scene is definitely trying to make a comeback with this type of announcement. Although coL went in another direction with their brazilian lineup, it brings back the concept of the old CGS house that coL rented. Also the JMC house. Now, if these players can live together will be a different story. Don't want to see another CuZ incident :P

2011-03-09 19:14

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The US scene has been trying to make a comeback ever since CGS died and that has worked out SO well. This team will be lucky to make it through the next ESEA season without breaking up.

2011-03-09 20:46

The attitude of the competitive CS players in the US needs to change before anything can really be accomplished. I mean most teams can’t get through a match without talking shit and seem to just want to make it as public as possible when it happens to try and make the community pick sides and shun the loser of the argument not even the match. There needs to be an age limit set for ESEA and a policy on manner and conduct that will result in some serious penalties that could potential affect the outcomes of the matches.

2011-03-09 22:40

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It's funny how much better the NA scene was before ESEA and pay-to-play were the only things left. I think a big portion of the problem is that before CGS there were always local LAN tournaments. They weren't huge, but it helped a lot of the players get LAN experience before CPL or WCG qualifers or whatever. Now theres only a handful of LANs around (and dwindling), so most players only LAN experience comes from making ESEA-invite finals which is only a few times a year. Of course coupled with the fact that most of the NA community spends time trolling and measuring their e-peens with each other, all the people who ever were worth a shit gave up a long time ago. It's unfortunate that a new game hasn't been able to compete with CS, it would at least allow for a fresh start again because the CS community in NA is ruined.

2011-03-09 23:12

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I don't think it matters about LAN experience because most of esea invite are the same rehashed teams over and over that there is rarely any new players that show up. If you were to have the esea playoffs today the top 6 teams all consist of players who were at the last 2-3 esea finals except for maybe 1-2.

2011-03-10 15:56