Xperia PLAY reaches playoffs

23-4-2011 15:12

Eight teams moves on from the second group-stage at Xperia PLAY, entering the final stages of the tournament, which will be played in a best-of-three map single-elimination bracket.

The second group-stage has settled, seeing sixteen teams being cut to just eight remaining. In the "Group of Death" also known as Group B, Lions came short of scoring any points, losing to SK and fnatic, the Swedes decided to leave WO against munkka. SK got the bragging rights against fnatic, sealing a 16-10 win for the top spot.

Danish stronghold mTw topped their group, despite a loss against Online Kingdom in the last match of the group. Joining them in the playoffs are Moscow Five, who advance based on a better round difference than Online Kingdom, with who they were in a three-way tie with (alongside mTw).

In Group D RG-Esports secured first place in the group, following a 16-14 win against TCM-Gaming on de_inferno. The Danes will despite the loss move on to the playoffs.

The last match to finish was Frag eXecutors against mousesports, a battle where the two teams tied, meaning the Polish team advance in first place, with the German squad following in second.

The picture for the playoffs has been painted and the bracket looks as follows:

Frag eXecutors	vs.	TCM-Gaming
mTw	vs.	fnatic
mousesports	vs.	RG-Esports
SK Gaming	vs.	Moscow Five

The quarter-finals is scheduled to start at 18:00CET, with semi-finals to follow at 21:00CET. Grand Final and third place decider is scheduled to begin around midnight.

go sk

2011-04-23 15:12

sk <3

2011-04-23 15:13

good

2011-04-23 15:13

go m5

2011-04-23 15:13

M5 wut?

2011-04-23 15:13

10 replies

If 3 teams have equal rounds then 4th team is kicked off and they count rounds between those 3 teams

2011-04-23 15:15

9 replies

that makes no sense, of course all games matter when it happens in groups...

2011-04-23 15:16

6 replies

Exactly, this is a total joke. All matches care, otherwise, why the hell playing them???? Why did M5 play last match? there was no need then..

2011-04-23 15:19

2 replies

because if they lost that match they wouldnt be on the same points?

2011-04-23 15:20

Lol

2011-04-23 15:26

ROFL. It's called 3-way-tie rule and it exists like...FOREVER, in all sports.

2011-04-23 17:23

2 replies

who cares? This tournament's rulebook states the other way, which they broke by following some random danish lan rulebook

2011-04-23 17:31

1 reply

I don't know what their rulebook says, but 3-way-tie is how it should be done, not that 'all teams' matches count' like you stated. That was my point. If they ignored their rulebook, that's fail tho.

2011-04-23 20:09

NO! it appears that it is result between two team that counts. In this case M5(RD=2) and Online Kindom(RD=7). 2<7 but M5 def OK.

2011-04-23 17:03

1 reply

but OK beat mTw? :)

2011-04-25 14:26

open dreamteam

2011-04-23 15:13

5 replies

2011-04-23 15:14

2011-04-23 15:18

+1111

2011-04-23 15:28

open plz!!!

2011-04-23 15:36

can u guys open the f* dreamteammarket? ffs its up to date and u do not open it this sucks !

2011-04-23 17:09

fx fx what you gonna do when they come for you

2011-04-23 15:13

GL SK!! , btw mTw vs fnatic omg!

2011-04-23 15:14

1 reply

gl beatty))))

2011-04-23 15:23

go mTw <33333

2011-04-23 15:14

nice Gl fx

2011-04-23 15:14

OK?

2011-04-23 15:14

good luck fnatic!! :)

2011-04-23 15:14

How about dreamteam? Will it be opened?

2011-04-23 15:14

FNATIC = It's REVANGE time. Plz fix your computers, so they dont crash middle of a important round

2011-04-23 15:14

OK had a better round difference than M5, but the admins decided that the rounds from the face! game didn't suddenly count? :) so M5 went through instead of OK. Why on earth did they even play the game if the rounds didn't count/matter? Every single game should count if it's a groupstage. Great lan, great admins. What a joke.

2011-04-23 15:14

41 replies

no, its always like that in a three way tie, only the invidual matches counts

2011-04-23 15:16

Why are u insulting admins? :DD Actually, this system is at every lan, not the first time when it's counted in the way like that

2011-04-23 15:16

11 replies

Because apparently the admins ignored the players when they confronted them. I just find it funny, a team that did well and better than the other team is out of the tournament. OK beat mTw 16-8 and m5 lost to mTw 7-16.

2011-04-23 15:21

10 replies

Rules are rules, and, I think that those admins weren't the ones who invented those rules (they've been used many times before, even in IEM). So..

2011-04-23 15:23

1 reply

The original rules stated that they were counting the round difference in all series. They just changed it when the three-way tie came.

2011-04-23 15:26

Ahh and why is OK better? M5 won them :D

2011-04-23 15:23

6 replies

I never said that they were better, they DID better at this tournament. Had a greater round difference (+5) or something and won the strongest team in the group.

2011-04-23 15:26

5 replies

Yeah its sad I would of liked to see OK advance too. :/

2011-04-23 15:36

still they wouldn't have had that much of a chance agianst SK

2011-04-23 17:35

3 replies

How is that relevant? They should've still advanced to the playoffs, regardless of the upcoming opponent.

2011-04-23 17:39

2 replies

well ye your correct tho i think M5 have got a better chance agianst SK than OK would not to be mean but thats just my thoughts

2011-04-23 18:22

1 reply

It doesn't matter if they would win or do any damage or not, rules are rules and they are made to be followed. Despite the result of the upcoming matches.

2011-04-23 18:59

But also, M5 beat OK 16-7..

2011-04-23 15:24

#32

2011-04-23 15:17

It's the exact same in IEM.

2011-04-23 15:18

19 replies

thats not an excuse for why such a stupid and senseless rule exists

2011-04-23 15:22

1 reply

I'm not speaking for the rules here, in the group they should have played all 30 rounds, if a tie-breaker should be decided by RD.

2011-04-23 15:32

Are you at IEM right now? No? Thought so. If their rule set says something you SHOULD follow that rule even if YOU disagree with it, they made the rules (which say stop at 16 & count the +/- from ALL matches) and should stick to them. PS. If mTw lost by 2 more rounds, 100% sure this rule would not have applied because there is simply NO WAY mTw would have dropped out when the rules were on their side. //My two cents, won't be answering so no need to respond

2011-04-23 16:45

14 replies

2011-04-23 16:45

2011-04-23 16:47

cry cry cry :D

2011-04-23 16:49

I'm simply referring to the fact that the rule, which ruled out OK, is the same used at IEM. I'm not picking sides, nor do I agree with how the rulebook for the competition (Xperia PLAY) is set up. The rulebook had a flaw, we've seen it before, I genuinely just hope tournament could invest the time needed, producing a proper rulebook, to avoid such things. It's a 10year old game for crying out loud.

2011-04-23 17:16

4 replies

but dude how can it be changed halfway through the tournament just when the situation occurs? it should have been done before.

2011-04-23 18:02

2 replies

I dont think it changed, as far as I'm concerned, the was a flaw in the rulebook, as they hadnt copied all lines from their usual rulebook, which is SLAP(LIVE) one, the same organizers who run that even, execute the Xperia PLAY tournament.

2011-04-23 18:15

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well that makes sense. i still feel like OK deserved to go through this time, they performed great. it's been a while since a finnish team did well offline so i guess that explains the frustration

2011-04-23 18:21

imo they should drop the grupestage and the bo3 playoffs... and just go for double elimenation bo1.... the first groupstage was fine to find the weak teams from the pros... and there have been many times when there have been teams faceing off way to early where they would have been the final game etc... games like navi vs mtw early in the playoffs... and many groups of death... and with a double elimenation bo1 the 2 best teams will allways meet the in the final (allmost) plus 1 game in a bo3 can be extremly long (wcg 2010)... and a double elimenation bo1 tourny is much much more spectating freindly sry for my bad english

2011-04-23 18:49

2011-04-23 17:43

2011-04-23 18:17

Sad that you are out. But live with that, follow the rules at the lan??

2011-04-23 18:24

1 reply

lurppis isn't playing for Online Kingdom :)

2011-04-23 18:59

2011-04-23 21:48

Hey Nix0n, will dreamteam market be open? :>

2011-04-23 16:48

1 reply

2011-04-23 17:11

wtf? hahaha it isnt first time that it happen, man. in every tournament this rule is on.

2011-04-23 15:19

1 reply

You don't have to copy everyone else, I got it already.

2011-04-23 15:22

I think it sucks aswell. OK should of moved on since they beat Lions and mTw. imo.

2011-04-23 15:29

Admins is shit :)

2011-04-23 15:40

Please stop whining because you come from Finland. You are a joke! you are Out, live with that or don't come another time!!

2011-04-23 18:22

1 reply

Please read through the comments thoroughly before replying to me again, thanks. I do not mind if a favorite team of mine is out or not. The rules were not followed and that is both unfair and unprofessional. My nationality is irrelevant.

2011-04-23 19:02

and why the fuck is m5 there? Ok had gteater round difference than them. And they say the match vs face doesnt count, what kind of rule is that? There isnt that kind of rule..

2011-04-23 15:14

14 replies

Because face weren't tied on points. It's not a new rule. Points difference in many tournaments is only taken between tied up teams.

2011-04-23 15:16

2011-04-23 15:17

But it is a 3way tie, meaning matches against face! dosnt count. It's the exact same in IEM.

2011-04-23 15:18

8 replies

Then they should make a new rule that if there's a 3way tie those 3 teams have to play eachother again in a bo3 where they all meat eachother. But i guess that would take some time ^^

2011-04-23 15:30

7 replies

Had the played all 30 rounds, it would have been a total different scenario.

2011-04-23 15:31

6 replies

Why didn't they do that then ?

2011-04-23 15:33

5 replies

To save time I suppose, honestly don't know, but thats my guess.

2011-04-23 15:35

4 replies

simple overtime could fix this i guess =/ this happened to x6 too? difference of rounds tied to mousesports?

2011-04-23 15:44

2 replies

no x6 had one win, one loss and one draw. mouz had 2 draws and one win

2011-04-23 15:49

x6 had 1point, mouz 5points.

2011-04-23 15:49

that's a shame :/

2011-04-23 15:51

because m5 > OK 16-7

2011-04-23 15:41

2 replies

that's the only match OK lost in this tournament. they beat lions and mtw, m5 was defeated by mtw and also tcm

2011-04-23 18:08

1 reply

and? m5 > ok 16-7

2011-04-23 18:11

fnatic vs mTw ;>

2011-04-23 15:15

1 reply

fnatic - you must not fail!

2011-04-23 15:17

so Lions left without even playing munkka?

2011-04-23 15:15

1 reply

Yes.

2011-04-23 15:16

M5 and mTw? AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A FAIL TOURNAMENT! WHY THEY PASSED? I WANT A VALID REASON AND A PRINT IN RULES BOOK PLEASE! WHY THE GAME BETWEEN M5 VS. FACE! DIDN'T COUNT? ONE MORE TIME, FINNISH TEAM GOT DOWNTRODDEN, NOW COPENHAGEN GAMES. Welcome to Russian Mafia! 2000e and you pass! Deal or no deal?

2011-04-23 15:16

20 replies

don't be stupid, it's like this in almost every tournament

2011-04-23 15:19

7 replies

Don't insult me because i didn't do to you, thanks!

2011-04-23 15:21

6 replies

well, he insulted u with reason...

2011-04-23 15:28

5 replies

#care @ irc.quakenet.org

2011-04-23 15:30

4 replies

hae

2011-04-23 15:31

2 replies

In English please, hackers.

2011-04-23 15:32

1 reply

haeheahe

2011-04-23 15:34

Oooh. Mad boy. =(

2011-04-23 16:29

Moscow Five vs Online Kingdom 16 - 7 dust2 Group C i think this why.

2011-04-23 15:22

3 replies

Sorry russian, when did you win against mTw? Hummmmm, you MUST do other deal mate, still love you mafian

2011-04-23 15:23

2 replies

Do you really think OK stronger than mTw? Maybe mTw just didn't want to strain, when they already in play-off? OK is a good team, but M5 is better (16-7). And stop this trolling.

2011-04-23 15:36

1 reply

Yeah yeah, they almost didn't pass and they lost because they weren't playing concentrated (ahahah). And I understand CS, so I must admit that mTw are stronger

2011-04-23 15:38

cmon man, OK is not going to procede in the next round. face! has lost to everyone; why should it be counted to the round difference... Imagine other teams except M5 were playing with them starting on the most preferable side... and M5 on nuke started as T... it's the same as starting on train on T... If M5 were playing on CT first the score would have been smth like 16-5... and them OK is also out..

2011-04-23 15:24

4 replies

According to the tournament, every game counts to the round difference: "Round difference in ALL series".

2011-04-23 15:28

1 reply

Meh, counting round difference is kind of dumb in this situation, it's more of "how bad did you beat an awful team" and because they're not playing all 30 rounds they can get started on T side train or something and get screwed because of it. They should have had this in the rulebook though (not sure if they did or not, but most people claim no), as it's kind of unfair to arbitrarily make up a rule, even if it makes sense.

2011-04-23 16:57

OK started as T against mTw and won 10-5. Not a good argument. Imagine if they had start a CT ^^ it's a stupid argument

2011-04-23 15:32

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the meaning of the statement was if the team loses to everyone, why should we count them in the round difference... It's not the case now, but imagine if 3 teams tied up in 15-15 in all matches with themselves and won against another 4th team like 16-0 16-1 16-2, u think it's really fair that the team who won 16-2 is out?

2011-04-23 16:38

I think more ppl would take u srsly if u stopped raping ur caps lock..

2011-04-23 16:14

1 reply

Sorry mate, it was rusty eheh

2011-04-23 16:17

hltv.org/news/6637-xperia-play-reaches-p..

2011-04-23 16:48

Fx mTw mouz SK then Fx 1-2 mTw SK 2-0 mouz then mTw 1-2 SK Fx 2-0 mouz =D

2011-04-23 15:15

3 replies

2011-04-23 15:26

RAGE > Mouz

2011-04-23 16:31

1 reply

Maybe. We will see =)

2011-04-23 16:38

mtw fnatic rg mouz really close games these 2. Other 2 should probably be easy...

2011-04-23 15:15

and the stream better work by that time they broadcast

2011-04-23 15:16

easy for sk!!! gogogogogo

2011-04-23 15:16

GG Xperia admins :)

2011-04-23 15:16

2 replies

2011-04-23 15:17

Calm down, it has always been like that. #27

2011-04-23 15:18

lmao, retarded admins

2011-04-23 15:16

what the fuck is problem OK had more rounds and didnt advance?

2011-04-23 15:17

FX,fnatic,RG,SK

2011-04-23 15:17

go go mouz

2011-04-23 15:17

nice, gl sk!

2011-04-23 15:18

ALL M5 HATERS #15 #30

2011-04-23 15:18

omgmgogmgk0og.. what ever..

2011-04-23 15:18

what WO means ? thanks

2011-04-23 15:19

1 reply

walk-over when game isn't played

2011-04-23 15:20

haha , the same thing that happened with OK and M5 happened with FireGamers, fnatic and one chinese team.

2011-04-23 15:19

Haha lots of finish tears... go read rules, little whiners :DDD Btw M5 will lose very soon, dont be so angry!)

2011-04-23 15:20

9 replies

What rules? I don't see it being mentioned anywhere.

2011-04-23 15:22

1 reply

Me neither. I smell corruption.

2011-04-23 17:48

Haha of course you'll go on defending the russians. The tournaments own rules say "Round difference in ALL series". The admins/arrangers even said to one of the teams something like "have you counted the round correctly because, EVERY GAME IN THE GROUP COUNTS". This is what I find irritating.

2011-04-23 15:24

actually in the tournaments rules it states that OK should advance but admins decided to use some SLAP-LAN rules in this case for no reason...

2011-04-23 15:28

4 replies

Where is that stated? I can't find any mentioning of this scenario in the ruleset.

2011-04-23 15:29

3 replies

SETT.fi quoted the rules in their newspost with "Round difference in ALL series" if there is a 3-way-tie.

2011-04-23 15:33

2 replies

But where is that ruleset? Is that a more detailed one they have been given at the LAN? The ruleset on copenhagengames.com doesn't mention the scenario as far as I can tell.

2011-04-23 15:43

1 reply

i think so coz SETT.fi is there too and they said they checked it out from somewhere

2011-04-23 16:13

What rules? Please show them.

2011-04-23 15:33

2011-04-23 15:21

1 reply

:D Nevermind captain, we still love you!

2011-04-23 15:22

go m5

2011-04-23 15:21

"the decision was even made against the own rules"

2011-04-23 15:22

GO M5

2011-04-23 15:22

FX-RG SK-fnatic final: FX-SK

2011-04-23 15:22

GL SK and Fnatic

2011-04-23 15:22

final fx vs mtw/sk

2011-04-23 15:23

fcking russians, lets go and take our karelian back.

2011-04-23 15:24

5 replies

"Deep inside, you cry cry cry"

2011-04-23 15:29

1 reply

weren't you supposed to conquer finland in the war

2011-04-23 15:30

finlands is russian territory from 1809

2011-04-23 15:37

it's not russians fault, idiot. if u think it's unfair blame rules/admins.

2011-04-23 15:51

1 reply

Russians used money to pay them selves to the finals.

2011-04-23 17:51

Where are all the hltv-demos ?

2011-04-23 15:24

2 replies

We are extremely busy, all demos will be added after the event.

2011-04-23 15:34

1 reply

Could you please just upload the demos from quarter finals to grand final then? That would help a lot :)

2011-04-23 18:40

GL SK and mTw!

2011-04-23 15:25

Do I see some anger from the finnish folks in here :D?

2011-04-23 15:25

Where is the rules? OK Should advance in every way unless the rules say that the winner of the match OK - M5 was going threw.

2011-04-23 15:26

11 replies

what rule says that ok should advance?

2011-04-23 15:31

10 replies

What rules said that M5 should advance? I want a prove please

2011-04-23 15:34

9 replies

rule from IEM?

2011-04-23 15:34

8 replies

But this is Copenhagen Games. Another fail by you! Keep going

2011-04-23 15:35

7 replies

lol, that rule is used like a default. now go in a wc and cry.

2011-04-23 15:37

6 replies

Another fail by you! hehehe you like it, ain't you? Quote me the rule of COPENHAGEN GAMES that can prove it!

2011-04-23 15:39

5 replies

well, since u know cph games rules why dont u copy to me rule that says that ok should advance. ill be very pleased if u do that.

2011-04-23 15:40

4 replies

SETT.fi quoted the rules in their newspost with "Round difference in ALL series" if there is a 3-way-tie.

2011-04-23 15:44

3 replies

ok, listen now, dumbass. rule they used here is universal default(!) for cs tournaments, since iem using it, or at least admins think that is. thats also logic to me, and im objective here. and thing that sett.fi quoted has a valid source? if it has then give me to see it, please. and, i think that they r not that stupid to set some rules, and then use different ones l8r.

2011-04-23 15:50

2 replies

You're wasting my time replying you :x brb

2011-04-23 15:52

1 reply

no, u r wasting my time. go cry somewhere else.

2011-04-23 15:54

Left side will go trough

2011-04-23 15:27

FOR MOTHER RUSSIA ! STFU FINLAND

2011-04-23 15:27

1 reply

change ur flag russian

2011-04-23 16:05

It's sad that dreamteam wouldn't open again :(

2011-04-23 15:28

suomi! suomi! learn smth about system, and then whine.. fu*king fungirls. this system is the same even in basketball, hockey and other sports. :)

2011-04-23 15:28

12 replies

What the fuck are you saying, OK should be advancing by the rules.

2011-04-23 15:30

8 replies

no, they dont. and this is why the arent. count the rounds by ur self.

2011-04-23 15:31

6 replies

Count the rounds :D?, OK had better round difference than M5

2011-04-23 15:33

5 replies

yes mate but its a 3 way tie, so only the invidual matches count, it has always been like that. and as nixon stated up its the same in IEM.

2011-04-23 15:35

yes u moron. mTw: +1 M5: 0 OK: -1 whats the problem? hang ur self.

2011-04-23 15:38

3 replies

Yea but in CS rounds OK had more in the first place.

2011-04-23 15:43

2 replies

dount count the match with face in a three way tie.

2011-04-23 15:44

1 reply

"three way tie" like i havent heard that one before?, f*ck russians just f*ck them.. OK were better than M5 -period

2011-04-23 18:57

Youre wrong

2011-04-23 15:34

actually no, it's not the same in other sports :D if 3 teams are tied in points and a won b, b won c and c won a, it's always straight goal/point difference which counts :)

2011-04-23 15:47

2 replies

yes but there's a D here

2011-04-23 15:51

1 reply

yes there is, that's my point no?

2011-04-24 03:09

Rg=)

2011-04-23 15:28

final mtw / fx vs sk

2011-04-23 15:29

express your anger fins fans !!

2011-04-23 15:29

1 reply

They have right to be angry imo. 3way tie sucks. pretty impressive to beat mTw 16-8.

2011-04-23 15:32

FX ftw !

2011-04-23 15:30

WHEN DT WILL BE OPEN

2011-04-23 15:31

sett.fi/?q=node/935

2011-04-23 15:32

These teams will win: SK mTw FX RAGE

2011-04-23 15:32

OK ?

2011-04-23 15:33

1 reply

got fucked by some non-existing rules. The actual rules say: COUNT ROUNDS

2011-04-23 15:34

dear young finish boys, If your team was in play-off, then you wouldn't now dont cry about the rules. And dont say that it is not

2011-04-23 15:36

1 reply

nice english

2011-04-23 15:58

3 teams have 6 points and it's three - way tie, if 3 teams had difference number of points OK vs FACE would count! i also feel sory for OK but that's the way it is finish guys!

2011-04-23 15:34

1 reply

The tournament broke its own rules. It was said from the very beginning that RD counts in all situations in every series. When the arrangers were confronted they suddenly applied a rule from SLAP that the match between the tied teams counts or something, and not RD in any way anymore.

2011-04-23 15:37

m5 have less rounds than OK wtf?

2011-04-23 15:35

1 reply

haha ye feel sry for these OK guys , i can imagine how they feeling right now. they played amazingly throughout the tournament , beating Lions and mTw :) and then they got robbed like this..

2011-04-23 17:23

Recent matches OK vs mTw (16-8) OK vs Moscow Five (7-16) OK vs face! (16-8) OK vs PULSIVE (16-2) OK vs Lions (16-12)

2011-04-23 15:35

Well the admins broke their own rule "Round difference in all-series". nice=)

2011-04-23 15:35

Damn, hard bracket to FX [if they win TCM] mTw of fnatic xDDDD GOGO FX! I hope they start playing a good game since now, becuase till now they played normal[bad] cs! in name of NEO!!!

2011-04-23 15:37

1 reply

i would rather say it will waaaaay harder for their opponents to beat them

2011-04-23 15:46

i dont understand. you mean last match of the group dosnt matter? is it like this in most of the tournaments? well i can understand they need to make their own rules in cs. because it would suck if they had same rules as football or ice-hockey.

2011-04-23 15:38

Open DT Market plz. ;)

2011-04-23 15:39

loord highlight pls ;d

2011-04-23 15:39

mtw vs fnatic hmm :)

2011-04-23 15:40

semis ... fx vs mtw rg vs sk

2011-04-23 15:41

SETT.fi quoted the rules in their newspost with "Round difference in ALL series"

2011-04-23 15:41

2 replies

2011-04-23 15:42

Ye thats true, and then the admins broke the rule.. Then they had a discussion with the head arranger of the event about this, but he couldn't change the admins' decisions for some reason.

2011-04-23 15:45

mTw and fnatic For the win!!!

2011-04-23 15:42

Yes, that rule can be found in many previous tournaments. But the rulebook for this particular tournament says "Round difference in ALL series." We have the right to be frustrated.

2011-04-23 15:44

fnatic !!!!!!! go go go !!!!!!!! \m/

2011-04-23 15:44

Will the transfer market open again before playoffs start ?

2011-04-23 15:45

OK would've lost, like M5 will, against SK anyways. Still pretty lame to leave one match out of calculations in case of a tie.

2011-04-23 15:45

2 replies

Like they would have lost against mTw right? stop stating those things, like they would have lost against Lions right?...seriously, that's a brainless comment.

2011-04-23 15:47

5.-8. : 2.500 dkkr. / ~ 335 euro (cash payment) 9.place - 0euros 8.Place - 355euros 355 >>>>>>>>>>> 0

2011-04-23 15:50

Single elimination, freak play offs begin!;)

2011-04-23 15:45

Russian mafia.. "okay u didnt drop.. go on against sk" and mby some cash :)

2011-04-23 15:47

Sad for Online Kingdom, they showed great figure this tour. Im guessing fx, mouz, SK and mTw. Cheering for RAGE tho, I like their offensive strats.

2011-04-23 15:47

HOW IS EVERYONE ACCEPTING THAT THE RULEBOOK FROM COPENHAGEN GAMES (NOT THE ONE FROM ESWC, IEM OR WHAT EVER) HAS BEEN BROKEN?

2011-04-23 15:49

1 reply

we are not but what can we do

2011-04-23 15:49

gg nobs

2011-04-23 15:49

are you going to open dreamteam or not? atleast tell us

2011-04-23 15:49

Finland fanboys so stupid.cry cry cry.points count between 3 teams,also m5 beat finland meat ane question?mtw loosers,special lose,i hate them.mtw special lose at iem esahara,sorry dawn.they dont face to face with navi,they special lose coL,f.cking loosers.sry4mybadenglish

2011-04-23 15:49

9 replies

What an enlightening comment! The rules for this particular tournament were "Round difference in ALL series". The tournament broke its own rules and changed them, of course we're "crying" over it. I know you're happy since your beloved team got through. It was due to an unfair decision though, which you, nor apparently anyone else can see through.

2011-04-23 15:52

4 replies

You can't expect people to believe what you say, when you don't have anything to back it up. I am not saying that Freon or SETT.fi are lying, but you have to understand that people want to see the ruleset for themselves, especially since the scenario isn't mentioned in the ruleset on copenhagengames.com.

2011-04-23 16:03

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I don't expect them to believe me. I want to see the rulebook myself too. I do believe that this is the case though and that it was an unfair decision all-around. Why would they come up with such things if they weren't true?

2011-04-23 16:05

2 replies

They probably wouldn't, but why would they quote a ruleset and then not provide a link? It just seems weird the whole thing.

2011-04-23 16:07

1 reply

I believe that the ruleset is only available at the LAN itself, they would most likely provide a link to it if it would be available on the internet as well. This whole thing seems a little odd to me.

2011-04-23 16:25

in THIS PARTICULAR TOURNAMENT the rule was "Round difference in all series", not between the 3 of them in a three-way-tie, which means that the matches against face! should have been counted.

2011-04-23 15:53

mTw loses on purpose: to SNG, WCG 2010, not to face NaVi in bracket to eSAHARA (15-15) (were winning 15-13 and when knew MYM won SK, lose 2 rounds not to face Na'Vi in play-off), IEM euro 2011 to coL, IEM world 2011 (NaVi again) to OK, Xperia Play 2011 (trying to screw M5, i think) fuck mTw

2011-04-23 15:59

2 replies

hahahahah

2011-04-23 16:25

1 reply

pray for MTW, they gave your team chance to advance.. oh wait...

2011-04-23 16:30

M5 GO REBYATUSHKI!!!!!!!!!!!! M5-HOPE OF RUSSIA

2011-04-23 15:51

GO FX , FNATIC !

2011-04-23 15:52

But all teams is POWER!

2011-04-23 15:52

sk-gaming.com/video/335957-Freon_we_were..

2011-04-23 15:53

AND SK-gaming Spawn Fisker Vilden nice line-up.

2011-04-23 15:54

1 reply

yes and M5: Valeriy Meladze Zveri Timati Sektor Gaza ruki vverh sick line-up.

2011-04-23 16:25

Now is TIME for FX !

2011-04-23 15:54

No reason to cry, m5 is going out soon.

2011-04-23 15:55

1 reply

It's not about m5, ok were playing great beat lions and mtw, screwed up jsut one game and that's over. Those players have huge potential!

2011-04-23 15:56

fnatic vs sk in final

2011-04-23 15:56

Good luck FX and SK in the final.

2011-04-23 15:57

FX MTW RG SK

2011-04-23 15:58

pretty disgusting :(

2011-04-23 16:00

FX FTW!! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FRAG EXECVVVVVVVVVVVVTORRRRRSSSSS

2011-04-23 16:01

Frag eXecutors vs TCM-Gaming mTw vs fnatic mousesports vs RG-Esports SK Gaming vs Moscow Five

2011-04-23 16:02

2 replies

yea i agree^^

2011-04-23 16:06

moddii, barbarr and kalle> mouz You'll see:)

2011-04-23 16:16

open dreamteam ? : O

2011-04-23 16:06

DREAMTEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OPEN PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry for capslock =)

2011-04-23 16:06

Great matches. This> - FX - mTw - RG - SK

2011-04-23 16:08

final - sk vs fx ...

2011-04-23 16:08

fnatik has an easy group

2011-04-23 16:10

LOL, all the best teams in one side of the playoffs =(, mTw, fnatic, FX in one side. That sucks...

2011-04-23 16:13

3 replies

The whole tournament sucks, so.. its pretty obvious hihihi

2011-04-23 16:14

2 replies

not, if youre not OK fan, or soumi. Other people think that tournament is great. Its sad what happened to OK, but nothing we can do about that.

2011-04-23 17:06

1 reply

I'm OK.cs' fan

2011-04-23 17:07

GL M5 ! again M5 16-3 SK plizzz guys !

2011-04-23 16:13

mousesports !! finally they returned to the scene

2011-04-23 16:13

haha, it's funny to read all the Finnish comments. What a bunch of whining idi*ts.

2011-04-23 16:14

4 replies

why? they are right

2011-04-23 16:19

2 replies

Finn detected

2011-04-23 16:21

1 reply

idiot spotted? what does your nationality matter when it's written in the rules that all matches in the bracket should be counted

2011-04-23 16:24

Well then go ahead and read them again. You'll learn that we have all the right to whine about this :) Your ignorance amuses me.

2011-04-23 16:28

LOORD 1on4 PLEASE VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!!!! WOULD YOU LIKE ?

2011-04-23 16:18

open dreamteam pls !

2011-04-23 16:19

Go SK! :)

2011-04-23 16:22

SK vs TBA final ..

2011-04-23 16:23

go sk

2011-04-23 16:28

OK showd some good matches in this tournament, bad that they dont reach the playoffs.

2011-04-23 16:29

OK was better team on this tournament than M5... Sad for them :/

2011-04-23 16:34

online-kingdom.org/articles/when-rules-a..

2011-04-23 16:36

1 reply

+100

2011-04-23 17:00

cant believe mTw's 'bad luck' continues regarding playoff draws ect.

2011-04-23 16:38

sad, OK > m5

2011-04-23 16:39

"the Swedes decided to leave WO against munkka" what does WO mean ?

2011-04-23 16:40

3 replies

Walkover, forfeit.

2011-04-23 16:41

Walk over

2011-04-23 16:41

thanks

2011-04-23 16:44

Is it true it was nixon who made the final call?

2011-04-23 16:40

So nix0n what you have to say about this?

2011-04-23 16:42

1 reply

"Nix0n - HLTV.org #133 To save time I suppose, honestly don't know, but thats my guess." Hmm i think HE don't know :S

2011-04-23 16:46

Frag eXecutors vs. TCM-Gaming mTw vs. fnatic mousesports vs. RG-Esports SK Gaming vs. Moscow Five

2011-04-23 16:44

freon interview sk-gaming.com/video/335957-Freon_we_were..

2011-04-23 16:45

1 reply

2011-04-23 16:47

sksk!

2011-04-23 16:46

finals = SK vs mTw/fnatic

2011-04-23 16:47

go SK !

2011-04-23 16:49

I think TCM can cause an upset. I'll be watching Mouz vs RG. Good to see Mouz back.

2011-04-23 16:56

FX MTW RG SK

2011-04-23 16:57

go mauze !

2011-04-23 17:00

"Minutes later I got informed that M5 was going through based on the decision of an admin to go AGAINST THEIR OWN RULE BOOK. Can anyone, at this point, explain me? I've tried to speak with multiple admins, none return the call or answer the text message, e-mail some others and even tried to join qnet channel, where I found we were all banned. So if there is any responsible admin out there, could you please explain your decision?" says online kingdom admin :)

2011-04-23 17:02

Gl mTw

2011-04-23 17:05

fx mtw rage sk

2011-04-23 17:06

GO SK <3

2011-04-23 17:12

This is shit...

2011-04-23 17:25

If the rules-book said: "all the rounds counts in both group stages" and "round difference counts to decide wich team advance to final bracket", then this final bracket ir unfair for OK, M5 shouldn't be there. But I can't affirm it with 100% sure, just as satanioN said, at least in HLTV.org there is no print/file of Xperia rules-book (unfortunely)...

2011-04-23 17:27

12 replies

the admins showed those rules at LAN to some people (including SETT.fi crew) when they were discussing about the situation.

2011-04-23 17:44

11 replies

I believe, and I never said that the rules-book says the different. The thing is that we (people who are not at Xperia PLAY) can't see those rules. I mean, it would be nice if someone post them in HLTV.org

2011-04-23 17:50

10 replies

how could anyone do that since the rules are not online and i believe the admins (or Nix0n, who made the decision to drop OK) wont put it up because then they would have to admit they made a wrong decision, or at least a decision against their own rulebook :)

2011-04-23 17:55

9 replies

I wonder how do you know that it was Nix0n who droped OnlineKingdom? ... There is no need to put the rules online, just take a print/photo wtv of the specific part where is stated the "round diference" rule.

2011-04-23 18:01

8 replies

i've talked to few different guys who are there atm and all of them said its Nix0n who did it. If I got the right idea there are no actual admins (?), Nix0n was acting as a consultant and the head admin of the event couldnt cancel his/their decision

2011-04-23 18:05

7 replies

If you can't prove it, then there is no way to believe in you. How fine it'll be if the rules were stated here!

2011-04-23 18:13

1 reply

true that :(

2011-04-23 18:26

Nixon already said that he didn't make the decision. Guys you spoke to might be wrong or is that not an option because it doesn't go well with your theory ?

2011-04-23 18:14

Nixon didn't make the decision. :)

2011-04-23 18:28

Are you really that stupid? How the hell should Nix0n be able to make a call in the Xperia Play CS tournament? Get real, and stop these false accusations right now.

2011-04-23 18:50

2 replies

That's just what I heard from a reliable source. Also, this is what online-kingdom.org writes about the time after the decision: "I've tried to speak with multiple admins, none return the call or answer the text message, e-mail some others and even tried to join qnet channel, where I found we were all banned. So if there is any responsible admin out there, could you please explain your decision?" So even if there was an admin, he really couldnt care less about being available.

2011-04-23 19:57

1 reply

What does that have to do with US? We are not responsible for that stupid tournament, we are a coverage site, wake the fuck up.

2011-04-23 20:51

Why the market is closed yet ?

2011-04-23 17:29

SK <3!

2011-04-23 17:34

why the bracket were changed during the tournament?

2011-04-23 17:40

why dont you guys open the dreamteam market for the playoff games?

2011-04-23 17:47

Looks like group RD statistics are very useful

2011-04-23 18:05

you guys can open the dreamteam for few minutes?

2011-04-23 18:28

dreamteam...

2011-04-23 18:34

As always its the obvious fanboys crying and whining. Just like when fnatic, sk or navi doesn't reach whatever they want them to. CRY MORE FOR THE JELLYBEANS THAT IS NEEDING FLUIDS!

2011-04-23 18:52

i thought in a group , if 3 teams tie , than the round difference counts from all the matches ONLY and ONLY if all 3 teams have the exact same rounds is the 4th team kicked and round difference counted again if AGAIN all three teams have the same RD then they need to replay the matches between the 3 teams only logical conclusion to me :/ oh and it needs to be MR 30 not MR16 in groups IMO

2011-04-23 20:11